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March 02, 2014, 10:49:51 PM
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TL;DR Coinshift is a new kind of scrypt multipool that isn't so damaging to the ecosystem. Come mine with us!
Code:
cgminer --scrypt  -o stratum+tcp://mine.coinshift.com:3333 -u btcaddress -p x

The Problem
A typical profit-switching mining pool diverts all of its hashing power to whichever coin is most profitable at the moment. When that profitability calculation changes, even if another coin is only slightly more profitable, the pool will abruptly switch its hashing power to the next coin.

This is bad for the alt coin community for a few reasons. It causes huge spikes in the network hash rate for the top coins, causing waves of blocks being generated too quickly with few meaningful transactions in each. The large sums of coins getting dumped onto the exchanges all at once causes huge drops and overall volatility in the coin price. Finally, once the dump occurs and the pool has moved on to pillage a new coin, the previous coin is left stranded with an artificially high difficulty and slower than average block time, which delays transactions until enough blocks generated to readjust the difficulty.

The problem is one of misaligned incentives -- the incentive to mine on destructive profit-switching pools is too great. Coinshift's mission is simple: find a more sustainable way to mine altcoins profitably.


The Solution
Coinshifts algorithm ranks all the alt coins who are more profitable to mine than Litecoin, and distributes its hash rate across them with a strong bias towards the more profitable coins. As the coins profitability changes, the algorithm shifts some of its hashrate over to the more profitable coins.

This is great for the ecosystem because it helps miners follow changes in profitability without causing them. At the beginning, our allocations will look spiky like switching pools. Over time and as more miners choose Coinshift, our hash allocations will settle closer to equilibrium and help to smooth out hashrate spikes.


Basic Pool Info
* Pool fee will be 2%.
* We pay out every day if your balance is >0.001, so you don't need to trust us with holding your coins.
* Stratum servers in us-west, us-east, and eu-west, and asia-pacific (Tokyo)

Transparency
Our goal is to be as transparent as possible without undermining the security or profitability of the pool. To that end, we're sharing quite a bit on our stats page, including BTC/Mh/day. We're collecting a lot of interesting data, so we'll continue to share as much as we can.

API
We've got APIs for pool performance, performance history, and account history here: http://coinshift.com/api/

Questions?
We'd be happy to answer them here, or on Twitter

What are you waiting for
Come mine with us!

Updates
July 6 - Custom difficulty implemented! Use "d=<diff>" as your password for custom difficulty.
June 13 - New charting system! Hovering on a chart shows values, and each of your workers gets its own chart now.
June 10 - Added USDe and SC, both performing great!
Apr. 19 - Added two coins: WC and FLT
Mar. 14 - Added two coins: FTC and SMC
Mar. 13 - Added APIs for account stats: http://coinshift.com/api/
Mar. 12 - Listed on http://poolpicker.eu
Mar. 12 - Added two coins: FLAP and HBN
Mar. 10 - Fixed issue with VARDIFF being too high
Mar. 8 - Bonus .25BTC block added to pool to thank early adopters
Mar. 8 - Added BTC/Mh stats & graph, added APIs for pool performance and history (http://coinshift.com/api/)
Mar. 7 - Fixed issues with high reject and orphan rates. Rejects are now <2.5%.
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March 02, 2014, 11:19:24 PM
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* The pool fee will be 3%, and exchange and transaction fees come out to an additional 0.3%-0.4%.
3.3 ~ 3.4 % of fee ? WOW
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March 02, 2014, 11:32:43 PM
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3.3 ~ 3.4 % of fee ? WOW

Thanks for the feedback. Months ago we started this project, Middlecoin was more or less the only game in town. As a result, we designed our fee structure to match theirs.

During those months of work the competitive landscape has changed -- so it makes sense to re-evaluate the fee structure. We're going to reduce the base fee to 2% and absorb the trading and tx fees so we've updated our site to reflect that. Also, the fee is 0% while we're in beta!
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March 03, 2014, 01:53:37 AM
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You've got my hashes!

Looking forward to seeing this pool grow - you've got the right mindset and finally created a pool that can help level out the ecosystem.  The big shift to multipools has very much negatively affected the landscape of the alts and it's only going to get worse.

[EDIT] For the record - 0% intro and a 2% is more than reasonable - especially considering the server costs these days. 
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March 03, 2014, 02:49:07 PM
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What time are the payouts each day?
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March 03, 2014, 03:19:29 PM
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   I cant find on the site the Bitcoins per MH/s: daily profit estimate.
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March 04, 2014, 04:31:25 PM
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Bump. Nice job finding that Litecoin block.
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March 04, 2014, 07:44:27 PM
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Definitely following this pool with great interest. With the failure of so many recently-launched coins, coupled with the fact that renting out rigs is more work for very little additional profit, I'm back to looking for a good Multi-pool. I'll throw around 10 MH on this one and see how it goes :]

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March 04, 2014, 07:56:40 PM
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Do you have statistics on current payout per MH and past history? Couldnt find anything
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March 04, 2014, 10:01:54 PM
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I'm testing this pool out now. What DDOS measures do you have in place?

I've used middlecoin, wafflepool, scyptguild, trademybit, and poolwarz so far. I like this so far.
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March 04, 2014, 10:03:48 PM
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100% accept rate and ~25ms ping is good.
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March 04, 2014, 11:23:13 PM
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On the Stats & Graphs page, I'm terrible with color coding so I'm wondering if you plan on implementing something similar to http://poolpicker.eu/?
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March 04, 2014, 11:46:10 PM
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looks interesting. i'll give it a try
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March 05, 2014, 12:21:52 AM
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"We strive for transparency, so we make it a priority to share as much information as we can."

Will you also have a page on block info?
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March 05, 2014, 06:51:47 AM
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Past 300MH/s just after 2 days; nice.
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March 05, 2014, 08:33:59 AM
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Nice idea,

I am getting around 11% reject rate, why is that high?

Also:
Since the pool is using Vardiff, it is a nice idea if i can see my miner's current diff on my stat page.

