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August 07, 2018, 12:23:02 PM
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Hey!

I have been thinking about to start lottery and raffle site. This has been in my head really long time. So if someone is interested, shoot me pm and ill give my telegram and we can speak about this.
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August 07, 2018, 05:22:14 PM
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This can be a legal problem, depending in which country you're located.
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August 07, 2018, 05:33:09 PM
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Yeah i was thinking about that too. I tried to look that up and didnt find anything what would be illegal. I will try to search more if i find partner. And btw i am in finland.
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August 07, 2018, 06:15:51 PM
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Hello please write in telegram @AidarAskarov

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August 07, 2018, 07:58:50 PM
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More people are welcome to tell me more about yourself.
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August 08, 2018, 01:19:54 AM
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I’ve looked into this in the past and the legalities will make it beyond difficult. There are some countries that would be more tolerant but you’d still need various licenses which will set you back significantly.
There was a well established raffle site that closed down a while back. The site was great but it’s possible that there just wasn’t enough interest.
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August 08, 2018, 01:28:43 AM
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This can be a legal problem, depending in which country you're located.

He probably had consider this project because there is no problem where he is.


If you ever have success in creating this raffle site of yours, I can be a partner in marketing it. I'm part of the mod of a large facebook group that is related to cryptocurrency and have marketed ICOs there which collected funds that end up to be profitable. PM me if you need this service.


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August 08, 2018, 04:47:52 AM
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I’ve looked into this in the past and the legalities will make it beyond difficult. There are some countries that would be more tolerant but you’d still need various licenses which will set you back significantly.
There was a well established raffle site that closed down a while back. The site was great but it’s possible that there just wasn’t enough interest.
Legalization is important to make the site work well. And Finland I guess is a country that free to create a gambling and lottery site, so, the OP can make it easier.

A feature that is packaged on the site must be interesting, it must be different from the other lottery sites. So it will make someone who comes will be comfortable and they are not bored, just a little suggestion from me.

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August 08, 2018, 06:37:53 AM
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Finland - https://www.vero.fi/en/detailed-guidance/guidance/47986/taxation_of_lotteries_competitions_game2/

I quote : The concept of ’lottery’ (Finnish: arpajaiset; Swedish: lotteri) covers cash competitions or sweepstakes, non-money lotteries where consumer goods are given out as prizes, guessing games, bingo games, football pools, other betting and horse races, along with the operation of slot machines that may give cash or consumer goods as prizes, and the operation of gambling games in a casino establishment.

So it is legal in Finland and they charge 12% tax on the operator’s gross profit.

A raffle means a lottery based on drawings of chance or other similar manner at random where it is possible to win any of the prizes. The prizes can be different kind of goods or gift cards and vouchers which can be exchanged for goods or services.

These types of events subject to fees may only be organized by non-profit organizations under the rules of the legislation governing gaming, gambling and lotteries. Under § 27 of the Act governing gaming, a school class, a club, or a group of co-workers can organize small events where goods can be given out as prizes. Lotteries/raffles operated or organized by any other body will fall into the category of other lottery/competition, even when the prize is goods, and thus taxed at the 30-percent lottery tax rate.

However, if total sales of tickets stays below EUR 3 333.33, no lottery tax is payable.

Hope that gives you some answers to your questions.

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August 08, 2018, 07:55:42 AM
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Finland - https://www.vero.fi/en/detailed-guidance/guidance/47986/taxation_of_lotteries_competitions_game2/

I quote : The concept of ’lottery’ (Finnish: arpajaiset; Swedish: lotteri) covers cash competitions or sweepstakes, non-money lotteries where consumer goods are given out as prizes, guessing games, bingo games, football pools, other betting and horse races, along with the operation of slot machines that may give cash or consumer goods as prizes, and the operation of gambling games in a casino establishment.

So it is legal in Finland and they charge 12% tax on the operator’s gross profit.

A raffle means a lottery based on drawings of chance or other similar manner at random where it is possible to win any of the prizes. The prizes can be different kind of goods or gift cards and vouchers which can be exchanged for goods or services.

These types of events subject to fees may only be organized by non-profit organizations under the rules of the legislation governing gaming, gambling and lotteries. Under § 27 of the Act governing gaming, a school class, a club, or a group of co-workers can organize small events where goods can be given out as prizes. Lotteries/raffles operated or organized by any other body will fall into the category of other lottery/competition, even when the prize is goods, and thus taxed at the 30-percent lottery tax rate.

However, if total sales of tickets stays below EUR 3 333.33, no lottery tax is payable.

