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August 10, 2018, 02:19:14 AM
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What is up with the Russian forum and xandry,why is everyone hating him?

Seeing who's doing the hating it would seem that xandry is doing a decent job hitting the spammers where it hurts.


No, so much allegation means it need to be investigated. 
When did the parameter of hatred become the symbol of job is done correctly?

What a irony some forum members are fighting for moderator for their local boards and these guys are fighting against their moderators.

PS: I am not Russian but may be be Theymos need to settle it out because community fighting is not a good thing.
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August 10, 2018, 02:28:42 AM
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Seeing who's doing the hating it would seem that xandry is doing a decent job hitting the spammers where it hurts.
I pointed that moderator xandry first writes one thing, and in the next week quite another. See two PMs from him:
July 31,       2018 - xandry: "I don't have sufficient authority".
August 07, 2018 - xandry: "I didn't finished with the first message yet".
Where is the logic? It looks like a mockery.


You're making it sound as if Lithuania is a pizza shop or something. It's a fucking country you fuckwit.
This is a very fascinating that Lithuania with 2.9 million inhabitants attracts a lot of unusual people, among them the representative of Worldcore, the Bitcointalk global moderator and the international swindler Pavel Krymov.
https://www.e-tar.lt/portal/lt/legalActPrint?documentId=338f94e0024b11e78034be159a964f47

So three people in a country of 3 million means what exactly?

For comparison, nine "unusual" people in NYC - is that also a conspiracy? You would easily find that many in one subway car.
Comparison is not quite right. New York is the world capital, and attracts a huge number of people each year, while Lithuania is in the backyard of Europe and is attractive to scammers in that it is easy to get Schengen there.
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August 10, 2018, 04:32:55 AM
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Comparison is not quite right. New York is the world capital, and attracts a huge number of people each year, while Lithuania is in the backyard of Europe and is attractive to scammers in that it is easy to get Schengen there.

This is a good example why you sound like a deranged clown - you're inventing arbitrary criteria to fit your conspiracy theories. Do the scammers go to Lithuania to get Schengen passports or do they go to meet mprep, or perhaps they just like the scenery? Focus on facts, follow forum rules, and you'll be fine. Not sure what your goal is but e.g. if you want to show that mprep or xandry or whoever are involved in some shitcoining scam you're gonna have to come up with some actual proof.

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August 10, 2018, 04:59:33 AM
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This is a good example why you sound like a deranged clown - you're inventing arbitrary criteria to fit your conspiracy theories. Do the scammers go to Lithuania to get Schengen passports or do they go to meet mprep, or perhaps they just like the scenery? Focus on facts, follow forum rules, and you'll be fine.
Note that I didn't blame the moderator mprep for dealing with scammers, but only pointed to an interesting coincidence in the history of his geolocation and also of the Worldcore representative and a known criminal. But you behave absolutely impermissible allowing yourself to freely insult users.
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August 10, 2018, 05:27:32 AM
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Is it not moderator's job to support the forum in order?

I suppose you mean "keep it clean". Yes, it is, but only when it's related to abidance of the forum rules.

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I asked moderator xandry to read the topic about cheaters accounts that constantly violating the forum rules

Probably, but not in the message you provided in your original post here.

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xandry said at first that he "don't have sufficient authority". But on my second letter a week later he responded "I didn't finished with the first letter yet"

Perhaps he nonetheless found some way to help you or was being pondered the possibilities.

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russian moderators closed their eyes on the similar self-moderated topic created by bots

They could simply not know about that self-moderated topic or forget about it. Also they could keep it consiously (for example, because it was informative enough or because there was some interesting discussion). The fact is that it's most likely not the specific "attack" against you or your comrade.

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As I understand correctly, this rule applies to messages and not to topics

This rule concerns "posting". You can post a comment in the existing thread - and you can also post a thread. Interpretation depends on moderators (according to p.23 of the forum rules).

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The administrator teymos considered the ban was questionable, so the moderator could at least demand explanations from the user

I assume you understood it wrongly. This quote doesn't contain any pretensions to moderator - moreover it seems that theymos confirms that violation indeed took place but it wasn't intentional and doesn't deserve the "capital punishment". Also it's obvious that you badly imagine the amount of work the moderators do (including the amount of shitposters and bots they need to nuke). "Demanding explanations" from every single user would take up a lot of time, and I doubt that Marina Uni's case looked special enough from the start to make an exception.

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I wonder was it a mprep? [...] the coincidence is very entertaining

Your suppositions look like mprep is the only Global Moderator you know.



What is up with the Russian forum and xandry,why is everyone hating him?