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March 05, 2014, 10:49:12 AM
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Any stats on BTC/Mh/day?

If I helped you, please consider a small donation: 1DC9sWbSfzNi1tZwYdSHNF5XNc5tkwj7tJ (BTC)
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March 05, 2014, 10:50:26 AM
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Any stats on BTC/Mh/day?
Profit yesterday for me was 0.01186 BTC/MH/Day = 171% LTC profitability.
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March 05, 2014, 10:56:49 AM
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that is amazing compared to all other pools right now...
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March 05, 2014, 11:41:00 AM
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Pointed 5Mh/s to you, make us proud.

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March 05, 2014, 12:08:50 PM
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You've got my attention. Will switch to you soon once my scrypt ASIC miners arrive.

why so serious...?
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March 05, 2014, 12:16:57 PM
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As a precaution, be prepared if the pool increases 20x overnight Wink
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March 05, 2014, 03:11:14 PM
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Could you please add a total balance (confirmed+estimated) line.

Thanks.
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March 05, 2014, 03:12:32 PM
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giving you a try, have added 3 mhs to your pool Smiley

^ agree, total balance would be good!
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March 05, 2014, 03:47:33 PM
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Could you please add a total balance (confirmed+estimated) line.

Thanks.

Absolutely.

As a precaution, be prepared if the pool increases 20x overnight Wink

Yikes!
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March 05, 2014, 03:59:18 PM
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Could you please add a total balance (confirmed+estimated) line.

Thanks.

Absolutely.

As a precaution, be prepared if the pool increases 20x overnight Wink

Yikes!

Do you have plans to implement some of the suggestion on the first page such as BTC/MH/Day, LTC Profitability %, interactive graph, block info?
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March 05, 2014, 05:49:23 PM
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I like the profit-shifting idea.

Pointing 4 rigs your way now (4.5M, 2.2M, 1M and 450K) for a few hours. Let's see how it goes!
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March 05, 2014, 06:02:05 PM
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Are you guys having some issues with scaling? I "should" have an average of 23MH on the site right now, however, the past 6 hours or so I'm averaging around 17MH. Last night it was fine, however, right now I'm losing like 25% of my hashing power.

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March 05, 2014, 07:04:22 PM
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Another 2.75Mh coming your way
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March 05, 2014, 07:36:46 PM
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I pointed 60% of my hashing power here. We'll see.

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March 05, 2014, 08:11:24 PM
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I really like the idea..
2.5Mh pointing to this pool

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March 05, 2014, 08:14:44 PM
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Pointed 4 Mh/s your way  Wink
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pointed 8Mh/s now to test

I have ~25Mh/s again if my test are good
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March 05, 2014, 08:49:39 PM
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@Coinshift:

Nice idea,

I am getting around 11% reject rate, why is that high?

Also:
Since the pool is using Vardiff, it is a nice idea if i can see my miner's current diff on my stat page.

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March 05, 2014, 10:10:15 PM
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I find two blocks and you reward me with a pool diff of 1280!?  Cheesy

 [23:02:38] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 1280
 [23:02:38] Accepted 4a93714f Diff 879/128 GPU 1 at Pool 0
 [23:02:49] Found block for Pool 0!
 [23:02:49] Accepted 3a04fe27 Diff 289K/1280 BLOCK! GPU 0 at Pool 0
 [23:03:06] Accepted 03373995 Diff 20.4K/1280 GPU 0 at Pool 0
 [23:04:01] Found block for Pool 0!
 [23:04:01] Accepted 93e80614 Diff 113K/1280 BLOCK! GPU 1 at Pool 0
 [23:05:06] Accepted 0679a5a0 Diff 10.1K/1280 GPU 1 at Pool 0
 [23:06:51] Accepted 2ff077e2 Diff 1.37K/1280 GPU 0 at Pool 0
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March 05, 2014, 10:50:25 PM
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I like the idea. I don't have much so i'm going to contribute with what I have: 0.75 mhs.
Is there any way to estimate profits? btc/mhs/day?
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March 05, 2014, 10:56:55 PM
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I like the idea. I don't have much so i'm going to contribute with what I have: 0.75 mhs.
Is there any way to estimate profits? btc/mhs/day?

Would be nice to see estimated profits. Also it would be nice to see an estimate for unconfirmed blocks (I am assuming these are not included on the user stats page).

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March 05, 2014, 11:05:41 PM
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I like the profit-shifting idea.

Pointing 4 rigs your way now (4.5M, 2.2M, 1M and 450K) for a few hours. Let's see how it goes!

Yeah, not sure if profit will be where I expect it to be... after 4 hours mining with ~8Mhs I have only 0.0013 exchanged and 0.0018 unexchanged, so I should expect about 0.0186BTC/day with 8MH/s? That's only 0.0023BTC/MH/Day  Huh

BTW, the reject rate across 4 rigs is about 3%, which is acceptable.

Perhaps, posting the profitability will improve the transparency?
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March 05, 2014, 11:44:31 PM
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I find two blocks and you reward me with a pool diff of 1280!?  Cheesy

 [23:02:38] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 1280
 [23:02:38] Accepted 4a93714f Diff 879/128 GPU 1 at Pool 0
 [23:02:49] Found block for Pool 0!
 [23:02:49] Accepted 3a04fe27 Diff 289K/1280 BLOCK! GPU 0 at Pool 0
 [23:03:06] Accepted 03373995 Diff 20.4K/1280 GPU 0 at Pool 0
 [23:04:01] Found block for Pool 0!
 [23:04:01] Accepted 93e80614 Diff 113K/1280 BLOCK! GPU 1 at Pool 0
 [23:05:06] Accepted 0679a5a0 Diff 10.1K/1280 GPU 1 at Pool 0
 [23:06:51] Accepted 2ff077e2 Diff 1.37K/1280 GPU 0 at Pool 0

Bah, lightweight:

 [18:35:50] Accepted 07d5d5c2 Diff 8.36K/6826 GPU 5 at Pool 0
 [18:36:13] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 54608
 [18:36:13] Accepted 093976d5 Diff 7.1K/6826 GPU 4 at Pool 0
 [18:37:53] Accepted 71a43cff Diff 148K/54608 GPU 4 at Pool 0

 Shocked

Did I miss instructions for individual workers?
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March 05, 2014, 11:58:40 PM
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what time are payouts done (in EST)
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March 06, 2014, 12:02:40 AM
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Did I miss instructions for individual workers?

