The difference between science and religion

[BADecker]

Faith, Science, and Truth

1.    Science can purify religion from error and superstition; religion can purify science from idolatry and false absolutes. (Pope John-Paul II)
2.    Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind. (Albert Einstein)
3.    Once you realize that the Bible does not purport to be a textbook of science, the old controversy between religion and science vanishes. (Georges Lemaitre)
4.    The truth cannot contradict the truth. (Pope John-Paul II, quoting Pope Leo XIII)
5.    A little knowledge leads away from God, but much knowledge leads towards him. (Isaac Newton)
6.    Who set the planets in motion? (Isaac Newton)
7.    God has placed in the human heart a desire to know the truth. (Pope John-Paul II)
8.    Reason and faith cannot be separated without diminishing the capacity of men and women to know themselves, the world and God in an appropriate way. (Pope John-Paul II)
9.    We are not a lost atom in a random universe. We are not the result of necessity or chance, but have been willed into existence. (Fr Chris Hayden)
10.    Faith is not an irrational leap in the dark; it is the reasonable response to the real…. Faith is no more than honesty before reality. (John Waters)
11.    Either God made the world or He did not make the world. There are no other possibilities. If I decide He did not make the world, I have to come up with a better explanation, and this has for millenia taxed more practised minds than mine. (John Waters)
12.    Science is a very successful way of knowing, but not the only way. We acquire knowledge in many other ways, such as through literature, the arts, philosophical reflection, and religious experience. A scientific view of the world is hopelessly incomplete….
13.    Once science has had its say, there remain questions of value, purpose, and meaning that are forever beyond science’s domain, but belong in the realm of philosophical reflection and religious experience. (Francisco J. Ayala)
14.    Technology has remedied countless evils which used to harm and limit human beings. (Pope Francis)
15.    Our immense technological development has not been accompanied by a development in human responsibility, values and conscience. (Pope Francis)

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[af_newbie]

Faith, Science, and Truth

1.    Science can purify religion from error and superstition; religion can purify science from idolatry and false absolutes. (Pope John-Paul II)
2.    Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind. (Albert Einstein)
3.    Once you realize that the Bible does not purport to be a textbook of science, the old controversy between religion and science vanishes. (Georges Lemaitre)
4.    The truth cannot contradict the truth. (Pope John-Paul II, quoting Pope Leo XIII)
5.    A little knowledge leads away from God, but much knowledge leads towards him. (Isaac Newton)
6.    Who set the planets in motion? (Isaac Newton)
7.    God has placed in the human heart a desire to know the truth. (Pope John-Paul II)
8.    Reason and faith cannot be separated without diminishing the capacity of men and women to know themselves, the world and God in an appropriate way. (Pope John-Paul II)
9.    We are not a lost atom in a random universe. We are not the result of necessity or chance, but have been willed into existence. (Fr Chris Hayden)
10.    Faith is not an irrational leap in the dark; it is the reasonable response to the real…. Faith is no more than honesty before reality. (John Waters)
11.    Either God made the world or He did not make the world. There are no other possibilities. If I decide He did not make the world, I have to come up with a better explanation, and this has for millenia taxed more practised minds than mine. (John Waters)
12.    Science is a very successful way of knowing, but not the only way. We acquire knowledge in many other ways, such as through literature, the arts, philosophical reflection, and religious experience. A scientific view of the world is hopelessly incomplete….
13.    Once science has had its say, there remain questions of value, purpose, and meaning that are forever beyond science’s domain, but belong in the realm of philosophical reflection and religious experience. (Francisco J. Ayala)
14.    Technology has remedied countless evils which used to harm and limit human beings. (Pope Francis)
15.    Our immense technological development has not been accompanied by a development in human responsibility, values and conscience. (Pope Francis)

16. Science solves existing problems.  Religion creates non-exisiting problems.

[dippididodaday]

