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February 28, 2014, 07:23:08 PM
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MTGOX was a cancer holding back bitcoin.

Now just like silkroad being shut down...the same will repeat.

TO DA MOON! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

The foundation is the cancer

Mtgox was just the flu
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February 28, 2014, 07:40:52 PM
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I just realized that MtGOX has opened the doors for a completely new business models named "certification" of "insurance". This can be considered a good thing since we learn from the bad moments.

Certification
Isn't it time for a company with indepth knowledge of how to run a company that stores ginormous amounts of bitcoins to pop up.
This company can offer certification to companies willing to confirm to strict policies and procedures in handling bitcoins.
Companies like Bitstamp, Btc-e, Blockchain could then allow themselves to be certified so they can present the certification on the site.
This way we can trust that our bitcoins are safe if we use their services.

Insurance
Insurance amounts to nearly the same thing. A company willing to bail either "certified"companies handling Bitcoins.
Or personal insurance where you can get bailed out if a Bitstamp or BTC-e goes down like MtGOX did.
For X mBTC per month they insure you for Y BTC if a bankruptcy claim comes through and you can prove your BTC got stuck there.

Bitcoin banks
Companies storing and guaranteeing safe storage of wallets. You send password secured offline wallets through an SSL connection to that company.
Company stores it in some sort of vault and makes sure nobody can steal your coins.
Also providing retreival services where you request your wallet back and the wallets get streamed back once lifted from cold storage.

etc.

So HODL is good since we are really very early adopters. The technologies and companies are yet to come.

PM me if you want to buy the rights off me Wink

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February 28, 2014, 07:54:00 PM
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MTGOX was a cancer holding back bitcoin.

Now just like silkroad being shut down...the same will repeat.

TO DA MOON! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Alternatively, Gox/Mark manipulating API data to fuel irrational speculation has been the driving force behind bitcoin since 2011. The chemo therapy is finished and ineffective. Bitcoin dies now.

Then how do you explain the Chinese exchange driving the price for bitcoin in 2013? Wrap your mind around that. Lol

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February 28, 2014, 07:55:23 PM
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MTGOX was a cancer holding back bitcoin.

Now just like silkroad being shut down...the same will repeat.

TO DA MOON! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

The foundation is the cancer

Mtgox was just the flu

How so?

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February 28, 2014, 08:09:23 PM
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The price doesn't have to be "to da moon" for bitcoin to function.
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February 28, 2014, 08:11:16 PM
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The price doesn't have to be "to da moon" for bitcoin to function.

But it has for me to retire  Grin

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February 28, 2014, 08:13:14 PM
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The price doesn't have to be "to da moon" for bitcoin to function.

But it has for me to retire  Grin

LOL
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February 28, 2014, 08:17:04 PM
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MTGOX was a cancer holding back bitcoin.

Now just like silkroad being shut down...the same will repeat.

TO DA MOON! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

The foundation is the cancer

Mtgox was just the flu

How so?

An important question.  Without any substantive argument the accusation is worthless.

I don't know a lot about the foundation, but I did notice they (most likely) shuffled Karpeles and Gox out the back door summarily.  That is a plus IMHO.
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February 28, 2014, 08:18:31 PM
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Blah blah bah, it's not even entertaining anymore.

I'm hodling.
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March 01, 2014, 02:08:30 AM
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MTGOX was a cancer holding back bitcoin.

Now just like silkroad being shut down...the same will repeat.

TO DA MOON! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

nah, gox was the cancer killing /b/ everything is going to be alright now.

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March 01, 2014, 01:42:23 PM
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Where ever light goes it notices darkness has gotten there first and is waiting for it!

Hodl the darkness young bitcoiner, In your darkest hour only a few will stand with you,

and you will notice "it" among the few.



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March 01, 2014, 02:47:33 PM
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I just realized that MtGOX has opened the doors for a completely new business models named "certification" of "insurance". This can be considered a good thing since we learn from the bad moments.

Certification
Isn't it time for a company with indepth knowledge of how to run a company that stores ginormous amounts of bitcoins to pop up.
This company can offer certification to companies willing to confirm to strict policies and procedures in handling bitcoins.
Companies like Bitstamp, Btc-e, Blockchain could then allow themselves to be certified so they can present the certification on the site.
This way we can trust that our bitcoins are safe if we use their services.

Insurance
Insurance amounts to nearly the same thing. A company willing to bail either "certified"companies handling Bitcoins.
Or personal insurance where you can get bailed out if a Bitstamp or BTC-e goes down like MtGOX did.
For X mBTC per month they insure you for Y BTC if a bankruptcy claim comes through and you can prove your BTC got stuck there.

Bitcoin banks
Companies storing and guaranteeing safe storage of wallets. You send password secured offline wallets through an SSL connection to that company.
Company stores it in some sort of vault and makes sure nobody can steal your coins.
Also providing retreival services where you request your wallet back and the wallets get streamed back once lifted from cold storage.

etc.

So HODL is good since we are really very early adopters. The technologies and companies are yet to come.

