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I have a really hard time buying into the claims of the "new ownership." Firstly, nobody's ever heard of them and yet they're the ones who came through with the "best offer" for the buyout? And there isn't a word about them anywhere on Google, with the only other company bearing the same name having been based in Georgia and going defunct back in 2007. Next, they're making sure people who invested USD get made whole immediately. Why? To avoid international wire fraud charges by the US government, no doubt. The Heartbleed "exploit" is a smokescreen in order to justify not restoring everyone's balances. These are not web wallets, the number on our account was just a reflection of an amount that would have existed on the exchanges. The only way Heartbleed would have affected ANY member would be if someone gained access to your account and initiated a transfer of Bitcoin without your knowledge or consent. That's it...and if you had two factor authentication installed, even less likely you would have needed to feel any impact from it. It's the whole Mt. Gox "Transaction Malleability" claim, again.
Add to that the fact that ANY venture capital group worth a damn would have done its due diligence before a buyout and ensured that the books were 100% balanced, they wouldn't have done that AFTER the buyout.
It's all COMPLETELY fishy. I've got quite a bit of money tied up in my account there and I'm really baffled by how this is going down, right now. The two transfers I've seen come out of my "legacy fund" into my normal balance thus far are laughable.
I really hope this all ends up being some kind of colossally mismanaged change of hands, but I'm bracing for the worst.
It has crossed over the line, no doubt anymore. This is clearly a scam. |
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lesnod11
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April 23, 2014, 02:53:20 AM |
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I have had one transfer from legacy to active, it was for .009. I don't understand why do this, it seems like more cost and overhead to send such small amounts to each account.
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nightengale
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April 23, 2014, 03:25:08 AM |
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I agree that this whole thing isn't looking good, but why all of the theatrics if they could just leave with the money? What's the point?
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April 23, 2014, 03:28:56 AM |
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I have had one transfer from legacy to active, it was for .009. I don't understand why do this, it seems like more cost and overhead to send such small amounts to each account.
Maybe it is automatically auditing the accounts. And they only return a small portion on every pass. Or maybe they lost most of the coins and now are using what they make to pay back the funds. |
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lesnod11
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April 23, 2014, 03:45:53 AM |
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I hate how we are having to guess how and why they are doing it like this, a little more information would be nice.
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tom14cat14
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April 23, 2014, 04:09:50 AM |
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I hate how we are having to guess how and why they are doing it like this, a little more information would be nice.
That would be nice. But of course it wouldn't matter. We would tell them they are doing it wrong or that they are still a scam just posting BS. The only way to calm fears is to do this audit quickly and send those trying to withdraw their BTC. |
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crayboy29
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April 23, 2014, 04:25:46 AM |
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After the site was down, everyone wanted to withdraw. At that point they could either run off with the money, or find a way to stop people withdrawing while accepting new deposits to get a bit more life out of the scheme. Why they came up with such a ridiculous story that no one would believe is either because they are incredibly stupid, or they think we are incredibly stupid. Either that or Admin is Mark Karpeles.... I just hope "Adam" is able to find a new job  There are a million things wrong with their story, but firstly, how would a company even contact them about their proposition ? Submit a support ticket to "Adam"   |
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April 23, 2014, 04:34:44 AM |
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After the site was down, everyone wanted to withdraw. At that point they could either run off with the money, or find a way to stop people withdrawing while accepting new deposits to get a bit more life out of the scheme. Why they came up with such a ridiculous story that no one would believe is either because they are incredibly stupid, or they think we are incredibly stupid. Either that or Admin is Mark Karpeles.... I just hope "Adam" is able to find a new job There are a million things wrong with their story, but firstly, how would a company even contact them about their proposition ? Submit a support ticket to "Adam" I will say it could be possible just because of what is going on at cryptorush. Of course that means we have pretty much lost our money and they are trying to figure out how to get it back. |
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April 23, 2014, 04:56:20 AM |
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>I just hope "Adam" is able to find a new job
He will establish a new ponzi.
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April 23, 2014, 05:13:29 AM |
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Hmmmmm, they're definitely dedicated to trying to sell this story. 22/04/2014 23:18 Legacy Fund Transfer of 0.0006
22/04/2014 18:00 Legacy Fund Transfer of 0.0025 I'll just wait around and see what happens. Glad I was cautious and only put in 0.2 BTC. |
PSA: scrypt.cc is a scam, most likely of the "ponzi" variety. You will lose your money if you try to "invest" or "play" or whatever you want to call your participation in this shitshow. You've been warned.
