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February 28, 2014, 08:08:40 PM
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Wait we can find out who's the senter? I didnt thought that would be possible
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February 28, 2014, 08:11:52 PM
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Wait we can find out who's the senter? I didnt thought that would be possible
Everything is possible! It's just very hard

You can even monitor an address to see at witch nodes it broadcast first the transaction and after monitoring it for a while you have only a few IP's on the list of "suspects"

But it is very hard to do that and time consuming especially if it's not in your blood to track people down!

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February 28, 2014, 08:14:27 PM
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Wait we can find out who's the senter? I didnt thought that would be possible

It isn't easy, and it isn't always possible.  It really depends on how careful the sender is as well as how careful the people and business that the sender interacts with are.

Many people post their bitcoin addresses publicly.  Others interact with people or businesses that post their bitcoin address publicly.  Many also re-use the same address more than once.

If you do any of these, then yes, it improves the chances that we can find out who is the sender.

In this case the sender re-used addresses and interacted with people or businesses that post their bitcoin address publicly.

Bitcoin is not anonymous.  Anyone who told you it is was either lying to you or misinformed.  Every transaction can be tracked from address to address until it leads to an address that is public.  Once you get there, you just have to ask that person who they sent to (or received from), and trace the chain of transactions back the way you came.
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February 28, 2014, 08:18:49 PM
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Wait we can find out who's the senter? I didnt thought that would be possible

It isn't easy, and it isn't always possible.  It really depends on how careful the sender is as well as how careful the people and business that the sender interacts with are.

Many people post their bitcoin addresses publicly.  Others interact with people or businesses that post their bitcoin address publicly.  Many also re-use the same address more than once.

If you do any of these, then yes, it improves the chances that we can find out who is the sender.

In this case the sender re-used addresses and interacted with people or businesses that post their bitcoin address publicly.

Bitcoin is not anonymous.  Anyone who told you it is was either lying to you or misinformed.  Every transaction can be tracked from address to address until it leads to an address that is public.  Once you get there, you just have to ask that person who they sent to (or received from), and trace the chain of transactions back the way you came.

the most simple way to make your BTC vanish from stalker is to deposit at an exchange all your BTC then buy another crypto that is stable and move the new crypto you've bought at another exchange and sell it for BTC you will loose the fees plus the difference from exchanges but if you are careful you can even finish this process in profit, withdraw the BTC to another address you own!

no one can trace this!

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February 28, 2014, 08:23:36 PM
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the most simple way to make your BTC vanish from stalker is to deposit at an exchange all your BTC then buy another crypto that is stable and move the new crypto you've bought at another exchange and sell it for BTC you will loose the fees plus the difference from exchanges but if you are careful you can even finish this process in profit, withdraw the BTC to another address you own!

no one can trace this!

I suspect that in the future, people who believe that this is a guaranteed way to hide the source of their bitcoins are going to be rather surprised at the capabilities of forensic accounting and a lot of computing power.
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February 28, 2014, 08:39:29 PM
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the most simple way to make your BTC vanish from stalker is to deposit at an exchange all your BTC then buy another crypto that is stable and move the new crypto you've bought at another exchange and sell it for BTC you will loose the fees plus the difference from exchanges but if you are careful you can even finish this process in profit, withdraw the BTC to another address you own!

no one can trace this!

I suspect that in the future, people who believe that this is a guaranteed way to hide the source of their bitcoins are going to be rather surprised at the capabilities of forensic accounting and a lot of computing power.

I deposit BTC and Buy AUR go to another exchange sell AUR for BTC and withdraw to a fresh new wallet.dat made on another pc with another IP and put it on paper wallet .... how they can find out?

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February 28, 2014, 08:45:51 PM
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I suspect that in the future, people who believe that this is a guaranteed way to hide the source of their bitcoins are going to be rather surprised at the capabilities of forensic accounting and a lot of computing power.
I deposit BTC and Buy AUR go to another exchange sell AUR for BTC and withdraw to a fresh new wallet.dat made on another pc with another IP and put it on paper wallet .... how they can find out?

