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August 01, 2018, 01:55:03 PM
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It means he get price 0.08 BTC for 7 merit  Huh.
The most expensive merit trade LOL

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Please double  check next time before collateral token.
From now on I will check infinite times  Cool
Thing is, when you are aware of something then you can take protections and I had no prior knowledge about this kind of tricks could be possible. We learn from experience.


When reading this thread, another scam came to mind... I'd like to warn you and other people about this as well.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2335323.msg23758209#msg23758209
Seem like this kind of attempts are happening quite often. We need more awareness so the community can get alerted.


if yishak the scammer planned for this, why did he use his original account (full member) and not a newbie account?  maybe using a full member account will have more chance at getting this loan, which he did.  it's like selling a full member account for $600.
Only yishak knows what was/is in his mind. I really hope he comes up clean. A good person can turn into bad when everything is against him. I hope that's what happened with him.


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did darkstar tried sending less amount of old hydro (something like 100k) to make the transaction work?  i had similar case like this before where sending my eth token to exchange always fail no matter how high the gas setting was.

Not yet however I assume it's meaningless. It's really understandable that these were outdated tokens when yishak said sorry to me.


A useful lesson thanks for sharing it, sucks that you had to be the fall guy that learned it the hard way.
Someone had to pay for the lesson, it was overpriced though  Undecided I am happy that this experience will alert you as well since we both are in same business (kind of).

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August 01, 2018, 04:00:29 PM
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did darkstar tried sending less amount of old hydro (something like 100k) to make the transaction work?  i had similar case like this before where sending my eth token to exchange always fail no matter how high the gas setting was.

I've thought about it but haven't tried as it's just a waste of gas for a useless token. If mdayonliner wants to try something, or wants the tokens, I can try sending it to them.

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August 01, 2018, 05:37:54 PM
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Scammers are everywhere. There is no safety. Scammers are too smart they try to scam new way each time..
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August 01, 2018, 05:56:16 PM
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I've thought about it but haven't tried as it's just a waste of gas for a useless token. If mdayonliner wants to try something, or wants the tokens, I can try sending it to them.
Don't bother mate. It's both waste of time and the little gas price that will be needed for this useless transaction.

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August 01, 2018, 11:09:25 PM
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May be scammer give merit instead of btc  Wink. I can see he given 7 merit on this thread. Even he scam btc he return you merit  Grin . Very Merciful scammer Lol. It means he get price 0.08 BTC for 7 merit  Huh. Please double  check next time before collateral token. Especially contract address. Because any token can be created by spending 2$ gas fee. Scammers are more advance from us.

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August 02, 2018, 07:17:08 AM
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Expensive lesson, but a valuable one. Out of the nearly 3 years I've been a member here, I haven't seen any scams like this. Sorry about your loss, man. Regardless of what that troll said, $600 is $600. If it means nothing to him, maybe he should put up the 0.08BTC instead of making such an asinine statement.

Karma's a bitch, and I really hope that @yishak gets what's coming to him.

I appreciate you posting this, or I would never have known about this kind of scam. Thanks for sharing, @mdayonliner

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August 02, 2018, 07:56:24 AM
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I've been in Meta too much and didn't even pay a visit here in Scam Accusation. I won't be able to find this out if I didn't stalked at your profile  Tongue By the way I'm sorry for you loss mdayonliner, I'm proud of you because even though this scammer scammed you, you still pray for this guy's sake. Well, there's nothing I can do as well than to wish that yishak return the amount of Bitcoin he stole even if it takes a couple of months. I never had such amount of Bitcoin and if I'm the owner, I'd rather go crazy than to pray for the guy. Anyway, wishing you luck Buddy.



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August 02, 2018, 08:25:21 PM
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I hope it's ok to share the PM here since there are nothing to hide. yishak actually PMed me yesterday unexpectedly...
Did you notice this?
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July 30, 2018, 10:40:13 PM - yishak - password changed
This email address was recently changed too, but I don't know when.

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August 02, 2018, 09:10:22 PM
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This email address was recently changed too, but I don't know when.
It must have been changed at least a month ago. For how many months does it show in the trust page that the email/password has been changed?
OP, its really nice to see that you're still giving him(yishak) the benefit of the doubt even after he scammed you and the fact that you're calmly handling things. We don't see this happening everyday or ever. Don't worry, money will come and go, and you'll rightfully get what you deserve(directly or indirectly).

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August 02, 2018, 09:20:52 PM
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Yishak was trying to give OP the account after the scam was revealed. Maybe they changed the password beforehand, if they use the password for other logins.

Or changed it after OP didn't take the account

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August 02, 2018, 09:36:25 PM
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This email address was recently changed too, but I don't know when.
It must have been changed at least a month ago. For how many months does it show in the trust page that the email/password has been changed?

Three months for the seclog as far as I can recall.

@Loyce, he probably changed it to not include his name/reveal his actual email address to avoid spam.

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August 03, 2018, 09:28:06 AM
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I doubt that troll has 0.08BTC LOL
I appreciate you posting this, or I would never have known about this kind of scam. Thanks for sharing, @mdayonliner
You are welcome buddy and glad that you found something to be aware of from this post.

The style was very unique to me, I never thought this could be a way to take advantages of outdated coins. In fact, I did not have any prior knowledge that a coin can be outdated.

