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March 23, 2014, 07:17:50 PM |
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and he doesn't understand the Movement Community and what is the idea behind this coin...
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BeholdTheTrueWake
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March 23, 2014, 07:20:21 PM |
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This coin is a scam.
I was robbed 15 million on the online Zeitcoin wallet, no email warning and only a two day period to withdraw.
This is theft, plain and simple. Don't give me bullchit that it's "lost", the money was stolen and someone has my money in addition to others
Lemme guess......cryptorush? Coinex? The coin isn't the scam, it's the exchanges that bungled things. Blame the exchanges for stealing your coin. Don't be a smart ass. I am referring to Zeit-wallet.com Look people here have already heard many others come in here shouting about things that they can take care of themselves or could have prevented had they kept up to date with their investment. FaSan posted for about a week leading up to the date he took down the wallet. He posted info to withdrawal zeit. Try to get in contact with him. He did the online wallet. You can't just keep money in an online wallet and hope for the best. Not wise. Plus you can't mint your coins on an online wallet anyway. The crypto world is the wild west right now, anything can happen at a moments notice. And why wouldn't check in the thread from time to time? Even on reddit there was someone who had the same problem, he contacted FaSan and got his coins. So instead of crying about it here, which is what everyone does it seems, maybe go acquire your investment by doing a little messaging, no one is going to hold your hand. |
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stevegreer
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March 23, 2014, 07:25:12 PM |
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So instead of reading what Behold wrote and heading his advice you are going to continue your ranting and make even more enemies here? You claim your coins were stolen? Post a screenshot from the blockchain showing that they were moved from the online wallet into someone else's wallet. Or, you could swallow your pride, admit it was pretty stupid of you to leave that many coins in an online wallet and not checking into the thread from time to time to see what is going on. That shows right there that you have no interest in this community at all and all you want was to make a quick buck. Have fun!
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BeholdTheTrueWake
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March 23, 2014, 07:26:59 PM |
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Steals 15 million Zeit, then launches strawman attacks. Because logical fallacies make convincing arguments (not) and makes up for stealing from people.
Returning our Zeit is simple as bringing the wallet back up. If you can't do that then it's theft. No terms of service can counteract the law, theft is theft.
Law?? hahaha Look ,you lost out, sorry to say that. It wasn't intentional or malicious, it just happened. So since none of us have anything to do with your problem involving FaSan or the online wallet. Try messaging the person who can help you. We've done what we can, the rest is on you. |
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frant100
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March 23, 2014, 07:30:18 PM |
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What is happening with this coin - i have 20 million i have been holding - and all i have seen is the price drop lower and lower...
now at 1 satoshi on Mintpal? i bought into the mission for the coin, i actively read this thread... what am i missing to reinstall my confidence?
It's all a scam. first they stole our Zeit on the exchanges, and then they robbed the wallets on the online wallet. It's the developer and/or friends who are dumping our wallets to fast convert into BTC I just looked through your post history. All you do is ask stupid questions what are either un-answerable (why is this the price so low, why havnen't you got the difficulty to go higher) or spreading FUD. Hence, I'm laughing at your loss. HAHAHAHAHA see! mind if I join you tux hahahahhahahaha |
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Bluemustang
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March 23, 2014, 07:52:16 PM |
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So to add to the others saying theirs arent minting.
3 of 18 of my mintings are grayed out ?s that wont confirm. All say 0 of 4 confirmations. Losing 17% of my mintings is unacceptable.
PS: Also how often is a given coin minted? I keep getting 10k stakes that end up minting around 140 zeit. If minting were daily that should be 25/365 = 0.06849 = approximately 685 coins.
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Anonymousg64
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March 23, 2014, 08:12:23 PM |
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Those getting orphans, its fine, just relax. Your coin-age has not been destroyed, infact it should be part of subsequent PoS blocks you mint.
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Anonymousg64
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March 23, 2014, 08:22:55 PM |
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The driving force behind the price and attention should be what we're achieving to improve civilization and what we're building towards. That's what needs to attract people, not the profit motive. If the profit motive
you misunderstand TZM purpose, we are not here to build a specific model, we are here to spread awareness and advocate a new train of thought that will lead eventually to a public discussion on the matter from the leaders of our current world. You can do things on your own in line with TZM, but at your own risk of focus, time and money. TZM cannot compel people towards specific focuses, they are too many, there is too much complexity to know exactly how to utilize people towards specific action.
I have plans that will lead us to direct action like so many of you want, but such initiatives take time. Im certainly not the only one pushing for direct action.
