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February 17, 2014, 08:11:04 AM
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My 2500ltc is missing, btc-e support do not answer me for 10 days. Then I find a support from skype. The support ask me to deposit 10 btc to one btc address, otherwise they will hold my 2500ltc and never return it to me.

He looks like a real support, because I have the power to ban my account. Below is some of the talk between us. Anyone met this situation?


[14:11:33] Cong Pang: yere
[14:11:35] Cong Pang: yes
[14:11:52] Cong Pang:  I want to talk to you. I withdrawed ltc to the same address two times, the first I withdrawed 2500 ltc, the second is I000 ltc, I received the 1000 ltc. But I never received the first 2500 ltc. I created a ticket,10 days already.I never got an answer. My Ticket ID: IZP-663-24097
[14:14:15] Cong Pang: My account is nkpangcong@gmail.com
[14:14:26] Cong Pang: I already post this problem on bitcointalk
[14:14:43] Cong Pang: and some other bitcoin forum
[14:15:14] Cong Pang: It has been 10 days!!!! My 2500 ltc are missing and I never get a reply
[14:53:15] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Hi
[14:53:19] Cong Pang: hi
[14:53:27] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Yes i see your problem.
[14:53:37] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Your account is flaged for suspicious activity.
[14:53:51] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Can you verify you are the original owner of the account ?
[14:54:13] Cong Pang: how to verify
[14:54:14] Cong Pang: ?
[14:54:18] Cong Pang: Yes I can
[14:54:31] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Screenshot of purse deposit to your btc-e account.
[14:55:19] Cong Pang: I deposit many times
[14:55:27] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: 119.56.113.133 is your ip you used to log in ?
[14:55:35] Cong Pang: let me have a check
[14:55:40] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: [2:47] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com:

<<< ip: 119.56.113.133 / 137.132.3.10
[14:55:44] Cong Pang: I'm in National University of SIngapore
[14:55:47] Cong Pang: SIngapore
[14:55:57] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: This ip i see logging on your account.
[14:56:24] Cong Pang: Yeah, it is mine
[14:56:31] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: username : nkpangcong@gmtial.com
[14:56:33] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: ticket: #IZP-663-24097
[14:56:36] Cong Pang: yes
[14:56:37] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: ip 119.56.113.133 / 137.132.3.10
[14:56:47] Cong Pang: yes the ip is mine
[14:56:51] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Okay
[14:57:03] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: You must deposit coins to our wallet for the system verify
[14:57:09] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: It is automatized system.
[14:57:14] Cong Pang: sure
[14:57:23] Cong Pang: how many to deposit?
[14:57:30] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Can you verify your last btc-e deposit ?
[14:57:38] Cong Pang: yes
[14:57:45] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Okay,i am waiting.
[14:58:06] Cong Pang: https://blockchain.info/zh-cn/address/1DT7X9uA3YyM3MgowJQPu8wSpbDVxejDYK
[14:58:22] Cong Pang: I deposit 26 btc to btc-e
[14:58:35] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: 1DT7X9uA3YyM3MgowJQPu8wSpbDVxejDYK ?
[14:58:49] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: It is cold wallet.
[14:58:54] Cong Pang: Yeah, it's mine
[14:59:28] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: 10btc deposit should be fine to fix the " Addressing Transaction Malleability "
[14:59:32] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: I hope you know about the problem.
[14:59:37] Cong Pang: meanwhile, I withdrawed 1000ltc
[14:59:37] Cong Pang: http://block-explorer.com/address/LUVpUmu1iV9K9RLcnitKETsd1P5JMQ9W12
[14:59:45] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Yes i see history on account.
[15:00:20] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: You need to deposit to our btc wallet
[15:00:32] Cong Pang: your btc wallet?
[15:00:38] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: OUR
[15:00:42] Cong Pang: which wallet?
[15:01:01] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: https://i.imgur.com/MpLaiJJ.png
[15:01:05] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: 1JgRuWoJqCzFp7NUvfjrEBVdAmzpxKFTFG
[15:01:53] Cong Pang: well I do not see this address on my btc-e account
[15:01:55] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: We had problem with "Addressing Transaction Malleability"
[15:02:04] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: It is not your btc-e wallet,it is OUR btc-e wallet.
[15:02:26] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: You must deposit from SAME adress you used to deposit to btc-e as before.
[15:02:33] Cong Pang: Are you real btc-e support?
[15:02:47] Cong Pang: Your request is strange
[15:02:55] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Yes,you are talkin with Vladimir from support team.With the above information i gaved you it is obvious who i am.
[15:03:01] Cong Pang: You are me to deposit a new adress!!!!!
[15:03:18] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: That's right it is OUR wallet,it must be done for authorizatin and verification.
[15:03:40] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: You don't give this coins for free.After the automatized system have complete the checks,it refunds the coins to the original wallet it was send from.
[15:03:48] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: If you don't understand it,i can write it in Russian.
[15:04:09] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: It is bug from  "Addressing Transaction Malleability" which we need to fix.
[15:04:15] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: We have many problems with withdraws and deposits.
[15:04:34] Cong Pang: OK, let me create a ticket first to write what you need me to do, if the support really ask me to follow your instruction, I will deposit to the address you told me
[15:05:00] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: I am the support and you can listen my instructions before i stop respond you.
[15:05:11] Cong Pang: OK, can you answer my ticket?
[15:05:18] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: You can obvious search me by email to see who i am. Search in skype support@btc-e.com
[15:05:29] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: If someone already handle your support ticket,only he can resolve it.
[15:05:34] Cong Pang: make a simple answer, then I can believe you
[15:05:43] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: I am here to handle your problem if you wish to fix it.
[15:05:52] Cong Pang: got, so I make a new ticket now
[15:06:07] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: You don't need new tickets.
[15:06:16] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: дeлaть y кoгдa-либo пoнять, чтo я имeю в видy?
[15:06:20] Cong Pang: I'm afaid you are cheating
[15:06:33] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Я нe oбмaн, я пытaюcь пoмoчь вaм peшить пpoблeмy
[15:06:42] Cong Pang: since you ask me to diposit to a new address but not my btc-e address
[15:06:51] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: That's right and i already explain you why.
[15:07:25] Cong Pang: I'm a software engineer, I   the problem "Addressing Transaction Malleability
[15:07:30] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: I can suspend or ban your account to prove who i am if you like
[15:07:45] Cong Pang: I definetely know how the problem work
[15:07:56] Cong Pang: there is no need to diposit to a new address
[15:08:18] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Yes it is,if you are even a little bit familiar with our exchange.
[15:08:26] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: I see you have deposit a lot LTC to your account.
[15:09:06] Cong Pang: OK, I have made a screenshot of our talk, I now post it on bitcoin talk
[15:09:24] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Sure,your deposit will not go thru before you do what i said
[15:09:28] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: No matter where and what you post
[15:09:32] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: I am here to help you
[15:09:37] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: If u don't want my help its okay
[15:10:18] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: I can suspend your account not to verify who i am
[15:10:40] Cong Pang: I do not believe you even if you can suspend my account
[15:10:51] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Okay,i will show you now Smiley
[15:15:41] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Username?
[15:16:06] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: ah i see pangcong
[15:20:45] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: I see you are trying to withdraw coins
[15:20:51] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: I will lock your account right now Smiley
[15:25:16] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Account locked.
[15:26:21] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: I hope now you can see who i am.
[15:26:35] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Can you verify you are the original owner of the account ?
[15:26:36] Cong Pang: Yes, I see. But I completely do not believe you now
[15:26:50] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Many hackers try to steal accounts.
[15:26:59] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: In order to secure the original owner,we must suspend account.
[15:27:25] Cong Pang: But you ask me to deposit bitcoin to an  address which do not belong ot me
[15:27:43] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: You never show me proof you are the original owner of the account.
[15:27:53] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: I am trying to verify who is the original owner,because many hackers try to steal accounts you know.
[15:28:06] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Where is the screenshot with proof with ur deposit to your btc-e account ?
[15:28:30] Cong Pang: what kind of screeshot?
[15:28:31] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: I am not able to take deposit coins from you,before you verify you are the original owner of the account.
[15:28:42] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: screen shot from wallet to your btc-e account
[15:28:50] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: only the original owner can show proof of deposit to his btc-e account.
[15:29:06] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: you can add me to ur contact list
[15:29:15] Cong Pang: is it the blockchain link?
[15:29:19] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Hi Cong Pang, I'd like to add you as a contact. btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com
[15:29:23] *** Cong Pang 已与btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com分享联系人信息。 ***
[15:29:27] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: You must show me screenshot
[15:29:37] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: from wallet to your btc-e account
[15:29:45] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: transaction details
[15:29:56] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: to match and confirm your wallet was deposited coins to YOUR btc-e acount.
[15:30:06] Cong Pang: wait
[15:31:07] Cong Pang: I send from another btc trading platform
[15:31:16 | 已编辑 15:31:24] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: yes u can screen the withdraw from there to ur btc-e
[15:31:26] Cong Pang: ok
[15:31:34] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: upload the image to imgur.com
[15:31:37] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: or send it here
[15:31:43] *** Cong Pang 发送 IMG_17022014_153143.png IMG_17022014_153143.png ***
[15:32:30] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: I don't see transaction details.
[15:32:46] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: and from which exchange this is coming from.
[15:32:55] Cong Pang: okcoin
[15:33:22] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: ok screen the transaction details. you need to show me the last 3 deposits
[15:33:34] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: - your username and email, which are now pointed in your profile (the old email);
- your transaction history (at least the last three (3) transactions );
- in what way replenished;
- the history of IP entries ;
[15:33:43] *** Cong Pang 发送 IMG_17022014_153343.png IMG_17022014_153343.png ***
[15:33:58] Cong Pang: I show you the last 10 deposits
[15:34:57] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: transaction details i need
[15:35:04] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: [15:33] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com:

