Things you DONT like the bounty and signature campaigns

[lordquanta]

Hello all,

From time to time I've seen that for joining bounty and signature campaigns have imposed certain rules to ensure better candidates are enrolling. And at the same time campaign is reaching wide spread as well. Things have started to become weirder with every season when campaign admin imposes new rules which makes the joining those campaigns an awful experience. Then again candidates join it for monetary(there is nothing wrong in it). However from time to time even a good poster may be having second thoughts about joining these campaigns.

My intention is to short list those reason which are so awful and pathetic that you move away from these campaign or even if you join them you loathe them.  

You could add your own additional reasons in comment section as  well.


PS: fixed some typos and framing of sentences.

[The Cryptovator]

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This poll is really need ? Rules depend on managers and project. Every managers have specific criteria to manage bounty or signature campaigns.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

However from time to time even good poster are having second thoughts about joining campaigns and many time those rules are  too less for efforts.

The second half of the above sentence makes no sense whatsoever, but as for the first part:  "Good posters" aren't hesitating at all as far as joining a campaign.  And they're the ones who should have no reservations or problems in doing so.  It's the members who don't have enough merits and have shitty posts that have the most problems and who shouldn't be applying to campaigns--yet I'm seeing this all the time.

I think all signature campaigns ought to be as selective as Chipmixer, for example.  There should be more merit requirements and shitposters should be booted immediately if they get accepted to a campaign.

The only fuckers who have a problem with selective campaigns are those who can't meet the requirements.  They whine ad nauseam about how they're not earning merits, and I've seen people buy merits and try to join campaigns with merit minimums.

As far as the other issues:

I haven't ever participated in an ICO bounty, so I haven't had to join a telegram group, nor do I have a telegram account.  I'm not sure why that's a requirement for some of these bounties.  Then again, my guess is that most members here probably have a telegram account anyway, and joining a group wouldn't be a big deal.

Having a payment pegged to USD shouldn't be a big deal, as long as it's made clear at the beginning how the conversion is going to be made.  I think there are some bounties/campaigns that don't specify that they're going to use preev or coinmarketcap or whatever, and then they can use whatever price is to their advantage.  Campaigns, if they already have the funds all set to be paid, should just specify how much bitcoin they're going to pay their participants.

The other important issue is the minimum rank requirement.  I absolutely applaud campaigns only accepting Sr. or Hero members and above.  My opinion is that this should be the norm.  The only thing Jr. members seem to be able to do is spam, and that's because the average noob is creating multiple accounts to maximize their earnings.  That might suck for a genuinely good newbie, but I think they should still be required to rank up before being allowed in a campaign.  If their posts are actually good, they'll do it eventually. 

Being allowed to use your signature/avatar space for advertising ought to be a reward for good posting, not some sort of right that anybody has.  It's being abused to no end.

[hilariousetc]

Merit points  
Open for specific very high ranks only    

Well I wish these two options were huge issues for getting onto bounty campaigns. Sadly they're not and pretty much anyone can get onto most Alt coin campaigns these days and that's where the problem lies here. If campaigns only accepted higher ranks and those who have high merit counts then we wouldn't have much of an issue with spam.

Things like joining telegram groups seem silly to me though, and they're probably pointless, but I can see why they request Facebook and Twitter follows etc because it's an easy way to bolster their following to make them look more popular than they are.

I think all signature campaigns ought to be as selective as Chipmixer, for example.  There should be more merit requirements and shitposters should be booted immediately if they get accepted to a campaign.

If everyone ran their campaigns like Chipmixer/Darkstar there wouldn't be an issue on this board with spam. I've long said that signature campaigns could actually help clean up the forum and rid it off spam, but only if campaign managers do their job properly and set minimum standards and only accept quality users, and this campaign is proof positive of that working. Having a Chipmixer signature is almost a guarantee that that user will be making worthwhile posts. Haven't seen a single shitposter on there and if ever one person did start I'm sure they'd be removed fairly swiftly.

[vicarios]

I've seen they want and ask to say Hi in Telegram groups and provide screenshots to them...
Maybe they want something more, that's something normal. But the funny thing is why people follow and do that!???

[athanz88]

Since this is kinda a thread asking about opinion, then i guess it is not wrong to add some opinion of mine. There are things on my mind that can be applied to make bounty or signature campaign better :
1. No newbie or Jr. Member can join bounty or signature.
2. Merit requirement to join campaign.
3. Only specific rank for higher payment and long campaign (it sounds kinda hypocrisy, but it will establish a better posts result, thus lowering the spam)
4. Managers truly check the post of their participant.