IANAFA (I am not a forensic accountant), so I'm no expert in the matter.

One possibility that comes to mind is that they know the total AUR that the deposited BTC can purchase.  They see the depoist from you at the first exchange.  Then they find a transaction (or set of transactions) withdrawing the right amount of AUR from the first exchange.  They follow these transactions through the AUR blockchain until they see them all deposited into the exact same account at the second exchange.  They know the total BTC that the deposited AUR can purchase, so they find a transaction (or set of transactions) withdrawing the right amount of BTC from the second exchange.

In addition they track the source of where you get the initital BTC from, and they track the location that the final BTC are stored or spent.  A subpoena and a search warrant, and they confirm that the bitcoins are yours.
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February 28, 2014, 08:51:37 PM
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I suspect that in the future, people who believe that this is a guaranteed way to hide the source of their bitcoins are going to be rather surprised at the capabilities of forensic accounting and a lot of computing power.
I deposit BTC and Buy AUR go to another exchange sell AUR for BTC and withdraw to a fresh new wallet.dat made on another pc with another IP and put it on paper wallet .... how they can find out?

IANAFA (I am not a forensic accountant), so I'm no expert in the matter.

One possibility that comes to mind is that they know the total AUR that the deposited BTC can purchase.  They see the depoist from you at the first exchange.  Then they find a transaction (or set of transactions) withdrawing the right amount of AUR from the first exchange.  They follow these transactions through the AUR blockchain until they see them all deposited into the exact same account at the second exchange.  They know the total BTC that the deposited AUR can purchase, so they find a transaction (or set of transactions) withdrawing the right amount of BTC from the second exchange.

In addition they track the source of where you get the initial BTC from, and they track the location that the final BTC are stored or spent.  A subpoena and a search warrant, and they confirm that the bitcoins are yours.

Damn! You're good! even if you are not IANAFA !!!

I have to develop a way to make it secure, maybe building some shady websites where you purchase things that are not shippable and from that websites to deposit the money in different exchanges and withdraw in also more wallets the final amount, if they still can find it at least they will work their asses off!

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February 28, 2014, 09:00:28 PM
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.1 out of nowhere? Damnnnnn! That's like finding 60 bucks (at current trading) in your bank account!
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February 28, 2014, 11:09:24 PM
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.1 out of nowhere? Damnnnnn! That's like finding 60 bucks (at current trading) in your bank account!

exactly - if you found 60 bucks in your bank account from a mystery person wouldnt you want to know who it was from?!
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February 28, 2014, 11:44:06 PM
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.1 out of nowhere? Damnnnnn! That's like finding 60 bucks (at current trading) in your bank account!

I once got 0.25BTC and I still don't know who I got them from Cheesy

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March 01, 2014, 07:39:06 AM
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.1 out of nowhere? Damnnnnn! That's like finding 60 bucks (at current trading) in your bank account!

I once got 0.25BTC and I still don't know who I got them from Cheesy

Feel free to send me 0.25btc, and I won't care who you are lol  Grin
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March 01, 2014, 10:33:32 AM
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.1 out of nowhere? Damnnnnn! That's like finding 60 bucks (at current trading) in your bank account!

I once got 0.25BTC and I still don't know who I got them from Cheesy

Feel free to send me 0.25btc, and I won't care who you are lol  Grin
Why don't you send half to me? I could use it. Cheesy

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March 01, 2014, 11:04:42 AM
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Wait we can find out who's the senter? I didnt thought that would be possible

It isn't easy, and it isn't always possible.  It really depends on how careful the sender is as well as how careful the people and business that the sender interacts with are.

Many people post their bitcoin addresses publicly.  Others interact with people or businesses that post their bitcoin address publicly.  Many also re-use the same address more than once.

If you do any of these, then yes, it improves the chances that we can find out who is the sender.

