Crimea

[bryant.coleman]

But now those useless military forces are up against a foe that can bite back and then some. If they´re going to wage conventional war against Russia it´s difficult to see how that would be set up successfully. Where would the staging area be ? Poland ? Ukraine ? If they started massing troops and materiel there the Russians would simply start rolling from THEIR own in place staging areas. I guess their first major obstacle would be the Atlantic Ocean.

In case of a potential military conflict between Russia and the NATO, the only country which could counter the former militarily is the United States. The EU military is a joke. But it needs to be seen whether the US is willing to sacrifice its man and money for its vassal states.

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[galdur]

Why Uncle Sam has been going totally nuts in recent time.

And no, the FED won´t hike rates in June. That has just been hype to prop up the dollar so it has room to fall later this year..

Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Infrastructure_Investment_Bank

A World in Change Shanghai Cooperation Organization

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=walOrjt5KS8

[Nemo1024]

Though off-topic, the posts above are an interesting read. Watch the George Friedman video that I posted in the relevant topic below:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=584031.msg11014762#msg11014762
A lot becomes crystal clear.


Russian Railways started selling united fare tickets to Crimea with railway-bus-ferry-bus. All departures are syncronised:
http://www.moskovsky-vokzal.ru/moskovskyvokzal_sankt_peterburg/edinyi_bilet_rzhd_v_krym_-_poezd_-_avtobus_-_parom_-_avtobus/

[galdur]

The sun is beginning to set on the Western empire as the sun is rising in the East. China, Russia and the Eastern nations have been quietly going about the business of business as the US and UK have continued to being on war. Can you name one major infrastructure project the Western world has discussed or implemented in the past five years? Not a single one.

Jeff Brown gives us a glimpse of what is happening in China with the economy and day-to-day life. We discuss how the East is moving away from the dollar and turning to the yuan to conduct international business.

While the West Conducts War, The East Conducts Business- Jeff Brown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxIZvurkRtQ

[Nemo1024]

Kerch celebrated today the 71st anniversary of liberation from German Nazi occupation:

Video of day-time celebrations: http://www.kerch.com.ru/articleview.aspx?id=46061
Video of fireworks: http://www.kerch.com.ru/articleview.aspx?id=46060

[Okurkabinladin]

I don't know in which planet you are living in. There is no use in arguing with you. If you think that the German armed forces are technologically more superior than the Russian one, then may god save you.  

I'd take a single Leopard 2 over two of your crappy T80s any time. If you're comparing the Western arsenal to what Russia is using then you're the one in need of saving. You guys are running out of space to hold your cold war scrap.

Man, I know, you didnt start this trollfest, but this is derailing thread, if I ever saw one. I thought this is supposed to be about self-determination of Crimeans and Ukrainians, not dick measuring  


If you want to see new russian tech, check out T-14 Armata.

[cryptocoiner]

Ukrainian domain name is still working:

http://www.rada.crimea.ua/en/

That's strange.

Well, crimea is an ukrainian land annexed by russia. Sooner or alter putin will be kicked out of there. and crimea will be returned to ukraine. So domains are working and will be working =)

[galdur]

Ukrainian domain name is still working:

http://www.rada.crimea.ua/en/

That's strange.

Well, crimea is an ukrainian land annexed by russia. Sooner or alter putin will be kicked out of there. and crimea will be returned to ukraine. So domains are working and will be working =)

Yes, and pigs will fly in formation over Sevastopol that day.

[cryptocoiner]

Ukrainian domain name is still working:

http://www.rada.crimea.ua/en/

That's strange.

Well, crimea is an ukrainian land annexed by russia. Sooner or alter putin will be kicked out of there. and crimea will be returned to ukraine. So domains are working and will be working =)

Yes, and pigs will fly in formation over Sevastopol that day.

Sure they will =) Kiev has a lot of pigs. They all are ready to fly =) What kind of pigs would you prefer to see in Sevastopol's sky?

And do you have a doubt that crimea is an annexed land?

[galdur]

Ukrainian domain name is still working:

http://www.rada.crimea.ua/en/

That's strange.

Well, crimea is an ukrainian land annexed by russia. Sooner or alter putin will be kicked out of there. and crimea will be returned to ukraine. So domains are working and will be working =)

Yes, and pigs will fly in formation over Sevastopol that day.

Sure they will =) Kiev has a lot of pigs. They all are ready to fly =) What kind of pigs would you prefer to see in Sevastopol's sky?

And do you have a doubt that crimea is an annexed land?

Crimea is Russian land. Has been since the 18th century. Except the Soviets transferred it between their republics for administrative purposes.

It´s strange how everything the commies did was supposed to be meaningless, just commie bunk and propaganda but this procedure of theirs is now somehow holy writ to western hypocrites, to be set in stone.

[Balthazar]

Ukrainian Crimea is a legacy of communist occupation. Russians just helped Ukraine to follow own law and get rid of it.

[galdur]

What happened to lofty ideals of peoples´right to self-determination ? What happened to outcry over regimes killing their own people ? Where is it now ?

I guess the script changes according to the interests of those who own politicians and media presstitudes.

[Nemo1024]

Ukrainian Crimea is a legacy of communist occupation. Russians just helped Ukraine to follow own law and get rid of it.

Yep, as summarised here.
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/04/11/crazy-asylum-overload-ukraine-bans-communism-goodbye-chinese-investments/

What happened to lofty ideals of peoples´right to self-determination ? What happened to outcry over regimes killing their own people ? Where is it now ?

I guess the script changes according to the interests of those who own politicians and media presstitudes.

