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August 28, 2018, 07:50:28 AM
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You and only you have any impact on you're trading decisions. The more emotional you're getting the less chance you'll finish well rewared. You did not lose money until you didn't sell with a loss.

It's funny to think that there's some people believe that crypto market is a quick rich scheme that once you enter here it will be in favor from what you desire that which make them to loss early.

Yes the market is full of manipulations and if you don't know how to ride on it you'll be an empty hand otherwise become insane from your losses. Better yet be used to all these volatility and embrace every flaws of the market and you'll realize that panic won't lead us anywhere.

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August 28, 2018, 08:00:37 AM
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In my worldview, I have never blamed the market for thinking because I know the dangers of the investment industry and I know what I am doing!

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August 28, 2018, 08:11:24 AM
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Yes, all markets are innocent, people must think about how to be patient and not rush to sell assets at low prices. because it's wrong to buy assets at a rising and selling price at a low price. Lol Grin
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August 29, 2018, 09:40:23 AM
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I too, agree with you on this. a person will not suffer any loss unless and until he liquidates his investments. So if at any time your investments are running in loss, you should wait and hold your investments until the price of your coin rises. What most of the people do is sell their investments out of panic and then blame the market for their losses. We should understand that if our coin has a potential then it will definitely rise back.
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August 29, 2018, 09:45:41 AM
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It is difficult to determine the exact time when to start and end. But many people can evaluate it by setting the milestones to achieve and when achieved will do something. I often decide to buy when it falls and sell when it starts to rise again.
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August 29, 2018, 09:56:16 AM
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It pretty troubling to hear people lament day in day out about how the recent market is making then incur significant lost.
Actually, i think that is total nonsensical. There is no lost without cash out during trading. You determine when to loss or make money, not the market.

Take a closer look at this:
If i held 0.1 etheruem during may 2018, when ethereum price was around 700$, it means i had 70$ as at then. But now (August) that etheruem price is at 256$, my 0.1 ether is currently worth 25.6$.

An anxious person will see this and get too scared, and so will decide to go ahead and sell his 0.1 ether on exchange for something like 24$... Obviously this person has incurred significant loss.

However, if i decide to keep my 0.1 ether during this red season and wait till green season where ethereum price shoot to 800+$, I surely will imagine myself making some profit.

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Regardless how much of Bitcoin, Ethereum or any other Altcoin you possess, You determine when to loss money or make profit. Stop blaming the market.

Share below your opinion.

Nice explanation, but don't you think that it's a bit weird? You need to conduct your own analysis of the market first and think about where and when to stop your trades. If you are a poosition trader, you need to do this as well. When the price is negative for you for more than 100%, I don't this it is a good idea and a good strategy to follow. I think it is better to close according to your risk management and then to reopen trades once you feel that the market is going to reverse. Moreover, you can use margin trading opportunities nowaday and sell the currency pair and earn on short positions as well.
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August 29, 2018, 10:01:39 AM
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You and only you have any impact on you're trading decisions. The more emotional you're getting the less chance you'll finish well rewared. You did not lose money until you didn't sell with a loss.

It's funny to think that there's some people believe that crypto market is a quick rich scheme that once you enter here it will be in favor from what you desire that which make them to loss early.

Yes the market is full of manipulations and if you don't know how to ride on it you'll be an empty hand otherwise become insane from your losses. Better yet be used to all these volatility and embrace every flaws of the market and you'll realize that panic won't lead us anywhere.

I find this funny me too. Here you need to think a lot, to have a strategy and a system I would say that includes not only your own analysis, but also your risk and money management. Yep, this market allows you to gain XXXXXXXXs, but the risks work here the same.
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August 29, 2018, 04:09:20 PM
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You and only you have any impact on you're trading decisions. The more emotional you're getting the less chance you'll finish well rewared. You did not lose money until you didn't sell with a loss.

It's funny to think that there's some people believe that crypto market is a quick rich scheme that once you enter here it will be in favor from what you desire that which make them to loss early.