I did not have any idea about the token. I looked for it on CMC, saw it's listed there. Then I looked for the exchanges which has listed the coin and found out coinex do. I checked the price on coinex. Found the price is ok for me to take the collateral. That's it. I did not have anything else in mind like the coin I am seeing on coinex or CMC is not the same coin (actually same but with different contract address ) I was about to get as collateral. I had to pay for my lack of knowledge. I hope from now on, no one feels the same like me. Trust me it's one of those moments when you want to slap or hurt yourself badly. It becomes normal later though.


By the way I'm sorry for you loss mdayonliner, I'm proud of you because even though this scammer scammed you, you still pray for this guy's sake.
It's ok mate. I am lucky that it was not few Bitcoin or very large amount. I can recover the amount I lost and this amount actually will not change anything big time for both me or yishak but it's an experience. For me - I had to pay a big amount to learn the lesson and for yishak - it should be a memory not to be proud of (unless he keeps his words that he promised later).

The praying part... I don't believe in people are bad, it's the situations. A very bad situation can turns a person to do something that might kill him inside for the rest of his life. You will see him alive but inside they are crying to restore their lost faith for their own. These unfortunate people deserves a chance, after all they are human. Besides if we start wishing bad or start harming the bad one for their bad acts then they never get a chance to become a better person. And you are not a fool at all, you will know when you have to stop giving them chances. There are some people who will never change their long practice.


For how many months does it show in the trust page that the email/password has been changed?
May be a mod can enlighten us.

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Don't worry, money will come and go, and you'll rightfully get what you deserve(directly or indirectly).
Yes mate, money is just a tool for living. We are bigger than anything else. I hope yishak do give himself a chance to become a better one.


Yishak was trying to give OP the account after the scam was revealed. Maybe they changed the password beforehand, if they use the password for other logins.

Or changed it after OP didn't take the account

@LoyceV, I noticed it when he gave me his credentials later. My guess was same like Steamtyme, he changed his regular password (perhaps email too) then gave me the temp pass, I denied to access his account then he changed his password again.

I am not sure which time is default to your PC, mine is forum time as default.
The changed time is: July 30, 2018, 09:40:13 PM - yishak - password changed
He sent me the message: July 30, 2018 @09:41:16 PM

If this is the case then I wonder did he not change the password again after I denied?  Roll Eyes


@Loyce, he probably changed it to not include his name/reveal his actual email address to avoid spam.
Exactly but it's just a guess though.

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August 03, 2018, 09:33:37 AM
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For how many months does it show in the trust page that the email/password has been changed?
May be a mod can enlighten us.

It's a month. I just checked the seclog and the record at the bottom is July 4th.
All it takes is scrolling to the bottom Smiley.

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August 03, 2018, 09:36:55 AM
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All it takes is scrolling to the bottom Smiley.
LOL yes, indeed.
It's another of those things when you(me) ignore the basics  Grin

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August 03, 2018, 07:39:49 PM
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For how many months does it show in the trust page that the email/password has been changed?
May be a mod can enlighten us.

It's a month. I just checked the seclog and the record at the bottom is July 4th.
All it takes is scrolling to the bottom Smiley.

Maybe a stupid question, but what's the seclog and where can I access it?

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August 03, 2018, 07:46:52 PM
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Maybe a stupid question, but what's the seclog and where can I access it?
It's completely ok  Smiley
seclog is security log for the forum. You can access it here: https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php

Basically on there you will be able to see recent password change, email change, if a person logged in after long period of time etc etc. In short everything related to account security of accounts.

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August 03, 2018, 07:49:47 PM
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Maybe a stupid question, but what's the seclog and where can I access it?

The seclog is at: bitcointalk.org/seclog.php
In addition to what mdayonliner said, there is also a modlog that I assume you're unfamiliar with but it might be useful for you as a resource to see when users are banned, posts are deleted, etc at bitcointalk.org/modlog.php.

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August 03, 2018, 07:56:37 PM
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Ahhhh nice. This appeases the nerd in me; thanks for the links. Both bookmarked. Now every time there's a user that says shit like "I don't know why I was banned; I didn't do anything wrong", I can do my internet sleuthing to try and find the reason why.

Any other less known logs I can bookmark?

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August 03, 2018, 09:08:15 PM
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Ahhhh nice. This appeases the nerd in me; thanks for the links. Both bookmarked. Now every time there's a user that says shit like "I don't know why I was banned; I didn't do anything wrong", I can do my internet sleuthing to try and find the reason why.

Any other less known logs I can bookmark?

Other than the merit ones and the main stats page: bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats and bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust then I don't think there is anything else.

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August 07, 2018, 01:14:55 AM
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It sucks. I've lost crypto to scammers as well.

Just be careful of any tokens. Anyone can make a token and anyone can make a look-alike token as well. All token platforms are vulnerable for that.
Unverified bitcoin and ethereum (and other) tokens were / are a known common scam on the waves platform.  Waves addressed the problem by creating a default spam token filter.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1927689.msg39188521#msg39188521
https://nxtforum.org/general-discussion/scam-alert/

If you look at just the BNB (Binance token) on Ethereum - you'll see all the fake tokens that have been created with the same name.
https://etherscan.io/tokens?q=bnb



There are even forks of known coins (some of them accidental). Just be careful of people wanting to transfer coins or tokens "on the exchange".
Yobit for example has some coins listed that you cannot withdraw to another exchange. (I haven't checked on there recently)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1862511.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3228022.20

More info:
https://cryptovest.com/education/how-to-spot-a-fake-token-or-asset/

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