Joining a chat group will be a rule that i hate less rather than following a twitter or joining a facebook group.

[mdayonliner]

Before I make a comment on the post, I wounder if this is a meta board issue? I am trying to figure out the relevancy of the topic with forum issues and stuffs. Can anyone help me with the missing parts here for me?

Thanks in advance.

[bitart]

Before I make a comment on the post, I wounder if this is a meta board issue? I am trying to figure out the relevancy of the topic with forum issues and stuffs. Can anyone help me with the missing parts here for me?

Thanks in advance.

Bounty spam is a forum issue, or, to stress it a bit more: bounty spam is the forum's issue these days...
I'm not so optimistic about the solution, because there are so much ideas to improve the forum and to stop spam, but those are still only ideas...

[atorle]

For me, it takes a lot of time and work, imagine some projects will require you to make 15 or 20 post in a week  sometimes,and even place restrictions on where those post must be. Also juniors members get only a tiny portion of the rewards (and you know, getting merits these days is almost impossible)

[mdayonliner]

Bounty spam is a forum issue, or, to stress it a bit more: bounty spam is the forum's issue these days...
I'm not so optimistic about the solution, because there are so much ideas to improve the forum and to stop spam, but those are still only ideas...

I am not ignoring the fact that it's not forum issue however my emphasis was on specific board for a topic. When we are talking about a feature of the forum then it's meta, suggestion to improve forum experience is meta, security issue is meta etc... I hope it make sense now. 

PS: Looking at the current board of the topic (Service Discussion (Altcoins)) gives me my answer. Thanks to the mod 

[Arkham Knight]

For me, it is the low payments. I had experience where I joined a 5 month signature campaign and all I received is a reward that only costs $200. It is too low so I hope that the forum management will consider on making these ICO bounties to give fair fixed payment next time.

[tronghoa]

For me it is Merit point and specific member rank. I know now it's hard to get merit point but some old member still in member rank with 10 merit point on the account and they do nothing to increase it - or even they don't post in forum also - so if required specific, I think it is better to start from Full Member )

[deadthings]

The most irritating thing in bounty campaigns there is no systematic complement of tables and all important information. Good campaign should have support which can fast and good answering for questions and systematic give informations

[prokerduit]

if in my opinion, it's okay to join the telegram group as long as the prize for bounty is raised. we become bounties to get advice! but why in voting who chooses to hate payment is very little. that's just my assumption

[lordquanta]

First thing first: this poll is about sharing your opinions. This poll is neither about attacking others opinion nor justifying yours. Thus stop attacking others opinion and share your feedback if you are interested.

[cabin]

For me , what I do not like about bounty and signature campaign if the having only specific ranks in the campaign, merits and also the fact that some bounty take long time to distribute rewards and also the fact that their is no limit to number of participants in some.

[pacifista]

If those are required then so be it, what i do not like in a signature campaign is they change the rules when bounty is ending  and they do not mention at first that they can change the rules anytime.

[lordquanta]

If those are required then so be it, what i do not like in a signature campaign is they change the rules when bounty is ending  and they do not mention at first that they can change the rules anytime.

You have a valid point.
Not every campaign manager does that. Many campaign manager mentions that in early stages about possibility of change in rules anytime. Sometimes it is the bounty-sign owners who change their mind and ask bounty-sig camp manager to convey their message. Thus manager ends up getting flak for it.

[withlove99]

I do not know this opinion poll what to do? and it has an impact on the bounty manager or not? But each bounty manager has their own rules for bounty campaigns and we can't change their way

[bitart]

Bounty spam is a forum issue, or, to stress it a bit more: bounty spam is the forum's issue these days...
I'm not so optimistic about the solution, because there are so much ideas to improve the forum and to stop spam, but those are still only ideas...

I am not ignoring the fact that it's not forum issue however my emphasis was on specific board for a topic. When we are talking about a feature of the forum then it's meta, suggestion to improve forum experience is meta, security issue is meta etc... I hope it make sense now. 
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Fine fine it makes sense, I understand it

The only thing I just can't imagine that how it can happen that everyone can lead a bounty campaign (can become a bounty manager) and can almost kill the normal activity of the forum, encouraging other spammers to spam.
We have ton of rules and regulations but we just cannot stop them...