1.    Science has obliterated religion.
2.    Science without religion is heaven on earth.
3.    Once you realize that book (bible) is full of crap, you will dump it altogether.
4.    Truth will prevail.
5.    A little knowledge leads away from God, but much knowledge renders him non-existent.
6.    Who set the planets in motion? (Isaac Newton)
7.    The human heart has a desire to know the truth.
8.    Reason and knowledge cannot be separated without diminishing the capacity of men and women to know themselves, science is the appropriate way.
9.    We are a marvel in a random universe. We are the result of necessity and chance - we are ultimate existence.
10.  Faith is an irrational leap in the dark; it is the unreasonable response to the real…. faith is no more than falsity before reality.
11.  "god" did not make the world. There are no other possibilities -> Science shows he did not make the world - it came up with a better explanation, and this has for ages freed more practised minds than mine.
12.  Science is the only successful way of knowing. We acquire knowledge only through science, whilst we amuse and entertain ourselves through literature, the arts, philosophy and altered states of consciousness.
13.  Once science has had its say, questions of value, purpose, and meaning resolves automatically.
14.  Science has remedied countless religious evils which used to harm and limit human beings.
15.  Our immense technological development has been accompanied by a development in human responsibility, values and conscience.

[Moloch]

The difference between science and religion:


Religious answer to anything = "God did it"

Scientific answer to anything = "Let me show you how it happened", or "I don't know"

[IndeecV]

God, religion was indiscriminate for a long time, because it demanded blind faith, and disbelief was a sin. Now scientifically objective discoveries have changed our view of the world. And religion has to constantly retreat, even the most stubborn fanatics do not want to look crazy. Therefore, religion is trying to find an explanation for the contradictions, so as not to lose its audience. But as the population becomes more educated, it becomes more difficult to maintain outdated mythology. One hundred years and 90% of people will be atheists.

[BADecker]

God, religion was indiscriminate for a long time, because it demanded blind faith, and disbelief was a sin. Now scientifically objective discoveries have changed our view of the world. And religion has to constantly retreat, even the most stubborn fanatics do not want to look crazy. Therefore, religion is trying to find an explanation for the contradictions, so as not to lose its audience. But as the population becomes more educated, it becomes more difficult to maintain outdated mythology. One hundred years and 90% of people will be atheists.

I think that there is never blind faith in religion. Why? Because no religion would ever get off the ground if all there was, was blind faith.

Rather, religions have religious books, religious buildings and statues, and other religious objects and philosophies that people use as a basis for their faith... faith which expects a future outcome because of the religion, but doesn't really know how the outcome is going to work or be set in place.

Science theory is religion. Why? Because it doesn't provide facts that we know will always be facts:

As additional scientific evidence is gathered, a scientific theory may be modified and ultimately rejected if it cannot be made to fit the new findings; in such circumstances, a more accurate theory is then required.

The same paragraph contradicts what was just said:

That doesn’t mean that all theories can be fundamentally changed (for example, well established foundational scientific theories such as evolution, heliocentric theory, cell theory, theory of plate tectonics etc).

The whole idea of science theory is double talk, designed to make science fiction into science fact in the eyes of people who are not scientists. This means that science is just another religion, based on rigorous examination, and a built-in combination of faith and doubt (doubt, because scientists are always trying to find new ways to correct present science theories).

[Moloch]

God, religion was indiscriminate for a long time, because it demanded blind faith, and disbelief was a sin. Now scientifically objective discoveries have changed our view of the world. And religion has to constantly retreat, even the most stubborn fanatics do not want to look crazy. Therefore, religion is trying to find an explanation for the contradictions, so as not to lose its audience. But as the population becomes more educated, it becomes more difficult to maintain outdated mythology. One hundred years and 90% of people will be atheists.

it doesn't provide facts that we know will always be facts:

As additional scientific evidence is gathered, a scientific theory may be modified and ultimately rejected if it cannot be made to fit the new findings; in such circumstances, a more accurate theory is then required.

The same paragraph contradicts what was just said:

That doesn’t mean that all theories can be fundamentally changed (for example, well established foundational scientific theories such as evolution, heliocentric theory, cell theory, theory of plate tectonics etc).

