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August 14, 2018, 02:12:03 PM
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mamma mia shame on you italians  Undecided

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/genoa-bridge-collapse/index.html

whats was the problem again?

did mafia and cammora steal and sell 50% of the planned steel when the bridge was under construction?

there are multiple problems here

1. don't steal and sell steel that has been planned and predestined for an installation on a constructionside

2. don't build something when you lack the necessary construction materials for it (steel)

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3.  an old bridge is indicated by the community 10-20 years before it collapses. there are appointed maintenance engineers and inspections for that.

now europe looks worldwide like a bunch of idiots

whats the next step of the genius italian plan   Lips sealed

printing euros and looking for help in germany?

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Abbiamo talmente tanti problemi che ci mancano solo i pirla stranieri a prendere per il culo.

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August 14, 2018, 03:28:30 PM
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shame on you you lazy italians

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/genoa-bridge-collapse/index.html

whats the problem again?

did mafia and camora steal and sell 50% of the planned steel when the bridge was under construction?

there are 2 problems here

1. dont steal and sell steel that is supposed to be used for construction

2. dont build something when you lack the construction materials for it (steel)


Old bridge , It had more than 50years during  they fixed It so many times .
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August 14, 2018, 03:46:21 PM
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shame on you you lazy italians

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/genoa-bridge-collapse/index.html

whats the problem again?

did mafia and camora steal and sell 50% of the planned steel when the bridge was under construction?

there are 2 problems here

1. dont steal and sell steel that is supposed to be used for construction

2. dont build something when you lack the construction materials for it (steel)



3. German retarded fuck's rants, showing no respect for tens of people who lost their lives

You can't really take the moral high ground over this:

https://www.thelocal.de/galleries/news/autobahn-bridge-collapse-bavaria-bayern

Now, was that bridge in Bavaria built by mafia? At least the Genoa bridge lasted for over 50 years...

Having said that, I DO hope there will be a deep investigation and anyone who's found responsible for those deaths will be punished accordingly.

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August 14, 2018, 05:07:48 PM
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shame on you you lazy italians

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/genoa-bridge-collapse/index.html

whats the problem again?

did mafia and camora steal and sell 50% of the planned steel when the bridge was under construction?

there are 2 problems here

1. dont steal and sell steel that is supposed to be used for construction

2. dont build something when you lack the construction materials for it (steel)



3. German retarded fuck's rants, showing no respect for tens of people who lost their lives

You can't really take the moral high ground over this:

https://www.thelocal.de/galleries/news/autobahn-bridge-collapse-bavaria-bayern

Now, was that bridge in Bavaria built by mafia? At least the Genoa bridge lasted for over 50 years...

Having said that, I DO hope there will be a deep investigation and anyone who's found responsible for those deaths will be punished accordingly.

no i have no respect for mafia steeling and selling construction steel, cause thats a reason for people dieing. i was told that by italian construction workers in germany. italian mafia stole lots of steel on a construction side in cologne (subway construction) then a collapse came, considering the current event i thought, i send some useful social memes into italy through this forum myself.

an old bridge is usually indicated by the community and is being recognized as being too old by the authorities before it collapses

that leads us to nr.3 if mafia isn't involved.

people know when a bridge is to old and it gets publicly known, and signed out.

stuff like that doesnt happen just out of nothing, you make the eu look like a third world country.

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August 14, 2018, 06:03:11 PM
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Hello KingScorpio,

my first impulse was to discover what your nationality is, just to say "go to hell" in the right language. (I've some suspects....)

But I preferred to listen to Mark Twain advice:

'Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.'







shame on you you lazy italians

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/genoa-bridge-collapse/index.html

whats the problem again?

did mafia and camora steal and sell 50% of the planned steel when the bridge was under construction?

there are 2 problems here

1. dont steal and sell steel that is supposed to be used for construction

2. dont build something when you lack the construction materials for it (steel)



3. German retarded fuck's rants, showing no respect for tens of people who lost their lives

You can't really take the moral high ground over this:

https://www.thelocal.de/galleries/news/autobahn-bridge-collapse-bavaria-bayern

Now, was that bridge in Bavaria built by mafia? At least the Genoa bridge lasted for over 50 years...