Yes the market is full of manipulations and if you don't know how to ride on it you'll be an empty hand otherwise become insane from your losses. Better yet be used to all these volatility and embrace every flaws of the market and you'll realize that panic won't lead us anywhere.

I find this funny me too. Here you need to think a lot, to have a strategy and a system I would say that includes not only your own analysis, but also your risk and money management. Yep, this market allows you to gain XXXXXXXXs, but the risks work here the same.

Well i agree though sometimes it's hard not to blame the market especially when you feel that the movement goes against what you prepared for. Frustrations will be part if your trading life every once and a while.

 
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August 30, 2018, 01:10:19 PM
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I think every traders will blame the market if they see their investment value decrease and this is human nature that when the market down then people will being panic and decide to cut loss and if we see the current situations sometimes people will made wrong decission and not easy to wait patiently until the price recover and probably only the particular people who can able to do so

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August 30, 2018, 01:46:20 PM
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I think every traders will blame the market if they see their investment value decrease and this is human nature that when the market down then people will being panic and decide to cut loss and if we see the current situations sometimes people will made wrong decission and not easy to wait patiently until the price recover and probably only the particular people who can able to do so
The continuous varying of the market is one factor also that's why we ended up losing our money or our coins but I believe that we have a control to our every decision and every capital that we would going to used and what we can afford to lose. However you can't determine exactly when it gonna happen that's why we/you should be aware anytime.

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August 30, 2018, 03:59:14 PM
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I think every traders will blame the market if they see their investment value decrease and this is human nature that when the market down then people will being panic and decide to cut loss and if we see the current situations sometimes people will made wrong decission and not easy to wait patiently until the price recover and probably only the particular people who can able to do so
Indeed, most of the traders blame the market, because it's their natural aspect. I guess they blame the market, because it's really bearish and hard to predict right now, which block their way to their profit, but for me, it's the responsibility of the trader whether he lose or gain in trading, because he's the one who handle his own money, and also it's their responsibility if they didn't become patient enough.









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August 30, 2018, 04:18:29 PM
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That is nice analysis of the market. This is very good way of putting the market and telling one that how they may loose the money because of their own mistakes and not the market. To be frank this is the thing which is also consider as the reason for panic selling and situation like FOMO! People forget that market once goes down it also starts pulling back itself and sets itself to initial pricing. I guess people must consider this market as positive one all the time. We can say that person who knows this one very well will always have its assets ever growing.

 
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August 30, 2018, 05:58:41 PM
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You and only you have any impact on you're trading decisions. The more emotional you're getting the less chance you'll finish well rewared. You did not lose money until you didn't sell with a loss.

It's funny to think that there's some people believe that crypto market is a quick rich scheme that once you enter here it will be in favor from what you desire that which make them to loss early.

Yes the market is full of manipulations and if you don't know how to ride on it you'll be an empty hand otherwise become insane from your losses. Better yet be used to all these volatility and embrace every flaws of the market and you'll realize that panic won't lead us anywhere.

I find this funny me too. Here you need to think a lot, to have a strategy and a system I would say that includes not only your own analysis, but also your risk and money management. Yep, this market allows you to gain XXXXXXXXs, but the risks work here the same.

Well i agree though sometimes it's hard not to blame the market especially when you feel that the movement goes against what you prepared for. Frustrations will be part if your trading life every once and a while.
Frustrations is always been part since we do have emotions which will really get upset or blaming someone or something when the thing you do expect is not going on what you expect.
Blaming cant really be avoided and this is always been part of the stress of each trader or investor.


I think every traders will blame the market if they see their investment value decrease and this is human nature that when the market down then people will being panic and decide to cut loss and if we see the current situations sometimes people will made wrong decission and not easy to wait patiently until the price recover and probably only the particular people who can able to do so
Human nature is one of the reasons and theres no doubt on that but a certain person do have experience and a strong discipline on how he would react on such scenario will be a different thing.