Hush, you. Such trivialities are only drawn out of the Western closet when suiting the Western needs.

[Souldream]

I don't know in which planet you are living in. There is no use in arguing with you. If you think that the German armed forces are technologically more superior than the Russian one, then may god save you.  

I'd take a single Leopard 2 over two of your crappy T80s any time. If you're comparing the Western arsenal to what Russia is using then you're the one in need of saving. You guys are running out of space to hold your cold war scrap.

Man, I know, you didnt start this trollfest, but this is derailing thread, if I ever saw one. I thought this is supposed to be about self-determination of Crimeans and Ukrainians, not dick measuring  


If you want to see new russian tech, check out T-14 Armata.

Most powerfull tank in the world is "Merkava" from Israel ... and second one is german one "Leopard".

About T-14 ARmata ( russian ), this one is not yet manufactured to be sell or to be used in conflict , only sample is ready ... it must be showed next month .... and production will start on 2016 ....  in other side ... china started production to get the most powerfull tank in the world ... but let's see on wich existing one they do a copy ...

[Okurkabinladin]

Ukrainian domain name is still working:

http://www.rada.crimea.ua/en/

That's strange.

Well, crimea is an ukrainian land annexed by russia. Sooner or alter putin will be kicked out of there. and crimea will be returned to ukraine. So domains are working and will be working =)

Yes, and pigs will fly in formation over Sevastopol that day.

Sure they will =) Kiev has a lot of pigs. They all are ready to fly =) What kind of pigs would you prefer to see in Sevastopol's sky?

And do you have a doubt that crimea is an annexed land?

No offense, but Crimea is not Texas   there was a referendum - with predictable result, vast majority of locals was disappointed with Kyev for the last two decades. Treated as second class citizens by nationalist revanchists and oligarchs, who took over the young republic. Crimea was never part of the Ukraine, in fact it was only attached to it in 1950´, because of communist (!) leader Chruschev. Donbass in turn was given to ukrainian SSR by I.V.Lenin   right there you have all your justice and self-determination and democracy, in long dead supreme soviet council...

You simply cannot repeat the same old cold war propaganda about evil commies (then Ukrainians were commies too), yet insist on legality of their legal system and nonsensical, nondemocratic territorial changes. Your brain is going to explode, if you take it too seriously.

[Nemo1024]

Ukrainian domain name is still working:

http://www.rada.crimea.ua/en/

That's strange.

Well, crimea is an ukrainian land annexed by russia. Sooner or alter putin will be kicked out of there. and crimea will be returned to ukraine. So domains are working and will be working =)

Yes, and pigs will fly in formation over Sevastopol that day.

Sure they will =) Kiev has a lot of pigs. They all are ready to fly =) What kind of pigs would you prefer to see in Sevastopol's sky?

And do you have a doubt that crimea is an annexed land?

No offense, but Crimea is not Texas   there was a referendum - with predictable result, vast majority of locals was disappointed with Kyev for the last two decades. Treated as second class citizens by nationalist revanchists and oligarchs, who took over the young republic. Crimea was never part of the Ukraine, in fact it was only attached to it, because of communist (!) leader Chruschev. Donbass in turn was given to ukrainian SSR by I.V.Lenin   right there you have all your justice and self-determination and democracy, in long dead supreme soviet council...

You simply cannot repeat the same old cold war propaganda about evil commies (then Ukrainians were commies too), yet insist on legality of their legal system and nonsensical, nondemocratic territorial changes. Your brain is going to explode, if you take it too seriously.

Okurkabinladin, it must be noted, that even by Soviet standards that transfer was illegal, in breech of the then Constitution of the Soviet Union and the legislature of RSFSR (Russia).

Wow, cryptocoiner must be a pro-Russian deep at heart. Thank you for painting an unforgettable mental image of Porky/Porosenko flying over Sevastopol in a ballistic trajectory, flapping with his arms.  

But seriously, even that would not be enough to persuade Crimeans to surrender to the rotten to the core unitarian Ukraine. There is a bigger probability that the historic Russian lands of Odessa, Mariupol, Harkov, Donetsk, Luhansk, Dnepropetrovsk (Novorossijsk), and even Kiev will join Crimean Republic in Russain Federation, than the reverse.


On a lighter note, Izhavia (Izhevsk) sold all tickets to all 28 flights to Crimea over just 1,5 hours after opening.
http://lenta.ru/news/2015/04/12/izhavia/

[Nemo1024]

In memory of all those fallen when liberating Crimea 71 years ago.

“Sophie” against Canaris. She fought for USSR, but became Hero of Russia
http://stanislavs.org/sophie-against-canaris-she-fought-for-ussr-but-became-hero-of-russia/

[bryant.coleman]

On a lighter note, Izhavia (Izhevsk) sold all tickets to all 28 flights to Crimea over just 1,5 hours after opening.
http://lenta.ru/news/2015/04/12/izhavia/

Due to the falling (and now rebounding) ruble, the ticket rates are quite cheap. As per the article, they range from RUR 5,900 to RUR 7,790. That is $110 to $150. Quite a bargain actually.

[galdur]

Hmm, maybe I should move to the Crimea and help them dig trenches in preparation for the invasion by Porky the Pig and his terrifying piglet army.

[Sithara007]

Crimea is now an autonomous parliamentary republic within Ukraine

Crimean referendum is about to create a state within Ukraine.

Go on streamate or myfreecams, and ask girls from Ucraine, what they are thinking about new neo nazi power in Kiev.

I hope this is not a new Gaza - palestine. Why there's everyone wants to make a new country. Aren't we having enough countries to fight with each other?