Not everyone - just a couple of users. The problem is that these users turned out to be very "active" in their discontent.

community fighting is not a good thing

I don't think that it's precisely "community" fighting. Someone goes out to the squere and starts to resent loudly. Someone tries to settle them down. They're few - the majority of Russian users is not involved.
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August 10, 2018, 06:07:55 AM
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Your suppositions look like mprep is the only Global Moderator you know.
There are 3 global moderators on the forum: mprep, rickbig41, hilariousandco. Not so much as I can see.





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russian moderators closed their eyes on the similar self-moderated topic created by bots

They could simply not know about that self-moderated topic or forget about it. Also they could keep it consiously (for example, because it was informative enough or because there was some interesting discussion).
The benefits of that topic is extremely doubtful. Worldcore Bots using it for plagiarism, spamming and copypasting.

Proofs:
#1
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3864176.msg43352983#msg43352983
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg43353019#msg43353019
#2
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3864176.msg43235609#msg43235609
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg43235647#msg43235647
#3
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3864176.msg43414743#msg43414743
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg43414664#msg43414664
#4
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3864176.msg43168036#msg43168036
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4457333.msg43167882#msg43167882
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4437281.msg43167945#msg43167945
#5
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3864176.msg43416580#msg43416580
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg43416556#msg43416556
#6
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3864176.msg42752649#msg42752649
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg42752591#msg42752591
#7
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3864176.msg43234794#msg43234794
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4437281.msg43234035#msg43234035
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4457333.msg43234059#msg43234059
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg43234220#msg43234220
#8
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3864176.msg43414999#msg43414999
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg43414946#msg43414946
#9
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3864176.msg43354718#msg43354718
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg43354749#msg43354749
#10
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3864176.msg42752346#msg42752346
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg42806998#msg42806998
#11
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3864176.msg42755172#msg42755172
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg42754981#msg42754981
#12
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3864176.msg42755223#msg42755223
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg42755122#msg42755122
#13
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3864176.msg37446292#msg37446292
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg32272371#msg32272371
#14
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3864176.msg43293626#msg43293626
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4437281.msg43293558#msg43293558
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4457333.msg43293584#msg43293584
#15
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3864176.msg42988616#msg42988616
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4437281.msg42988215#msg42988215
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4457333.msg42988240#msg42988240
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2251768.msg43033727#msg43033727

If the russian moderators for so long didn't notice the topic with a massive violations, then what they are generally doing?
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August 10, 2018, 06:14:43 AM
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What is up with the Russian forum and xandry,why is everyone hating him?

Because @xandry is actually getting shit done. Spammers don't like change, and probably hate posting 50 posts a week, only to have the majority of them deleted for being shitposts.



If the russian moderators for so long didn't notice the topic with such a massive number of violations, then what they are generally doing?

Instead of bitching about it, why don't you report the posts and help out by being a good actor in this community? Or put yourself in the shoes of the mods and see exactly how much time you have to spend sifting through bullshit posts, referencing other posts and researching the internet for plagiarism or going through users' post histories... It's not an easy job, and just because you found 15 instances of violations doesn't make you a hero. Why not report them instead of putting them on display to try and prove that the mods suck at their jobs?

People like you just make it harder for them. Please stop.

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August 10, 2018, 06:19:25 AM
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Instead of bitching about it, why don't you report the posts and help out by being a good actor in this community?... Why not report them instead of putting them on display to try and prove that the mods suck at their jobs?
I reported, but they're ignoring, so I had to create this thread.
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August 10, 2018, 09:54:17 AM
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I'm more interested in another question, why did xandry put his tongue in the ass and not respond to the claims put forward to him?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4817399.msg43724740#msg43724740
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August 10, 2018, 11:55:19 AM
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This is a good example why you sound like a deranged clown - you're inventing arbitrary criteria to fit your conspiracy theories. Do the scammers go to Lithuania to get Schengen passports or do they go to meet mprep, or perhaps they just like the scenery? Focus on facts, follow forum rules, and you'll be fine.
Note that I didn't blame the moderator mprep for dealing with scammers, but only pointed to an interesting coincidence in the history of his geolocation and also of the Worldcore representative and a known criminal. But you behave absolutely impermissible allowing yourself to freely insult users.

As I said, if you want to contribute to the Worldcore scam accusation then focus on facts, not innuendo.

On the other hand, if you want to help Worldcore supporters so that they could point to you as an example of how untrustworthy the opponents are - keep doing what you're doing with your conspiracy theories.

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August 10, 2018, 12:00:13 PM
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As I said, if you want to contribute to the Worldcore scam accusation then focus on facts, not innuendo.
Ok, I got it.
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