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Slipknot79
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April 23, 2014, 06:15:38 AM |
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The main thing is, Global Capital Alliance doesnt exist. If you search on google "Global Capital Alliance" (which has been mentioned on results page of btc arbs) you will find "Global Alliance Capital" ( http://globalalliancecapital.com/) |
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dyask
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April 23, 2014, 06:28:12 AM |
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The main thing is, Global Capital Alliance doesnt exist. If you search on google "Global Capital Alliance" (which has been mentioned on results page of btc arbs) you will find "Global Alliance Capital" ( http://globalalliancecapital.com/) That doesn't mean that they don't exist. However it also doesn't mean it isn't a scam. |
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Slipknot79
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April 23, 2014, 06:35:08 AM |
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The main thing is, Global Capital Alliance doesnt exist. If you search on google "Global Capital Alliance" (which has been mentioned on results page of btc arbs) you will find "Global Alliance Capital" ( http://globalalliancecapital.com/) That doesn't mean that they don't exist. However it also doesn't mean it isn't a scam. Sure, a company that claimed to invested in "bitcoin-industry" doesnt exist on the internet  Im sure, Btc Arbs became acquainted with Global on one of these meetings with important representatives of bitcoin industry  It happened in the lunch break at 12:30pm after discussions on the future of bitcoin. |
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April 23, 2014, 06:47:24 AM |
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I agree that this whole thing isn't looking good, but why all of the theatrics if they could just leave with the money? What's the point?
The point was mentioned a few times in the last few pages. To keep the site open and collect some more deposit from fools who are not doing their due diligence. |
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dyask
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April 23, 2014, 06:50:40 AM |
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I agree that this whole thing isn't looking good, but why all of the theatrics if they could just leave with the money? What's the point?
The point was mentioned a few times in the last few pages. To keep the site open and collect some more deposit from fools who are not doing their due diligence. This isn't how companies are bought, it doesn't happen suddenly without giving customers time to decide what to do. This is 100% scam. No doubt about it. |
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April 23, 2014, 07:00:56 AM |
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Here is what the admin of Money-News-Online, the biggest ponzi pusher on the planet has to say: BTCARBS – ON PROBLEM STATUS, NO FURTHER DEPOSITS ADVISED
The final piece of news for tonight is the unfortunate, but let’s be honest always inevitable conclusion of BTCArbs. While I know these things always happen eventually, there was no obvious indicator that BTCArbs would go so suddenly or under the circumstances that it has. There was a slowdown in activities over the Easter holiday weekend but that was fine, the admin kept us informed about that well in advance. It came as a complete surprise today that the program is quite clearly about to finish once and for all, especially as up until only yesterday, Monday, payments continued as normal. All that changed very suddenly today when the following update was sent, something bordering on the ridiculous in my own opinion and nothing short of bizarre. I’ll let you read it first before I tell you what I think of it myself, but the general gist of it is that BTCArbs has been taken over by somebody else (yeah, right!) and the current admin is no longer involved. And the new admin is going to do things differently, such as you know, possibly not paying you. I have to tell you though that personally my own deposit in BTCArbs was returned today without me ever actually asking for it and without the admin (whoever he may be!) contacting me. I can only assume in the absence of any formal communication that he doesn’t want me monitoring BTCArbs anymore and whatever stroke he’s planning to pull seems to prefer that I not be present to witness it or warn you about it. Please read the following update first:
(Here the MNO admin post the update from btc-arb website)
OK, so that there be NO misunderstanding here, BTCArbs has been moved to Problem Status on MNO, I suspect the admin will shortly be blaming/accusing me of trying to destroy the program and with it the accounts of the members, so I need to make this very clear to you all why I have done this. No matter what you hear from anybody else, BTCArbs is on Problem Status for this reason – there has been a fundamental change in the rules under which investors joined, and those investors were neither consulted nor warned about them before they were implemented. You could have joined BTCArbs as recently as this afternoon with the promise that you were free to withdraw your principal and leave at anytime, however this “promise” has now been withdrawn and your deposit is being held in limbo. The admin says this will be returned, but neglects to tell you when. Then again, HYIP admins say a lot of things. New deposits are naturally gratefully accepted, but tough luck if you thought the terms and conditions you joined under would actually be applied.
So it seems existing members deposits are to be frozen, pending some nonsense investigation which can last indefinitely. I admit my own deposit was returned, but this is now quite clear that as a monitor and basically a channel of communication between other members this was purely selective in order to take MNO out of the loop. Other members have not been so lucky and their deposits are being held while new money is still accepted. Believe what you like from the admin’s update/excuse, but the end result is the same – any further deposits in BTCArbs are not advised. I have of course contacted the admin, but he has yet to reply. |
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April 23, 2014, 09:10:36 AM |
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Guys, clarify this question please:
All the deposit are locked in the legacy funds, then it's imposible to withdrawal, true?
- Who have been able to withdrawal all his funds in legacy fund?
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April 23, 2014, 09:34:21 AM |
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April 23, 2014, 10:02:50 AM |
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Man - you're lucky..I requested a withdrawal of 1.12 btc with 2 hours later than you..now I am stucked with them on the legacy account and your transaction was completed...congrats  |
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nicklello
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April 23, 2014, 10:06:25 AM |
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The optimist in me believes this is a real takeover --- I've been through some with Private Investment companies that have seen what seems like real crazy things going on.
It's not Totally unheard of for an Investment group to not exist as an Internet presence.. sometimes these groups are Private Investors who just operate under a company name for one joint investment.
I am surprised that 'Adam' wouldn't be kept on for a transition period though....
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