jeremypwr Bitcasino.io and Sportsbet.io Extortion, Ponzi promoting, scammer

[pugman]

Alright WaffleMaster, stop spamming your images in Reputation, Scam Accusation, Gambling, Services, and Meta. You are cross-posting and you could at least get temp-banned for that, for all I know.

For the millionth time, you weren't scammed, nor were you extorted. Nowhere in the campaign thread were you guaranteed to get 960$ or get paid for all 8 weeks. Stop using half meanings here. I totally see Jeremypwr removed you, and that's totally acceptable. Go get yourself drunk and throw up,you'd feel better. All that shit crazy anger would get out of your head.

Like stedsm said, @Jerermypwr, don't ask users to delete their posts. They can make how much ever posts they want. Just count 8 of them.

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[WaffleMaster]

Alright WaffleMaster, stop spamming your images in Reputation, Scam Accusation, Gambling, Services, and Meta. You are cross-posting and you could at least get temp-banned for that, for all I know.

For the millionth time, you weren't scammed, nor were you extorted. Nowhere in the campaign thread were you guaranteed to get 960$ or get paid for all 8 weeks. Stop using half meanings here. I totally see Jeremypwr removed you, and that's totally acceptable. Go get yourself drunk and throw up,you'd feel better. All that shit crazy anger would get out of your head.

Like stedsm said, @Jerermypwr, don't ask users to delete their posts. They can make how much ever posts they want. Just count 8 of them.

The whole thread ting is total bullshit, and only applies to duplicate posts. They aren't duplicate, so there's no way a rule is being broken. Go check Meta for a full list of rules on the forum. Anyways, I guess it's not extortion to use threats or force to coerce somebody to doing something?

Now bounty managers are superman. They think they can do anything they want. But it should not be.

Even though it turns out waffle is in the right

[WaffleMaster]

Now bounty managers are superman. They think they can do anything they want. But it should not be.

Nobody is superman. The manager handled the situation terribly. When he made the mistake, after receiving the pm from Wafflemaster he should have just fixed it and moved on. Wafflemaster should have calmly messaged the user and waited for the manager to reply and fix the mistake.

Instead wafflemaster went crazy and made a million posts all over the bitcasino thread, sportsbet thread, campaigns thread, and reputation section. They both made threats towards each other via pm and acted like children.

I don't care what reasoning they feel they had, they were both wrong.

What I have learned for the whole situation:

Jeremypower did not act very professional as a campaign manager. Maybe he will learn from this issue and make himself better. Only time will tell. Instead of the pm war with Waffle he needs to look at Waffles complaint or any other users complaint he receives and see if the complaint is warranted. If it is, then fix it. If the complaint is incorrect, then message the user and explain why it is incorrect.



Wafflemaster is someone I would not consider hiring ever. He has shown that he is 1 of the users that feels he is entitled. If he doesn't get his way he will try to force his opinion on you. This is not the type of user that goes far in this forum. Even though it turns out waffle is in the right as far as the mistake on post counts, he still took it too far and somehow has this misconception he got screwed out of 500+ dollars.

I can understand tempers flaring for a few minutes but neither guy came to his senses really and decided to turn it into a circus sideshow event over the last 12 hours

A fair analysis. Acknowledging that it turns out that I was right, I DID give him time before the scam accusation but not before other posts, which was a mistake. And noting that the campaign manager was extremely unprofessional with his threats, blackmailing and all of that. Perhaps both parties were indeed misguided in their initial reaction, but to say this absolves him of his blackmailing and that he will simply "learn" not to commit criminal activity like extortion is pretty ridiculous. Acknowledging the fact that he didn't fix his mistake as well. So really, anybody reading this can see that yes I may have overreacted initially by opening some posts... big deal? This man blackmailed, extorted, punished me in error. Then he offered to fix it, then broke that agreement. Honestly it is quite disgraceful, and now everybody's reputation is ruined, including the companies who hired him as an employee. THIS MAN IS LITERALLY PAID TO MANAGE A CAMPAIGN, something which he did incorrectly, then started extorting funds that were agreed to to try and censor a participant he kicked out in error and gave reduced pay to. You really going to ignore that?

