Troleybüs/Eal F. Skillz/Pandacoin

[hilariousandco]

This is my only account here, I don't have any alt accounts. Real people that know me in Turkey can confirm that.

How would real people in Turkey be able to confirm you don't have alts here? And besides, I don't think that is true:

nasthedon

Thank you.

nasthedon

Thank you.

Not that there is anything wrong with having alts but using them to abuse the trust system is.

EDIT : it seems like both cakir and troleybus returned it back to bit-x, so this scam accusation can be close

Marco is the only one who can do that. The trust issue should still be cleared up or resolved in my opinion at least for Eal's sake.

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[arallmuus]

EDIT : it seems like both cakir and troleybus returned it back to bit-x, so this scam accusation can be close

Marco is the only one who can do that. The trust issue should still be cleared up or resolved in my opinion at least for Eal's sake.

Sorry if im asking it here which is abit off topic, a Banned user cant lock its own thread?

I do think the issue about Eal's trust issue should be resolved , but not in this thread since this is about the overpay amount of troleybus/Ealz which is resolved because Troleybus sent it back

[hilariousandco]

I'm not sure if they can or not but I suppose it's up to Marco whether he considers it resolved or not and wishes to lock it.

[redsn0w]

It seems that he (Eal F. Skillz) doesn't want to resolve the situation, now I've sent him a PM and I hope he will reply to me (if he will resolve the situation I will remove the negative trust because are not needed).

[cakir]

This is my only account here, I don't have any alt accounts. Real people that know me in Turkey can confirm that.

How would real people in Turkey be able to confirm you don't have alts here? And besides, I don't think that is true:

nasthedon

Thank you.

nasthedon

Thank you.

Not that there is anything wrong with having alts but using them to abuse the trust system is.

EDIT : it seems like both cakir and troleybus returned it back to bit-x, so this scam accusation can be close

Marco is the only one who can do that. The trust issue should still be cleared up or resolved in my opinion at least for Eal's sake.

I want to say a few things about trust system abuse issue:

First of all, I don't think giving positive trust to people who you know in your real life. Here's the Türkish point of view about this:
Giving positive trust to someone without any reference means "If this guy scams you I'll pay for him".
Also it means: "if you trust me you can trust him too".

I think those feedbacks were given for Turkish Marketplace not for all Forum. (There're lots of rules and regulations in Turkey about international shopping, there're lots of taxes etc, So even you want to buy asics, they are imported via companies and then they're sold, otherwise they're too expensive, if you don't have a man inside the Customs you may not be able to get your asic it would be held by government.)

That's why Eal tried to defend Zeki to have his own hero account (which was hacked) for himself. We, Turkish people defend people's rights who we know, trust. (And then marcotheminer retaliated of course).

If you're thinking that's abusing the trust system it's quite easy to solve, All unreferenced feedbacks can be deleted, As far as I see Eal already deleted them.

But if those guys wanted to abuse trust system they could easily open fake sale threads and then give themselves positive trusts which hasn't been done.

Also those guys are not in the default trust system so they're not already seen as trusted (green). Those unreferenced trusts didn't effect their trust status even a little bit.

On the other hand any of these guys tried to get into default trust system like marcotheminer. You can see tomatocage's post about marcotheminer's wish:

Marco was pushing pretty hard for me to add him to my Trust list, and this all makes perfect sense now. Mind you, having multiple accounts is not against forum rules.

[redsn0w]

Feedback removed, Eal has explained the situation and I want to give him the benefit of the doubt. Have a great day guys.

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I also removed my feedback after speaking to him.

[shorena]

This is my only account here, I don't have any alt accounts. Real people that know me in Turkey can confirm that.

How would real people in Turkey be able to confirm you don't have alts here? And besides, I don't think that is true:

nasthedon

Thank you.

nasthedon

Thank you.

Not that there is anything wrong with having alts but using them to abuse the trust system is.

EDIT : it seems like both cakir and troleybus returned it back to bit-x, so this scam accusation can be close

Marco is the only one who can do that. The trust issue should still be cleared up or resolved in my opinion at least for Eal's sake.

I want to say a few things about trust system abuse issue:

First of all, I don't think giving positive trust to people who you know in your real life. Here's the Türkish point of view about this:
Giving positive trust to someone without any reference means "If this guy scams you I'll pay for him".
Also it means: "if you trust me you can trust him too".

I think those feedbacks were given for Turkish Marketplace not for all Forum. (There're lots of rules and regulations in Turkey about international shopping, there're lots of taxes etc, So even you want to buy asics, they are imported via companies and then they're sold, otherwise they're too expensive, if you don't have a man inside the Customs you may not be able to get your asic it would be held by government.)

That's why Eal tried to defend Zeki to have his own hero account (which was hacked) for himself. We, Turkish people defend people's rights who we know, trust. (And then marcotheminer retaliated of course).

If you're thinking that's abusing the trust system it's quite easy to solve, All unreferenced feedbacks can be deleted, As far as I see Eal already deleted them.

But if those guys wanted to abuse trust system they could easily open fake sale threads and then give themselves positive trusts which hasn't been done.

Also those guys are not in the default trust system so they're not already seen as trusted (green). Those unreferenced trusts didn't effect their trust status even a little bit.

On the other hand any of these guys tried to get into default trust system like marcotheminer. You can see tomatocage's post about marcotheminer's wish:

Marco was pushing pretty hard for me to add him to my Trust list, and this all makes perfect sense now. Mind you, having multiple accounts is not against forum rules.

Just a thought, but couldnt you leave a neutral rating in turkish (or even better in turkish and english) for this? That would allow you to keep your local customs about the use of the trust system without causing confusion in the international section.

[tspacepilot]

I personally don't trust staff members with alt accounts that aren't known to the public.

Just for the record, if a staff member has alt accounts that aren't known to the public then how would you know not to trust them.  Seems like one of these--- I don't like what I see when I look in the mirror with my eyes closed ---kinda paradoxes.