Kazuto Ioka vs Donnie Nietes II

[Distinctin]

Aside from that, Ioka also made some more experience after the 1st encounter they had which gave more advantage to Ioka and this time, Ioka is more confident and much smarter just like what we saw recently. If we look on Nietes and Ioka's recent record, the latter did more fights and all those fights has ended on his favor unlike Nietes who only managed to win 1 fight and 1 draw.

He lost on their first encounter so he made an adjustment, if only Nietes was younger, he could have won the fight. But as we all saw, it was pretty evident that he slowed down, he also lose a bit of power from his punchers that's why IoKa continues to get aggressive.

He won via split decision, and Nietes took the belt on that win.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/215599

Well, Ioka made his revenge and beat Nietes through a dominant performance, it was a clear win by Ioka and that will probably send Nietes to retirement.

So, what are the rumors about these two fighters?
Next fight for Ioka?

Yup, Ioka did manage to get his revenge and this time, the Japanese boxer didn't waste any move as he is avoiding a toe-toe-toe fight after throwing a few punches to get himself at a safe distance. It was evident that Ioka has learned enough not to get himself too attached to Nietes because that would endanger him if he will step into Nietes's reach with a counter punch.

So, what are the rumors about these two fighters?
Next fight for Ioka?

Don't know about Ioka's next move but he is still young enough to get many fights as he can and Nietes have also said that he's still looking forward to getting some more fights before considering retirement, maybe a last win on any boxer in the same division will make him retire, not sure.

[livingfree]

I just saw the news that there are words from Nietes. He said that he may be defeated against Ioka but that doesn't mean that he's going to retire already.

He's still able to fight with world titles.

So, that's the clue that his fans are waiting for and to answer the rumors about his retirement and won't fight again. But, who he is going to fight for the next match? Still too early to guess.

[goinmerry]

I just saw the news that there are words from Nietes. He said that he may be defeated against Ioka but that doesn't mean that he's going to retire already.

He's still able to fight with world titles.

So, that's the clue that his fans are waiting for and to answer the rumors about his retirement and won't fight again. But, who he is going to fight for the next match? Still too early to guess.

Although I don't like the idea of his decision we have to respect that. But for sure, his next match would be against boxers on the lower rank tier. He won't have a shot once again at a title match now especially since he will be over 40 years of age before he will be qualified. He can't also match those boxers that are currently in prime or just past their prime.

The "ahas" in Nietes' body is not that deadly anymore and is also close to retirement.

If he thinks he can still fight then go. I just hope his good record won't add another loss or maybe he doesn't care for it anymore as the goal is to earn more money while his retirement is now approaching and nearing. If there's an offer just grab it while he can.

[harizen]

He lost on their first encounter so he made an adjustment, if only Nietes was younger, he could have won the fight. But as we all saw, it was pretty evident that he slowed down, he also lose a bit of power from his punchers that's why IoKa continues to get aggressive.

It makes sense. At least, everyone including me don't buy the age idea as an advantage until we saw the fight.

I really don't consider age as a factor if the boxer on the topic is still deadly in their previous fights prior to that loss which happened to Nietes and one good example too, is Nonito Donaire.

Ioka is also on the goal of revenge and that's a title defense so we can expect that he will do his best to retain his title.

The crowd was also on his side and even without involving the Science here, the crowd favored a boxer can give them the boost they need to defeat the visitors.

[robelneo]

I just saw the news that there are words from Nietes. He said that he may be defeated against Ioka but that doesn't mean that he's going to retire already.

He's still able to fight with world titles.

So, that's the clue that his fans are waiting for and to answer the rumors about his retirement and won't fight again. But, who he is going to fight for the next match? Still too early to guess.

For a boxer the last to give up is the body, the mind is always there to persist until a boxer realizes that the mind is very much willing but the body cannot keep up anymore, I just hope Nietes will not realize it late, Nietes has done a lot for the boxing fans he has the record of the longest reign as a Pinoy World champion, its hard to beat that record.
I don't think he'll have another crack at the world title this early he had to work his way up

[livingfree]

I just saw the news that there are words from Nietes. He said that he may be defeated against Ioka but that doesn't mean that he's going to retire already.

He's still able to fight with world titles.

So, that's the clue that his fans are waiting for and to answer the rumors about his retirement and won't fight again. But, who he is going to fight for the next match? Still too early to guess.