[jeremypwr]

Alright WaffleMaster, stop spamming your images in Reputation, Scam Accusation, Gambling, Services, and Meta. You are cross-posting and you could at least get temp-banned for that, for all I know.

For the millionth time, you weren't scammed, nor were you extorted. Nowhere in the campaign thread were you guaranteed to get 960$ or get paid for all 8 weeks. Stop using half meanings here. I totally see Jeremypwr removed you, and that's totally acceptable. Go get yourself drunk and throw up,you'd feel better. All that shit crazy anger would get out of your head.

Like stedsm said, @Jerermypwr, don't ask users to delete their posts. They can make how much ever posts they want. Just count 8 of them.

I don't see this self-entitled lunatic giving up anytime soon. 

He will prob continue to post the same large images and disrupt threads of business.

I've already PMed the mods; hoping something is done here.

His spamming and multiple thread starting has to be against some rules here.

He was paid, then dropped.

Case closed.

[WaffleMaster]

Alright WaffleMaster, stop spamming your images in Reputation, Scam Accusation, Gambling, Services, and Meta. You are cross-posting and you could at least get temp-banned for that, for all I know.

For the millionth time, you weren't scammed, nor were you extorted. Nowhere in the campaign thread were you guaranteed to get 960$ or get paid for all 8 weeks. Stop using half meanings here. I totally see Jeremypwr removed you, and that's totally acceptable. Go get yourself drunk and throw up,you'd feel better. All that shit crazy anger would get out of your head.

Like stedsm said, @Jerermypwr, don't ask users to delete their posts. They can make how much ever posts they want. Just count 8 of them.

I don't see this self-entitled lunatic giving up anytime soon.  

He will prob continue to post the same large images and disrupt threads of business.

I've already PMed the mods; hoping something is done here.

His spamming and multiple thread starting has to be against some rules here.

He was paid, then dropped.

Case closed.

1) I'm not entitled, because if you agree to do something and don't do it, that is you defaulting on an agreement. You didn't make things go back to normal like was agreed. That's not me being entitled, that's you scamming.
2) I'm not spamming, I'm replying to people. If you have a problem with somebody replying to people in relevant context and using pictures, that sounds like a personal issue.
3) You dropped me before payment because of your error and being a bad campaign manager. You then said you would make things normal and fix it, but you didn't. Obviously things are not back to normal like you agreed to.
4) Case still open, simply because you state it's over doesn't mean it's over. There still are allegations of your blackmailing which is documented and also scamming out of the agreement you said yes to.

[o_e_l_e_o]

You made 75 posts about this across 8 threads in 5 boards in under 8 hours yesterday. If that isn't spamming, I don't know what is.

You were paid for the work you did. The end. You keep going on and on about "he agreed this" and "he agreed that" - well, here is what you agreed to:

I can remove you from the Campaign at any time, for whatever reason

[WaffleMaster]

You made 75 posts about this across 8 threads in 5 boards in under 8 hours yesterday. If that isn't spamming, I don't know what is.

You were paid for the work you did. The end. You keep going on and on about "he agreed this" and "he agreed that" - well, here is what you agreed to:

I can remove you from the Campaign at any time, for whatever reason

Oh hey, a sportbet shill coming in here to try and save face for the extortion. High activity is not spamming. Go ahead and read some of those posts and see if they're duplicates. Did you know that the #5 player on the leaderboard was just kicked out for no reason?

On the topic of agreeing to things, yes that was part of the rules. Thing is, I was kicked out and I was only mentioning the error to the manager (which is god aweful, anybody hiring him past these campaigns is seriously twisted). I did offer that we delete things and go back to normal after everything was fixed, and he agreed. So now there are 2 agreements, one after the other. The agreement after the original agreement stands up stronger, as you can obviously guess. It was an amendment basically.