1BTCADDRESS.worker_name for username

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March 06, 2014, 12:07:49 AM
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Individual workers are fine for me. They are on the stats page. But not really useful to show them on a same small graph. Needs a better graph with useful guide lines.

Balance is very low for me too. Confirmed and estimated together is 1/5 what is should be.

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I find two blocks and you reward me with a pool diff of 1280!?  Cheesy

 [23:02:38] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 1280
 [23:02:38] Accepted 4a93714f Diff 879/128 GPU 1 at Pool 0
 [23:02:49] Found block for Pool 0!
 [23:02:49] Accepted 3a04fe27 Diff 289K/1280 BLOCK! GPU 0 at Pool 0
 [23:03:06] Accepted 03373995 Diff 20.4K/1280 GPU 0 at Pool 0
 [23:04:01] Found block for Pool 0!
 [23:04:01] Accepted 93e80614 Diff 113K/1280 BLOCK! GPU 1 at Pool 0
 [23:05:06] Accepted 0679a5a0 Diff 10.1K/1280 GPU 1 at Pool 0
 [23:06:51] Accepted 2ff077e2 Diff 1.37K/1280 GPU 0 at Pool 0

Bah, lightweight:

 [18:35:50] Accepted 07d5d5c2 Diff 8.36K/6826 GPU 5 at Pool 0
 [18:36:13] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 54608
 [18:36:13] Accepted 093976d5 Diff 7.1K/6826 GPU 4 at Pool 0
 [18:37:53] Accepted 71a43cff Diff 148K/54608 GPU 4 at Pool 0

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Did I miss instructions for individual workers?

No need for separate workers. Well it is still beta but just looking at my CGMiner screen shows me high diff as well for a short time, just before a disconnect.

[00:33:27] Accepted dcb1fece Diff 76K/7880 GPU 1 at Pool 0
[00:43:11] Accepted 0276b16c Diff 26.6K/7880 GPU 1 at Pool 0
[00:45:12] Stratum connection to Pool 0 interrupted
[00:45:14] Pool 0 not responding!

When it came back it was back at 512, then 1706, 989, 2197, 3515 which it is at now.

Reject rate is a perfect 0 after mining for almost 5 hours. Profits however don't look good yet.

Just found another block again as well!  Smiley

 [01:05:09] Accepted 0a45ee76 Diff 6.38K/2197 GPU 1 at Pool 0
 [01:05:26] Found block for Pool 0!
 [01:05:27] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 3515
 [01:05:27] Accepted 15631a82 Diff 784K/2197 BLOCK! GPU 0 at Pool 0
 [01:07:04] Accepted 09ba238e Diff 6.74K/3515 GPU 1 at Pool 0
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March 06, 2014, 12:22:26 AM
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Did I miss instructions for individual workers?

1BTCADDRESS.worker_name for username

Thank-you kindly, that got rid of the 54K pool difficulty. Now seeing more sane values.
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March 06, 2014, 12:39:19 AM
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Sorry guys. In the afternoon as we approached 500MH we started to have some orphaning issues. If you started mining < 6 hours ago then you got the short end of that stick. It's stable now, but we've removed the mining instructions from the site until we can put in a scalable fix.

Overall BTC/MH/24h was .005 which wasn't all that bad considering the numbers I'm seeing on poolpicker.eu, but still very disappointing. We're working on it 24/7. I've barely slept in days!

Thanks everyone for risking your hashes with us. We're determined to make it worth while.

Edit: also the high VARDIFF targets will get rolled back once we sort out the performance problems. 54k diff --- how many cards do you have in that box!?
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How many people are in your team?
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Edit: also the high VARDIFF targets will get rolled back once we sort out the performance problems. 54k diff --- how many cards do you have in that box!?

6 x HD7950 in that rig, but 10 rigs total on your pool. Separate workers seems to have resolved it as the highest diff I have across the 10 rigs now is 3.66K.
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Sorry guys. In the afternoon as we approached 500MH we started to have some orphaning issues. If you started mining < 6 hours ago then you got the short end of that stick. It's stable now, but we've removed the mining instructions from the site until we can put in a scalable fix.

Overall BTC/MH/24h was .005 which wasn't all that bad considering the numbers I'm seeing on poolpicker.eu, but still very disappointing. We're working on it 24/7. I've barely slept in days!

Thanks everyone for risking your hashes with us. We're determined to make it worth while.


That's all good, but if you really want to provide full transparency, as you claim, you need to have BTC/MH/day published. Otherwise, this could be one of those "good idea but poorly executed".

BTW, I scaled down from ~8MH/s to 1MH/s for now...
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Sorry guys. In the afternoon as we approached 500MH we started to have some orphaning issues. If you started mining < 6 hours ago then you got the short end of that stick. It's stable now, but we've removed the mining instructions from the site until we can put in a scalable fix.

Overall BTC/MH/24h was .005 which wasn't all that bad considering the numbers I'm seeing on poolpicker.eu, but still very disappointing. We're working on it 24/7. I've barely slept in days!

Thanks everyone for risking your hashes with us. We're determined to make it worth while.


That's all good, but if you really want to provide full transparency, as you claim, you need to have BTC/MH/day published. Otherwise, this could be one of those "good idea but poorly executed".

BTW, I scaled down from ~8MH/s to 1MH/s for now...
Agreed 100% I'm still following this pool and I'm excited to see where it goes, however, $25 in profit on 23MH over 24 hrs doesn't even put food on the table haha. Definitely dropping back a bit until you guys get it figured out.

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March 06, 2014, 04:59:25 AM
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I like the profit-shifting idea.