In this case the sender re-used addresses and interacted with people or businesses that post their bitcoin address publicly.

Bitcoin is not anonymous.  Anyone who told you it is was either lying to you or misinformed.  Every transaction can be tracked from address to address until it leads to an address that is public.  Once you get there, you just have to ask that person who they sent to (or received from), and trace the chain of transactions back the way you came.

the most simple way to make your BTC vanish from stalker is to deposit at an exchange all your BTC then buy another crypto that is stable and move the new crypto you've bought at another exchange and sell it for BTC you will loose the fees plus the difference from exchanges but if you are careful you can even finish this process in profit, withdraw the BTC to another address you own!

no one can trace this!

daaamn, that's genius Cheesy

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IANAFA (I am not a forensic accountant), so I'm no expert in the matter.

One possibility that comes to mind is that they know the total AUR that the deposited BTC can purchase.  They see the depoist from you at the first exchange.  Then they find a transaction (or set of transactions) withdrawing the right amount of AUR from the first exchange.  They follow these transactions through the AUR blockchain until they see them all deposited into the exact same account at the second exchange.  They know the total BTC that the deposited AUR can purchase, so they find a transaction (or set of transactions) withdrawing the right amount of BTC from the second exchange.

In addition they track the source of where you get the initial BTC from, and they track the location that the final BTC are stored or spent.  A subpoena and a search warrant, and they confirm that the bitcoins are yours.

can they track you down if you're using a dynamic IP which changes every day? Cheesy

.1 out of nowhere? Damnnnnn! That's like finding 60 bucks (at current trading) in your bank account!

I once got 0.25BTC and I still don't know who I got them from Cheesy

Feel free to send me 0.25btc, and I won't care who you are lol  Grin
Why don't you send half to me? I could use it. Cheesy

Unfortunately I lost them, don't ask me how Sad

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March 01, 2014, 11:23:55 AM
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Wait we can find out who's the senter? I didnt thought that would be possible

It isn't easy, and it isn't always possible.  It really depends on how careful the sender is as well as how careful the people and business that the sender interacts with are.

Many people post their bitcoin addresses publicly.  Others interact with people or businesses that post their bitcoin address publicly.  Many also re-use the same address more than once.

If you do any of these, then yes, it improves the chances that we can find out who is the sender.

In this case the sender re-used addresses and interacted with people or businesses that post their bitcoin address publicly.

Bitcoin is not anonymous.  Anyone who told you it is was either lying to you or misinformed.  Every transaction can be tracked from address to address until it leads to an address that is public.  Once you get there, you just have to ask that person who they sent to (or received from), and trace the chain of transactions back the way you came.

the most simple way to make your BTC vanish from stalker is to deposit at an exchange all your BTC then buy another crypto that is stable and move the new crypto you've bought at another exchange and sell it for BTC you will loose the fees plus the difference from exchanges but if you are careful you can even finish this process in profit, withdraw the BTC to another address you own!

no one can trace this!

daaamn, that's genius Cheesy

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IANAFA (I am not a forensic accountant), so I'm no expert in the matter.

One possibility that comes to mind is that they know the total AUR that the deposited BTC can purchase.  They see the depoist from you at the first exchange.  Then they find a transaction (or set of transactions) withdrawing the right amount of AUR from the first exchange.  They follow these transactions through the AUR blockchain until they see them all deposited into the exact same account at the second exchange.  They know the total BTC that the deposited AUR can purchase, so they find a transaction (or set of transactions) withdrawing the right amount of BTC from the second exchange.

In addition they track the source of where you get the initial BTC from, and they track the location that the final BTC are stored or spent.  A subpoena and a search warrant, and they confirm that the bitcoins are yours.

can they track you down if you're using a dynamic IP which changes every day? Cheesy

.1 out of nowhere? Damnnnnn! That's like finding 60 bucks (at current trading) in your bank account!

