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August 17, 2018, 12:04:49 PM
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I saw all my hard work from doing bounties in 2017 go down the drain this year. My portfolio has gone down 99.4% so I had to do something to survive this terrible ordeal.

1. I switched this week from mainly doing just bounties and holding coins to day trading as a day job, doing some bounties and also long-term holding. I can't afford anymore to live from bounties alone as I don't get paid regularly anymore and some bounties take forever to pay or don't pay at all, so this is not income I can rely upon anymore to pay my bills, mortgage, food etc.

2. I day trade half my portfolio that is left. I take my daily wage out for living costs first from my profits. Then if I make more profit I leave it in Bitcoin and Tether. The rest of the bag I continue trading. At the end of each trading month, I will take out my wages in order to live and survive. The rest of the profits I will grow in three ways, USD, BTC and altcoins of my choice for long-term gains. 

3. In between trading, depending on the time I have I will do my signature campaign and any other bounties I may have time for, like a blog review or a video. From now on I regard bounties as EXTRA INCOME, this way I don't get stressed on when I will get paid because in the last few months I have become very stressed.

4. This way I am ready for all market conditions and am still involved full time in Crypto without putting my home and family at risk. I also found a good way to trade and so far my profit in 2 days has exceeded my expectations. I only need to earn 50 dollars a day to survive and pay all my bills, food and mortgage, but after that, it is pure profit.

5. I hope none of you give up in crypto and remember if you day trade don't fomo ro panic, just look at your bottom line and trade calmly. Let the market talk to you.

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August 17, 2018, 12:16:20 PM
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all that you have said is true, the bounty can no longer be the main job or the main income for family and daily needs. we need a new strategy or plan to cover all that and I really agree with the trade that you say, but it doesn't seem as easy as we think. because a trade requires the right mental and analysis, to produce a choice that gives profit. by the way, what exchange is your favorite?
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August 17, 2018, 12:43:48 PM
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So, it seems crypto is already your full-time job.  You lucky because you already have income from bounties to use for trading.  I plan to do that, collecting money from bounties then trading and invest but a little too late I think.  Market is down and account rank-up is way too hard, almost impossible.  Good luck to your strategy!
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August 17, 2018, 12:51:26 PM
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If your using this money to pay your bills and food why not just get a regular job?  Unless your economy is like Venezuela you would be much better working a normal stable job in the real world.  Crypto has a lot of luck involved so the risk may be worth it but you will most likely end up in a dire situation.
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August 17, 2018, 12:55:41 PM
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for me, there was a strategy from your list that makes me scared to see that. I'm not sure doing a daily trade on this bearish trend. I just try to do long-term trade. Just try to anticipate another big bearish trend and waiting for the dip. This really works for me personally. but everyone should do a lot of efforts to survive in this trend.

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August 17, 2018, 02:34:23 PM
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99.4%!? Holy shit. That's what doing nothing but bounties gets you I suppose. You should have sold all the trash bounty tokens immediately for BTC, and you would be in a much better place.

Also, as mentioned above, pretty much any real world job pays better than trash coin bounties.

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August 17, 2018, 02:45:18 PM
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Based on the amount you lost and your rank and the bounties you got. I'm assuming you earned a lot of money from bounties from the past year so even when losing a big portion of your portfolio it is still enough to day trade and earn more than $50 a day. Good job for you. These days, I do a bounty for a 2 - 3 months. I couldn't earn that $50 yet because of how unfair the market is and because of the scams and frauds that are getting a little bit out of hand. Also, I commend you for doing a great job despite the harsh bearish market we are experiencing today. Good job on that!
I daily traded sometimes and I can't earn that much without losing the same amount on the next day.

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August 17, 2018, 05:25:06 PM
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Sounds like a good plan. I can't imagine being involved full time in crypto. For me this is still a side gig. I'm curious, what trading pairs do you use to day trade and do you use any particular indicators? I don't know if it is possible to make profit all the time, day in day out but I wish you good luck.
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August 17, 2018, 05:35:53 PM
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Thank God, Bear Market make you realize that you should get a real Job. Bounties should be hobby/part time income but should not be method of living.
Anyway I become just curious how much $USD you are making in bounties.


  You lucky because you already have income from bounties to use for trading.  I plan to do that, collecting money from bounties then trading and invest but a little too late I think.  Market is down and account rank-up is way too hard, almost impossible.  Good luck to your strategy!

