Lets talk Logic!

[EMINeMxShOw]

Hello every1

Let's talk logic!
We all can see FUD spreading and people lost the trust as even if it was a game by The BTC Gods! We admit that BTC needs volume and people had fear of it and also normal people who using it for their online transactions OR even IRL of course getting mad as of it's price stability!
@ the same time governments in the middle east, started to make it easier with their master cards, prepaid ones! which easy to use and FREE! even with no fees... which shows 100% it's a war of Crypto @ ALL not only BTC!
I mean what do you think Guys and WHY please leave your feelings aside and talk knowledge.

PS: I'm a HOLDER!

Best Regards,

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[iconternal]

bitcoin is indeed a very good coin and has a very high price at the end of 2017 and now includes a price decline, but with time I am sure the price will recover, and with the presence of a master card in the middle east it shows the positive side of crypto.

[gotminer]

Ask me again in five years.

[wengden]

If you are  using btc since it was develop then I am really sure that you cant say that btc will die. For how many years of experience of declining and inclining, only old members had the trust on BTC and believing that btx will not die.

[pooya87]

Let's talk logic!
 We admit that BTC is losing it's Value

well when you start your topic by "logic" and then continue to say "bitcoin is losing value" while it is rising you just discredit yourself!

as people have fear of it

only the newbies who fail to understand bitcoin have fear of it and make irrational decisions like panic selling during a rise or selling at the bottom. and that was the drop that happened more than a month ago.
the rest aren't fooled by some online nonsense.

@ the same time governments in the middle east, started to make it easier with their master cards, prepaid ones! which easy to use and FREE! even with no fees... which shows 100% it's a war of Crypto @ ALL not only BTC!

sorry to disappoint you but the banking system in Middle East has been the same for many years and it has nothing to do with "crypto". it doesn't show anything either and altcoins are still getting dumped hard.

[Criptomen]

Nothing surprising that Bitcoin fell, it always falls after the rise and always grows after the fall. Bitcoin is not the first year on the market and is still considered the king of the crypto, I'm sure he will return to 4 zeros

[spazie]

I think the best and most popular crypto money is bitcoin,
Currently the price is starting to rise and will soar like last year.

[Kenthunan_rondo]

earlier this year bitcoin dropped very dratis, but that did not last long, this month bitcoin started jumping up and this proves the best bitcoin virtual money.

[Dudeperfect]

Well, I am going to quote my this post within the next 6 to 8 months as I firmly believe that Bitcoin will not only cross $10K but also we will see some new high levels within this time span. It's not just the users but also big whales and institutional investors are preparing heavily to get involved with the momentum and it is going to push the price even further.

[Ankhang2016]

a future not far away bitcoin will return to its extreme mold development. Hoping and keeping your bitcoin

[batang_bitcoin]

You're a holder and you say that bitcoin is losing it's value, I'm moved on what to tell about this logic thing you are asking.

If you are describing the past months then at least credit it those months but not for today.

Do you think that BTC will face all of this and Get back up with 4 Zero's ?

Definitely.

I have read some info on social media after gold ETF was approved by 2000's it skyrocketed so the same thing can go for bitcoin.

[electronicash]

same here. i wouldn't expect bitcoin to go up to how much it was back December of 2017. fud has always been there even before it got $1K. but ETF is very much needed or it will take more than a year, it a slow process and gain trust again. and there are just newer tokens that will be useful for what its purpose which new comers will prefer to invest to it. strongest coin will likely to win still and its btc.

[davis196]

in the middle east, started to make it easier with their master cards, prepaid ones! which easy to use and FREE! even with no fees...

Are you kidding me.Nothing is free,even mastercard.OP,atleast learn english.I can`t understand what are you trying to say in this post.No,there isn`t a war against crypto.The FUD is not a "war",it`s just spreading some pesimism about the future of cryptocurrencies.I real war against crypto would mean that governments all over the world start a mass ban.

[iotarocket]

Absolutely. I think investors should focus not so much on the price movements but instead on the underlying technology. Increasingly bitcoin is seen as a store of value and the Lightning Network will once allow bitcoin to be used for common transactions. Bitcoin also has the first-mover advantage.

