Where is User Protrader? Where is my Bitcoin?

[claudesdad]

Does anybody know of or have contact with user "Protrader"??

He started a thread to sell Bitcoin - got a number of responses - and communicated for a while - took payment from me for some coin - and has stopped communicating now that his delivery date of February 20th has passed.

I've not received my paid-for coin.

I've PM'ed him,  responded to his thread - and gotten nothing.

The trend is not good - if I don't hear from him shortly Paypal is getting contacted to reverse the charges.  Which may screw him over if he is legitimate.

Besides the fact I'm not receiving what I paid for - I had a purchase lined up that the coin was going to be used for - so now that is in jeopardy too.

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[p-webcorp]

Better earlier send the disput to PayPal.

[Tomatocage]

Didn't see this one coming

[claudesdad]

Didn't see this one coming

Yeah - probably should have seen it coming , but it seemed legitimate.  I've seen a few other sellers here that just screamed scam.

The Paypal dispute has been filed.  I'll have to wait to see what happens there.

One of the coins I was purchasing from him was for a friend who is a NSA certified hacker (he's on the watchlists and listed on their site).

He's not happy.  Neither am I.

But since you're obviously a veteran member here - what is the best way - or a good way - to buy Bitcoin?  I've setup a Coinbase
account - but they're taking forever.  I had a purchase I wanted to make with these coins and didn't want to wait as long as Coinbase
was going to take to get me coins.

[RodeoX]

Scammers are scum. 
Unfortunately, so is PayPal. I doubt they will be much help, they may even suspend your account. All kinds of crazy stuff happens with PayPal.

[leopard2]

Scammers are scum. 
Unfortunately, so is PayPal. I doubt they will be much help, they may even suspend your account. All kinds of crazy stuff happens with PayPal.

100% agreed. If Paypal weren't scammers, they could even be helpful in doing trusted USD transactions.  Imagine how fruitful a Paypal based BTC escrow service could be to the community.

[troy112]

Paypal has recently came down hard on the bitcoin associated transactions, so watch out. And you could us localbitcoin or other sites that allow you to deal in cash or escrow for you. You could buy locally with them.

[claudesdad]

Paypal has recently came down hard on the bitcoin associated transactions, so watch out. And you could us localbitcoin or other sites that allow you to deal in cash or escrow for you. You could buy locally with them.

I signed up for Coinbase - and was going to buy from them, but they were going to take forever and a day to get me the coins. I had a transaction for goods that the user wanted to conduct in Bitcoin and this guy (Protrader) was promising to deliver sooner rather than later.

Now I've beened screwed out of a good amount of $$ - and probably lost the opportunity to purchase the item.

The name on the PayPal account was Nishant Thapa.   Protrader or Nishant or whomever he is - I hope he's happy that he got a bunch of money.  Because he just paid me to abuse him for an awfully long time.

[riekinho]

  Didn't see this one coming   

I have to say that I did.
He contacted me on PM and I turned him down because it sounded extremly fishy.

Not sure wheter to be happy about it or ashamed as I was scammed before for thousands of dollars. Guess the education is paying off.

[Localbtcbuyer]

Try localbitcoins.com

They have escrow, its pretty safe if you use your brain

[claudesdad]

Try localbitcoins.com

They have escrow, its pretty safe if you use your brain

I signed up for Coinbase - but had a deal I was looking to close and they were not going to deliver coins for more than a week.

I looked at Localbitcoins.com - and pretty much all the deals there seemed like crazy prices.

The thread Protrader started seemed to already have a decent amount of activity - including people who looked to have been active here for some time.  I guess I should have been more suspicious - and I definitely will be the next time.

I have to say though - this site is a little strange.  After posting in the original thread I have gotten NO response whatsoever from any of the other people who posted there  indicating they had a problem.  So that alone makes me suspicious that the other posts may have been part of the scam.  User Protrader however magically gets a minus six on his Trust rating - but nobody is owning up to doing it.

Plus I just looked - and Protrader is still a user here and shows last activity as being just this morning.

Does this place not police it's members at all?  I spend time on a number of sites - and haven't run across a single reputable one that doesn't come down on members who pulled the kind of stuff Protrader has.

Protrader:  if you read this - either send me the coins I paid for - or refund my money.  Either one of those things makes me go away.  Choosing any of the other ones make me keep pursuing this thru whatever avenues I can find.

[koshgel]

He has always been a shady poster. Always offering deals but never seen him make a successful transaction.


You should probably post this in Scam Accusations.

