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March 11, 2013, 10:29:12 PM
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Whether he pays the coin back is mostly a moral issue, as they were given to him, not stolen. Ultimately it was the responsibility of the pool to manage the coins.

If bank places by mistake 10k into your account, and you cash it out, your will probably rot in jail..


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March 11, 2013, 10:30:33 PM
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Holy crap  Angry

For what it's worth, I've moved my mining to this pool for now. Eleuthria you need to add a donation% option to allow us to donate above the usual pool fee.

Thanks for the support.  In the past I've been very stubborn on the idea that if a pool charges a fee, there shouldn't be another box asking you to "donate" more than that fee.  On a 0% pool, sure.

But at this point, I may put up some kind of donate button.  So far only one user has made a positive response about how to return the money, which would reduce the amount lost from 1,254 to 1,207.  At this point I'll take every coin I can get because it is going to take a long time to earn that amount back.

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March 11, 2013, 10:31:40 PM
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Holy crap  Angry

For what it's worth, I've moved my mining to this pool for now. Eleuthria you need to add a donation% option to allow us to donate above the usual pool fee.

Thanks for the support.  In the past I've been very stubborn on the idea that if a pool charges a fee, there shouldn't be another box asking you to "donate" more than that fee.  On a 0% pool, sure.

But at this point, I may put up some kind of donate button.  So far only one user has made a positive response about how to return the money, which would reduce the amount lost from 1,254 to 1,207.  At this point I'll take every coin I can get because it is going to take a long time to earn that amount back.

Make it a donation button on the site and non-miners can also contribute.

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March 11, 2013, 10:40:58 PM
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Also add option for pool users to donate x percent of their mined bitcoins to pool. And send an e-mail anyone who used lately the pool and ask them to help with donations to keep things going.

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March 11, 2013, 10:42:04 PM
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Holy crap  Angry

For what it's worth, I've moved my mining to this pool for now. Eleuthria you need to add a donation% option to allow us to donate above the usual pool fee.

Thanks for the support.  In the past I've been very stubborn on the idea that if a pool charges a fee, there shouldn't be another box asking you to "donate" more than that fee.  On a 0% pool, sure.

But at this point, I may put up some kind of donate button.  So far only one user has made a positive response about how to return the money, which would reduce the amount lost from 1,254 to 1,207.  At this point I'll take every coin I can get because it is going to take a long time to earn that amount back.

When Graet got ripped off he set up a mining node just for the purpose of recouping the loss.  I and many others contributed hashes to that node.  I would love to have a chance to do the same for you too.

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March 11, 2013, 10:44:27 PM
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Goodbye faith in humanity: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=6W3NvW8T

That may well be a human, but not humanity, not all of it anyway.

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March 11, 2013, 10:49:09 PM
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I appreciate the users looking to help donate what they can.  My biggest concern right now is that publicly asking for for donations will possibly turn away more users than what donations bring in.  The pool already lost ~1 TH/s since this event happened, even though less than 500 GH/s of users had the overpayments appear, and even fewer were actually able to take the money and run.


I would like to make one thing clear:  This event will not have any extra impact on miners of BTC Guild, other than the ones that were able to pull out the extra money.  The only impact it had was a few hours where the pool could not process payouts due to an empty hot wallet, which has been remedied.

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March 11, 2013, 11:27:41 PM
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You should raise the fees.

BTCguild is the most stable, well supported, and technologically advanced pool on the planet.

ASIC users need to pony up for all the value and awesome service you are providing.

Where else are they gonna go?  It's not worth using a riskier, less reliable, lower performing pool when every second of optimum ASIC mining is so precious.

Charge them 6% to use the Big Boy Pool, which is only for ASIC workers with over 20GH.


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March 11, 2013, 11:51:12 PM
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You should raise the fees.

BTCguild is the most stable, well supported, and technologically advanced pool on the planet.

ASIC users need to pony up for all the value and awesome service you are providing.