Although I don't like the idea of his decision we have to respect that. But for sure, his next match would be against boxers on the lower rank tier. He won't have a shot once again at a title match now especially since he will be over 40 years of age before he will be qualified. He can't also match those boxers that are currently in prime or just past their prime.

The "ahas" in Nietes' body is not that deadly anymore and is also close to retirement.

If he thinks he can still fight then go. I just hope his good record won't add another loss or maybe he doesn't care for it anymore as the goal is to earn more money while his retirement is now approaching and nearing. If there's an offer just grab it while he can.

He has changed because he became older.

But nothing against with his passion and eagerness to have another match soon and it's going to depend on him still. I think everything is indeed all about money for these professional boxers that should have chosen to retire instead of getting back even if they think that they still can fight.

I just saw the news that there are words from Nietes. He said that he may be defeated against Ioka but that doesn't mean that he's going to retire already.

He's still able to fight with world titles.

So, that's the clue that his fans are waiting for and to answer the rumors about his retirement and won't fight again. But, who he is going to fight for the next match? Still too early to guess.

For a boxer the last to give up is the body, the mind is always there to persist until a boxer realizes that the mind is very much willing but the body cannot keep up anymore, I just hope Nietes will not realize it late, Nietes has done a lot for the boxing fans he has the record of the longest reign as a Pinoy World champion, its hard to beat that record.
I don't think he'll have another crack at the world title this early he had to work his way up

We all share the same thoughts that he should just choose to settle and retire and train others. It's just too many good boxers have been retiring at the same time altogether.

Their primes has past and they need to help and build the younger ones.

[Fredomago]

He lost on their first encounter so he made an adjustment, if only Nietes was younger, he could have won the fight. But as we all saw, it was pretty evident that he slowed down, he also lose a bit of power from his punchers that's why IoKa continues to get aggressive.

It makes sense. At least, everyone including me don't buy the age idea as an advantage until we saw the fight.

I really don't consider age as a factor if the boxer on the topic is still deadly in their previous fights prior to that loss which happened to Nietes and one good example too, is Nonito Donaire.

Ioka is also on the goal of revenge and that's a title defense so we can expect that he will do his best to retain his title.

The crowd was also on his side and even without involving the Science here, the crowd favored a boxer can give them the boost they need to defeat the visitors.

I see that all the reason to win is on Ioka's shoulder, the first thing is to avenge his loss then being a champion need him to protect his popularity and continue to rise high, but the important thing here is the pride of fighting in front of your fans, he's really equipt by all those reason to showcase his skills and not to allow Nietes to beat him again and snatch his belt.

It's all done and Nietes loss though he did try to stand and not to be KO, but the numbers of pinches and converted scores

state that Ioka is really the winner of this fight, not the age but the determination to take that combo and willingness to accept
the risk in case Nietes landed solid counters.

[serjent05]

He lost on their first encounter so he made an adjustment, if only Nietes was younger, he could have won the fight. But as we all saw, it was pretty evident that he slowed down, he also lose a bit of power from his punchers that's why IoKa continues to get aggressive.

It makes sense. At least, everyone including me don't buy the age idea as an advantage until we saw the fight.

I really don't consider age as a factor if the boxer on the topic is still deadly in their previous fights prior to that loss which happened to Nietes and one good example too, is Nonito Donaire.

Ioka is also on the goal of revenge and that's a title defense so we can expect that he will do his best to retain his title.

The crowd was also on his side and even without involving the Science here, the crowd favored a boxer can give them the boost they need to defeat the visitors.

Both did their best but Nietes failed to adjust when Ioka does things Nietes least expected.  It is either the failure to size up the situation and adapt or his body failed to readjust according to the situation since he has greatly slowed down.  I know Nietes as an intelligent strategic fighter, he is always calculating but it looks like he failed this time. 

Still respect Nietes's determination to continue aiming for the title despite his age and its complications.  I do hope he gets a chance to another title bout and hopefully wins it before he acknowledges that he needs to retire.

[TimeTeller]

He lost on their first encounter so he made an adjustment, if only Nietes was younger, he could have won the fight. But as we all saw, it was pretty evident that he slowed down, he also lose a bit of power from his punchers that's why IoKa continues to get aggressive.

It makes sense. At least, everyone including me don't buy the age idea as an advantage until we saw the fight.

I really don't consider age as a factor if the boxer on the topic is still deadly in their previous fights prior to that loss which happened to Nietes and one good example too, is Nonito Donaire.

Ioka is also on the goal of revenge and that's a title defense so we can expect that he will do his best to retain his title.