<<< - in what way replenished;
- the history of IP entries ;
[15:35:21] Cong Pang: https://blockchain.info/zh-cn/address/1DT7X9uA3YyM3MgowJQPu8wSpbDVxejDYK
[15:36:37] Cong Pang: What you do really scared me, but fortunately, I succeed to withdraw my last coins from btc-e
[15:36:58] Cong Pang: The only left is my 2500ltc withdrawed 10 days ago
[15:37:29] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: I told you need to deposit coins to our BTC-e wallet
[15:37:41] Cong Pang: I can withdraw coins. That's not enough?Huh
[15:38:07] Cong Pang: It proved I have the right google password
[15:38:26] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Cong,i am trying to help you here,i hope you understand our point.
[15:39:00] Cong Pang: I know, but you ask me to deposit coins to your  BTC-e wallet but not mine, it scares me again
[15:39:34] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: It is btc-e support team deposit wallet
[15:39:35] Cong Pang: I think no one would do it, your supporting procedure is totally wrongly designed
[15:39:55] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Our support procedure is not wrongly designed.
[15:39:59] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: It is securing our custumers and ourself
[15:40:01] Cong Pang: How can you prove it is the btc-e support team deposit wallet
[15:40:16] Cong Pang: but not a personaly wallet
[15:41:09] Cong Pang: can you gain the trust from your customer
[15:41:13] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: I already show you who i am.I verified the information for your account,your ip,your deposits
[15:41:18] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: And i gaved you screenshot for the wallet
[15:41:27] Cong Pang: And that's what I'm scared
[15:41:51] Cong Pang: you have the power to ban someone, if you are a cheater, what would happen
[15:42:05] Cong Pang: It proved btc-e is not a secure website
[15:42:27] Cong Pang: And you can not prove the wallet is btc-e support team wallet
[15:42:36] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: My name is Vladimir and i am from support team.I believe i already show.
[15:42:47] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: I prove this is the wallet i will receive your coins
[15:43:11] Cong Pang: OK, How many coins do you want
[15:43:33] Cong Pang: then you can solve my problem
[15:43:46] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: I think you don't understand.
[15:43:52] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: We don't take your coins for ourself.
[15:44:03] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: This coins will be refunded by the end of the verification and authorization process.
[15:44:10] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: To the same wallet it was coming from.
[15:44:28] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: [14:59] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com:

<<< 10btc deposit should be fine
[15:45:04] Cong Pang: It means, I must risk 10 btc
[15:45:13] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: I don't see any risk but if you are saying so.
[15:46:11] Cong Pang: I see, I'll ask on bitcointalk first. If someone other tell me it is right, I'll send to you
[15:46:29] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: How can someone else not part from our team can tell you what to do with our account or not ? Cheesy
[15:46:33] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: You are funny
[15:47:29] Cong Pang: Not funny, I'm not a fool
[15:47:41] Cong Pang: Besides, I have withdrawed all my coins
[15:47:55] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: We can kindly hold your 2500ltc if you like
[15:47:59] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: With your account.
[15:48:01] Cong Pang: At leat I know one thing, btc-e is not so secure
[15:48:09] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Our website is secure
[15:48:14] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: You just don't like to assist me
[15:48:17] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: And complete and fix the problem.
[15:48:26] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: If u kindly follow my steps,everything will end in less than 10 mins
[15:48:35] Cong Pang: let other people comment is on bitcointalk
[15:48:51] Cong Pang: I dare not
[15:49:08] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Okay then
[15:49:11] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: If u don't like to assist me.
[15:49:16] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: I will hold the coins with your account.
[15:52:00] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Okay,we send you auth code
[15:52:08 | 已编辑 15:52:09] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Can you verify ?
[15:52:17] Cong Pang: how
[15:52:24] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: Did u receive the code ?
[15:52:36] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: 2FA
[15:52:40] Cong Pang: certainly
[15:53:04] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: yes or no ?
[15:53:11] Cong Pang: I'm write on bitcointalk, could you please wait 5 minutes
[15:53:11] btc-e.support hdbtce.kayako.com: if you are hacker believe me,you can't trick me
[15:53:19] Cong Pang: Let me post it furst
[15:53:22] Cong Pang: first
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February 17, 2014, 08:14:05 AM
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Did you verify as original owner ? I mean they sometimes ask for purse screenshot and deposit from same wallet which you used to funds ur btc-e account to verify you as owner of the account.

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Yes, veritied!

But the support continue to ask me to deposit 10 btc to an address. I'm wondering if he is a real support. “The support” can ban my account, it look that he is a real support. But why his request is so strange?
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February 17, 2014, 08:21:43 AM
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Not sure why they are requesting that kind of amount as deposit,but they can require somekind of deposit from the wallet you used to fund ur btc-e account to verify you are the original owner

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February 17, 2014, 08:38:23 AM
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This thread is already covering this issue.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469705.0
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Now my account is banned, the support said his name is Vladimir, the Main support of btc-e
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February 17, 2014, 08:43:03 AM
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Now my account is banned, the support said his name is Vladimir, the Main support of btc-e
Well,obviously if someone banned your account,it may be only from the btc-e staff.
You should talk with them to fix your problem.
I believe no one else than them have that access to ban accounts.

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Live longer, with less stress: please avoid BFL, Hashfast, Mt.Gox, BTC-E and Cryptsy  Cheesy

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February 17, 2014, 09:15:08 AM
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This thread is already covering this issue.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469705.0

Fake Skype account, thanks for the link.  Smiley



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BTC-E is OK, did you read the link quoted above?
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February 17, 2014, 09:21:38 AM
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This thread is already covering this issue.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469705.0

Fake Skype account, thanks for the link.  Smiley



Live longer, with less stress: please avoid BFL, Hashfast, Mt.Gox, BTC-E and Cryptsy  Cheesy

BTC-E is OK, did you read the link quoted above?
also, Cryptsy has issues but they are legit.

It scares me, the support is fake, however, he has the power to ban the user in btc-e
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February 17, 2014, 09:25:58 AM
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Not sure how a fake can ban accounts on btc-e but if you say so....

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February 17, 2014, 09:34:03 AM
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This thread is already covering this issue.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469705.0

Fake Skype account, thanks for the link.  Smiley



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BTC-E is OK, did you read the link quoted above?
also, Cryptsy has issues but they are legit.

It scares me, the support is fake, however, he has the power to ban the user in btc-e

Well perhaps you gave him enough info in your initial conversation so that he could impersonate you and request to support to freeze your account?

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February 17, 2014, 09:43:02 AM
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well then how to reconize who is fake and who is real ? both of them will ask the same questions to verify who is the owner.
so bassicly you never know ?

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February 17, 2014, 10:18:46 AM
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It is a hacker. Besides, I learned from the hacker. I get to know how to ban an account quickly even if I'm not a real btc-e support!
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February 21, 2014, 02:03:42 PM
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This thread is already covering this issue.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=469705.0

Fake Skype account, thanks for the link.  Smiley



Live longer, with less stress: please avoid BFL, Hashfast, Mt.Gox, BTC-E and Cryptsy  Cheesy

BTC-E is OK, did you read the link quoted above?
also, Cryptsy has issues but they are legit.

It scares me, the support is fake, however, he has the power to ban the user in btc-e

Well perhaps you gave him enough info in your initial conversation so that he could impersonate you and request to support to freeze your account?

cheers,
kev
Yes, he did it like you said. I quickly applied to ban his email. Now my account is still banned. I can not login
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