The whole idea of science theory is double talk, designed to make science fiction into science fact in the eyes of people who are not scientists

This is called intellectual honesty... something you know nothing about

Only a fool would think he had all the answers and he couldn't possibly be mistaken about anything

There are some scientific theories, like evolution, to which the abundance of facts and evidence have proven the theory true, to the point where it could not be fundamentally changed (details might change, but evolution is proven true... every living thing on this planet evolves... period... this is a proven fact)... this is what you quoted, and you don't seem to understand it or accept it

The same goes with the other things in that list... the Earth revolves around the sun... all living things have cells... these are facts which cannot seriously be disputed

Denying evolution is as laughable as denying the Earth revolves around the sun... you're a fool if you believe your own nonsense

[BADecker]

God, religion was indiscriminate for a long time, because it demanded blind faith, and disbelief was a sin. Now scientifically objective discoveries have changed our view of the world. And religion has to constantly retreat, even the most stubborn fanatics do not want to look crazy. Therefore, religion is trying to find an explanation for the contradictions, so as not to lose its audience. But as the population becomes more educated, it becomes more difficult to maintain outdated mythology. One hundred years and 90% of people will be atheists.

it doesn't provide facts that we know will always be facts:

As additional scientific evidence is gathered, a scientific theory may be modified and ultimately rejected if it cannot be made to fit the new findings; in such circumstances, a more accurate theory is then required.

The same paragraph contradicts what was just said:

That doesn’t mean that all theories can be fundamentally changed (for example, well established foundational scientific theories such as evolution, heliocentric theory, cell theory, theory of plate tectonics etc).

The whole idea of science theory is double talk, designed to make science fiction into science fact in the eyes of people who are not scientists

This is called intellectual honesty... something you know nothing about

Only a fool would think he had all the answers and he couldn't possibly be mistaken about anything

There are some scientific theories, like evolution, to which the abundance of facts and evidence have proven the theory true, to the point where it could not be fundamentally changed (details might change, but evolution is proven true... every living thing on this planet evolves... period... this is a proven fact)... this is what you quoted, and you don't seem to understand it or accept it

The same goes with the other things in that list... the Earth revolves around the sun... all living things have cells... these are facts which cannot seriously be disputed

Denying evolution is as laughable as denying the Earth revolves around the sun... you're a fool if you believe your own nonsense

Your examples of science fact are examples of how a bunch of facts that are twisted to show things that really didn't happen. And the twisting is done in the minds of people who want them to be factual, and who use a lot of words to make them sound factual when they are not factual, or when we don't know that they are factual.

Evolution scientists are fools if they believe their own nonsense.

[Sherwood_Archer]

Science is based on evidence. Religion is based on belief.
Whether you believe on science or not will not change a thing about it. The same cannot be said with religion.

[Moloch]

God, religion was indiscriminate for a long time, because it demanded blind faith, and disbelief was a sin. Now scientifically objective discoveries have changed our view of the world. And religion has to constantly retreat, even the most stubborn fanatics do not want to look crazy. Therefore, religion is trying to find an explanation for the contradictions, so as not to lose its audience. But as the population becomes more educated, it becomes more difficult to maintain outdated mythology. One hundred years and 90% of people will be atheists.

it doesn't provide facts that we know will always be facts:

As additional scientific evidence is gathered, a scientific theory may be modified and ultimately rejected if it cannot be made to fit the new findings; in such circumstances, a more accurate theory is then required.

The same paragraph contradicts what was just said:

That doesn’t mean that all theories can be fundamentally changed (for example, well established foundational scientific theories such as evolution, heliocentric theory, cell theory, theory of plate tectonics etc).