 I should expect about 0.0186BTC/day with 8MH/s? That's only 0.0023BTC/MH/Day  Huh

BTW, the reject rate across 4 rigs is about 3%, which is acceptable.




After mine 6 hours I've got a % of 0,00589BTC/MH day

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March 06, 2014, 05:52:39 AM
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Sorry guys. In the afternoon as we approached 500MH we started to have some orphaning issues. If you started mining < 6 hours ago then you got the short end of that stick. It's stable now, but we've removed the mining instructions from the site until we can put in a scalable fix.

Overall BTC/MH/24h was .005 which wasn't all that bad considering the numbers I'm seeing on poolpicker.eu, but still very disappointing. We're working on it 24/7. I've barely slept in days!

Thanks everyone for risking your hashes with us. We're determined to make it worth while.

Edit: also the high VARDIFF targets will get rolled back once we sort out the performance problems. 54k diff --- how many cards do you have in that box!?

Assign less hashrate to those small coins, maybe it is better if u have a history of mined coin and how much hashrate assigned to them and what was its result.

Also please add more profitable coins. There are numerous coins pool is not mining.

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March 07, 2014, 04:07:56 AM
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Any update guys??

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Coinshift added to mining pools database
Good luck, miners
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March 07, 2014, 03:02:03 PM
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lots of stats and graphs - great. but is it possible to show us the real profit graph for few past days or anything so we could easily see the % of profit over straight ltc mining.
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March 09, 2014, 03:14:12 AM
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no payout today?  edit: Just got it  :-)
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March 09, 2014, 04:09:26 AM
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We just posted a "thank you" 0.25 BTC bonus block to the pool.

We wanted to thank everyone that risked their hashes on our idea. You guys stuck with us when the going was tough and we can't thank you enough for it. With your help we think we have a chance to make a difference in the altcoin ecosystem.

We've fixed all the scaling issues we had early on and we think we're about on-par with the other multi pools as profitability (we'll see over the next few days). We still have a lot of ideas on how to improve profitability, too. We've added the BTC/Mh/day graph to the site, and we've even added some apis for those who want to graph it themselves. (Disclosure: the bonus block did affect the profitability graph)

We'll be posting another .25 BTC block tomorrow afternoon for the newcomers and those that tried us but had to switch away due to low profitability. Swing some hashes our way if you think our cause is worthy. We'll try to not let you down.

Thanks, from Coinshift
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March 09, 2014, 08:46:52 AM
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Do you have plan on adding more coins?

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March 09, 2014, 08:29:27 PM
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Absolutely. We'll be adding a few more coins this week.

Bonus block is going out in 3 hours, make sure you're mining for at least an hour before!
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March 10, 2014, 04:33:01 AM
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ive been sticking around for the past 5-6 days. ive never used a profit switching pool (mainly because i don't support their toxicity) so i can't compare profits. overall i think payouts are low, although altcoins have been in a rough spot lately... but i genuinely believe we will iron out our issues and support your cause. keep up the good work. my 2.5 mh/s is here to stay.
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March 11, 2014, 04:45:05 PM
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Been mining here for a few days now with 510kH/s, but I'm getting a very high difficulty since the past two days. My hash rate graph jumps up and down from 200 to 1000kH/s. Any plans to implement manual diff adjustment? (like -u BTCaddress.worker+difficulty as on P2Pool?)

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March 12, 2014, 05:58:07 PM
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Been mining here for a few days now with 510kH/s, but I'm getting a very high difficulty since the past two days. My hash rate graph jumps up and down from 200 to 1000kH/s. Any plans to implement manual diff adjustment? (like -u BTCaddress.worker+difficulty as on P2Pool?)

What's your address? I'll check on yours specifically.
Ideally you wouldn't have to do anything manually and vardiff would take care of everything. Our VARDIFF target is 1 share every 25 seconds, which over the course of the day should result in very low variance (60*60*24/25 = 3456 shares per day).

If yours variance is bad, we could consider lowering the vardiff target or adding manual difficulty adjustment.
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March 12, 2014, 06:32:02 PM
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Some updates:

We resolved all the problems with rejects earlier this week. Reject rates have been very low now for a few days.

We added two more coins today, FLAP and HNK. We'll be adding more this week.

Our main focus right now is keeping profitability up, but the altcoin market is really sagging. Profit-switching is really killing the market, but we don't think we were too late. Come join us and let's balance out the hashrate!
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March 12, 2014, 07:43:55 PM
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when using stratum-mining-proxy, all my BTC addresses result in "Invalid payout address".
i use mining_proxy.py with options "-cu <btcaddress> -cp x"

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sirs, my apologies;  it turns out that pooler's version of stratum-mining-proxy fails, but the slush's does not.
case closed.
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when using stratum-mining-proxy, all my BTC addresses result in "Invalid payout address".
i use mining_proxy.py with options "-cu <btcaddress> -cp x"

Can you reply with or PM me the address you're trying with?
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March 12, 2014, 09:12:39 PM
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Been mining here for a few days now with 510kH/s, but I'm getting a very high difficulty since the past two days. My hash rate graph jumps up and down from 200 to 1000kH/s. Any plans to implement manual diff adjustment? (like -u BTCaddress.worker+difficulty as on P2Pool?)

What's your address? I'll check on yours specifically.
Ideally you wouldn't have to do anything manually and vardiff would take care of everything. Our VARDIFF target is 1 share every 25 seconds, which over the course of the day should result in very low variance (60*60*24/25 = 3456 shares per day).

If yours variance is bad, we could consider lowering the vardiff target or adding manual difficulty adjustment.

Thanks for looking into this. I'm seeing more like 1 share per 1-2 minutes. I've sent you a PM with my mining address.

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March 12, 2014, 09:17:43 PM
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We're up on http://poolpicker.eu/ !
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March 12, 2014, 10:37:30 PM
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Thanks for looking into this. I'm seeing more like 1 share per 1-2 minutes. I've sent you a PM with my mining address.

You're right, you're submitting once per 60 seconds. We'll deploy an update today/tonight that will fix that.

