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July 23, 2018, 09:16:05 AM
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What's gonna happen if crypto get ETF approval???  All about bitcoin ETF  
  



Recently there's not a single member of this community who didn't heard about the ETF thing.. But Many of them also Have Question..  What is ETF???  And many have Question..  What's the benefit of ETF??  Here is the answer..


What the hell is ETF??? Huh  


ETF stands for “exchange-traded fund ” and describes a kind of investment fund where the price of assets like gold, stocks and oil can be tracked. These assets can then be traded on exchanges, just like conventional stocks. What this means is that investors have the option of buying and selling their holdings in this exchange-traded funds to other investors via the stock exchange.Just Like the other stocks..


What's the Benefits of a Bitcoin ETF  Shocked Huh  


Now that we’ve got the issue of “what is Bitcoin ETF?” out of the way, let’s explore some of the benefits of having Bitcoins as an asset class on an ETF. One existing drawback to investing in Bitcoin is the complexity surrounding it. However, with the advent of Bitcoin ETF, the cryptocurrency will become open to a diverse set of investors. in the Trillion Dollar market place..

This means that the richest peoples and investors who were willing but  unable of the trust can now invest in Bitcoin the way they would do for mutual funds and pension funds.



What will be the results of this ETF??    


We’ve established that as a result of the advent of ETF, the crypto market will have new entrants new investors. New investment firms..etc.. It is then expected that Bitcoin ETFs will cause the value of Bitcoin to a high level.. This is same with the occurrence in the early 2000s where ETF for gold was set up and the price of gold surged Rapidly overnight..
The same thing gonna happen with the crypto market too.. And we'll be able to see 40k-50k$ price of bitcoin if we got approval in ETF. And crypto market will become Trillion Dollar Market Soon ..  
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July 23, 2018, 11:08:10 AM
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And now, let's explain why ETFs are just more of what Bitcoin was built to replace.  

In case anyone hadn't noticed, the global economy is in turmoil because all the banks and other big institutional investors are constantly gambling on derivatives and other such financial instruments.  These instruments largely consist of repackaged debt obligations and IOUs.  Then, when they inevitably get their bets wrong, the public has to bail the banks out, the pension pots get raided until there's hardly anything left, the stock market eventually crashes and the traders start throwing themselves out of windows again.  Rinse, repeat.  That's literally how it works.  The global economy in a nutshell.  But whatever happens, it's ultimately ordinary people who don't realise any of this is happening who end up being the ones who foot the bill.  Yet, despite how ridiculous it all is, no one who's actively involved in this game seems to want to change it.  It's a terrible system.  It's so insane that you couldn't make this shit up.  It's a farce.

So someone created Bitcoin.  A pure system, with no debt.  And it's great.  No one can take money they haven't actually got to gamble with on bad debts.  But, instead of embracing this superior model, institutional investors wanted more infinite debt to gamble with, so they eagerly await the launch of Bitcoin ETFs IOUs where they can continue to speculate from the sidelines in the worthless casino they seemingly can't find the exit from.  Apparently that's too "complicated" for them.   Roll Eyes

They aren't going to be holding any actual bitcoins, they're just going to be playing with the IOUs.  That's their loss.    

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July 23, 2018, 11:29:50 AM
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There are three things that are possibly going to occur if bitcoin ETF will be approved by the Securities and Exchange COmmission. The first is that bitcoin may increase in value because of the good news, 2nd is that bitcoins value will decrease in value or 3rd there will be no effect. So today what we have is only a possibility but we will see what will really happen only after it was approved.
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July 23, 2018, 11:35:16 AM
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There are three things that are possibly going to occur if bitcoin ETF will be approved by the Securities and Exchange COmmission. The first is that bitcoin may increase in value because of the good news, 2nd is that bitcoins value will decrease in value or 3rd there will be no effect. So today what we have is only a possibility but we will see what will really happen only after it was approved.

I disagree. there is only one possibility, price will definitely increase in case ETF is approved by the SEC. and it won't be because ETF is a good thing or anything like that but it would be because of Fear Of Missing Out and pure speculation that bitcoin should rise because ETF was approved!
it doesn't have to even make sense, people have to believe in it and then act on this speculation for the price to go up. of course there is positive sides to such approval by SEC too but that will be more of a long term effect.

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July 24, 2018, 08:31:36 AM
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There are three things that are possibly going to occur if bitcoin ETF will be approved by the Securities and Exchange COmmission. The first is that bitcoin may increase in value because of the good news, 2nd is that bitcoins value will decrease in value or 3rd there will be no effect. So today what we have is only a possibility but we will see what will really happen only after it was approved.
There is only one thing that can happen.. The first one.. Because the investors will more assured to invest in bitcoin with minimal risk.. That's what will bring huge investment.  And investment means increasing of demands.  And demands make price increase
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July 24, 2018, 08:38:04 AM
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And now, let's explain why ETFs are just more of what Bitcoin was built to replace.  

