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March 01, 2014, 06:03:06 PM
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Does anyone know what happened?

Where the coins stolen or voided?

Did they go to customer accounts over past weeks?

Does gox pay withdraws to more then one address per transaction?

If you where overpaid by GOX withdraws would you really let people know?
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March 01, 2014, 06:07:38 PM
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They are VIRTUAL
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March 01, 2014, 06:25:35 PM
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It APPEARS ( Huh) that 90,000 of the bitcoin (~$49million USD) are sitting in these 2 wallets untouched:

https://blockchain.info/address/1cXNTyXj4xPGopfYZNY5xfSM1EPJJvBZV

https://blockchain.info/address/1P3S1grZYmcqYDuaEDVDYobJ5Fx85E9fE9

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March 01, 2014, 06:28:40 PM
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I thought gox said they only had 1000 btc left?
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March 01, 2014, 06:32:50 PM
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To me, their claims of assets simply don't add up:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=494710.0

Without having access to their records, there is no 110% provability that those two wallets are in fact owned by GOX, however, if this were a civil matter, with the information provided at http://letstalkbitcoin.com/the-ghost-in-the-machine-at-mtgox/#.UxImAuNdUhM, there's pretty good probability that they are.

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March 01, 2014, 06:47:28 PM
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Someone external to Mt. Gox has to audit what happened there, until then all we have is pure and useless speculation.
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March 01, 2014, 06:57:07 PM
Last edit: March 01, 2014, 08:59:03 PM by Aexcu
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It APPEARS ( Huh) that 90,000 of the bitcoin (~$49million USD) are sitting in these 2 wallets untouched:

https://blockchain.info/address/1cXNTyXj4xPGopfYZNY5xfSM1EPJJvBZV

https://blockchain.info/address/1P3S1grZYmcqYDuaEDVDYobJ5Fx85E9fE9

There's 3 other wallets which have an additional 110,000 bitcoin, so that makes 200k BTC:

40k https://blockchain.info/address/16Ls6azc76ixc9Ny7AB5ZPPq6oiEL9XwXy
30k https://blockchain.info/address/1MyGwFAJjVtB5rGJa32M6Yh46cGirUta1K
40k https://blockchain.info/address/12HddUDLhRP2F8JjpKYeKaDxxt5wUvx5nq
...

and
50k https://blockchain.info/address/1P3S1grZYmcqYDuaEDVDYobJ5Fx85E9fE9



Furthermore it seems that there's a motherload of wallets that have touched the following address (see for example where the transfers of .00777 end up) here:

https://blockchain.info/address/12Nxd2X12WZeYSjUcbtm5NpS3d81Yh8sKh

Such as:
https://blockchain.info/address/16Z1jD3ev9LnPkTr9LuqcLztq5ZMB8KENz
https://blockchain.info/address/15jdxjFhXUsp2xuycmKnjw8yk1WsVon69c
https://blockchain.info/address/19PPeuu4jPjqtefSQ2FDgKmNJ88Z5wiuJt
https://blockchain.info/address/18LpE3eaXgzUc7XGTNKCgZkD4EZN4NcAbK
https://blockchain.info/address/1MeCzxxB8eDd17DaocFLQaQtH8seVjNM67
https://blockchain.info/address/1Gg9GGQWmRk1pp4vNkMqLaEiPVNdiNvz7E
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March 01, 2014, 07:15:51 PM
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They are VIRTUAL
WE KNOW
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March 01, 2014, 07:16:24 PM
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So with those 3 added to the 2 above, 210,000 bitcoins or approx $120,134,740 million?

Where did you find those 3 wallets? Any source that they are GOX owned?

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March 01, 2014, 07:21:24 PM
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We need partner with these folks and their current database to build on to trace the money.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=494761.0
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March 01, 2014, 07:56:26 PM
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Where did you find those 3 wallets? Any source that they are GOX owned?

https://blockchain.info/tx/3a1b9e330d32fef1ee42f8e86420d2be978bbe0dc5862f17da9027cf9e11f8c4

This is a transfer Mark Karpeles has done back in 2011 to prove he had the funds under his control. Those wallets are found following this chain, in my view those would still be Gox's cold storage wallets.
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March 01, 2014, 07:58:49 PM
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So then if can be confirmed, just the wallets listed here in this thread currently hold ~270,000 bitcoin (~$154,562,812 USD)Huh


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March 01, 2014, 08:10:52 PM
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how do you know that it s still in mtgox s control?
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March 01, 2014, 08:11:43 PM
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It APPEARS ( Huh) that 90,000 of the bitcoin (~$49million USD) are sitting in these 2 wallets untouched:

https://blockchain.info/address/1cXNTyXj4xPGopfYZNY5xfSM1EPJJvBZV

https://blockchain.info/address/1P3S1grZYmcqYDuaEDVDYobJ5Fx85E9fE9

do we know gox own these?
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March 01, 2014, 08:16:53 PM
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It APPEARS ( Huh) that 90,000 of the bitcoin (~$49million USD) are sitting in these 2 wallets untouched:

https://blockchain.info/address/1cXNTyXj4xPGopfYZNY5xfSM1EPJJvBZV

https://blockchain.info/address/1P3S1grZYmcqYDuaEDVDYobJ5Fx85E9fE9

do we know gox own these?

See here:
http://letstalkbitcoin.com/the-ghost-in-the-machine-at-mtgox/#.UxI-KuNdUhN

Pretty compelling.

If you add up all the wallets that are mentioned in this thread, it's ~270,000 bitcoin ($154.5million).

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March 01, 2014, 09:01:24 PM
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Other people reaching similar conclusions:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1z37zw/mt_gox_has_at_least_200k_btc/cfq7xl0?context=3
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March 01, 2014, 09:11:25 PM
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Gox lost the private keys.
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March 01, 2014, 09:14:01 PM
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Gox lost the private keys.

Not really, if there's any truth to what Mark Karpeles has said earlier about how they handle private keys.
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March 01, 2014, 09:41:06 PM
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https://blockchain.info/address/1P3S1grZYmcqYDuaEDVDYobJ5Fx85E9fE9?currency=PLN

this is meaningless, this hige transaction was made @ 2011...

Smiley so I checked only first from the list and it has nothing to do with this case Smiley
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March 01, 2014, 09:43:34 PM
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this is meaningless, this hige transaction was made @ 2011...

Smiley so I checked only first from the list and it has nothing to do with this case Smiley

Wrong, it has all the meaning in the world.. The point is that it was made in 2011 when it was known to be Mt.Gox money. Hasn't moved, much.



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