I think you misunderstand TZM. TZM itself is a profit motive. They accept donations. Both TZM and Venus are for-profit companies, and both are doing nothing in their own ideas. What they're doing is spreading the idea, and making money doing it. They themselves will never actually move into what they say they will. That is the problem with TZM. Also, saying TZM ideals are not for profit is incorrect to. In order for it to be completely non-profit, everyone would have to give everything away for free, not barter. In the end people will barter for profit. There is no way to remove the profit motive. The idea is to move into that kind of system, which TZM itself is failing to do. Their ideals will just make profit in a different sense. In the end, TZM is nothing more than a news channel that has actual real details people need to know. They'll never do more than that. What we need to do is be more than that. We have to bring attention the proper way, and prove we're willing to work towards it. What Zeitcoin itself needs to become in a alt coin that is used for good. Donations to science, donations to charities or fund raising, etc. That's the kind of stuff we should be doing. This is misinformation, idk where you got it from. TZM is not profit motivated, TZM does not accept donations, individuals do, such as Peter Joseph, for his work. The Venus Project is a for profit organization, but they have their reasons. Please go read the Zeitgeist Movement Defined, you do not understand what an NLRBE is. In an access community people dont need to barter, there is no need for profit. TZM is a movement, a collective of activists. If you think educating the masses is not working towards what we advocate, you have no idea what it will take to change things. |
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LionOfNarnia
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March 23, 2014, 08:31:48 PM |
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*Is yet again grateful for the 'ignore' button.* It all sounds "Mummy, mummy, some big boys stole my sweets" to me.  When we get our forum, we need an arsehole filter! |
"I don't always kill & eat things - but when I do it's because I'm a Lion & they were things" |
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Rent_a_Ray
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March 23, 2014, 08:40:40 PM |
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*Is yet again grateful for the 'ignore' button.* It all sounds "Mummy, mummy, some big boys stole my sweets" to me. When we get our forum, we need an arsehole filter! should it setup a forum? no problem... |
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Rent_a_Ray
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March 23, 2014, 08:58:57 PM |
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I was talking about a official forum. Hosted on an a vserver. Nothing like this above... Greets, Ray |
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LionOfNarnia
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March 23, 2014, 09:04:36 PM |
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I was talking about a official forum. Hosted on an a vserver. Nothing like this above... Greets, Ray Our Dev did say this was being worked on. I have confidence that it will be opened to us when it's ready. |
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Ragz
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March 23, 2014, 09:09:22 PM |
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http://imgur.com/x8kCGJZI'm just glad POS is working as intended.....i'm happy, let's just not go below 1 sat
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Rent_a_Ray
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March 23, 2014, 09:14:08 PM |
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I was talking about a official forum. Hosted on an a vserver. Nothing like this above... Greets, Ray Our Dev did say this was being worked on. I have confidence that it will be opened to us when it's ready. OK, thanx for info. Did not talk about that with him... |
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Bluemustang
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March 23, 2014, 09:52:30 PM |
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LionOfNarnia
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March 23, 2014, 10:14:35 PM |
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This was discussed a few pages back, I've made winevirus & zeitcoin aware & requested an update on whether this is 'normal' or not. |
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Anonymousg64
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March 23, 2014, 10:51:37 PM |
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This was discussed a few pages back, I've made winevirus & zeitcoin aware & requested an update on whether this is 'normal' or not. it is normal, you are not losing any coin-age, subsequent blocks will include all txo that meet the minimum coin-age requirement |
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TuxNut
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March 23, 2014, 11:02:14 PM |
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This was discussed a few pages back, I've made winevirus & zeitcoin aware & requested an update on whether this is 'normal' or not. it is normal, you are not losing any coin-age, subsequent blocks will include all txo that meet the minimum coin-age requirement Whilst I can't say with 'confidence' what Anon's saying is accurate, it does make logical sense. As for the forum issue, We do need another thread(s) for project discussion, even the one man movement (aka Anonymousg64) will need some assistance in some form  (sorry dude, just making fun of how we seem to be opposed all the time... I do respect you though). I'll look to start posting on forumco.in, perhaps we can shift some of our 'activists' across to these supporting forums so we can work on some stuff together without interferring with the profit discussions. Someone remind me 2moro, just got home from the pub... no point trying to think or remember anything now EDIT: STOP BUYING @ 2satoshi for another hour please, would like price at 1 when midnight hits.56mins from now. Thankies |
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winevirus
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March 23, 2014, 11:10:51 PM |
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This coin is a scam.
I was robbed 15 million on the online Zeitcoin wallet, no email warning and only a two day period to withdraw.
This is theft, plain and simple.
You mean the online wallet that had nothing to do with the team, that had actually a two week period to withdrawl, and many did. Only a very small few did from what I've see in complaints. But hey, blame the coin. Because that's the easy way to do it right? The lack of intelligence is astounding. |
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