[clubminer]

Hi, Protrader make new userID for this thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=486129.0

[Protradertips]

that is not me. im not afflated with protrader. stop spreading false info.

[CrashX]

Better earlier send the disput to PayPal.

DO NOT MEANTION THAT IT WAS BITCOIN ... MEANTION THAT IT WAS A COMPUTER MINING OR ANY OTHER THING THAT IS PHYSICAL.

[clubminer]

that is not me. im not afflated with protrader. stop spreading false info.

Don't lie, dude !!! 
After protrader scammed, you just make new ID again.

[faiza1990]

Better earlier send the disput to PayPal.

DO NOT MEANTION THAT IT WAS BITCOIN ... MEANTION THAT IT WAS A COMPUTER MINING OR ANY OTHER THING THAT IS PHYSICAL.

its good tip because if you are going in with bitcoin then they are not going to help you any more

[Protrader]

Hello members,

I am not a scammer,

Paypal ripped me for bitcoin trading they placed a hold on my account as well as my money $16500, and i also not able to withdraw,send,refund any amount.. i tried everything to solve this problem but at the end they decided to suspend my account for lifelong..
I didn't stole anyones money all dispute & chargebacks already refunded through paypal,if i want to scam i definitely fought against disputes/chargebacks but i didn't, because that was the only option left to refund money.

I AM EXTREMELY SORRY FOR YOUR TIME LOSE BUT I AM NOT A SCAMMER !!

hope you all understand my situation and remove my negative trust.

[claudesdad]

Hello members,

I am not a scammer,

Paypal ripped me for bitcoin trading they placed a hold on my account as well as my money $16500, and i also not able to withdraw,send,refund any amount.. i tried everything to solve this problem but at the end they decided to suspend my account for lifelong..
I didn't stole anyones money all dispute & chargebacks already refunded through paypal,if i want to scam i definitely fought against disputes/chargebacks but i didn't, because that was the only option left to refund money.

I AM EXTREMELY SORRY FOR YOUR TIME LOSE BUT I AM NOT A SCAMMER !!

hope you all understand my situation and remove my negative trust.

I will remove any negative comments when you send me the Bitcoin I paid for - or my money back.

Here's the facts of the matter:

You started a thread where you offered up Bitcoin. 

When I responded and said I was interested you sent me an invoice and sent you money for 1.5 Bitcoin

You said the Bitcoin would be available on or around February 20th.

February 20th came and went - both in your time zone and in mine.

February 21st came and went - both in your time zone and in mine.

I posted messages in your original thread and sent you PM's and sent emails to the address that was listed on the PayPal account.

I got NO RESPONSE AT ALL.  From ANY of the messages I posted or PM's and emails I sent.

So on Feb 21st - the Paypal case was filed.

And yet I still heard nothing from user Protrader.

February 22, 23, 24, 25, 26.......  etc, came and went.....

And still -NOTHING happened.  I got no Bitcoin sent to me, and I got no money back.


So now user Protrader sends me a PM and and deletes my posts - and complains that his Paypal account is suspended.

I'm not feeling it Protrader. You could have fixed this by simply replying - and sending me my money back - or (as I've said multiple times) - sending me the Bitcoin I paid for.

If you are dealing with a scumbag - and he screwed you - that's not my problem.  My problem is the money I sent you.


The fact that other people have neg repped  you and that other people posted in  your original thread indicating that you did the SAME THING TO THEM - was more than enough evidence for me to consider you a scammer.

Here's a piece of advice:  If you don't want people to consider you a scammer - stop acting like one.

Get me my Bitcoin - or send me my goddam money back.

[SlidingHorn]

Hello members,

I am not a scammer,

Paypal ripped me for bitcoin trading they placed a hold on my account as well as my money $16500, and i also not able to withdraw,send,refund any amount.. i tried everything to solve this problem but at the end they decided to suspend my account for lifelong..
I didn't stole anyones money all dispute & chargebacks already refunded through paypal,if i want to scam i definitely fought against disputes/chargebacks but i didn't, because that was the only option left to refund money.

I AM EXTREMELY SORRY FOR YOUR TIME LOSE BUT I AM NOT A SCAMMER !!

hope you all understand my situation and remove my negative trust.

I will remove any negative comments when you send me the Bitcoin I paid for - or my money back.

Here's the facts of the matter:

You started a thread where you offered up Bitcoin. 

When I responded and said I was interested you sent me an invoice and sent you money for 1.5 Bitcoin

Could you please post a link to the thread, some form of proof of payment (e.g. screenshot of the payment), etc. so we can verify all this? 

Thanks