[mathew232]

Hello every1

Let's talk logic!
We all can see FUD spreading and people lost the trust as even if it was a game by The BTC Gods! We admit that BTC is losing it's Value as people have fear of it and also normal people who using it for their online transactions OR even IRL of course getting mad as of it's price stability!
@ the same time governments in the middle east, started to make it easier with their master cards, prepaid ones! which easy to use and FREE! even with no fees... which shows 100% it's a war of Crypto @ ALL not only BTC!
I mean what do you think Guys and WHY please leave your feelings aside and talk knowledge.

PS: I'm a HOLDER!

Best Regards,

Sure! Why not? As that time price of Bitcoin is falling down rapidly but I think the price of Bitcoin will recover soon.

[mikyadel]

frankly,it all depends on SEC in 10th August , i believe if we saw some approval we can hit 4 zeros easily considering we have already broken bearish trend ,but i'm more concerned about alt coins . people now just investing in the market in sake of profits not for believing in the technology .that can be dangerous in the long run.

[Pursuer]

I don't really understand your logic here and your thoughts seem to be all over the place. I think you want the price to go up above $10k so you are trying hard to come up with reasons to justify that rise for yourself here. which is a wrong approach to speculation.

in any case don't worry, price will rise. we may not see it happen fast at first like last year but there will be more of a slow rise which will also be a lot more solid than these big sudden jumps.

[cipherb]

Yes bitcoin soon touch its all time high price $20000 of December 2017 because market is recovering from long bear trend  also bitcoin soon break all time record because now bitcoin is most popular crypto currency and investors and companies are planing to invest and accept this currency in upcoming five years bitcoin will touch $50000 price also many countries will be regulate this currency.

[sitnibtc]

Surely. Let's just be positive here. Confidence to the market is what btc need to get back again to that 4 zero mark. And i believethat only the newbies are the ones that fear that btc went down in value since they do not really understand the market.

[Hercerays]

Actually what BTC is facing is not unusual to me, rather the Crypto- space itself is full of interest, uncertainty, doubt, posibilities and risk. But we all Crypto- enthusiasts go with it and bear them always. Governments activities can't control the wave of cryptospace. Govt. always trying to get control of cryptocurrencies but won't completely ever. There is no war but revolution will come with many to wonder. Nothing to fear much more to think and act in the right time.

[SpyderSpyNX]

cryptocurrency is a very logical place,here nothing is just being assuming or unnecessarily created so everything is very logical here, here investors trust is everything if you believe on it value then it has value Otherwise it is useless so your decision is the main thing which keep everything logical over here

[leoliln45]

The war helps to choose our sides, good or bad, either.Choice is yours. It will also help us to avoid scams. FUD games did go up once but is no more on the popular list, whereas BTC is still doing pretty good, and will hopefully keep booming.

[icxC]

From my point of view when some one invest in this crypto market he/she have to know everything before investing. I don’t believe that people lost the trust on BTC, because some big companies made agreement with it, also it develop many sector and the price also upward. I think worry no more do a proper research.

[vy99]

Why settle for 4 zeros when you can have 5 zeros 

[Thefrolly]

The volatility that you are talking about is the biggest thing that attracts new users to the bitcoin markets. Without this volatility you can expect the markets to be boring and not much traction happening. And the debit and credit cards that you are talking about charges 2-3% to the business owners which they don't have to pay with cryptocurrencies.

[Karisma Black]

4 zeroes is nothing, so yes definitely.

[buyinbtc]

Hello every1

Let's talk logic!
We all can see FUD spreading and people lost the trust as even if it was a game by The BTC Gods! We admit that BTC is losing it's Value as people have fear of it and also normal people who using it for their online transactions OR even IRL of course getting mad as of it's price stability!
@ the same time governments in the middle east, started to make it easier with their master cards, prepaid ones! which easy to use and FREE! even with no fees... which shows 100% it's a war of Crypto @ ALL not only BTC!
I mean what do you think Guys and WHY please leave your feelings aside and talk knowledge.

PS: I'm a HOLDER!

Best Regards,

Well the bitcoin isn't even going down at the moment, it is probably because the date of the ETF is coming. Then after that it depends what is gonna happen in the outcome, if it gets denied the price will be dumped, if approved then it will pump.

[detector]

Some people still afraid of cryptocurrency so that's why the my government still against cryptocurrency with any reason

If you are  using btc since it was develop then I am really sure that you cant say that btc will die. For how many years of experience of declining and inclining, only old members had the trust on BTC and believing that btx will not die.