I once got 0.25BTC and I still don't know who I got them from Cheesy

Feel free to send me 0.25btc, and I won't care who you are lol  Grin
Why don't you send half to me? I could use it. Cheesy

Unfortunately I lost them, don't ask me how Sad
How did you lose them? Grin

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March 01, 2014, 11:28:24 AM
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Wait we can find out who's the senter? I didnt thought that would be possible

It isn't easy, and it isn't always possible.  It really depends on how careful the sender is as well as how careful the people and business that the sender interacts with are.

Many people post their bitcoin addresses publicly.  Others interact with people or businesses that post their bitcoin address publicly.  Many also re-use the same address more than once.

If you do any of these, then yes, it improves the chances that we can find out who is the sender.

In this case the sender re-used addresses and interacted with people or businesses that post their bitcoin address publicly.

Bitcoin is not anonymous.  Anyone who told you it is was either lying to you or misinformed.  Every transaction can be tracked from address to address until it leads to an address that is public.  Once you get there, you just have to ask that person who they sent to (or received from), and trace the chain of transactions back the way you came.

the most simple way to make your BTC vanish from stalker is to deposit at an exchange all your BTC then buy another crypto that is stable and move the new crypto you've bought at another exchange and sell it for BTC you will loose the fees plus the difference from exchanges but if you are careful you can even finish this process in profit, withdraw the BTC to another address you own!

no one can trace this!

daaamn, that's genius Cheesy

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IANAFA (I am not a forensic accountant), so I'm no expert in the matter.

One possibility that comes to mind is that they know the total AUR that the deposited BTC can purchase.  They see the depoist from you at the first exchange.  Then they find a transaction (or set of transactions) withdrawing the right amount of AUR from the first exchange.  They follow these transactions through the AUR blockchain until they see them all deposited into the exact same account at the second exchange.  They know the total BTC that the deposited AUR can purchase, so they find a transaction (or set of transactions) withdrawing the right amount of BTC from the second exchange.

In addition they track the source of where you get the initial BTC from, and they track the location that the final BTC are stored or spent.  A subpoena and a search warrant, and they confirm that the bitcoins are yours.

can they track you down if you're using a dynamic IP which changes every day? Cheesy

.1 out of nowhere? Damnnnnn! That's like finding 60 bucks (at current trading) in your bank account!

I once got 0.25BTC and I still don't know who I got them from Cheesy

Feel free to send me 0.25btc, and I won't care who you are lol  Grin
Why don't you send half to me? I could use it. Cheesy

Unfortunately I lost them, don't ask me how Sad
How did you lose them? Grin

let's say Sheep Marketplace went down Cheesy

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March 01, 2014, 11:33:25 AM
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Wait we can find out who's the senter? I didnt thought that would be possible

It isn't easy, and it isn't always possible.  It really depends on how careful the sender is as well as how careful the people and business that the sender interacts with are.

Many people post their bitcoin addresses publicly.  Others interact with people or businesses that post their bitcoin address publicly.  Many also re-use the same address more than once.

If you do any of these, then yes, it improves the chances that we can find out who is the sender.

In this case the sender re-used addresses and interacted with people or businesses that post their bitcoin address publicly.

Bitcoin is not anonymous.  Anyone who told you it is was either lying to you or misinformed.  Every transaction can be tracked from address to address until it leads to an address that is public.  Once you get there, you just have to ask that person who they sent to (or received from), and trace the chain of transactions back the way you came.

the most simple way to make your BTC vanish from stalker is to deposit at an exchange all your BTC then buy another crypto that is stable and move the new crypto you've bought at another exchange and sell it for BTC you will loose the fees plus the difference from exchanges but if you are careful you can even finish this process in profit, withdraw the BTC to another address you own!

no one can trace this!

daaamn, that's genius Cheesy

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IANAFA (I am not a forensic accountant), so I'm no expert in the matter.

