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October 16, 2014, 02:09:00 PM
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And now we have BIGGEST max profit among all dice sites!

Do you have proof for that?
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October 16, 2014, 02:10:45 PM
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And now we have BIGGEST max profit among all dice sites!

Do you have proof for that?
Max profit on PD is 40BTC, we have 40.12BTC, you can show me any other casinos with bigger profits?

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October 16, 2014, 06:52:51 PM
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And now we have BIGGEST max profit among all dice sites!

Do you have proof for that?
Max profit on PD is 40BTC, we have 40.12BTC, you can show me any other casinos with bigger profits?

juggernut is going to all the gambling threads and posting the first half-thought that comes into his head. Probably just trying to get his post count up so he can sell the account.

Check out his list of recent posts. All brainless one-liners.

I particularly liked this one on the dice.ninja thread:

I love playing with PLINKO!! Will try it soon!

There's page after page discussing the scam, and how the site just vanished without a trace, and he posts that.  Roll Eyes

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October 16, 2014, 07:47:08 PM
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And now we have BIGGEST max profit among all dice sites!

Do you have proof for that?
Max profit on PD is 40BTC, we have 40.12BTC, you can show me any other casinos with bigger profits?

juggernut is going to all the gambling threads and posting the first half-thought that comes into his head. Probably just trying to get his post count up so he can sell the account.

Check out his list of recent posts. All brainless one-liners.

I particularly liked this one on the dice.ninja thread:

I love playing with PLINKO!! Will try it soon!

There's page after page discussing the scam, and how the site just vanished without a trace, and he posts that.  Roll Eyes

Yes, i noticed that too! BTW have you placed on bitdice to check out the site? Tongue

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October 16, 2014, 07:51:56 PM
 #165

And now we have BIGGEST max profit among all dice sites!

Do you have proof for that?
Max profit on PD is 40BTC, we have 40.12BTC, you can show me any other casinos with bigger profits?

juggernut is going to all the gambling threads and posting the first half-thought that comes into his head. Probably just trying to get his post count up so he can sell the account.

Check out his list of recent posts. All brainless one-liners.

I particularly liked this one on the dice.ninja thread:

I love playing with PLINKO!! Will try it soon!

There's page after page discussing the scam, and how the site just vanished without a trace, and he posts that.  Roll Eyes
This community needs another forum with faggot-detector.


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October 18, 2014, 03:24:21 AM
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I like this one 2, but i trust prcdice more cus it is longer around=)
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October 18, 2014, 05:49:28 AM
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Yes, i noticed that too! BTW have you placed played on bitdice to check out the site? Tongue

I don't think I've played there.

I was just about to say I would go and check it out, but the last two times I went to check out a dice site I ended up liking it, playing a bunch, investing, putting a link to them in my signature, then divesting, withdrawing, and shortly afterwards watching as they scammed thousands of coins from other investors, and ended up being accused of leading innocent investors to their doom.

So do you mind if I sit this one out?

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October 18, 2014, 07:38:04 AM
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Yes, i noticed that too! BTW have you placed played on bitdice to check out the site? Tongue

I don't think I've played there.

I was just about to say I would go and check it out, but the last two times I went to check out a dice site I ended up liking it, playing a bunch, investing, putting a link to them in my signature, then divesting, withdrawing, and shortly afterwards watching as they scammed thousands of coins from other investors, and ended up being accused of leading innocent investors to their doom.

So do you mind if I sit this one out?

You will be sit out for very long time Smiley

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October 18, 2014, 10:02:57 AM
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Nice to see the site investments are up attracting more gamblers. I am invested in both PRC and bitdice. I really hope none of them becomes a ninja.

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Nice to see the site investments are up attracting more gamblers. I am invested in both PRC and bitdice. I really hope none of them becomes a ninja.


yes same people involved here bud....be careful  Roll Eyes
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October 19, 2014, 12:01:44 AM
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So do you mind if I sit this one out?

Seriously dooglus it would be great if you checked it out.  I think Alex and the site would really benefit from your feedback.  Yes, there have been a spate of bad sites recently, but maybe there are a few other honest people out there in cryptoland?