The crowd was also on his side and even without involving the Science here, the crowd favored a boxer can give them the boost they need to defeat the visitors.

Both did their best but Nietes failed to adjust when Ioka does things Nietes least expected.  It is either the failure to size up the situation and adapt or his body failed to readjust according to the situation since he has greatly slowed down.  I know Nietes as an intelligent strategic fighter, he is always calculating but it looks like he failed this time.  

Still respect Nietes's determination to continue aiming for the title despite his age and its complications.  I do hope he gets a chance to another title bout and hopefully wins it before he acknowledges that he needs to retire.

He may think of retirement after this fight. He's not getting any younger so better enjoy his remaining years with his family.
At least, he will be retiring in good health rather than with lifetime injury owed by boxing.
Time to hang the gloves and give the stage to younger boxers. I guess, a lot of Filipino boxers are losing on this sports.
Ioka on the other hand, has still years to prove himself inside the boxing ring. At least we are watching good fights in this sports.

[agustina2]

He may think of retirement after this fight. He's not getting any younger so better enjoy his remaining years with his family.

That's not the case. It's been reported that Donnie Nietes wants to have another run in his career. I just don't know against whom since he's just lost his biggest title shot recently. I also like him to see him hanging his gloves but we can't control his desire to come back to the ring even though he is now considered old to do it. We need to respect his decision.

[Yamifoud]

He may think of retirement after this fight. He's not getting any younger so better enjoy his remaining years with his family.

That's not the case. It's been reported that Donnie Nietes wants to have another run in his career. I just don't know against whom since he's just lost his biggest title shot recently. I also like him to see him hanging his gloves but we can't control his desire to come back to the ring even though he is now considered old to do it. We need to respect his decision.

Maybe he needs another fight to confirm to himself if he still can win a fight. Well, we all like to see him retire but he is the one who will decide in the end, if he feels he still has left on him, then probably he will have another shot and try to win, but hopefully he will be convinced to retire if he fails again.

[Ziskinberg]

He may think of retirement after this fight. He's not getting any younger so better enjoy his remaining years with his family.

That's not the case. It's been reported that Donnie Nietes wants to have another run in his career. I just don't know against whom since he's just lost his biggest title shot recently. I also like him to see him hanging his gloves but we can't control his desire to come back to the ring even though he is now considered old to do it. We need to respect his decision.

Maybe he needs another fight to confirm to himself if he still can win a fight. Well, we all like to see him retire but he is the one who will decide in the end, if he feels he still has left on him, then probably he will have another shot and try to win, but hopefully he will be convinced to retire if he fails again.

Even if he will have another fight, I don't think he will win the fight. Enough is enough, he is not getting any younger, he needs to think of retirement now that he is still healthy so he will be able to enjoy his life. As a boxer gets older, their body depreciates as well, and it was very evident in his last fight.

[Oasisman]

He may think of retirement after this fight. He's not getting any younger so better enjoy his remaining years with his family.

That's not the case. It's been reported that Donnie Nietes wants to have another run in his career. I just don't know against whom since he's just lost his biggest title shot recently. I also like him to see him hanging his gloves but we can't control his desire to come back to the ring even though he is now considered old to do it. We need to respect his decision.

Yes, he wants to reclaim another world title as he think he still have enough left from his tank.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/sports.inquirer.net/470243/despite-loss-donnie-nietes-confident-he-can-still-fight-for-world-titles/amp
I have mad respect to Nietes as he is the longest filipino world champion, but I guess it's really time for him to hang his gloves. Though only him who knew his own capabilities, but it is obvious his age is already holding him to deliver a good fight like he used to.
However, he is very determined to have another fight. So, I only have to wish him good luck and be better in his upcoming fight.

[Kelvinid]

As a boxer gets older, their body depreciates as well, and it was very evident in his last fight.

That's why Manny Pacquiao retired when he got beaten by Ugas. he was the heavy favorite in the fight and yet we didn't see the old Pacman, so after the fight, he realized that his time is over and has to retire for good. We have no Filipino champion now I guess, so it's not good for the boxing community as we don't have a boxers that we will follow.

[carlisle1]

He may think of retirement after this fight. He's not getting any younger so better enjoy his remaining years with his family.

That's not the case. It's been reported that Donnie Nietes wants to have another run in his career. I just don't know against whom since he's just lost his biggest title shot recently. I also like him to see him hanging his gloves but we can't control his desire to come back to the ring even though he is now considered old to do it. We need to respect his decision.