Okay. Now we can see another scammy actions taken up by sportsbet. Now i have been told that i am not eligible for the price boost leaderboard promo. I have not been told any reason. I have just been excluded and the chat gives me no explaination. I am ready to provide my kyc for verification and I am sure that I have not violated any terms. I was on the top 5 on the overall leaderboard and now just for no reason I have been excluded from the promo.
I hope this can be resolved. Though this action taken up by the site sucks.

Also they still show me in the leaderboard but they dont allow me to see the leaderboard when i am logged in.

Is it just being done to sort me out because yesterday I asked you some questions about your pointing system? I am not able to see the leaderboard since then.

Is this action just being taken because I had some questions yesterday and for some reason you flagged me for that?

But please continue to defend the person who said this to a participant of their campaign, after THE MANAGER made an error, agreed to make it right and return to normal.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Oh hey, a sportbet shill coming in here to try and save face for the extortion. High activity is not spamming. Go ahead and read some of those posts and see if they're duplicates.

And yet, my signature does not make what I say any less true. Your posts are not exact duplicates, but they are all ultimately saying the exact same things. You've used the same picture of your PMs in about 40 posts. That's spamming.

The agreement after the original agreement stands up stronger, as you can obviously guess. It was an amendment basically.

In your opinion, which is obviously not shared by most others.

[WaffleMaster]

Oh hey, a sportbet shill coming in here to try and save face for the extortion. High activity is not spamming. Go ahead and read some of those posts and see if they're duplicates.

And yet, my signature does not make what I say any less true. Your posts are not exact duplicates, but they are all ultimately saying the exact same things. You've used the same picture of your PMs in about 40 posts. That's spamming.

The agreement after the original agreement stands up stronger, as you can obviously guess. It was an amendment basically.

In your opinion, which is obviously not shared by most others.

You're right, your signature doesn't make it less true. It was never true to begin with, so something false can't be made more false. Actually, it's not an opinion, because common law has amendments change the original law all the time. If you think the campaign manager did nothing wrong in threatening and extorting agreed to payment to force an action by somebody, that's your morally deprived opinion. You can have it and we can discuss it. But the fact is that extortion is actually illegal.

If I was your boss, let's say roofing, and we had a 2 month project that we were working on and one day I think you showed up late because my watch was an hour ahead, and I fired you, is that ok? Is it then ok to say that if you say anything, I'll withhold all payment for previous work you've done?

[Stedsm]

And yet, my signature does not make what I say any less true. Your posts are not exact duplicates, but they are all ultimately saying the exact same things. You've used the same picture of your PMs in about 40 posts. That's spamming.

Feeling really sorry to say this but now, I've come to a conclusion here that an innocent user @WaffleMaster himself is trying to "extort" for a small amount of money here by giving mental torture to the whole forum by making the same accusations again and again, even after things trying to settle down from the other party's (manager) end. To the best of my knowledge, people shouldn't be here if their least intention is just to make money through the forum. Either we get paid or not, but we post; we post for the sake of our passion because we love to do it, to share our opinions here as we know they're going to be heard. Seeing your history after making this scam accusation thread, I've been watching you and can say that you've not posted anything good since then and are just trying to worsen up things for both of you by carrying away this discussion ahead. Why are you bothering too much just for those 7 posts (and even if you're right according to yahoo, I'd still ask you what makes you think that you were to be remaining in that campaign till its end when such ^agreements^ that you're talking about, were literally not made)? Where can you prove here that you're entirely entitled for that position for the whole campaign and that you were not going to be removed in either ways? And if you're not entitled to it, then I'm sorry but your claims about your ^potential^ earnings have just come out of thin air and nothing. That's my judgment.

[WaffleMaster]

And yet, my signature does not make what I say any less true. Your posts are not exact duplicates, but they are all ultimately saying the exact same things. You've used the same picture of your PMs in about 40 posts. That's spamming.

Feeling really sorry to say this but now, I've come to a conclusion here that an innocent user @WaffleMaster himself is trying to "extort" for a small amount of money here by giving mental torture to the whole forum by making the same accusations again and again, even after things trying to settle down from the other party's (manager) end.