Understand if you just want to be a bystander on this one, but don't underestimate what you contribute to this community.

Thanks and good luck!
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October 19, 2014, 12:20:13 AM
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Seriously dooglus it would be great if you checked it out.  I think Alex and the site would really benefit from your feedback.  Yes, there have been a spate of bad sites recently, but maybe there are a few other honest people out there in cryptoland?

The problem is, if I try it out and give positive feedback, trolls like that BB asshole will accuse me of being involved with the site. If it turns out to be a scam in the end, I don't want to be accused of having led people to invest in it. And if it doesn't, the existing investors probably don't want to be diluted anyway.

I guess I can check out the provable fairness and comment on whether that works or not... OK, I'll do that.

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October 19, 2014, 12:37:07 AM
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Seriously dooglus it would be great if you checked it out.  I think Alex and the site would really benefit from your feedback.  Yes, there have been a spate of bad sites recently, but maybe there are a few other honest people out there in cryptoland?

The problem is, if I try it out and give positive feedback, trolls like that BB asshole will accuse me of being involved with the site. If it turns out to be a scam in the end, I don't want to be accused of having led people to invest in it. And if it doesn't, the existing investors probably don't want to be diluted anyway.

I guess I can check out the provable fairness and comment on whether that works or not... OK, I'll do that.


stick to the maths king midas!  Cool
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October 19, 2014, 12:44:07 AM
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So the first thing I notice is that I can't find any information on the site about the provable fairness. I don't see a FAQ link, and clicking 'verify' just asks me for a bunch of info I don't have, since I didn't even make an account yet.

Then I noticed there's a 'help' link, with "Each bet is provably fair and we show you how to check it" - but none of that is linked to further information. I'll keep looking.

OK, so further down the help text there's a section "How is it provably fair?"

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Each bet can be verified using the day's secret, user seed and user id, we also use your bet number as nonce. We create a bet hash using those data, we then take the first 5 characters of that hash string and convert them to a decimal integer, If it is less than 1 million, we divide it by 10,000 and use it as your dice roll. If it's not we take another 5 characters and repeat.
If we could not find less than a million number of the 25 groups of five characters, we use the remaining 3 characters, which give a number in the range 0 through 4095, which corresponds to a dice roll of 0.0000 through 0.4095.

Each day we select new secrets, however we already generated all of them, and their SHA512 hashes ( we perform a SHA512 cryptographic algorithm on secret to get a completely different value. Thus when we release last day secret you can hash it and confirm that we used exactly that secret) available for download.

Secret file can be found here

We implemented new engine with Hi\Low since bet #228033, below code can be used to verify new algorithm.

I don't like the idea of daily secrets. It means I have to wait up to 24 hours to verify my bets.

I'm a little worried about "bet number". Is that a system-wide betid? If so, that's not provably fair. Maybe it's a personal bet counter (my first bet is 1, my 2nd bet is 2, etc.) in which case that's fine. It would be good if that text was less ambiguous.

Looking at the code at the end, I see it uses the userid in the hash, which I guess is only needed if the bet number is per-user, not global.

Maybe mention that the code is Ruby (if it is?) to give people a hint as to how to run it.

The help text mentions "user seed". The script mentions "client seed". I don't see any mention of how to set that value. I presume they're the same thing, so you should decide what to call it.

I see you're using a simple sha512 to generate the rolls rather than the more standard practice of using hmac. Any reason for this?


So I went to create an account, but couldn't see how to. It appears one was automatically created for me and I just need to set the username. And now I see how to set the user/client seed too.

Trying to set up 2FA, I'm given a QR code, but not the secret string. I like to make a note on paper of the secret string as a way of backing up my 2FA codes in case I lose my 2FA device. Since I can't back it up, I decide not to enable 2FA now. I click the 'x' in the 2FA dialog and the whole password-setting thing disappears too. Did I lose my username and password setting too? I open it up again, and my username and password are in there, so I hope the password is still what I typed. I click 'update' and it tells me "Can be only a-z and 0-9". But it doesn't tell me WHAT Can be only a-z and 0-9. I'm guessing it's the user seed, since I tried setting it to a sentence. Why can't I have spaces in my client seed? And if I can't, why not tell me I can't when I edit the field, or before I edit it. I remove the spaces and it lets me update. I sign out and in again to make sure I have the password right. I do.