Thanks for the report!
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March 13, 2014, 02:27:08 PM
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Profitability just spiked! Did we score a few DOGE blocks?
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Yep we hit a DOGE block!
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March 13, 2014, 04:04:54 PM
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We pushed an update last night that resolved the issue that justme27 reported. If you got a string of quick shares and VARDIFF pushed you up a tier, it would never let you back down. We can also consider lowering the target share time to 20 if people still think that's a problem.

Please keep up the feedback, it really helps us improve the pool!

With last night's update we also added some more secret sauce that should improve profitability. We'll also be adding two more coins later today.

Happy mining!
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March 13, 2014, 07:23:11 PM
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We pushed an update last night that resolved the issue that justme27 reported. If you got a string of quick shares and VARDIFF pushed you up a tier, it would never let you back down. We can also consider lowering the target share time to 20 if people still think that's a problem.

Please keep up the feedback, it really helps us improve the pool!

With last night's update we also added some more secret sauce that should improve profitability. We'll also be adding two more coins later today.

Happy mining!

Keep up the good job guys.

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March 13, 2014, 07:48:44 PM
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We're up on http://poolpicker.eu/ !

indeed and mh/s on your website dosen't match poolpicker.
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March 13, 2014, 08:01:14 PM
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It feels fishy... Is profitability really at 0.00722/BTC per MH/s while Clever's is at 0.00590?

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It feels fishy... Is profitability really at 0.00722/BTC per MH/s while Clever's is at 0.00590?

I'm wondering too. Admin announced that they had some secret improvements last night.

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It feels fishy... Is profitability really at 0.00722/BTC per MH/s while Clever's is at 0.00590?

I'm wondering too. Admin announced that they had some secret improvements last night.

It went up right after they hit a Doge block.
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March 13, 2014, 10:19:37 PM
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We pushed an update last night that resolved the issue that justme27 reported. If you got a string of quick shares and VARDIFF pushed you up a tier, it would never let you back down. We can also consider lowering the target share time to 20 if people still think that's a problem.

Please keep up the feedback, it really helps us improve the pool!

With last night's update we also added some more secret sauce that should improve profitability. We'll also be adding two more coins later today.

Happy mining!

I see it's been fixed, thanks! Share rate is steady now and the hash rate graph starts to make some sense Smiley


It feels fishy... Is profitability really at 0.00722/BTC per MH/s while Clever's is at 0.00590?

My counter is at .0032BTC confirmed since the last payout (< 20h ago), with about 500KH/s. So that seems pretty accurate.

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March 13, 2014, 10:32:58 PM
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It feels fishy... Is profitability really at 0.00722/BTC per MH/s while Clever's is at 0.00590?

I'm wondering too. Admin announced that they had some secret improvements last night.

It went up right after they hit a Doge block.

if they got that result with just a block of doge, what will happen with a lot of doge/ltc blocks Wink

seems really interesting

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March 14, 2014, 12:16:34 AM
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It feels fishy... Is profitability really at 0.00722/BTC per MH/s while Clever's is at 0.00590?

We did hit a very lucky doge block without investing much hashrate towards it last night, so the performance will appear elevated until that passes the 24 hour threshold. The graph and that number are real, but remember that the graph shows performance over the *last* 24 hours and isn't a predictor for the next 24 hours (I expect we'll continue to perform on par with the other pools).

I'm sure someone who's been mining over the last 24 hours can confirm. Also you can see the block exchange in the detailed stats view. We try to be transparent about these things.

In other news, we just added an API for retrieving individual user stats: http://coinshift.com/api/
We hope someone makes some cool stuff with that! Forum sigs, anyone?
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March 14, 2014, 07:07:01 AM
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any one else not really seeing the similar performance #s to the ones listed for trailing 24 hours?

i'm willing to give this pool some more time, but as of now (~17.5 hours in) I'm only getting about .0057/.0058 btc/mhash/day across 2 different rigs and not the roughly .007 as listed on the stats page.  I included payouts, confirmed exchanged and estimated unexchanged in my calculations

I'll check back in a few hours once my full day comes around.  I really want to believe in this pool since it is doing what a lot of the other pools should have been doing in the first place.

Would it be possible to represent profitability with additional details beyond trailing 24 hours only?  Maybe break it down hourly for the past N hours or something?  Does the  API support that time granularity or is it only on 24 hr ranges?

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I'm mining for 14.5 hours (Since last night) yielded me about 0.00432, thats about 0.00719 in calculation.

Lets see what will happen in the coming 24hours

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March 14, 2014, 02:15:28 PM
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figured I would chime back in.

reran the #s at 24 hours and i ended up with .00610 btc/mhash/day ... which was exactly what the stats page was listing at the time.

guess i just hopped on at the wrong time and missed the higher earning hours that drove the trailing 24 hrs # so high.

either way, i'll leave my rigs here for a bit and see how it goes in a few days.


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Thanks for the update, boxofspuds. Sorry you missed out on that awesome Doge block  Undecided

We just added 2 more coins: Feathercoin (FTC) and Smartcoin (SMC). More to come!

We also looked in to taking advantage of the ghash.io promotion. We've written a proxy client to take advantage of it, but they've already reduced the rewards to 1.25. Looks like Waffle may have diverted some hashes to it, which may mean we'll see an improvement in profitability on the other altcoins. We'll keep an eye on it, let us know if you have any preferences.
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please add earthcoin & flappycoin ASAP

BTW Could you please add an API to get current hash distribution of the pool?

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please add earthcoin & flappycoin ASAP

BTW Could you please add an API to get current hash distribution of the pool?

We've got Flappycoin! Added it a couple days ago. Will look in to Earthcoin.

API info: http://coinshift.com/api/

Edit: misunderstood. Yeah we can add an API for that, will get back to you.
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We lowered the threshold for DOGE to activate to ~400MH. So far, so good! Variance will be higher this way, but DOGE is currently by far the most profitable coin. If we have a long slow period we'll toss some of our own coins in to supplement. We'd like to grow past 1.5 GH so that our variance will become manageable while mining on the bigger coins.