Old user based on their trust without being force !

[Ozero]

Bitcoin, like the entire crypto currency, is somewhat similar to non-cash money transmitted through various types of cards. In general, all this business world and non-cash money will be compelled to compete with the crypto currency. At the same time, they will also be forced to cooperate. I also do not exclude that in the future there will be single cards of non-cash payment, which will cover both non-cash fiat money, and the main types of crypto currency.

[gantez]

If you are  using btc since it was develop then I am really sure that you cant say that btc will die. For how many years of experience of declining and inclining, only old members had the trust on BTC and believing that btx will not die.

Yes you are right. People who always get scared are new comers who invest in bitcoin and they still hold tight to their heart in fear. There is no need to panic if you bought bitcoin especially when you enter at a low price.

[miyaka26]

Yeah, let's talk about the logic of it but the context of the OP is the opposite of that logic, people lose their trust from the game of btc gods? what bitcoin has a god now? people lose their trust because it broke their expectations that it will make them rich in just a short period of time without taking the risk of losing money, master cards and prepaid? still controlled and centralized by the Government.

[trecore4]

Off course there are many possibilities for the bitcoin to get 4 zero's one more time and who knows we are already on the verge of it. Yes it is true that bitcoin is currently facing the backward pull because of FUD's, and more over hacks, big investors dump and much more. I guess it is temporary because over the time the investment or the money which was lost during such acts will get replenished soon as investors keep on buying more and more of this stuff. I am not sure if there are government like the one you explained but surely in the time to come government will have to accept the presence of bitcoin and it will also help bitcoin to grow to higher dimensions.

[webtricks]

Currently hardly 10M of the World population have invested in Bitcoin. Moreover among them big portion of total supply is owned by hardly 1-2K people. Other than those 1-2K people, rest are those who entered market via hearsay and don't own much Bitcoins. So Bitcoin market is still unpredictable as it could excessively fluctuate from the action of those Top 0.01% of the holders who hold more than 1-2K Bitcoins individually. So rather than estimating anything about future, we should sit back and enjoy the pumpy/dumpy game which these whales play and try to enjoy our profits through it.

PS: Everyone remembers how Roger Ver and team deployed flipping via Bitcoin Cash show last year using their 300K Bitcoins. The example is enough to prove what I am saying.

[131tc01n]

you are the holder while they only use bitcoin as payment, if you holder should you have confidence in your long-term investment do not just see btc down now, if you are afraid of loss please sell your btc and start open business
I believe in a few years I will produce results from BTC
greeting holder

[criptogenious]

The war of cryptos is a blessing for the market, the competition will ultimately help us to differentiate between good cryptos and bad cryptos. It will also help us to avoid scams. FUD games had created a hype but right now it seems to have died but BTC is not falling according to my view. If you analyze and research, you'll find that BTC is only likely to rise again.

[Impulseboy]

In spite of all the things that happen in the past, I think that bitcoin will survive and come back stronger. I read a few days that says while cryptocurrency will stay for a long time, bitcoin may not. But the drought is through and I think this is the start of it. Digital currency will rise again.

[Eleanorrussell64]

does not unexpected when bitcoin up down, but it will return in the next time, and the number will be greater than năm 2017, I hope so.

[earnetheasy]

Even if BTC based game has failed that does not mean it will have any effect on BTC's price. BTC is gaining it's price again which has made all the eyes shift to BTC again. If BTC keep rising like these then all other market competitors will see a dip whereas BTC will rule the market for another indefinite period of time.

[DiamondsAndCoins]

While nothing is for certain these days I think we have a 99.9% chance we are going to triple 0's again.  Maybe ever quadruple.  The world is adopting Bitcoin and the governments appear to be accepting it. 

[EMINeMxShOw]

Absolutely. I think investors should focus not so much on the price movements but instead on the underlying technology. Increasingly bitcoin is seen as a store of value and the Lightning Network will once allow bitcoin to be used for common transactions. Bitcoin also has the first-mover advantage.

Well @ least am Arabian but talks English and can have convo's!
BUT Many of you??