Where else are they gonna go?  It's not worth using a riskier, less reliable, lower performing pool when every second of optimum ASIC mining is so precious.

Charge them 6% to use the Big Boy Pool, which is only for ASIC workers with over 20GH.



I have .504 BTC that I have mined with you and slush collectively (.7 if not for satoshidice), where do I send it Elutheria? Its not much but its all I got..

Take my hashes for the next month too, or I'll just give it back at the end of it!



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If you do have this persons info. (IP addresses n other such) send it to other pool operators, tell them to let them mine with them, and never give em shit back....


EDIT: Is there not a BTCitcoin IP blacklist?
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March 12, 2013, 12:18:35 AM
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As icebreaker points out, people with a lot of hashpower should be the first to donate. Like first 50 from Hall of Fame (I'm there too..)

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March 12, 2013, 01:48:46 AM
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Eleuthria, are you running 0.8, or 0.7?  Asking because of the current blocksize clusterfuck.  I'm going to jump off your pool onto someone else's whos running 0.7 if you are running 0.8 and haven't downgraded yet.  Please let me know, I'd rather not jump.
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March 12, 2013, 01:56:02 AM
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Eleuthria, are you running 0.8, or 0.7?  Asking because of the current blocksize clusterfuck.  I'm going to jump off your pool onto someone else's whos running 0.7 if you are running 0.8 and haven't downgraded yet.  Please let me know, I'd rather not jump.
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March 12, 2013, 02:00:08 AM
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All of Guild's servers are being rolled back to 0.7.  Over half of them already are, and the last few are almost done.

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March 12, 2013, 02:18:52 AM
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All of Guild's servers are being rolled back to 0.7.  Over half of them already are, and the last few are almost done.

Thnks for the prompt update!
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March 12, 2013, 02:42:49 AM
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All BTC Guild servers have been rolled back to 0.7 now.

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March 12, 2013, 05:52:13 AM
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All BTC Guild servers have been rolled back to 0.7 now.

What a day to be a poolmanager ....respect.. Wink

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March 12, 2013, 07:04:34 AM
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Payouts are back up.  Thank you all for not flooding the thread during a period of crisis.  It's a relief to come back to the forum after this ordeal and find that important information was not being bumped off.

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March 12, 2013, 09:28:13 AM
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I'd like to formally thank CryptoCluster, the first user to return the Bitcoins they were overpaid due to the error that happened last night.  I have received their permission to publicly thank them, and if anybody would like to reward their honesty (returning 47.8 BTC), they have identified the wallet 1NadVDZGSChYzZGRzJeHyjq68an25sZK4v , which belongs to the Polish Mises Institute (http://mises.pl/wsparcie/darowizny/).

So far this is the only user that has come forward and returned the coins.  Even better, they did this in response to a simple warning on their account at BTC Guild, since they had no email tied to the account.

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March 12, 2013, 10:10:15 AM
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It's been requested by a few users in reaction to the losses last night from the payout error (and the lack of returning the funds), and again after the pool lost another ~200 BTC due to the hard fork today (miners were paid for 3-4 hours of work that was completely worthless due to the fork).


I've setup two ways that users can donate if the feel the need to:

The first is a direct donation to a special BTC Guild donation wallet: 1GuiLdvH3YjJyEExyTmcd7X2nwX7pZvV7a
The second is by setting up a miner (or adding a load balance backup pool) using the worker:  btcguild_donate   (enter anything as the password)


Before donating in either way, I want to make it very clear:  Neither of these losses (1,254 [minus 47] from overpayment, and ~200 from hard fork) will affect BTC Guild miners.  The pool is not in danger of being unable to pay its miners.  Technically we have a negative buffer, but I still have the funds available in BTC exchanges to purchase BTC to bring the buffer back to positive if the current BTC funds ran dry.  This is NOT a "save the pool" situation.

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March 12, 2013, 12:09:13 PM
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The second is by setting up a miner (or adding a load balance backup pool) using the worker:  btcguild_donate


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