One possibility that comes to mind is that they know the total AUR that the deposited BTC can purchase.  They see the depoist from you at the first exchange.  Then they find a transaction (or set of transactions) withdrawing the right amount of AUR from the first exchange.  They follow these transactions through the AUR blockchain until they see them all deposited into the exact same account at the second exchange.  They know the total BTC that the deposited AUR can purchase, so they find a transaction (or set of transactions) withdrawing the right amount of BTC from the second exchange.

In addition they track the source of where you get the initial BTC from, and they track the location that the final BTC are stored or spent.  A subpoena and a search warrant, and they confirm that the bitcoins are yours.

can they track you down if you're using a dynamic IP which changes every day? Cheesy

.1 out of nowhere? Damnnnnn! That's like finding 60 bucks (at current trading) in your bank account!

I once got 0.25BTC and I still don't know who I got them from Cheesy

Feel free to send me 0.25btc, and I won't care who you are lol  Grin
Why don't you send half to me? I could use it. Cheesy

Unfortunately I lost them, don't ask me how Sad
How did you lose them? Grin

let's say Sheep Marketplace went down Cheesy
I'm not sure, but I think I get it. Undecided
Back on topic, just keep the coins. There's pretty much next to nothing possibility of finding who those coins belong after that much time.

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March 01, 2014, 11:35:41 AM
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Wait we can find out who's the senter? I didnt thought that would be possible

It isn't easy, and it isn't always possible.  It really depends on how careful the sender is as well as how careful the people and business that the sender interacts with are.

Many people post their bitcoin addresses publicly.  Others interact with people or businesses that post their bitcoin address publicly.  Many also re-use the same address more than once.

If you do any of these, then yes, it improves the chances that we can find out who is the sender.

In this case the sender re-used addresses and interacted with people or businesses that post their bitcoin address publicly.

Bitcoin is not anonymous.  Anyone who told you it is was either lying to you or misinformed.  Every transaction can be tracked from address to address until it leads to an address that is public.  Once you get there, you just have to ask that person who they sent to (or received from), and trace the chain of transactions back the way you came.

the most simple way to make your BTC vanish from stalker is to deposit at an exchange all your BTC then buy another crypto that is stable and move the new crypto you've bought at another exchange and sell it for BTC you will loose the fees plus the difference from exchanges but if you are careful you can even finish this process in profit, withdraw the BTC to another address you own!

no one can trace this!

daaamn, that's genius Cheesy

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IANAFA (I am not a forensic accountant), so I'm no expert in the matter.

One possibility that comes to mind is that they know the total AUR that the deposited BTC can purchase.  They see the depoist from you at the first exchange.  Then they find a transaction (or set of transactions) withdrawing the right amount of AUR from the first exchange.  They follow these transactions through the AUR blockchain until they see them all deposited into the exact same account at the second exchange.  They know the total BTC that the deposited AUR can purchase, so they find a transaction (or set of transactions) withdrawing the right amount of BTC from the second exchange.

In addition they track the source of where you get the initial BTC from, and they track the location that the final BTC are stored or spent.  A subpoena and a search warrant, and they confirm that the bitcoins are yours.

can they track you down if you're using a dynamic IP which changes every day? Cheesy

.1 out of nowhere? Damnnnnn! That's like finding 60 bucks (at current trading) in your bank account!

I once got 0.25BTC and I still don't know who I got them from Cheesy

Feel free to send me 0.25btc, and I won't care who you are lol  Grin
Why don't you send half to me? I could use it. Cheesy

Unfortunately I lost them, don't ask me how Sad
How did you lose them? Grin

let's say Sheep Marketplace went down Cheesy
I'm not sure, but I think I get it. Undecided
Back on topic, just keep the coins. There's pretty much next to nothing possibility of finding who those coins belong after that much time.

my coins were at the website when it got hacked, that's all to understand Cheesy

Altough I don't regret it, I'v gotten smarter and I'm not using those kind of websites anymore Cheesy

well, if the sender wanted you to know he sent them he would of told you, just keep them and enjoy them Smiley

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