Hope that gives you some answers to your questions.


Damn dude. Thanks. One way to go is if this gos big, i register this as conpany to malta. All internet casinos in finland are in malta. Want to talk in telegram?
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August 08, 2018, 08:53:52 AM
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I'm very interesting. I'm in Macau,Asians like lottery
Can you pm me your idea?
or add telegram
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August 08, 2018, 09:21:03 AM
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This can be a legal problem, depending in which country you're located.

He probably had consider this project because there is no problem where he is.


If you ever have success in creating this raffle site of yours, I can be a partner in marketing it. I'm part of the mod of a large facebook group that is related to cryptocurrency and have marketed ICOs there which collected funds that end up to be profitable. PM me if you need this service.
I tried to pm you.
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August 09, 2018, 07:39:25 AM
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Finland - https://www.vero.fi/en/detailed-guidance/guidance/47986/taxation_of_lotteries_competitions_game2/

I quote : The concept of ’lottery’ (Finnish: arpajaiset; Swedish: lotteri) covers cash competitions or sweepstakes, non-money lotteries where consumer goods are given out as prizes, guessing games, bingo games, football pools, other betting and horse races, along with the operation of slot machines that may give cash or consumer goods as prizes, and the operation of gambling games in a casino establishment.

So it is legal in Finland and they charge 12% tax on the operator’s gross profit.

A raffle means a lottery based on drawings of chance or other similar manner at random where it is possible to win any of the prizes. The prizes can be different kind of goods or gift cards and vouchers which can be exchanged for goods or services.

These types of events subject to fees may only be organized by non-profit organizations under the rules of the legislation governing gaming, gambling and lotteries. Under § 27 of the Act governing gaming, a school class, a club, or a group of co-workers can organize small events where goods can be given out as prizes. Lotteries/raffles operated or organized by any other body will fall into the category of other lottery/competition, even when the prize is goods, and thus taxed at the 30-percent lottery tax rate.

However, if total sales of tickets stays below EUR 3 333.33, no lottery tax is payable.

Hope that gives you some answers to your questions.


Damn dude. Thanks. One way to go is if this gos big, i register this as conpany to malta. All internet casinos in finland are in malta. Want to talk in telegram?

Nope, Sorry my anonymity is my primary concern.  Wink

A lot of people are hosting their casinos in offshore locations, but they are still citizens in their own country, so their local laws are still applicable to them. Also, customers to their casino have their own laws and you will have to block countries based on their location, to protect yourself.

Will you relocate to Malta with duel citizenship?

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August 09, 2018, 10:37:55 AM
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Finland - https://www.vero.fi/en/detailed-guidance/guidance/47986/taxation_of_lotteries_competitions_game2/

I quote : The concept of ’lottery’ (Finnish: arpajaiset; Swedish: lotteri) covers cash competitions or sweepstakes, non-money lotteries where consumer goods are given out as prizes, guessing games, bingo games, football pools, other betting and horse races, along with the operation of slot machines that may give cash or consumer goods as prizes, and the operation of gambling games in a casino establishment.

So it is legal in Finland and they charge 12% tax on the operator’s gross profit.

A raffle means a lottery based on drawings of chance or other similar manner at random where it is possible to win any of the prizes. The prizes can be different kind of goods or gift cards and vouchers which can be exchanged for goods or services.

These types of events subject to fees may only be organized by non-profit organizations under the rules of the legislation governing gaming, gambling and lotteries. Under § 27 of the Act governing gaming, a school class, a club, or a group of co-workers can organize small events where goods can be given out as prizes. Lotteries/raffles operated or organized by any other body will fall into the category of other lottery/competition, even when the prize is goods, and thus taxed at the 30-percent lottery tax rate.

However, if total sales of tickets stays below EUR 3 333.33, no lottery tax is payable.

Hope that gives you some answers to your questions.


Damn dude. Thanks. One way to go is if this gos big, i register this as conpany to malta. All internet casinos in finland are in malta. Want to talk in telegram?

Nope, Sorry my anonymity is my primary concern.  Wink

A lot of people are hosting their casinos in offshore locations, but they are still citizens in their own country, so their local laws are still applicable to them. Also, customers to their casino have their own laws and you will have to block countries based on their location, to protect yourself.

Will you relocate to Malta with duel citizenship?

I understand, same with my anonymity.