In case anyone hadn't noticed, the global economy is in turmoil because all the banks and other big institutional investors are constantly gambling on derivatives and other such financial instruments.  These instruments largely consist of repackaged debt obligations and IOUs.  Then, when they inevitably get their bets wrong, the public has to bail the banks out, the pension pots get raided until there's hardly anything left, the stock market eventually crashes and the traders start throwing themselves out of windows again.  Rinse, repeat.  That's literally how it works.  The global economy in a nutshell.  But whatever happens, it's ultimately ordinary people who don't realise any of this is happening who end up being the ones who foot the bill.  Yet, despite how ridiculous it all is, no one who's actively involved in this game seems to want to change it.  It's a terrible system.  It's so insane that you couldn't make this shit up.  It's a farce.

So someone created Bitcoin.  A pure system, with no debt.  And it's great.  No one can take money they haven't actually got to gamble with on bad debts.  But, instead of embracing this superior model, institutional investors wanted more infinite debt to gamble with, so they eagerly await the launch of Bitcoin ETFs IOUs where they can continue to speculate from the sidelines in the worthless casino they seemingly can't find the exit from.  Apparently that's too "complicated" for them.   Roll Eyes

They aren't going to be holding any actual bitcoins, they're just going to be playing with the IOUs.  That's their loss.    
Yes there is possiblity of that too..But the bitcoin future trading is also same as you explained.. The Bitmex.com I'm talking about.. On the other hand getting this ETF will make bitcoin more reliable to invest to the new investors who were scared to invest before.. And that is really needed.. We can't claim bitcoin as a currency if it doesn't compete with other currencies in stocks.. That's what this ETF will do. So there is more positive expectation than negative i think.. and believe
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July 24, 2018, 08:50:04 AM
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What is more update is that even the eth is also having its own etf and we also do see more and more funds are getting into the shorting or longing of btc. These are great funds and systems for fresh funds to get into crypto without a lot of knowledge about crypto.
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July 24, 2018, 09:54:38 AM
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There are three things that are possibly going to occur if bitcoin ETF will be approved by the Securities and Exchange COmmission. The first is that bitcoin may increase in value because of the good news, 2nd is that bitcoins value will decrease in value or 3rd there will be no effect. So today what we have is only a possibility but we will see what will really happen only after it was approved.
I think the first possibility will happen If the Bitcoin ETF is approved, I doubt the second and last possibility will happen because I have seen amazing facts about this



ETF approval will allow Bitcoin to get new investors and the history of the ETF's tremendous impact will make speculators more passionate

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July 24, 2018, 10:26:58 AM
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I think the price will increase drastically. The approval of bitcoin will surely encourage more and more to invest.
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July 24, 2018, 10:52:57 AM
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it is all speculation right now. ETF is different but i feel like at the same time it is similar to Bitcoin Futures that we had last year. by that time everyone was repeating basically the same things as big players gonna come in and bitcoin gonna go to the moon ($100k) and things like that.
i believe ETF will come and hype the market and we can see a mini bubble and a mini bear market afterwards.

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July 24, 2018, 10:54:03 AM
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What's gonna happen if crypto get ETF approval???  All about bitcoin ETF  
  



Recently there's not a single member of this community who didn't heard about the ETF thing.. But Many of them also Have Question..  What is ETF???  And many have Question..  What's the benefit of ETF??  Here is the answer..


What the hell is ETF??? Huh  


ETF stands for “exchange-traded fund ” and describes a kind of investment fund where the price of assets like gold, stocks and oil can be tracked. These assets can then be traded on exchanges, just like conventional stocks. What this means is that investors have the option of buying and selling their holdings in this exchange-traded funds to other investors via the stock exchange.Just Like the other stocks..


What's the Benefits of a Bitcoin ETF  Shocked Huh  


Now that we’ve got the issue of “what is Bitcoin ETF?” out of the way, let’s explore some of the benefits of having Bitcoins as an asset class on an ETF. One existing drawback to investing in Bitcoin is the complexity surrounding it. However, with the advent of Bitcoin ETF, the cryptocurrency will become open to a diverse set of investors. in the Trillion Dollar market place..

This means that the richest peoples and investors who were willing but  unable of the trust can now invest in Bitcoin the way they would do for mutual funds and pension funds.



What will be the results of this ETF??    