Do you think trading is a free money? You have no idea how badly trading can burn  sometimes leaving everybody clueless and dumb.

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August 17, 2018, 06:48:26 PM
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Crypto full time is not bad, it is a convenient strategy that requires only proper planning.

Day trading is good, but it is not everybody's strategy, as an individual, you need to figure out what works for you, what favors your time schedule.

And one of the most important factors is information, don't get fomoed or fud when you are participating in bounty programs , then you are abit save with your bounty rewards.
Always identify whatever works for you, its important to survive every bearish market.

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August 17, 2018, 09:45:26 PM
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That's good strategy. But maybe you should consider to leave some of your tokens alone, especially those that are invested in some good projects, that have the potential to moon soon. And when they do, you take out lets say 2/3 and leave the rest for future mooning.

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August 17, 2018, 10:01:56 PM
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I'm absolutely agree with you. Today it's difficult to live only for bounties. Tokens cost very small. Only for long term.
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August 17, 2018, 10:08:18 PM
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Recent months have been terrible, infact nightmare for altcoin investors and holders, we have seen alts going 10x down from their high marks and ico projects are also 10x down from ico value, although everyone is waiting for bulls to be back anxiously i like your proactive approach to take out something by day trading but i think day trading is also not for everyone and most of people will get trapped and make losses there.

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August 18, 2018, 02:11:26 AM
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In my opinion, daily trading can indeed be learned if we have full time in this field. But I also believe that the amount of capital will greatly determine the success we get the target we want. And the most important variable is, it might be more effective when done when the trend is rising as it is today.
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August 18, 2018, 02:59:10 AM
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Yes, I think there are many ways to survive, and if daily trading is the best place, then why not. It may have principles that are contrary to longterm investment, but everyone has more or less the same goal. But the big profit target will always require balanced capital, so maybe not everyone will be able to produce the same amount.
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August 18, 2018, 03:14:24 AM
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I think it's easier to trade when the market is in good condition in these two or three days. Maybe your strategy will be tested when the market has a direction we don't want. But of course everyone can take the opportunity, because doing something we believe is more important than what we get.
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August 18, 2018, 03:24:28 AM
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very valuable information. Beforehand thank you for you share this strategy. I think it is indeed a good idea to be able to survive we have strategies respectively. Given this crypto also like bubble, which could burst and also rises at any time.

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August 18, 2018, 03:37:46 AM
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Nice insight to your strategy, it takes great courage not to panic, when you see your portfolio went down by 99.4%,
This bearish market is just a phase, most of our bounty labour will soon pay off. The question is are ready to wait because it's hard to tell when the market will bounce back.
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August 18, 2018, 05:09:52 AM
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I saw all my hard work from doing bounties in 2017 go down the drain this year. My portfolio has gone down 99.4% so I had to do something to survive this terrible ordeal.

i'm sorry but if you have actually lost 99.4% of your investment then you can't survive anything because you are already dead!
for example if you have invested $10,000 now you have only $60 left! that is called being bankrupt...

i also don't understand your "strategy" because you are claiming to have lost nearly all of your money because you did a "long term hold" but then in your strategy you say you are still choosing altcoins for long term holding!
so from what i see, you are making the same mistake again but now you have added day trading profit to your overall strategy.

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August 18, 2018, 05:13:22 AM
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Well Yes, we all need to adjust and adopt on what kind of market we are facing in. For us to survive we need to revise our plan and look for a better one for us to be able to gain in this large deep.
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For unexperienced people, trading is a dangerous game as it can make your capital zero anytime if you couldn't do trades professionally.
Right now you are on bottom, you can still survive to top by taking advices from expert traders
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August 18, 2018, 07:37:31 AM
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the best way to survive in this market (not just the bear market now but generally even during the bull markets aka pumps) is to day trade altcoins. in my experience the biggest amount of profit that any altcoin can give you is when you only get involved with it for a short time and the biggest loss that it can give you is when you get involved with it in long term aka when you hold it.

what you need to do is to modify your strategy and while doing that eliminate the mistakes you previously made and choose a different route so that you don't make the same mistakes again.

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August 18, 2018, 07:46:15 AM
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in our lives we must have principles especially principles in managing finances. The principle of working is a role model in living without having to think again ... in my opinion you have good principles
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August 18, 2018, 08:13:36 AM
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Yes you're right. The way to always survive from any kind of participation in crypto is based on the strategy. Our last strategy may not fit to this recent condition. Therefore, evaluating our strategy and then analysing the best one should be conducted. It is a note for me actually based on your information.