Yes. Its possible to have double citizenship, its possible if you have ex. Company in different country. Another option is bahamas. I can chat with you in wickr also if you dont want more anonymity.
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August 10, 2018, 03:48:48 PM
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Finland - https://www.vero.fi/en/detailed-guidance/guidance/47986/taxation_of_lotteries_competitions_game2/

I quote : The concept of ’lottery’ (Finnish: arpajaiset; Swedish: lotteri) covers cash competitions or sweepstakes, non-money lotteries where consumer goods are given out as prizes, guessing games, bingo games, football pools, other betting and horse races, along with the operation of slot machines that may give cash or consumer goods as prizes, and the operation of gambling games in a casino establishment.

So it is legal in Finland and they charge 12% tax on the operator’s gross profit.

A raffle means a lottery based on drawings of chance or other similar manner at random where it is possible to win any of the prizes. The prizes can be different kind of goods or gift cards and vouchers which can be exchanged for goods or services.

These types of events subject to fees may only be organized by non-profit organizations under the rules of the legislation governing gaming, gambling and lotteries. Under § 27 of the Act governing gaming, a school class, a club, or a group of co-workers can organize small events where goods can be given out as prizes. Lotteries/raffles operated or organized by any other body will fall into the category of other lottery/competition, even when the prize is goods, and thus taxed at the 30-percent lottery tax rate.

However, if total sales of tickets stays below EUR 3 333.33, no lottery tax is payable.

Hope that gives you some answers to your questions.


Damn dude. Thanks. One way to go is if this gos big, i register this as conpany to malta. All internet casinos in finland are in malta. Want to talk in telegram?

Nope, Sorry my anonymity is my primary concern.  Wink

A lot of people are hosting their casinos in offshore locations, but they are still citizens in their own country, so their local laws are still applicable to them. Also, customers to their casino have their own laws and you will have to block countries based on their location, to protect yourself.

Will you relocate to Malta with duel citizenship?

I understand, same with my anonymity.

Yes. Its possible to have double citizenship, its possible if you have ex. Company in different country. Another option is bahamas. I can chat with you in wickr also if you dont want more anonymity.

I am no expert, so I will not be of any use to you. The only reason why I know a bit about this, is because I had some legal issues with something similar and I dealt with some lawyers about this. You should seriously consider talking to a lawyer before you do this, because you can get into a lot of trouble, if you do this wrong.

Good luck with your project.  Wink

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August 11, 2018, 07:18:48 AM
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Finland - https://www.vero.fi/en/detailed-guidance/guidance/47986/taxation_of_lotteries_competitions_game2/

I quote : The concept of ’lottery’ (Finnish: arpajaiset; Swedish: lotteri) covers cash competitions or sweepstakes, non-money lotteries where consumer goods are given out as prizes, guessing games, bingo games, football pools, other betting and horse races, along with the operation of slot machines that may give cash or consumer goods as prizes, and the operation of gambling games in a casino establishment.

So it is legal in Finland and they charge 12% tax on the operator’s gross profit.

A raffle means a lottery based on drawings of chance or other similar manner at random where it is possible to win any of the prizes. The prizes can be different kind of goods or gift cards and vouchers which can be exchanged for goods or services.

These types of events subject to fees may only be organized by non-profit organizations under the rules of the legislation governing gaming, gambling and lotteries. Under § 27 of the Act governing gaming, a school class, a club, or a group of co-workers can organize small events where goods can be given out as prizes. Lotteries/raffles operated or organized by any other body will fall into the category of other lottery/competition, even when the prize is goods, and thus taxed at the 30-percent lottery tax rate.

However, if total sales of tickets stays below EUR 3 333.33, no lottery tax is payable.

Hope that gives you some answers to your questions.


Damn dude. Thanks. One way to go is if this gos big, i register this as conpany to malta. All internet casinos in finland are in malta. Want to talk in telegram?

Nope, Sorry my anonymity is my primary concern.  Wink

A lot of people are hosting their casinos in offshore locations, but they are still citizens in their own country, so their local laws are still applicable to them. Also, customers to their casino have their own laws and you will have to block countries based on their location, to protect yourself.

Will you relocate to Malta with duel citizenship?

I understand, same with my anonymity.

Yes. Its possible to have double citizenship, its possible if you have ex. Company in different country. Another option is bahamas. I can chat with you in wickr also if you dont want more anonymity.

I am no expert, so I will not be of any use to you. The only reason why I know a bit about this, is because I had some legal issues with something similar and I dealt with some lawyers about this. You should seriously consider talking to a lawyer before you do this, because you can get into a lot of trouble, if you do this wrong.

Good luck with your project.  Wink

Yeah. I will do some research when i find scripts and etc.
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Can you enable the receive message from newbie in your settings?

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