Maybe he needs another fight to confirm to himself if he still can win a fight. Well, we all like to see him retire but he is the one who will decide in the end, if he feels he still has left on him, then probably he will have another shot and try to win, but hopefully he will be convinced to retire if he fails again.

Even if he will have another fight, I don't think he will win the fight. Enough is enough, he is not getting any younger, he needs to think of retirement now that he is still healthy so he will be able to enjoy his life. As a boxer gets older, their body depreciates as well, and it was very evident in his last fight.

I agree that the last fight gives him a decent amount of money and retirement can be processed now for him to enjoy his free time with his family.

Thinking about another fight with his age is not good. He is already at the point where the body is no longer the same during his prime.

A single mistake can cause his life, better to think of happy things that he can provide with his family, in case being a trainer or handler

can be done after his retirement.

[stadus]

As a boxer gets older, their body depreciates as well, and it was very evident in his last fight.

That's why Manny Pacquiao retired when he got beaten by Ugas. he was the heavy favorite in the fight and yet we didn't see the old Pacman, so after the fight, he realized that his time is over and has to retire for good. We have no Filipino champion now I guess, so it's not good for the boxing community as we don't have a boxers that we will follow.

Pacman is the greatest Filipino boxer, he achieves huge success in boxing and therefore he deserves to rest and enjoy his retirement. But recently, there's news that Pacman is going for an exhibition fight, something a boxer like Nietes would not benefit from in terms of revenue because he is not so popular.

Manny could make millions easily through exhibition fights, easy fight but would get him easy money.

By the way @OP, you can lock this thread now I guess.

[yazher]

So the last breed of those Filipino champions that they have right now. Donaire is already out and could retire and Donnie might be the next one. Although he was shadow by his compatriot, but he is one of those solid PH champions. Anyhow, at 40 years old, let's see, Ioka is not younger as well, but obviously less wear and tear and it will be held in his hometown, so it might be very tough for Donnie. So I would say, Ioka by split decision in a very close fight.

Looks like he goes to retire after this fight after holding one of the longest record holders in their division. another Japanese vs Pilipino fight, it would be the best fight for both countries since not long ago Donaire lose to Inoue, both fans really want to see some exciting fight because what they saw in that fight was short and they want to see a real battle and explosive clash in the ring this time. In Donnie will lose here, then it's the time for the Japanese to make names for themselves in the boxing industry, it's likely their time has come to dominate every weight division as well.

[Distinctin]

He lost on their first encounter so he made an adjustment, if only Nietes was younger, he could have won the fight. But as we all saw, it was pretty evident that he slowed down, he also lose a bit of power from his punchers that's why IoKa continues to get aggressive.

It makes sense. At least, everyone including me don't buy the age idea as an advantage until we saw the fight.

I really don't consider age as a factor if the boxer on the topic is still deadly in their previous fights prior to that loss which happened to Nietes and one good example too, is Nonito Donaire.

Ioka is also on the goal of revenge and that's a title defense so we can expect that he will do his best to retain his title.

The crowd was also on his side and even without involving the Science here, the crowd favored a boxer can give them the boost they need to defeat the visitors.

Both did their best but Nietes failed to adjust when Ioka does things Nietes least expected.  It is either the failure to size up the situation and adapt or his body failed to readjust according to the situation since he has greatly slowed down.  I know Nietes as an intelligent strategic fighter, he is always calculating but it looks like he failed this time.  

Still respect Nietes's determination to continue aiming for the title despite his age and its complications.  I do hope he gets a chance to another title bout and hopefully wins it before he acknowledges that he needs to retire.

He may think of retirement after this fight. He's not getting any younger so better enjoy his remaining years with his family.
At least, he will be retiring in good health rather than with lifetime injury owed by boxing.
Time to hang the gloves and give the stage to younger boxers. I guess, a lot of Filipino boxers are losing on this sports.
Ioka on the other hand, has still years to prove himself inside the boxing ring. At least we are watching good fights in this sports.

Nah, he won't and infact, Niete's has said that he is still looking to have a fight sooner and didn't disclose any details when will he decide to hang his gloves because he is not getting any younger. He should know when to stop because he may still have the strength to release powerful punches but he is not that agile anymore to get the correct pace and time on his punches unlike when he's a bit younger few years back.

Anyway, let's see if Probellum can find him a match soon. I'm just afraid of the consequence he might face soon because of his decision at his age now because boxers are likely going to try and make a fight with Niete's as he's viewed as a trophy these days that they can add on their records.