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August 30, 2018, 06:05:30 PM
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An anxious person will see this and get too scared, and so will decide to go ahead and sell his 0.1 ether on exchange for something like 24$... Obviously this person has incurred significant loss.
Nope, that person will only incur a loss when he sold his ETH holding lesser than the price he bought, but if he sell his ETH holdings above the price for what he pay for it in past then he still earned something from it, lost opportunity cannot really be counted as a loss. But the way to solve this is o course not to miss the next opportunity that will come for you if you have the chance to go long then go for it and if your have the chance to short ETH then don't even think about it. There are really many ways to come out of this even thought you are still holding it at a loss.
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August 30, 2018, 08:39:57 PM
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The only problem with your statement, is that you call it trading. This is not trading, this is investing. Trading is to trade the market going up or down, not to hold and wait for god knows how long until you break even or make some profits. Of course, I am not saying this strategy is wrong, it is just not trading.
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August 31, 2018, 02:40:43 AM
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It pretty troubling to hear people lament day in day out about how the recent market is making then incur significant lost.
Actually, i think that is total nonsensical. There is no lost without cash out during trading. You determine when to loss or make money, not the market.

Take a closer look at this:
If i held 0.1 etheruem during may 2018, when ethereum price was around 700$, it means i had 70$ as at then. But now (August) that etheruem price is at 256$, my 0.1 ether is currently worth 25.6$.

An anxious person will see this and get too scared, and so will decide to go ahead and sell his 0.1 ether on exchange for something like 24$... Obviously this person has incurred significant loss.

However, if i decide to keep my 0.1 ether during this red season and wait till green season where ethereum price shoot to 800+$, I surely will imagine myself making some profit.

Prompt:
Regardless how much of Bitcoin, Ethereum or any other Altcoin you possess, You determine when to loss money or make profit. Stop blaming the market.

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You are right, but people do that so they can avoid to take responsibility for their actions, after all no one makes them trade or invest in this market, they are the ones that took that decision, and what is more interesting than anything is that when everything goes right and they earn money then they want to get all the credit for the profits that they got but as soon as that is not the case and they get losses they do not accept that responsibility and blame the market for it.
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August 31, 2018, 07:50:54 AM
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I agree that the only action taht makes us losing money because we decide to sell the coin, but sometimes its inevitable, when we analyse the coin going to go down deeper then the wise step will be to sell the coin and buy back, if the coin is strong coin then the possibility of bouncing back is high, but if the coin is infamous coin then sometime we need to cutloss to prevent losing more money
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August 31, 2018, 04:03:27 PM
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In my worldview, I have never blamed the market for thinking because I know the dangers of the investment industry and I know what I am doing!
That is for someone like you who already did all the necessary research and has gotten enough knowledge to understand the nature of the market before even investing at all.

For now, what a lot of people are after is what has happened to those who have been holding since like 2010 and I tend to wonder how someone would be opting in a few months back and wishing they could be as rich as those who have been around for about 8 years or thereabout. If they end up panicking and selling at loss rather than looking at the long term, then, that is simply their own cup of coffee.
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August 31, 2018, 05:20:49 PM
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Honestly reflecting on the heading of the thread,  there is no better truth about trading and investing in cryptocurrency,  the responsibility of making profit or losses rest squarely at the hand of traders and investors and that is the gospel truth!

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August 31, 2018, 05:56:29 PM
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Prompt:
Regardless how much of Bitcoin, Ethereum or any other Altcoin you possess, You determine when to loss money or make profit. Stop blaming the market.

Share below your opinion.

People is easy to be controlled, their fears actually, the proof there's is still exist people which still trust on the way where the market will go by following on the trading signal, signal told to buy, they buy. and sinyal told to sell, they sell. its because they fears about loss, and more people were late to following in, the impact is, its really cause great loss.

So my suggest is, never following on signal, if you following them its just same as you make your own path to loss

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