So I went to the chat, looking for rain (of course)... It's apparently only available to players who have bet already. That seems kind of backwards - I would expect freebies to be given to new players to get them started, but whatever. Maybe rain is different than faucets. Apparently there's been some other 'dooglus' in the chat pretending to be me. I guess I'll deposit and play a little.

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Seriously dooglus it would be great if you checked it out.  I think Alex and the site would really benefit from your feedback.  Yes, there have been a spate of bad sites recently, but maybe there are a few other honest people out there in cryptoland?

The problem is, if I try it out and give positive feedback, trolls like that BB asshole will accuse me of being involved with the site. If it turns out to be a scam in the end, I don't want to be accused of having led people to invest in it. And if it doesn't, the existing investors probably don't want to be diluted anyway.

I guess I can check out the provable fairness and comment on whether that works or not... OK, I'll do that.

Ha, ha, I hear you dooglus, I realize that with some users you can't win, but I know Alex will appreciate your comments, even if they are not all positive.

Seeing your review, I agree I'm confused by the verification method too, but it is possible, AK thought it might be rigged after a losing streak but he was able to verify all the rolls.

I see Alex has given you a tip so you can play.  Good Luck!
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Thanks for the review Dooglus, I will address all questions tomorrow. You are right, bet number is our nonce and unique to each user.

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October 19, 2014, 01:06:08 AM
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So yeah, I deposited 10 BTC, and am waiting for it to confirm.

I chatted a little, and Alex (userid 1, presumably the owner) tipped me 0.1 BTC so I could try the site.

Apparently the 2FA secret is visible if you "view source", and a new FAQ is going to be uploaded tomorrow.

The betting is really pretty quick (I have a ping time of around 700 ms to everywhere since I use satellite internet, so quick is a relative term for me) and easy using the keyboard shortcuts provided. I was confused at first as to why X and C weren't changing my stake, but it's because I had the stake input box focussed. You have to click outside of it for the shortcuts to work. That could be improved. If I saw the X's and C's appearing in the stake field, I would have instantly realised what was going on, but they're being filtered, so nothing at all appears to happen when I press X or C.

I turned the 0.1 BTC into 0.11111 BTC and came back to write this.

The top line of the screen, where it says "BETS: 1,148,258 WAGERED: 25,333.47472" keeps jumping around in a distracting way. The problem is that occasionally the wagered amount ends with a zero, which isn't shown and so the whole line gets shorter. It's right-aligned, and so the whole line shifts to the right for a second until the wagered amount stops ending with a zero. Left aligning it, or formatting the wagered amount to always show 5 decimal places even if it ends with a zero would fix that.

I see a similar distraction with the 'site profit' field, where the bitcoin symbol moves to the left whenever the profit ends with a zero.

The 'deposit' button seems to have changed colour. I don't remember it being so hard to read before:



I see my deposit transaction has confirmed - could it be trying to tell me that? I've no idea. Maybe it's just a glitch.

I tried my first "real" bet, after my deposit confirmed. I set the stake to 0.1 BTC, clicked 'hi', and after a delay got a message:

"Something happened, did not receive reply in 10 seconds, try again or refresh the page".

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Redis cluster crashed, restoring them, need few minutes, do not worry.

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October 19, 2014, 01:09:11 AM
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I tried clicking 'hi' again and got the same error message.

I tried chatting, but didn't see my message appear.

The most recent message in the chat is 6 minutes old, and the chat was very active last I looked. I'll try reloading the page.

"502 Bad Gateway

nginx"

Good game - you got me!

Edit: "Redis cluster crashed"? That's a new one. You're meant to say "we hired a new employee and oops he stole all your coins" or just "oops we got hacked lol". Such noob.

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Sorry for this, it's keep crashing. I localised it to our anti TOR check: final error: resolv.rb:835:in `send': Operation not permitted - send(2) (Errno::EPERM) on checking TOR's IP Address. Need some more time to fix. Will keep updated.

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