Having said that, I DO hope there will be a deep investigation and anyone who's found responsible for those deaths will be punished accordingly.

no i have no respect for mafia steeling and selling construction steel, cause thats a reason for people dieing. i was told that by italian construction workers in germany. italian mafia stole lots of steel on a construction side in cologne (subway construction) then a collapse came, so i thought i send some useful social memes into italy myself.

an old bridge is usually indicated by the community and is being recognized as being too old by the authorities before it collapses

that leads us to nr.3 if mafia isn't involved.

people know when a bridge is to old and it gets publicly known, and signed out.

stuff like that doesnt happen just out of nothing, you make the eu look like a third world country.

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August 14, 2018, 06:05:37 PM
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no i have no respect for mafia steeling and selling construction steel, cause thats a reason for people dieing. i was told that by italian construction workers in germany.

Where do you live the bridges never collapse?
We can see that the Mafia is everywhere since these things - unfortunately - happen everywhere:

https://ascelibrary.org/doi/10.1061/%28ASCE%29CF.1943-5509.0000884

https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Highway_bridge_in_Minneapolis,_Minnesota,_collapses

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/15/florida-international-university-fiu-bridge-collapse-latest

Shame on you....


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August 14, 2018, 06:10:39 PM
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Al di là del rispondere al crucco deficiente, ammetto che siamo tutti a dir poco scioccati:

non abito più in Italia da tempo, ma quel maledetto ponte è a 200 metri dalla casa in cui sono cresciuto e, detto per inciso, l'ho visto costruire quando ero alle elementari (sono vecchio...)

Ha sempre creato molti dubbi sulla sua stabilità, è stato in "manutenzione straordinaria" dal giorno dell'inaugurazione, ha subito non so quanti interventi di "consolidamento", e mi rode il culo dover dare ragione al crucco quando dice che le autorità avrebbero dovuto intervenire PRIMA che si arrivasse al crollo, tanto più che in questo caso nessuno può parlare di fatalità, visto che i segnali c'erano tutti e gli allarmi dati più volte.

Vediamo cos'altro crollerà prossimamente a causa del menefreghismo e dell'incuria.

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August 14, 2018, 06:15:57 PM
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no i have no respect for mafia steeling and selling construction steel, cause thats a reason for people dieing. i was told that by italian construction workers in germany.

Where do you live the bridges never collapse?
We can see that the Mafia is everywhere since these things - unfortunately - happen everywhere:

https://ascelibrary.org/doi/10.1061/%28ASCE%29CF.1943-5509.0000884

https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Highway_bridge_in_Minneapolis,_Minnesota,_collapses

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/15/florida-international-university-fiu-bridge-collapse-latest

Shame on you....





bridges don't just collapse in organised developed nations, they are supposed to be inspected every year by maintenance engineers. and be torn down before they could collapse.

but since this is italy the land where the mafia steals steel from the construction sides and is exporting that business to rest of europe. this event is a good ocasion sending some social memes.

now lets see about the bridge maintenance routine. if mafia didnt stole the steel during the construction next might be -> no functional maintenance inspections or even worse -> no maintenance inspections at all.

i really wasn't surprised that this happened in italy. would have been strange to see that happening in germany, sweeden or england.....

but what comes next? don't you have 50% youth joblessness and refugees? why can't you use those resources to inspect your bridges then, build them properly or prevent mafia to steal construction materials?

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August 14, 2018, 06:34:24 PM
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Vediamo cos'altro crollerà prossimamente a causa del menefreghismo e dell'incuria.

Esatto, altro che mafia!