PM me if you want to buy the rights off me Wink

Once you add the costs of 'insurance' and 'certification' (regulation?) you eliminate the frictionless advantage of bitcoin.

Instead I think people need to learn a little bit of self-reliance.

Bitcoin allows YOU to be in control.

What ever happened to the desire for freedom? the desire to be in control of your own destiny?

"You have no moral right to rule us, nor do you possess any methods of enforcement that we have reason to fear." - John Perry Barlow, 1996
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What ever happened to the desire for freedom? the desire to be in control of your own destiny?

Considering that this is the speculation section of a forum about money, care to guess? Cheesy
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March 01, 2014, 03:31:22 PM
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I just realized that MtGOX has opened the doors for a completely new business models named "certification" of "insurance". This can be considered a good thing since we learn from the bad moments.

Certification
Isn't it time for a company with indepth knowledge of how to run a company that stores ginormous amounts of bitcoins to pop up.
This company can offer certification to companies willing to confirm to strict policies and procedures in handling bitcoins.
Companies like Bitstamp, Btc-e, Blockchain could then allow themselves to be certified so they can present the certification on the site.
This way we can trust that our bitcoins are safe if we use their services.

Insurance
Insurance amounts to nearly the same thing. A company willing to bail either "certified"companies handling Bitcoins.
Or personal insurance where you can get bailed out if a Bitstamp or BTC-e goes down like MtGOX did.
For X mBTC per month they insure you for Y BTC if a bankruptcy claim comes through and you can prove your BTC got stuck there.

Bitcoin banks
Companies storing and guaranteeing safe storage of wallets. You send password secured offline wallets through an SSL connection to that company.
Company stores it in some sort of vault and makes sure nobody can steal your coins.
Also providing retreival services where you request your wallet back and the wallets get streamed back once lifted from cold storage.

etc.

So HODL is good since we are really very early adopters. The technologies and companies are yet to come.

PM me if you want to buy the rights off me Wink

Once you add the costs of 'insurance' and 'certification' (regulation?) you eliminate the frictionless advantage of bitcoin.

Instead I think people need to learn a little bit of self-reliance.

Bitcoin allows YOU to be in control.

What ever happened to the desire for freedom? the desire to be in control of your own destiny?
Let us trade liberty for safety!

There is no bubble.
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March 01, 2014, 04:29:51 PM
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I just realized that MtGOX has opened the doors for a completely new business models named "certification" of "insurance". This can be considered a good thing since we learn from the bad moments.

Certification
Isn't it time for a company with indepth knowledge of how to run a company that stores ginormous amounts of bitcoins to pop up.
This company can offer certification to companies willing to confirm to strict policies and procedures in handling bitcoins.
Companies like Bitstamp, Btc-e, Blockchain could then allow themselves to be certified so they can present the certification on the site.
This way we can trust that our bitcoins are safe if we use their services.

Insurance
Insurance amounts to nearly the same thing. A company willing to bail either "certified"companies handling Bitcoins.
Or personal insurance where you can get bailed out if a Bitstamp or BTC-e goes down like MtGOX did.
For X mBTC per month they insure you for Y BTC if a bankruptcy claim comes through and you can prove your BTC got stuck there.

Bitcoin banks
Companies storing and guaranteeing safe storage of wallets. You send password secured offline wallets through an SSL connection to that company.
Company stores it in some sort of vault and makes sure nobody can steal your coins.
Also providing retreival services where you request your wallet back and the wallets get streamed back once lifted from cold storage.

etc.

So HODL is good since we are really very early adopters. The technologies and companies are yet to come.

PM me if you want to buy the rights off me Wink

Once you add the costs of 'insurance' and 'certification' (regulation?) you eliminate the frictionless advantage of bitcoin.

Instead I think people need to learn a little bit of self-reliance.

Bitcoin allows YOU to be in control.

What ever happened to the desire for freedom? the desire to be in control of your own destiny?

I think you're looking at it the wrong way. I was merely suggesting that companies using bitcoin can have themselves certified by other companies if they choose to (no must). This allows companies to open up to the public and prove that they have secure measures in place. Look at certifications like "Protected by Verisign" and "ISO xxxx certified". Nobody is forcing you but a consumer might trust certified companies more.

Insurance can also be an option. If I'm a company managing loads of bitcoins. What if I get robbed? What if my cold wallet goes lost? Why not insure the risk?
If MtGOX was insured they wouldn't be in this mess. Insurance is also an option.

Again I'm not suggesting it MUST be certified (regulated) or insured. I'm suggesting that companies might want to be certified or insured to protect them from hacks or technical errors.
The bitcoin market is a free market but we must make sure MtGOX like stuff doesn't keep on happening.

How can you take control of your destiny if someone hacks your ass or burns your cold wallets... the only actions you can take is "protect yourself and hope for the best" or "Ask for assistance, expertise or someone willing to take your risk"

Bitcoin is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get !!
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March 01, 2014, 04:34:18 PM
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panic sell, panic sell ...  Undecided

nahhh I don't even know where my private key is ... so I guess there is nothing to do then Cheesy

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