[hurry_hore]

Hello every1

Let's talk logic!
We all can see FUD spreading and people lost the trust as even if it was a game by The BTC Gods! We admit that BTC is losing it's Value *past few months* as people had fear of it and also normal people who using it for their online transactions OR even IRL of course getting mad as of it's price stability!
@ the same time governments in the middle east, started to make it easier with their master cards, prepaid ones! which easy to use and FREE! even with no fees... which shows 100% it's a war of Crypto @ ALL not only BTC!
I mean what do you think Guys and WHY please leave your feelings aside and talk knowledge.

PS: I'm a HOLDER!

Best Regards,

Bitcoin is reversing currently as many people predicted before June, and the bottom price of this reversal is on around USD 5800 until now is still in bull run reversal. That is the logic of people who predicted this reversal of bitcoin price.

[cahbagus555]

Hello every1

Let's talk logic!
We all can see FUD spreading and people lost the trust as even if it was a game by The BTC Gods! We admit that BTC is losing it's Value *past few months* as people had fear of it and also normal people who using it for their online transactions OR even IRL of course getting mad as of it's price stability!
@ the same time governments in the middle east, started to make it easier with their master cards, prepaid ones! which easy to use and FREE! even with no fees... which shows 100% it's a war of Crypto @ ALL not only BTC!
I mean what do you think Guys and WHY please leave your feelings aside and talk knowledge.

PS: I'm a HOLDER!

Best Regards,

If you think Bitcoin losing the value, i think you are wrong. Bitcoin price indeed drop more than 60% from highest price at $20k but compare with last year price on July 2017, bitcoin price still gain more than 300%. many peoples think bitcoin will dead but bitcoin still growing

[Jetakenare]

I keep saying that so long as the blockchain technology is sound,bitcoin is secure. Money always follows technology and we have many great examples to chose from. Bitcoin will become increasingly more valuable as more people get to understand it.

[Keeping Up]

Hello every1

Let's talk logic!
We all can see FUD spreading and people lost the trust as even if it was a game by The BTC Gods! We admit that BTC needs volume and people had fear of it and also normal people who using it for their online transactions OR even IRL of course getting mad as of it's price stability!
@ the same time governments in the middle east, started to make it easier with their master cards, prepaid ones! which easy to use and FREE! even with no fees... which shows 100% it's a war of Crypto @ ALL not only BTC!
I mean what do you think Guys and WHY please leave your feelings aside and talk knowledge.

PS: I'm a HOLDER!

Best Regards,

With regards to what you have said on the creation of free transactions with middle east countries.
I guess this wont be enough to kill btc or cryptocurrency in general.
Let us remember that there other cryptocurrency capabilities that cannot be copied by governements and one of which is the anonymity thru crypto.

[peter0425]

The war has started years ago, it just evident in the last two years because bitcoin and crypto are gaining grounds. That's why last year we heard so much FUD and fake news. I hope you still remember Jamie Dimon's attack on bitcoin, but on the background they secretly buying tons of bitcoins. Don't banks are also taking advantage of bitcoin market situation and will take advantage. As for the 4 digit mark. Yes, its really possible that we can still reach it but it going to be a struggle.

[kulsuma]

With the present growth, we can certainly say that it will reach 4 zeros. The price is already above $7.5k and soon it will reach the 4 0's and even more. The expected high is $20k.

[Kakmakr]

Even if Bitcoin fails as a currency or even a commodity, then it already won the war against the Banks. Why? Well it is simple, because Bitcoin forced these old giants to "change" and to focus on their core business, which is clients. In recent months I have seen huge improvements being made in services offered by Banks and I think this was forced by their biggest competition. <Bitcoin> 

They had a choice, either be disrupted by Bitcoin or change their business focus. We will see how long this will last. 

[LogitechMouse]

To be honest, I didn't see any logic in your post. I saw only blah blah bleh bleh blah blah and nothing else (you know what I mean).

What I see in your post is you are a holder then it is good for you. Some people are holding Bitcoins too for some reasons. In any case, whatever happens I believe that BTC will rise in the next years .

[andika2018]

From the article that i am read, mastercard holding one patent on cryptocurrency as payment. If mastercard collaborate with bitcoin or others cryptocurrency, it will give big progress on cryptocurrency market.
Indeed, cryptocurrency market need more volume but i think when government regulation issued, I am believe big investor come to market and start pumping crypto price

[Main ML]

Yeah, let's talk about the logic of it but the context of the OP is the opposite of that logic, people lose their trust from the game of btc gods? what bitcoin has a god now? people lose their trust because it broke their expectations that it will make them rich in just a short period of time without taking the risk of losing money, master cards and prepaid? still controlled and centralized by the Government.