Non ho la minima idea di cosa sia successo a quel ponte ma lavoro in edilizia da anni e ormai so come vengono progettati ed eseguiti i lavori!
Altro che mafia, voi non avete la minima idea della noncuranza di amministratori, progettisti e costruttori (dall'impresario al manovale)
Sopratutto da quando è arrivata la crisi voi non avete idea di cosa si sia costretti a fare in cantiere (o comunque quello che ti chiedono perchè io mi rifiuto).
Progetti incompleti e approssimativi, tecnici incompetenti e negligenti, imprese che cercano ogni stratagemma per subappaltare lavori per speculare sui costi (sebbene ci sia il limite del 30% sull'importo dei lavori), operai che spesso non sono nemmeno in grado di eseguire gli elaborati o che neanche ti capiscono perchè non parlano italiano!

La mafia non centra nulla, che ci siano speculazioni sull'acciaio è vero ma non di certo sulla qualità ma sulla quantità (ci sono mille modi) e qui è colpa anche delle direzioni lavori che non sono in grado di controllare

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August 14, 2018, 06:35:33 PM
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no i have no respect for mafia steeling and selling construction steel, cause thats a reason for people dieing. i was told that by italian construction workers in germany.

Where do you live the bridges never collapse?
We can see that the Mafia is everywhere since these things - unfortunately - happen everywhere:

https://ascelibrary.org/doi/10.1061/%28ASCE%29CF.1943-5509.0000884

https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Highway_bridge_in_Minneapolis,_Minnesota,_collapses

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/15/florida-international-university-fiu-bridge-collapse-latest

Shame on you....





bridges don't just collapse in organised developed nations, they are supposed to be inspected every year by maintenance engineers. and be torn down before they could collapse.

but since this is italy the land where the mafia steals steel from the construction sides and is exporting that business to rest of europe. this event is a good ocasion sending some social memes.

now lets see about the bridge maintenance routine. if mafia didnt stole the steel during the construction next might be -> no functional maintenance inspections or even worse -> no maintenance inspections at all.

i really wasn't surprised that this happened in italy. would have been strange to see that happening in germany, sweeden or england.....

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August 14, 2018, 06:40:35 PM
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shame on you you lazy italians

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/genoa-bridge-collapse/index.html

whats the problem again?

did mafia and camora steal and sell 50% of the planned steel when the bridge was under construction?

there are 2 problems here

1. dont steal and sell steel that is supposed to be used for construction

2. dont build something when you lack the construction materials for it (steel)



3. German retarded fuck's rants, showing no respect for tens of people who lost their lives

You can't really take the moral high ground over this:

https://www.thelocal.de/galleries/news/autobahn-bridge-collapse-bavaria-bayern

Now, was that bridge in Bavaria built by mafia? At least the Genoa bridge lasted for over 50 years...

Having said that, I DO hope there will be a deep investigation and anyone who's found responsible for those deaths will be punished accordingly.

no i have no respect for mafia steeling and selling construction steel, cause thats a reason for people dieing. i was told that by italian construction workers in germany. italian mafia stole lots of steel on a construction side in cologne (subway construction) then a collapse came, considering the current event i thought, i send some useful social memes into italy through this forum myself.

an old bridge is usually indicated by the community and is being recognized as being too old by the authorities before it collapses

that leads us to nr.3 if mafia isn't involved.

people know when a bridge is to old and it gets publicly known, and signed out.

stuff like that doesnt happen just out of nothing, you make the eu look like a third world country.

no with your idiotic trolling you keep lacking respect to the victims, who had nothing to do with mafia, until proven otherwise
and you keep talking about something you show your complete ignorance of, with your wild claims on supposed involvement of mafia in the construction of that bridge back in the '60s.
Besides, quoting the racist anti-Italian "Der Spiegel" is like quoting Italian newspaper "Libero" about African immigrants. So whenever a disaster happens in Germany, they're probably well trained to search for some Italian to lay the blame of Roll Eyes

Now back to the Genoa bridge, there were known issues and upgrade works were scheduled on the next coming months, which is obviously too late... Then about any responsibility for that delay, read again the last line in my previous message

