Bitcoin Forum
September 23, 2018, 03:15:58 PM *
News: ♦♦ New info! Bitcoin Core users absolutely must upgrade to previously-announced 0.16.3 [Torrent]. All Bitcoin users should temporarily trust confirmations slightly less. More info.
 
   Home   Help Search Donate Login Register  
Pages: « 1 2 3 [4]  All
  Print  
Author Topic: 7nm Avalon ASIC (A3207) • AvalonMiner A9 • 0.06-0.07 J/GH  (Read 1804 times)
minefarmbuy
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 182
Merit: 34

We are not retail.


View Profile WWW
September 14, 2018, 06:22:55 PM
 #61

If we get lot's of demand hopefully a price break on a large quantity will balance some of the tariff out.

Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here.
1537715758
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1537715758

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1537715758
Reply with quote  #2

1537715758
Report to moderator
QuestionQuest
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 245
Merit: 131



View Profile
September 22, 2018, 10:07:19 AM
 #62

While you all calculate Avalon, Innosilicion, Halong, WhatsMiner, Holic (for B2B), GMO ... and and and ....

I was waiting for the next step of Bitmain and was every disappointed as I saw the "AntBox" some weeks ago.

While Bitmain is using a shitty 16nm chip and the chip design is beating them almost all for what you get (price).

Now its out 7nm chip with Bitmain chip-design and they will rule the market again  Roll Eyes Shocked

### S9 13.5/14T (RIP) ### DragonMint 16T (T1) & Innosilicon 17T (HAIL!) ###
philipma1957
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2226
Merit: 1338


Avalon 841 rocks


View Profile
September 22, 2018, 01:32:16 PM
 #63

While you all calculate Avalon, Innosilicion, Halong, WhatsMiner, Holic (for B2B), GMO ... and and and ....

I was waiting for the next step of Bitmain and was every disappointed as I saw the "AntBox" some weeks ago.

While Bitmain is using a shitty 16nm chip and the chip design is beating them almost all for what you get (price).

Now its out 7nm chip with Bitmain chip-design and they will rule the market again  Roll Eyes Shocked
or will ebang's newer model be better.

I mine alt coins with https://simplemining.net...
I see BTC as the super highway and alt coins as taxis and trucks needed to move transactions.
AniceInovation
Donator
Sr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 371
Merit: 251


Interesting.


View Profile
September 22, 2018, 09:23:22 PM
 #64

And specs are out!
20TH/s for 1700W: https://www.cryptouniverse.at/shop/avalonminer-a9-avalon-a9/
Heavily disappointed.

dutchlincoln
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 210
Merit: 25


View Profile
September 22, 2018, 09:48:35 PM
 #65

And specs are out!
20TH/s for 1700W: https://www.cryptouniverse.at/shop/avalonminer-a9-avalon-a9/
Heavily disappointed.

its a laugh and failure compared to competition....
minefarmbuy
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 182
Merit: 34

We are not retail.


View Profile WWW
September 22, 2018, 10:31:55 PM
 #66

1800w

philipma1957
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2226
Merit: 1338


Avalon 841 rocks


View Profile
Today at 12:25:01 AM
 #67

And specs are out!
20TH/s for 1700W: https://www.cryptouniverse.at/shop/avalonminer-a9-avalon-a9/
Heavily disappointed.

its a laugh and failure compared to competition....

well  depends  pricing  is not crazy

and the 841 could underclock to get 90 or 91 watts a th.

so if this is 85 watts a th  and you clock it to 17th  getting 75 watts a th

compared to the m10 it is close to but not quite competitive.

an m10 = 34th at 2350 watts

this could be 34 th at  watts 2550 watts



I got really good under clock with the 841.

still it missed  whisper specs by a ton.

I have done a lot of good deals with avalon I need to talk with steve about getting 2 .

I mine alt coins with https://simplemining.net...
I see BTC as the super highway and alt coins as taxis and trucks needed to move transactions.
minefarmbuy
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 182
Merit: 34

We are not retail.


View Profile WWW
Today at 03:30:33 AM
 #68

921 more or less efficient than the s9j? Essentially this unit is best compared when looking at T2 or the turbo at 24th/s. Essentially cheap hash to watt or dollar/BTC.

Mid range unit and typical Canaan price to market to sell. You know it's a solid unit and probably the x amount you buy will work a long time with moderate maintenance. If your starting a farm right now it's worthy to consider.  

Edited for typo and to reminder everyone it's 1800w again.

philipma1957
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 2226
Merit: 1338


Avalon 841 rocks


View Profile
Today at 03:53:57 AM
 #69

921 more or less efficient than the s9j? Essentially this unit is best compared when looking at T2 or the turbo at 24th/s. Essentially cheap hash to watt or dollar/BTC.

Mid range unit and typical Canaan price to market to sell. You know it's a solid unit and probably the x amount you buy will work a long time with moderate maintenance. If your starting a farm right now it's worthy to consider.  

Edited for typo and to reminder everyone it's 1800w again.

So if it is 20 th at 1800 watts it is a hair better then an s-9 j at efficiency on stock settings

It does get about 6th extra compared to the s9j

The real key is can I get the undeclock on it to work as well as it does on the 841.

If I can do that it will drop to 75-80 watts a th at near the 16th mark.

But if it under clocks like the 851 it will not be so good.


I have a lot of info posted on both the 841 and the 851 it shows the 841 to do very well on underclocks and the 851 to not do so well.

I mine alt coins with https://simplemining.net...
I see BTC as the super highway and alt coins as taxis and trucks needed to move transactions.
DarkStar_
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1092
Merit: 1331

:D


View Profile WWW
Today at 04:18:37 AM
 #70

Anyone know what fab Canaan uses for their 7nm chips? I wonder if it's a bad 7nm process that's preventing them from gaining higher efficiency/hashrate.

Steamtyme
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 406
Merit: 347

Blokforge Affiliate- see profile


View Profile WWW
Today at 04:30:31 AM
 #71

I don't think the 921 is reflective of their best product with 7nm Chips.

Not sure about their overall process but hasn't it been the case going back to at least the 7 series, that they have a x21 model that kinda delivers, but is soon replaced by the x41 which tends to be the best option for that line. Generally being significantly more efficient, powerful or both.


minefarmbuy
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 182
Merit: 34

We are not retail.


View Profile WWW
Today at 06:52:21 AM
 #72

Agreed, feel though their timing is off.

Again, T2 was in what? March? So 2 quarters too late on the 821? Or are they holding back on their chip? Now I'm getting speculatory (if that's a word). Seems their two designs trend too close together.

Quality of chips? Or Canaan delivering trade mark? Have they always been so conservative in design?

HagssFIN
Hero Member
*****
Online Online

Activity: 1022
Merit: 1172


Electrical engineer (B.E.). Mining since 2014.


View Profile WWW
Today at 06:55:08 AM
 #73

Anyone know what fab Canaan uses for their 7nm chips? I wonder if it's a bad 7nm process that's preventing them from gaining higher efficiency/hashrate.

Canaan uses TSMC.

Pages: « 1 2 3 [4]  All
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Sponsored by , a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!