We’ve established that as a result of the advent of ETF, the crypto market will have new entrants new investors. New investment firms..etc.. It is then expected that Bitcoin ETFs will cause the value of Bitcoin to a high level.. This is same with the occurrence in the early 2000s where ETF for gold was set up and the price of gold surged Rapidly overnight..
The same thing gonna happen with the crypto market too.. And we'll be able to see 40k-50k$ price of bitcoin if we got approval in ETF. And crypto market will become Trillion Dollar Market Soon ..  

If this happens, I think this will be a positive sign for the future of BTC and crypto. People still need to wait until August 16 to see whether the BTC is approved by the ETF, I believe the value of the MOF in the coming time will increase continuously.
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July 26, 2018, 10:41:11 AM
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This discussion will help thousands to know deeply regard ETF what actually every BTC and Crypto enthusiasts will need to know now or tomorrow. ETF added a new flavor in BTC market which by many will develop the BTC market and make it easier to transact and trade. We just need to get the approval.
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July 26, 2018, 10:58:47 AM
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I don't think the ETF will get approved. All the same problems that existed last year (the unregulated and manipulated exchanges setting prices) still exist.

Volumes at the regulated exchange arn't yet big enough for the SEC to feel that the regulated exchanges are setting the prices.

 
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July 26, 2018, 11:33:25 AM
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There are three things that are possibly going to occur if bitcoin ETF will be approved by the Securities and Exchange COmmission. The first is that bitcoin may increase in value because of the good news, 2nd is that bitcoins value will decrease in value or 3rd there will be no effect. So today what we have is only a possibility but we will see what will really happen only after it was approved.

I disagree. there is only one possibility, price will definitely increase in case ETF is approved by the SEC. and it won't be because ETF is a good thing or anything like that but it would be because of Fear Of Missing Out and pure speculation that bitcoin should rise because ETF was approved!
it doesn't have to even make sense, people have to believe in it and then act on this speculation for the price to go up. of course there is positive sides to such approval by SEC too but that will be more of a long term effect.

It still depends largely on what would the market reaction be. While most people are banking on the bitcoin ETF to be approved, without enough support on a possible push, it wouldn't be an increase at all. Most people see the approval of an ETF to be somewhat magical, while in reality if a large group of traders aren't believing on the effects of such, there would be a stalemate and no real crashes or increase at all. As you've said, it's pure speculation, and even with the approval of a 'big' event, what happens in the price will still be pure speculation, so assuming that it will definitely increase is somewhat wrong.

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July 26, 2018, 11:36:37 AM
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they are stalling about Bitcoin ETF approval since years - I don't think they will allow it soon.
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If Bitcoin gets ETF approval, then Bitcoin will be more profitable since it will be more secure. I think the demand will increase after getting ETF approval in many crystalline demand in the crypto market.
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There are three things that are possibly going to occur if bitcoin ETF will be approved by the Securities and Exchange COmmission. The first is that bitcoin may increase in value because of the good news, 2nd is that bitcoins value will decrease in value or 3rd there will be no effect. So today what we have is only a possibility but we will see what will really happen only after it was approved.

I disagree. there is only one possibility, price will definitely increase in case ETF is approved by the SEC. and it won't be because ETF is a good thing or anything like that but it would be because of Fear Of Missing Out and pure speculation that bitcoin should rise because ETF was approved!
it doesn't have to even make sense, people have to believe in it and then act on this speculation for the price to go up. of course there is positive sides to such approval by SEC too but that will be more of a long term effect.

It still depends largely on what would the market reaction be. While most people are banking on the bitcoin ETF to be approved, without enough support on a possible push, it wouldn't be an increase at all. Most people see the approval of an ETF to be somewhat magical, while in reality if a large group of traders aren't believing on the effects of such, there would be a stalemate and no real crashes or increase at all. As you've said, it's pure speculation, and even with the approval of a 'big' event, what happens in the price will still be pure speculation, so assuming that it will definitely increase is somewhat wrong.

yeah, I agree. I actually have changed my mind in the past 3 days. I no longer say "definitely" increase any more. I think we may even see a drop although that depends on how the market reacts up until that point. the drop that I am talking about is the "sell the news" kind of drop which means there should first be a big rise prior to the statement from SEC regarding approval or disapproval of ETF.

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July 26, 2018, 02:32:53 PM
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In my opinion, if approval does happen, bitcoin will go up rapidly, as the market expands for investors, and will be able to reassess itself and give people confidence, as a result of which there will be a large influx of investments.
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July 27, 2018, 10:07:52 AM
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I think there's been too much talk about ETFs lately, but the rate isn't rising from that. I think you should be careful
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July 27, 2018, 10:13:54 AM
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I hope that the cost of bitcoin will increase and reach new maximum values, but I agree that only after acceptance we can see what will happen to him in fact, perhaps this is another manipulation
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