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August 14, 2018, 06:52:43 PM
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shame on you you lazy italians

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/genoa-bridge-collapse/index.html

whats the problem again?

did mafia and camora steal and sell 50% of the planned steel when the bridge was under construction?

there are 2 problems here

1. dont steal and sell steel that is supposed to be used for construction

2. dont build something when you lack the construction materials for it (steel)



3. German retarded fuck's rants, showing no respect for tens of people who lost their lives

You can't really take the moral high ground over this:

https://www.thelocal.de/galleries/news/autobahn-bridge-collapse-bavaria-bayern

Now, was that bridge in Bavaria built by mafia? At least the Genoa bridge lasted for over 50 years...

Having said that, I DO hope there will be a deep investigation and anyone who's found responsible for those deaths will be punished accordingly.

no i have no respect for mafia steeling and selling construction steel, cause thats a reason for people dieing. i was told that by italian construction workers in germany. italian mafia stole lots of steel on a construction side in cologne (subway construction) then a collapse came, considering the current event i thought, i send some useful social memes into italy through this forum myself.

an old bridge is usually indicated by the community and is being recognized as being too old by the authorities before it collapses

that leads us to nr.3 if mafia isn't involved.

people know when a bridge is to old and it gets publicly known, and signed out.

stuff like that doesnt happen just out of nothing, you make the eu look like a third world country.

no with your idiotic trolling you keep lacking respect to the victims, who had nothing to do with mafia, until proven otherwise
and you keep talking about something you show your complete ignorance of, with your wild claims on supposed involvement of mafia in the construction of that bridge back in the '60.
Besides, quoting the racist anti-Italian "Der Spiegel" is like quoting Italian newspaper "Libero" about African immigrants. So whenever a disaster happens in Germany, they're probably well trained to search for some Italian to lay the blame of Roll Eyes

Now back to the Genoa bridge, there were known issues and upgrade works were scheduled on the next coming months, which is obviously too late... Then about any responsibility for that delay, read again the last line in my previous message

pah i never trolled i packed it initially friendly/funny because i didnt even knew that anyone died when i opened this topic, (even cnn updated its content). i have just read "that a bridge in italy collapsed" and i instantly thought from my own exericenses regarding construction in italy -> mafia and construction steel theft.

now knowing that people died its even more embarassing.

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pah i never trolled i packed it initially friendly/funny because i didnt even knew that anyone died when i opened this topic, (even cnn updated its content). i have just read "that a bridge in italy collapsed" and i instantly thought from my own exericenses -> mafia and construction steel theft.

yeah a bridge in Italy collapsed, what a funny story!
So I'll leave you with yet another cult quote to strengthen your racist stereotypes of Italians:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv1LqFCuwPk

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August 14, 2018, 07:47:30 PM
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shame on you you lazy italians

https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/genoa-bridge-collapse/index.html

whats the problem again?

did mafia and camora steal and sell 50% of the planned steel when the bridge was under construction?

there are 2 problems here

1. dont steal and sell steel that is supposed to be used for construction

2. dont build something when you lack the construction materials for it (steel)



3. German retarded fuck's rants, showing no respect for tens of people who lost their lives

You can't really take the moral high ground over this:

https://www.thelocal.de/galleries/news/autobahn-bridge-collapse-bavaria-bayern

Now, was that bridge in Bavaria built by mafia? At least the Genoa bridge lasted for over 50 years...

Having said that, I DO hope there will be a deep investigation and anyone who's found responsible for those deaths will be punished accordingly.

i had no idea people died when i wrote it, my newssource just told something from a bridge collapsed in italy at the moment when i wrote it, now its even worse.