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Currently, the Cryptocurrency is not what it was a year or two ago. Therefore, you need to act differently, you need to understand the current market of crypto currency and come up with an action plan.
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August 18, 2018, 10:45:01 AM
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Currently, the Cryptocurrency is not what it was a year or two ago. Therefore, you need to act differently, you need to understand the current market of crypto currency and come up with an action plan.

in altcoin market you should always be aware of the trends that each single coin has. it is always changing so talking about it in a yearly fashion is just wrong. the better time frame is a daily one and in some cases hourly changes is more suitable since that is how the pumps happen.

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August 18, 2018, 11:05:32 AM
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Some time ago I already began to exclusively trade on cryptocurrencies, I participate in bounty, because it is still profitable, and some campaigns are really useful.
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August 18, 2018, 11:07:45 AM
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I think that there should be more than one source of income. you can do a bounty, but it will give a lot if you put a lot of effort. there are some people who have turned bounty into a business. They hire students to write posts for a cheap price.
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August 18, 2018, 11:10:42 AM
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Yes we can change our strategy but i don't agree that you need to sell your coins in drops and use that for day trading then the better for me is to add or buy again and still hold or spend some money also in day trading that you want to do OP because if you sell already your coins like you do OP you will lose by that so i don't recommend that and in ICO i think risk some if you already earn in trading then i'm sure btc will grow again like dec 2017 just wait

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August 18, 2018, 01:55:21 PM
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I agree that you wrote, indeed, the time is running out and the conditions are changing, so now one can not consider the bounty a permanent income, although it is necessary to participate in them, it is developing the cryptocurrency sector
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August 18, 2018, 02:00:54 PM
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Yes, recently it is worth changing the nature of activities in the field of cryptocurrencies. I think now it is necessary to pay attention to long-term investments.
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August 18, 2018, 02:10:05 PM
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A tremendous advice from a real trader indeed. That really is a good point and i am also thinking the same thing. I just realized that holding for long term will minimize the potential of your daily earnings to you better trade those altcoins from bounties for a profit then trade half of the profit while the other half will be converted to fiat which will go to the bank. We have to save those fiat money for buy backs in time like this where altcoins reached another all time low.

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August 18, 2018, 02:13:47 PM
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I agree with your strategy in the bear market, but can we calmly think about whether it would be more appropriate to do a more stable job and invest extra money in Bitcoin than to spend too much energy and time in an uncertain bear market?
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August 18, 2018, 03:14:30 PM
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I can see you  already regret why you  haven't dumped the tokens you got last January, if you had you  probably wouldn't be thinking of when the campaigns today to pay.  Some of the  campaigns these days  pay  after several months which is not the kind back 2016-2017. I think they are doing this now because they are trying to lessen  some dumpers. But I  think after this ETF approved,  the market will be in the  bull market. That is probably the  time you get paid.

You'll survive the bear market. Its best to just work  on jobsites while  doing bounties.

 
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August 18, 2018, 05:25:19 PM
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I absolutely agree with what you wrote. Currently I spend a lot of time studying the market, however, while it's at the bottom, but it's soon, I believe, will end.
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August 18, 2018, 05:27:30 PM
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Yes indeed a new strategy might be a good help for you my friend and also me as well because we cannot depend on the bounty anymore we needed to find alternatives to survive of thw bear market as well so changing a strategy is a good way too
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August 20, 2018, 01:56:31 AM
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Well, maybe the benefit of a person who has full time in this field is that he can trade daily, even though we can still make automatic buying and selling. And if you do it successfully, maybe someone else can use the same method, even though daily trading is the most difficult thing to do.
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August 20, 2018, 02:15:49 AM
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I have lost a lot, really want to give up
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August 20, 2018, 02:18:47 AM
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I wish you well in your new strategy, i know how you feel because my friend who are in bounty before me always complain of the same thing, so i am glad you have taken measures to work around the situation. Good luck with that.

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August 20, 2018, 02:47:44 AM
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I really understand you because i have been in such situation, I have gotten a bounty token reward that worth so much, so i decided to hold, the more i keep holding the more it dips, so i agree on suggestion on trading these tokens and making profit with them as they go u and down.
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