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September 11, 2018, 05:21:45 PM
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I've heard that planting trees at this point is useless.Estimations state that even planting the entire planet with trees wouldn't be sufficient to avoid earth's temperature keep getting higher."Planting trees hype" became just an excuse for associations to earn quick bucks.
Instead,we need to limit usage of fossil energy and replace it by other sources of energy environment-friendly like sun and wind.

This will not solve the root cause of the issue.

We need to reduce our global population growth to zero, or make it slightly negative.  Only then you will see some positive results, in few generations.

As it is now we are on track to be hit by a moving train.

Renewable energy would do squat when your energy demand doubles every 70 years due to the population growth.
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September 11, 2018, 08:24:43 PM
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I've heard that planting trees at this point is useless.Estimations state that even planting the entire planet with trees wouldn't be sufficient to avoid earth's temperature keep getting higher."Planting trees hype" became just an excuse for associations to earn quick bucks.
Instead,we need to limit usage of fossil energy and replace it by other sources of energy environment-friendly like sun and wind.

This will not solve the root cause of the issue.

We need to reduce our global population growth to zero, or make it slightly negative.  Only then you will see some positive results, in few generations.

As it is now we are on track to be hit by a moving train.

Renewable energy would do squat when your energy demand doubles every 70 years due to the population growth.

It JUST needs some immediate change on a veeery big scale Undecided
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September 12, 2018, 12:15:49 AM
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I've heard that planting trees at this point is useless.Estimations state that even planting the entire planet with trees wouldn't be sufficient to avoid earth's temperature keep getting higher."Planting trees hype" became just an excuse for associations to earn quick bucks.
Instead,we need to limit usage of fossil energy and replace it by other sources of energy environment-friendly like sun and wind.

This will not solve the root cause of the issue.

We need to reduce our global population growth to zero, or make it slightly negative.  Only then you will see some positive results, in few generations.

As it is now we are on track to be hit by a moving train.

Renewable energy would do squat when your energy demand doubles every 70 years due to the population growth.

It JUST needs some immediate change on a veeery big scale Undecided
All right.

Billions of trees won't cut it.

Let's go for trillions.
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September 12, 2018, 10:57:55 AM
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I've heard that planting trees at this point is useless.Estimations state that even planting the entire planet with trees wouldn't be sufficient to avoid earth's temperature keep getting higher."Planting trees hype" became just an excuse for associations to earn quick bucks.
Instead,we need to limit usage of fossil energy and replace it by other sources of energy environment-friendly like sun and wind.

This will not solve the root cause of the issue.

We need to reduce our global population growth to zero, or make it slightly negative.  Only then you will see some positive results, in few generations.

As it is now we are on track to be hit by a moving train.

Renewable energy would do squat when your energy demand doubles every 70 years due to the population growth.

It JUST needs some immediate change on a veeery big scale Undecided
All right.

Billions of trees won't cut it.

Let's go for trillions.

Point taken Cheesy but let's be honest, addressing the root-problem isn't gonna happen soon, therefore it is still better to fight symptoms than don't do nothing. E.g. the energy sector, why not ban the construction of any non-renewable power plants? For now, it's about damage control in my opinion. But even if we exploit this planet to it's limit, there are still projects like the ocean cleanup, of course it's fighting symptoms, but still giving me hope. Changing human behavior and creating a more balanced and healthy world takes a lot of time. But small changes sometimes can have a huge impact https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysa5OBhXz-Q
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September 12, 2018, 08:45:00 PM
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.....why not ban the construction of any non-renewable power plants?...

For one reason, you'd be forcing a billion people in Africa to live in dire poverty like their ancestors.

For another reason, renewable cannot supply backbone power for grids.

Final reason, you'd be banning nuclear, which is the future of power.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2018/09/11/had-they-bet-on-nuclear-not-renewables-germany-california-would-already-have-100-clean-power/#16dc7e0e0d44
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September 13, 2018, 03:17:06 PM
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It's hard to say yes or no, because there are lots of contradictory opinions on the subject, I prefer to leave the matter for the professionals. In the meantime, you might like to read the articles below:

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/20/opinion/to-save-the-planet-dont-plant-trees.html

http://wwf.panda.org/get_involved/plant_seed.cfm/
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September 13, 2018, 11:11:15 PM
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It's hard to say yes or no, because there are lots of contradictory opinions on the subject, I prefer to leave the matter for the professionals. In the meantime, you might like to read the articles below:

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/20/opinion/to-save-the-planet-dont-plant-trees.html

http://wwf.panda.org/get_involved/plant_seed.cfm/

What a surprising opinion from NY Times! I couldn't even imagine that possibility. Thanks for sharing!
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September 23, 2018, 06:47:32 AM
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What good is to plant the trees if ground water level will descend below their roots causing them to die during just one summer?

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September 24, 2018, 07:07:56 AM
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Trees would only survive on place that are not still occupied by us humans. So there's no point planting a lot of trees in the city or in the urban spots because pollution will just definitely kill them and they won't survive surely for decades.

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September 25, 2018, 05:16:12 AM
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shouldn't we plant billions of trees now? because

oxygen level since 1990

http://clivebest.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/o2_plot.gif


and there are more than 2000 species of trees with edible fruits and nuts and berries



trees produce 21 Million calories per acre

trees produce oxygen and wealth and wildlife habitat and food and timber.



cows produce 1 Million calories per acre

cows produce

Methane which is 30 times higher effect heat-trapping greenhouse gas
Yes , we should do this because  climate has changed rapidly , the glaciers are melting and sea level has rise the only way for the survival of earth is in green energy and panting trees
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September 25, 2018, 02:36:55 PM
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What good is to plant the trees if ground water level will descend below their roots causing them to die during just one summer?

Where I live, wells are dug at about 900 feet.

There are lots of trees and bushes....
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September 26, 2018, 06:58:52 AM
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Yes, not only planting trees but also decrease the Co2 emitting and reduce the all harmful things do for environment. We should begin it a year prior, when we begin utilizing trees as our need. Trees works as our industrial facility of oxygen, without them, the oxygen present in our climate will be no more. . On the off chance that regardless we neglect the significance of tree planting, and keep on pulverizing the nature, I won't question that some time or another we will purchase oxygen jars, oxygen tanks, and even covers just to breathing in all the toxics present in our air.

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September 26, 2018, 09:00:26 AM
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This might sound a little 'out there'

But I've always thought cryptocurrency a sort of stable coin and trees could work in harmony. A sort of (PROOF of TREE) tokens would be backed by forestry and trees planted which every 12 years would need areas of forestry cleaned and the wood would be sold and the profits from the operation would go back into the token.. any token overspill over 1 dollar would then be spent on planting and purchasing more forestry. a stable coin based off the growth of forests. Many Forrests in different stages of growth would be purchased so there is always some forrest land which needs to be cleaned and the wood would be sold on. I think its a cool ecological idea.. what do you guys think?

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October 08, 2018, 01:19:43 AM
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Don’t mean to sound like a Debbie downer, but what good does planting trees right now bring? The points you made about the benefits of trees are all accurate. But how can that data adapt to our current situation? So much can happen during the time a seedling grows into a tree –global warming can get worse, population will still increase exponentially, etc. The destruction is already far greater than the little good that trees can provide, don’t you think?
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