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pah i never trolled i packed it initially friendly/funny because i didnt even knew that anyone died when i opened this topic, (even cnn updated its content). i have just read "that a bridge in italy collapsed" and i instantly thought from my own exericenses -> mafia and construction steel theft.

yeah a bridge in Italy collapsed, what a funny story!
So I'll leave you with yet another cult quote to strengthen your racist stereotypes of Italians:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv1LqFCuwPk

people are sometimes pissed of if you point out their mistakes without seriousness, because they want their mistakes explained differently

people are sometimes pissed of if you point out their mistakes with jokes. because they want their mistakes explained differently

people are sometimes pissed of if you point out their mistakes friendly,  because they want their mistakes explained differently

i have no time guessing around all the time, what person xyz likes at moment abc.

this topic is supposed to be painful information that are supposed to help.

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@Moderatore: non dico di cancellare il topic, per evitare accuse di attacco alla libertà di espressione, ma si può almeno spostare questa merda in OT?
Grazie

@OP: We're not so idiot here to buy the bullshit you're trying to sell as "painful [yet helpful] information": your post was never meant to "help", rather to offend Italian people by a number of disgraceful racist cliches on mafia, unemployment and laziness, etc.
We don't need your "help" to spot our supposed mistakes, we can do it on our own, so deal with those you make in Germany, in the first place.

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@Moderatore: non dico di cancellare il topic, per evitare accuse di attacco alla libertà di espressione, ma si può almeno spostare questa merda in OT?
Grazie

@OP: We're not so idiot here to buy the bullshit you're trying to sell as "painful [yet helpful] information"

Who are you to speak for all`?

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your post was never meant to "help", rather to offend Italian people by a number of disgraceful racist cliches on mafia, unemployment and laziness, etc.

thats not true.

it was meant to point ot the bridge collapse with ordinary problems known when it comes to construction in italy. and i delivered those as someone from abroad, with his personal experiences.

to be precise:

this was a transfer of a meme.

memes are same like genes of an organism but they are information packaged within civilisations (memories) that keep the structure of a society to keep their form. making them indeed basic pieces of a bigger structure. same like genes for organisms.

that fact that you are insulted like a child of it.

is another embarassment. next to the collapsed bridge and the neverending theft of steal on construction sides. in italy. by organised criminals

i leave you alone with these meme to enrich your life in italy hopefully positve.

if i wouldn't have transfered this meme, because i simply felt doing it. maybe someone from napoli who will read this soon. might become uncareful and builds his swimming pool this summer without enough steel. because the cammora has stolen it.

who knows thats how memes work. therefore you have to be tolerant about them, as they are offensive for some, but helpful and reminding for others.

now good luck rebuilding that bridge, will take years and you will have to build a huge construction side fence this time, that there won't be any steelremoved.....

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@Moderatore: non dico di cancellare il topic, per evitare accuse di attacco alla libertà di espressione, ma si può almeno spostare questa merda in OT?
Grazie

@OP: We're not so idiot here to buy the bullshit you're trying to sell as "painful [yet helpful] information"

Who are you to speak for all`?

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your post was never meant to "help", rather to offend Italian people by a number of disgraceful racist cliches on mafia, unemployment and laziness, etc.

thats not true.

it was meant to point ot the bridge collapse with ordinary problems known when it comes to construction in italy. and i delivered those as someone from abroad, with his personal experiences.

to be precise:

this was a transfer of a meme.

memes are same like genes of an organism but they are information packaged within civilisations (memories) that keep the structure of a society to keep their form. making them indeed basic pieces of a bigger structure. same like genes for organisms.

that fact that you are insulted like a child of it.

is another embarassment. next to the collapsed bridge and the neverending theft of steal on construction sides. in italy. by organised criminals

i leave you alone with these meme to enrich your life in italy hopefully positve.

That would be the first good news since the very opening of this pointless topic. All the above nonsense about memes just confirms you've been here to no but troll and probably were not worth replying in the first place.
I'm rather confident I can talk for other people in this section too, as I know the Italian community very well being here for some 5 years. So I feel quite safe in saying we won't miss you at all

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August 14, 2018, 08:59:42 PM
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Who are you to speak for all`?

Non val nemmeno la pena risponderti in inglese.
Forse non ti è chiaro il fatto che sono morte tante persone.

Tornatene a bere birra al pub.
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