Keep on hashin'!
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We've got Flappycoin! Added it a couple days ago. Will look in to Earthcoin.

Yeah, saw that.
I Suggest please add Earthcoin & Anoncoin. These are very profitable time to time and other pools take advantage of them.

Bad thing is that admin of coinshift is online for about 2hours every day. He/She is not around more time. We put a msg and we get a reply on the next day. i dont like this.

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I have some minor bugs/annoyances/questions:

- The "Current Allocation" circle doesn't seem to correspond with the graph right next to it. Even worse, the circle shows something entirely different when you hit F5 a few times, but the graph doesn't change accordingly. Example: http://i.imgur.com/fB7ngve.png
- The choice of colours on the coin graphs is pretty bad. Many coins have the same or very similar colours, making it hard to tell which is which. The colouring is also not consistent, different colours are used on each chart.
- Why is the BTC/MHs/day figure on poolpicker.eu so different from what's displayed on the site itself?
- Why does payout happen approx. every 25h now instead of 24h?
- Why are some coins exchanged pretty much instantly (DOGE) while others take all day? (FLAP)

And a little feature request: Would it be possible to show which coins an individual miner has mined on the "Account Info" page?


All pretty minor issues, but still I feel it's worth reporting/asking about Smiley

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Bad thing is that admin of coinshift is online for about 2hours every day. He/She is not around more time. We put a msg and we get a reply on the next day. i dont like this.

That one surprises me! Most of the time we're not spending in the forum we're working on improvements on the pool. But, we'll make more of an effort to reply on the forums here. You can also follow us on Twitter as we post smaller updates there sometimes.
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I have some minor bugs/annoyances/questions:

- The "Current Allocation" circle doesn't seem to correspond with the graph right next to it. Even worse, the circle shows something entirely different when you hit F5 a few times, but the graph doesn't change accordingly. Example: http://i.imgur.com/fB7ngve.png
- The choice of colours on the coin graphs is pretty bad. Many coins have the same or very similar colours, making it hard to tell which is which. The colouring is also not consistent, different colours are used on each chart.
- Why is the BTC/MHs/day figure on poolpicker.eu so different from what's displayed on the site itself?
- Why does payout happen approx. every 25h now instead of 24h?
- Why are some coins exchanged pretty much instantly (DOGE) while others take all day? (FLAP)

And a little feature request: Would it be possible to show which coins an individual miner has mined on the "Account Info" page?


All pretty minor issues, but still I feel it's worth reporting/asking about Smiley
These are all great suggestions (many of which we're aware of). Currently we're focusing primarily on the behind-the-scenes stuff (focusing on profitability, new coins, server stability, etc). Once we're pretty confident all that stuff is sorted out, we'll put some more work on the UI of the site.
* The allocation graph is correct, but the "current allocation" pie chart is really buggy. I almost want to take that out until we have time to fix it
* The colors will get fixed when we switch to a different graphing library. We're going to pick on that allows you to mouse over to see exact values
* Poolpicker grabs the data from our api. He only samples one point off the graph, I think.
* We're going to switch payout to another time of day so that we can make it more consistent. Unfortunately Cryptsy (and other exchanges) won't let us auto-withdraw at the moment.
* A few coins (FLAP, LEAF, LOT) are pretty hard to exchange quickly because the value per coin is <10 satoshi. If one of those coins isn't selling fast, we can't knock down the price because going from 6->5 or 3->2 satoshi per coin would be a bit hit.

We can definitely add coin values to the miner page!
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two question:

1) could u add an API to get current hash distribution of the pool?

2) Do you have any plan on adding more coins?

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two question:

1) could u add an API to get current hash distribution of the pool?

2) Do you have any plan on adding more coins?

1) We're considering that, there are definitely concerns as to whether that could create competition problems. What would you think that would be useful for?

2) We'll be adding 2-4 more coins this week. I know you're interested in EarthCoin! If anyone else has suggestions we'd love to hear them!
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I would suggest not showing which coins we are mining at all, even in graph form. Let the other pools figure things out on their own.
I've switched completely to this pool. I rely like the profit switching concept, and it seems to be working out just fine.
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two question:

1) could u add an API to get current hash distribution of the pool?

2) Do you have any plan on adding more coins?

1) We're considering that, there are definitely concerns as to whether that could create competition problems. What would you think that would be useful for?

2) We'll be adding 2-4 more coins this week. I know you're interested in EarthCoin! If anyone else has suggestions we'd love to hear them!


1) I was thinking about making a real-time stat for me and other users. maybe you can provide this api with some delay, for example hashrate distribution of last minute, not current minute.

2) My suggestion list is: Anoncoin, Earthcoin, Mooncoin, Fastcoin, Reddcoin, Netcoin, Nyancoin, Infinitecoin. Please add these 8 coin to increase pool profitability even more than any other pool.

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Pointed one of cards here, will switch the other after I get paid from other pool.  I like the idea.
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Any plans on making accounts and ability to select which coins to not auto-trade?
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Just wanted to thank you guys for making a pool I don't feel guilty for mining at.

Would it be for a future feature being not trading a certain coin? Like if I want to bank DOGE?

Thanks guys!
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Just wanted to thank you guys for making a pool I don't feel guilty for mining at.

Would it be for a future feature being not trading a certain coin? Like if I want to bank DOGE?

Thanks guys!

No plans for that at this time. We chose early on to not require signup and instead payout automatically to the BTC address that you mine with. That choice is unfortunately incompatible with choosing to keep certain coins.

There is very little lost in the trading fees, though. You should be able to convert the BTC you earn back in to any currency you'd like fairly efficiently!
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Congrats on getting 1GH/s Smiley

Right now the profit is flatlining though... I see the coins disappearing from the unexchanged graph but they don't reappear on the exchanged coins graph. What's up with that?