[ResuLT]

With the present growth, we can certainly say that it will reach 4 zeros. The price is already above $7.5k and soon it will reach the 4 0's and even more. The expected high is $20k.

Yeah, indeed. The present growth can might be a higher than your prediction though. I bet bitcoin could hit a new ath like 25k or more.

[Akiko]

With the present growth, we can certainly say that it will reach 4 zeros. The price is already above $7.5k and soon it will reach the 4 0's and even more. The expected high is $20k.

Yeah, indeed. The present growth can might be a higher than your prediction though. I bet bitcoin could hit a new ath like 25k or more.

Do not expecting too much on bitcoin price, maybe it will not reach the last price of it at the end of the year.
But there are many prediction that it will reach more than $20k and all of here are hoping for the huge price.
We need to wait on what will happen this coming few months and I guess it will be more profitable.

[Gurjasmeet]

Although bitcoin crypto currency value slow down in the market. remember it will be increased value coming soon. because bitcoin is the king of all coins.

[KagiSama]

I feel optimistic that bitcoin will reach 4 zeros again. as I see in coinmarketcap, the price is slowly raising recently, especially this week. but, we don't know when the bitcoin price is gonna hit 4 zeros, so I think we need to be optimistic and keep hold.

[dutchkay]

Bitcoin FUD everywhere. First it seems like a joke when it started and we are being ignored. They were like ignore them, they will get tired and it all die down rather the fire keeps coming up. Before they know it we are all over the media and we are making headlines. Then they started fighting us, using FUD against us. The big folks are now joining in. Government trying to control it. Some countries banning it while some are embracing it. Some are watching from the sidelines to see where it will lead to. Bitcoin all hail the King.

[adzino]

Price drop does not occur only because of FUDs being spread. Price might drop due to correction. If the price of bitcoin and other crypto currencies skyrocket for no apparent reason, then we will be seeing a correction phase where the price starts to drop and go back to its actual value. Again price might drop after a hype has ended. Like look how the price went above $8,500 when ETF was proposed?  When the proposal was rejected the price went down below $7,800 but was able to recover back to $8,200.

[riosakamoto]

Despite the negativity spread by media and the huge amount of FUD everywhere, we're step by step on the way to mass adaption, each day new enthusiastic are joining the cryptosphere, guided by greed or supporting the new era technology that's a different issue, we are slowly recovering from months of bear market bitcoin is already back to 8k and we'll see the quaternary zeroes very soon.

[Osakrita]

Every set back cryptocurrencies are facing now will only last for a time, then most people will realise the huge opportunities it offers and then embrace it .bitcoin is amazing

[131tc01n]

as people have fear of it

only the newbies who fail to understand bitcoin have fear of it and make irrational decisions like panic selling during a rise or selling at the bottom. and that was the drop that happened more than a month ago.
the rest aren't fooled by some online nonsense.

yes many new people enter the world of crypto even they do not understand about bitcoin, they just follow the trend and age, they feel can aya quickly, but after seeing the reality they feel panic, they invest without having knowledge

[mohammedmattar]

Most of the talk about BTC's death are newbies
Panic makes them stupid
They sell with loss from mere misgivings
Then they return to regret
BTC is still at the beginning of the road and has a lot ahead

[etnichalx837]

I keep saying that so long as the blockchain technology is sound,bitcoin is secure. Money always follows technology and we have many great examples to chose from. Bitcoin will become increasingly more valuable as more people get to understand it.

Talking about bitcoin certainly relies on logic, because what counts is your money will be a lot (profit) or reduced (loss). So as a trader / investor, the general rule is to buy when the price is cheap and sell when the price is expensive. But the reality is not that simple because there are many parameters that affect the price of bitcoin, one of which is the media factor. Media is a source of information that contains positive issues or negative issues about bitcoin, and that will make the price of bitcoin rise or fall.

[Daniwahyu007]

of course ... bitcoin can definitely come back with 4 zeroes ... because the developments in the market are very rapid and also the interest of bitcoin is increasing