Always appreciate open thinking, thanks for stopping by again.
Well, first the definition of extortion is:"the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats."

So in no way am I demanding anything threatening anything, or forcing anything, in fact the opposite. I've stated multiple times, even in PMs before people even brought it up, that I could no longer participate even if he wanted a 2nd do-over because of the threats from the manager of withholding money (agreed to be paid before the threats) unless I did what he wanted when he wanted. I'm simply talking about and showing proof of things jeremy has done and said. The market can decide if they would like him to continue to be a manager after huge mistakes, threats, extortion etc. My guess is no way in hell would a company want such a controversial manager that can ruin their reputation.
'potential earnings' is in reference to when jeremy agreed things would go back to normal, meaning be in the campaign, and instead then broke that agreement as well, costing those potential earnings.

Real extortion, threatening somebody to do something or they won't get money:

[DarkThrones]

Holy fuck, anybody that isnt retarded can see that this campaign manager extorted u. literally wanted to censor u or else he wouldnt pay what he said, what u were owed. Why? Cus u posted about not being paid properly cus he is a piece of shit manager n couldnt count to 25 right? Holy fuck!!! how is this dude not banned for illegal activity. super anti bitcoin with his censorship too

[o_e_l_e_o]

If I was your boss, let's say roofing, and we had a 2 month project that we were working on and one day I think you showed up late because my watch was an hour ahead, and I fired you, is that ok? Is it then ok to say that if you say anything, I'll withhold all payment for previous work you've done?

No, that would not be ok, but jeremypwr admitted his mistake, apologised, and made amends by paying you for the work you had done. I will accept that he should not have told you to delete your posts, but those posts should never have been made in the first place.

A mature person would deal with this situation by PMing the following:

"Hey man. I think you've miscounted my posts for this week. Wondering if you could double check when you get a chance and let me know. I'm keen to stay a part of your campaign. Thanks."

Instead you spent half a day going on a spamming spree across multiple threads and boards. That kind of immature behaviour is enough to get you kicked from any campaign.

Additionally, your analogy is flawed because your agreement was not for 8 weeks of work. Being accepted in to a signature campaign has never been a guarantee that you would remain in it until the end.

[wxa7115]

Lets try a different angle here WaffleMaster.

You seem convinced that you were scammed and jeremypwr disagrees with that statement. The community is very fair, how many members have taken your side and agree with the fact that you were scammed from the earnings of the remaining 7 weeks of the campaign? Because I have read the threads you have open and I have yet to see one supporting that claim, maybe I missed it, but that should tell you something, you are in the wrong at that point, mistakes were made by jeremypwr, he has admitted as much, I think you also made some mistakes in the form you reacted, if you keep this up the members of the forum will be even more unsympathetic to your claims and you will only damage yourself.

To me this was just a big misunderstanding that has been blown out of proportion.

[bittraffic]

Lets try a different angle here WaffleMaster.

You seem convinced that you were scammed and jeremypwr disagrees with that statement. The community is very fair, how many members have taken your side and agree with the fact that you were scammed from the earnings of the remaining 7 weeks of the campaign? Because I have read the threads you have open and I have yet to see one supporting that claim, maybe I missed it, but that should tell you something, you are in the wrong at that point, mistakes were made by jeremypwr, he has admitted as much, I think you also made some mistakes in the form you reacted, if you keep this up the members of the forum will be even more unsympathetic to your claims and you will only damage yourself.

To me this was just a big misunderstanding that has been blown out of proportion.

I'm with WaffleMaster's side here. Just for the sake.
But cheer up WaffleMaster. Its not the end of the world for you. You already wasted two days of your life when you could have done something more meaningful than getting into a fight you may never win. There are hundred more campaigns out there, all they may be needing is you who can raise awareness for their project.

[jeremypwr]

Lets try a different angle here WaffleMaster.