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Pointed my second card to your server today!  Was previously mining at middlecoin and for whatever reason I get at least 3x the amount of shares with your pool than I did with middlecoin.   So far im quite happy and plan to continue mining your pool.
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March 18, 2014, 02:08:15 PM

If i have profits less than 0.001, when I'm going to receive my payout?

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March 18, 2014, 04:43:36 PM

What is the plan with DOGE now that they hammer difficulty as soon as a pool points at them?

I see that it's coinshift is about 86% DOGE right now.
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March 19, 2014, 02:41:28 PM

Right now the profit is flatlining though... I see the coins disappearing from the unexchanged graph but they don't reappear on the exchanged coins graph. What's up with that?

That was from the unfortunate crash of Flappycoin (which as of now appears dead). Most of our unexchanged balance at the time was in Flappycoin, which is hard to sell effectively because it's value was only 2 satoshi and the exchanges don't have sub-satoshi pricing. The price eventually dropped to 0.00000001, so we sold most of it for half as much as we were showing in the unexchanged graph. As of now there are only sell orders for Flappycoin in the exchanges, no buyers.

Ideally we should have stopped mining Flappycoin earlier since it wasn't exchanging well. We've suspended both FLAP and LEAF because their prices are too low to exchange reliably.

We're learning, and we'll continue to improve our autotrading intelligence.
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What happened to FlappyCoin? Did something drastic cause it to crash? Can't you exchange Flappy to LTC then to BTC?
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March 19, 2014, 03:01:33 PM

What is the plan with DOGE now that they hammer difficulty as soon as a pool points at them?

I see that it's coinshift is about 86% DOGE right now.

That's what's great about a shifting algorithm. As the difficulty rises, we can gradually pull back from a coin and place those hashes on others, as long as there are other coins that are more profitable to mine than LTC. With enough hashrate and the right algorithm, we could even settle into a hashrate equilibrium, where we see an end to these massive spikes.

Our goal is to balance two competing factors: sustainability and profitability. The basic concept is: when one coin is more profitable than another, how much more hashrate do you give it? Right now we've got our shifting algorithm in "aggressive" mode, meaning it's more concerned about profitability. That helps us ensure that we can compete with other pools and attract miners to join us in our quest. Over time and as we have a more significant hashrate, our plan is to to see how much we can turn the dial back to sustainability without sacrificing much profitability. That will be better for the whole ecosystem and should actually improve everyone's payouts.
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What happened to FlappyCoin? Did something drastic cause it to crash? Can't you exchange Flappy to LTC then to BTC?

The difficulty swings from multipools was too much for it, I think. It's being delisted from some exchanges. Some people are still holding out hope!
http://www.reddit.com/r/flappycoin/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=464743.3480
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March 19, 2014, 04:28:44 PM

I'm sending 30Mhs to CoinShift, and it was reporting a lower hashrate but that was ok (~27Mhs). Now, for a few hours, it's reporting less than 20Mhs (including rejected hashrate).
Am I the only one to experiment this ?

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I'm sending 30Mhs to CoinShift, and it was reporting a lower hashrate but that was ok (~27Mhs). Now, for a few hours, it's reporting less than 20Mhs (including rejected hashrate).
Am I the only one to experiment this ?
I have 1.5Mhs pointed to coinshift and now in the pool stats it seems to be 1Mhs...

I also have problems with which you're saying... I think that there's a problem in the stats and payment... I don't receive anything (yet) and the pool says that is paying 0.00749 BTC/Mhs/day so it's obvious that i least i need to have ~0.0001 lol

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Im on a .5/m hasher but have received payout the last two days.  I have noticed the  hashrate stats are incorrect, sometimes  higher and sometimes lower.
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I like this pool the most out of the top five at the moment. Fast payments and a cool concept of shifting load instead of going 100% on one poor coin.

The thing I noticed so far is that multiple worker configs have a problem. If you set up youraddress.worker1 + youraddress.worker2 etc., the combined hash rate is always lower than what you'd get while not using individual worker addresses. Or that it is just a display glitch on the frontend.

BTW guys, please try to make the line colors in the graphs more static. Not a big issue but they tend to "shift" color on every page reload so far. Smiley

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Does expiry, scan-time, queue have any effect?
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I'm sending 30Mhs to CoinShift, and it was reporting a lower hashrate but that was ok (~27Mhs). Now, for a few hours, it's reporting less than 20Mhs (including rejected hashrate).

Can you PM or post your address so I can look at it? What server are you onWhere are you located?
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What is the plan with DOGE now that they hammer difficulty as soon as a pool points at them?

I see that it's coinshift is about 86% DOGE right now.

That's what's great about a shifting algorithm. As the difficulty rises, we can gradually pull back from a coin and place those hashes on others, as long as there are other coins that are more profitable to mine than LTC. With enough hashrate and the right algorithm, we could even settle into a hashrate equilibrium, where we see an end to these massive spikes.

Our goal is to balance two competing factors: sustainability and profitability. The basic concept is: when one coin is more profitable than another, how much more hashrate do you give it? Right now we've got our shifting algorithm in "aggressive" mode, meaning it's more concerned about profitability. That helps us ensure that we can compete with other pools and attract miners to join us in our quest. Over time and as we have a more significant hashrate, our plan is to to see how much we can turn the dial back to sustainability without sacrificing much profitability. That will be better for the whole ecosystem and should actually improve everyone's payouts.


That makes sense.

What I really am curious about is how you calculate profitability with their instant difficulty shift. As I am sure you know, (this is for the class Tongue) DOGE now instantly adjusts difficulty in the hopes to cause unsophisticated multipools to hop on, then instantly hop off.

Are you saying that you calculate the profitability for Coinshift after the "expected" difficulty spike before we start mining?

If so, makes total sense. Otherwise I am curious as to how it stays worth mining.

Thanks!
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March 19, 2014, 05:17:43 PM

Not a big issue but they tend to "shift" color on every page reload so far. Smiley

Hehe, yep we're aware of that. It's super annoying, but so far we've been prioritizing backend fixes rather than working on the UI. I promise we'll get around to that very soon.