The whole idea of science theory is double talk, designed to make science fiction into science fact in the eyes of people who are not scientists

This is called intellectual honesty... something you know nothing about

Only a fool would think he had all the answers and he couldn't possibly be mistaken about anything

There are some scientific theories, like evolution, to which the abundance of facts and evidence have proven the theory true, to the point where it could not be fundamentally changed (details might change, but evolution is proven true... every living thing on this planet evolves... period... this is a proven fact)... this is what you quoted, and you don't seem to understand it or accept it

The same goes with the other things in that list... the Earth revolves around the sun... all living things have cells... these are facts which cannot seriously be disputed

Denying evolution is as laughable as denying the Earth revolves around the sun... you're a fool if you believe your own nonsense

Your examples of science fact are examples of how a bunch of facts that are twisted to show things that really didn't happen. And the twisting is done in the minds of people who want them to be factual, and who use a lot of words to make them sound factual when they are not factual, or when we don't know that they are factual.

Evolution scientists are fools if they believe their own nonsense.

You used to attempt to make sense... this is just sad to watch these days... why even bother replying with something so stupid?

You certainly won't convince anyone that you are correct when you post shit like this

You only make yourself look foolish

[af_newbie]

[BADecker]

Science and Religion

[Moloch]

[BADecker]

The elite turned their 9/11 action into a religion of terror. Dr. Stephen Jones shows the nano-thermite used in the Twin Towers to make them collapse the way they did. Believing some formal religious group orchestrated 9/11, is believing in a false religion of propaganda done by those elite Americans who were behind the 9/11 war on America and the rest of the world, all for money.


Dr Steven Jones Nano Thermite 9 11 Truth Movement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFSEw8nJrEk


What You Don't Know About 9/11 Could Fill A DVD...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y45qZWfjEcw


The REAL conspiracy theory is that 9/11 was NOT an inside job. So, what is the religion? The scientifically applied acts against America on and following 9/11... and then hiding this truth from the world.

[Savanna_R]

don't agree with you. Science and religion answer different questions: science is about describing the world around, religion is about answering the question of what's after death. if you define them correctly, you'll see there's nothing to argue about...

[Moloch]

don't agree with you. Science and religion answer different questions: science is about describing the world around, religion is about answering the question of what's after death. if you define them correctly, you'll see there's nothing to argue about...

The problem is religion tries to do more than simply answer questions about death... religion suppresses women, gays, abortion, drugs, and many other things... the bible has thousands of pages, and very few talk about death or the afterlife...

If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

What does this have to do with answering questions about the afterlife?

Is this a good rule to follow in 2018?

[af_newbie]

don't agree with you. Science and religion answer different questions: science is about describing the world around, religion is about answering the question of what's after death. if you define them correctly, you'll see there's nothing to argue about...

Except there is no life after death.  Nobody in the history of life on Earth came back from death.  Not a shred of evidence.

Religion comes up with answers to non-existing problems, without providing any supporting evidence.

[BADecker]

don't agree with you. Science and religion answer different questions: science is about describing the world around, religion is about answering the question of what's after death. if you define them correctly, you'll see there's nothing to argue about...

Except there is no life after death.  Nobody in the history of life on Earth came back from death.  Not a shred of evidence.

Religion comes up with answers to non-existing problems, without providing any supporting evidence.

But God exists... fact. The faith part is believing Him when He tells us about the coming resurrection.

[af_newbie]

don't agree with you. Science and religion answer different questions: science is about describing the world around, religion is about answering the question of what's after death. if you define them correctly, you'll see there's nothing to argue about...

Except there is no life after death.  Nobody in the history of life on Earth came back from death.  Not a shred of evidence.

Religion comes up with answers to non-existing problems, without providing any supporting evidence.

But God exists... fact. The faith part is believing Him when He tells us about the coming resurrection.

Nobody cares about your faith.  It does not change a thing.

[af_newbie]

Math is the perfect science. These fields were proven helpful in the pursuit of new innovatios, inventions, and investigating extraordinary phenomenon. There were many theories and explainations being presented by science and all of those are still theory especially in the question of how human beings were created or how life begins in this planet. But, some people believe in extraordinary things explain it through beliefs and this is religion.

Religion is the way to connect the unexplained things happened in this world. Thid is why I do believe on religion rather than science. Faith or religion is better than science. Science could not explain all things in this world. For sure this world is created with superpowers.

Religion provides answers without any evidence.  It does not explain anything. 

It conflates what we already know with what we don't know.