You seem convinced that you were scammed and jeremypwr disagrees with that statement. The community is very fair, how many members have taken your side and agree with the fact that you were scammed from the earnings of the remaining 7 weeks of the campaign? Because I have read the threads you have open and I have yet to see one supporting that claim, maybe I missed it, but that should tell you something, you are in the wrong at that point, mistakes were made by jeremypwr, he has admitted as much, I think you also made some mistakes in the form you reacted, if you keep this up the members of the forum will be even more unsympathetic to your claims and you will only damage yourself.

To me this was just a big misunderstanding that has been blown out of proportion.

I'm with WaffleMaster's side here. Just for the sake.
But cheer up WaffleMaster. Its not the end of the world for you. You already wasted two days of your life when you could have done something more meaningful than getting into a fight you may never win. There are hundred more campaigns out there, all they may be needing is you who can raise awareness for their project.

So let me ask you this, since you seem to be the only person who sides with WaffleMaster:

Let's say, hypothetically, that none of this would have happened.

He makes 25 posts, I pay him, everything is fine.

Then, in 2 weeks, a more quality poster applies, and I accept them into my Campaign, therefore having to drop a current participant.

If I were to drop WaffleMaster, a Hero member, and add the new Legendary member, would WaffleMaster still be able to claim he is getting "scammed?"

Of course not; this is a weekly, part-time contracted postition; he's not an employee nor is he entitled to any work!

Let me repeat:  Signature Campaign participants are not guaranteed work and can be removed WHENEVER and for WHATEVER reason.  It's even stated on Page 1.

He's acting like this was a full-time job, and now he's owed unemployment or some form of compensation.

I'd be upset too if I were removed from an opportunity to make almost $1,000 for posting on an internet forum, but he is 100% in the wrong for thinking he's owed anything.

[pugman]

1) I'm not entitled, because if you agree to do something and don't do it, that is you defaulting on an agreement. You didn't make things go back to normal like was agreed. That's not me being entitled, that's you scamming.
2) I'm not spamming, I'm replying to people. If you have a problem with somebody replying to people in relevant context and using pictures, that sounds like a personal issue.
3) You dropped me before payment because of your error and being a bad campaign manager. You then said you would make things normal and fix it, but you didn't. Obviously things are not back to normal like you agreed to.
4) Case still open, simply because you state it's over doesn't mean it's over. There still are allegations of your blackmailing which is documented and also scamming out of the agreement you said yes to.

1. Its already solved. So it involves no scamming, cause you were paid. Ref: https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/6b4e3f354946feb24ea08c5c5331f0b6bb2cb3b77ed72d6241673538e700c94chttps://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/6b4e3f354946feb24ea08c5c5331f0b6bb2cb3b77ed72d6241673538e700c94c

2. You're spamming. You have made 90 posts, and all of them with the same images over and over again.

3. Dropping you initially might have been a mistake, but dropping you later was a well-made decision.

4. Don't forget that you also blackmailed him. Now that you're paid, what are you whining about here? Extortion? This is very subjective, he asked you to delete your posts, and that is not considered to be extortion, in the court of order in many countries.

If I were to drop WaffleMaster, a Hero member, and add the new Legendary member, would WaffleMaster still be able to claim he is getting "scammed?"

You need to stop comparing ranks. It doesn't look good as it sounds. There are better newbies than Legendary, for all I know. Rank doesn't define a person, or his post quality.

If I were to drop WaffleMaster, a Hero member, and add the new Legendary member, would WaffleMaster still be able to claim he is getting "scammed?"

Not that he was scammed in the first place, he wouldn't be able to claim that he got scammed. For future purposes, just tell why you're removing someone, just to avoid situations like these that may or,may not bite you in the ass. It won't hurt for you to just to tell why. Can you both just apologize to each other for being jerks to one another?

[WaffleMaster]

Lets try a different angle here WaffleMaster.

You seem convinced that you were scammed and jeremypwr disagrees with that statement. The community is very fair, how many members have taken your side and agree with the fact that you were scammed from the earnings of the remaining 7 weeks of the campaign? Because I have read the threads you have open and I have yet to see one supporting that claim, maybe I missed it, but that should tell you something, you are in the wrong at that point, mistakes were made by jeremypwr, he has admitted as much, I think you also made some mistakes in the form you reacted, if you keep this up the members of the forum will be even more unsympathetic to your claims and you will only damage yourself.

To me this was just a big misunderstanding that has been blown out of proportion.

I'm with WaffleMaster's side here. Just for the sake.
But cheer up WaffleMaster. Its not the end of the world for you. You already wasted two days of your life when you could have done something more meaningful than getting into a fight you may never win. There are hundred more campaigns out there, all they may be needing is you who can raise awareness for their project.

So let me ask you this, since you seem to be the only person who sides with WaffleMaster:

Yahoo himself said I was in the right, somebody you seem to respect. Also, there are many members in here agreeing what you did was not only wrong, but illegal. No country allows extortion, and certainly this libertarian majority community should not allow extortion for censorship.

If I was your boss, let's say roofing, and we had a 2 month project that we were working on and one day I think you showed up late because my watch was an hour ahead, and I fired you, is that ok? Is it then ok to say that if you say anything, I'll withhold all payment for previous work you've done?

No, that would not be ok, but jeremypwr admitted his mistake, apologised

Oh so when somebody commits a crime, if they just say sorry, tha tis ok enough and no action should be taken. True (/s).

Holy fuck, anybody that isnt retarded can see that this campaign manager extorted u. literally wanted to censor u or else he wouldnt pay what he said, what u were owed. Why? Cus u posted about not being paid properly cus he is a piece of shit manager n couldnt count to 25 right? Holy fuck!!! how is this dude not banned for illegal activity. super anti bitcoin with his censorship too

There is no need for name calling, although what you say isn't wrong.

It's not blackmailing when you tell someone you'll open a scam accusation. If there's no reason for that accusation, there shouldn't be anything to fear. Right?

Jeremypwr on the other hand is clearly blackmailing by threatening to not pay what was agreed on if something (which is even unrelated to the payment) is not done in time.

This is very well atriculated. That's why I put it in the beginning post just to shut down the same repetitive braindead bullshit about the me blackmailing him argument.

So Jeremy, there is only one person who agrees? Or does the majority agree with me? You literally committed a crime. No country allows extortion.

[LTU_btc]

It would be time to stop... I didn't read all this shitstorm in different threads, but can you tell me what do you want to reach? Do you want to be returned to campaign after all these attacks against campaign manager? Ok, he made mistake, but he didn't scammed you, he paid you. And after public criticism about "scamming" he decided to remove you from campaign. Normal decision. Well, he didn't acted as he should be by sending these PM's, but seens that he learned from that. It was easy to resolve this issue in civilized methods by communicating via PM and having a bit more patience, not as you both did. But I don't understand why you still continue this shit. It just damage your reputation because I don't think that bounty managers will want to have "drama queen" in their campaigns.

[WaffleMaster]

It would be time to stop... I didn't read all this shitstorm in different threads, but can you tell me what do you want to reach? Do you want to be returned to campaign after all these attacks against campaign manager? Ok, he made mistake, but he didn't scammed you, he paid you. And after public criticism about "scamming" he decided to remove you from campaign. Normal decision. Well, he didn't acted as he should be by sending these PM's, but seens that he learned from that. It was easy to resolve this issue in civilized methods by communicating via PM and having a bit more patience, not as you both did. But I don't understand why you still continue this shit. It just damage your reputation because I don't think that bounty managers will want to have "drama queen" in their campaigns.

No, I don't want to be returned to the campaign, as stated in this PM (pic below) immediately after he committed a crime ,punishable up to 20 years in prison, against me. A literal felony to try and censor me.



I don't care if somebody think I'm dramatic for exposing somebody committing a felony against another person or myself. The support is exponentially ramping up against his criminal actions. People are pulling their campaign applications, people are waiting and seeing if criminal activity is moderated like the forum rules says it is. My reputation is fine, because truth and logic with evidence beats criminal activity any day of the week.