There may be a quick tweak I can do that will make it better today. But in the longer term we want to switch those graphs to a better graphing lib.
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I have 1.5Mhs pointed to coinshift and now in the pool stats it seems to be 1Mhs...

I also have problems with which you're saying... I think that there's a problem in the stats and payment... I don't receive anything (yet) and the pool says that is paying 0.00749 BTC/Mhs/day so it's obvious that i least i need to have ~0.0001 lol

* Can you share your address or link us to your account page? At 0.5MH you will have some variance, so you should be seeing hashrates from 1.0-2.0MH which over the course of the day average out to 1.5

* How long has the 1.5MH been pointed there? Since we're mining a lot of DOGE at the moment which has higher variance, (blocks come every 1-2 hours) you will have to stick with it for at least 24-48 hours to see a fair report
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I have 1.5Mhs pointed to coinshift and now in the pool stats it seems to be 1Mhs...

I also have problems with which you're saying... I think that there's a problem in the stats and payment... I don't receive anything (yet) and the pool says that is paying 0.00749 BTC/Mhs/day so it's obvious that i least i need to have ~0.0001 lol

* Can you share your address or link us to your account page? At 0.5MH you will have some variance, so you should be seeing hashrates from 1.0-2.0MH which over the course of the day average out to 1.5

* How long has the 1.5MH been pointed there? Since we're mining a lot of DOGE at the moment which has higher variance, (blocks come every 1-2 hours) you will have to stick with it for at least 24-48 hours to see a fair report

Here you have: http://coinshift.com/account/1FrzQeGqWrKzwLGv9uMPVxbe9DyTs4RNQW

I can't see anything in "Estimated Unexchanged" Sad

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March 19, 2014, 05:51:12 PM

I'm seeing the same pattern as EricKennedy to say the truth. Hash rates have fallen down for the last 3 hours or so even though worker efficiencies are rock solid here. Not whining but there's something to look at over there guys. Hopefully just a frontend problem.

Edit: Fixed now.

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I'm seeing the same pattern as EricKennedy to say the truth. Hash rates have fallen down for the last 3 hours or so even though worker efficiencies are rock solid here. Not whining but there's something to look at over there guys. Hopefully just a frontend problem.

Edit: Fixed now.

Confirmed.

Also, it seemed to only be on the display. Payout was constant.
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Guys, thanks for reporting those issues. We were able to get it fixed -- sounds like two of your have confirmed it's looking good now.

@Eric your hashrate should now be reporting properly again, please let me know if it isn't.
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March 19, 2014, 07:04:19 PM

Thanks @coinshift for solving the problems!!

But 1 thing... the Current Performance (trailing 24h) it's 0.00847

Is it correct?
Thx!  Cheesy

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Looks like we've had some good luck today  Smiley DId we find another DOGE block?
Waffle is also up today, but not as much as we are!
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Looks like we've had some good luck today  Smiley DId we find another DOGE block?
Waffle is also up today, but not as much as we are!

Yep, DOGE has been performing quite well for us today!

We deployed a hash allocation algorithm change last night that we hoped would improve profitability. It performed really well overnight -- we'll see over the next 12 hours whether that was luck or a marked improvement.
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@Eric your hashrate should now be reporting properly again, please let me know if it isn't.

I'm sending approx 23Mhs to Coinshift, and I'm seeing around 16Mhs, and it's dropping...
When I'm hashing on CleverMining, I see ~22Mhs which is fine.
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Getting lots of 'job not found' on the EU server. Something up?

Pool 0 is Coinshift EU
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Somethings up one of my cards has 156stale and 62 on the other, first time its happened since ive been mining here.
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some observations after another 24 hrs mining here.  I had moved off to another pool previously, but came back and had a balance of 0, so this is fairly accurate.

right now the api is returning
"value_per_mh_24h": "0.00576"

but my actual calculations for btc/mhash/day is roughly .0064 and .0063 across 2 different rigs

I've also noticed we've been in a decline in profits for a few hours  Cry

In the meantime, I do have one request.  Would it be possible for the api page: http://coinshift.com/api/stats/performance/ to also include total payouts in btc?  I'm not looking for a "for the day" total, I'm just looking for a "since the beginning" or "from this day forward".  Essentially something that will not/never be set back to 0.

I'm writing some scripts to pull out pool vs rig performance, so it would be helpful if there was a way to determine much btc was paid out in total. 
as it stands now, I can tell how much MY last payment(s) were (all time payouts on miner page, payout_sum on api page), but I have no idea how much in total was paid out to the pool.  As far as I can tell the "Current Pool Balance" from the stats Page/value_24h from the api will get zeroed out every time there is a payout.

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March 20, 2014, 07:26:03 AM

After this night's run, all reportings are ok.
I'll keep you informed if anything happen.
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@coinshift

I think this is something you might want to integrate into the system. It would support the general idea of the pool. Some free profits with merged mining. They don't do exchange and that's where you'd come in with two efficient techniques + auto exchange.

http://manicminer.in/docs/mining

P.S. Check your inbox. Thanks.

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Seems like the bottom dropped out of the market after the ASICs were pre-order-able. Ugh.

*edit - Random thought.*

Interesting observation from watching the allocation of hash and profit/MH.

It seems like the coinchoose algorithm is fighting hard to not allocate a lot (80% +) to DOGE, but is finding hard to not do so.

We keep bouncing from a balanced distribution to a all on DOGE to keep the profit levels ok. Almost as if there is a lower limit of "throw the balance out the window" for profit MH/day.

Quick math,

DOGE = 0.00000122 @ 2:57pm PST

Estimated DOGE per MH/day = ~3537

3573 * 0.00000122 =  0.00435906 btc per MH/day

So... hmm.

Guess the market is just shit. lol
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Site down??
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Site down??

No but I guess while the system is preparing to send or while sending out payments, the site becomes slow sometimes. That's what I thought it was. It can be a coincidence of course.

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put in the url without the www and it should work.
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Seems like the bottom dropped out of the market after the ASICs were pre-order-able. Ugh.

*edit - Random thought.*

Interesting observation from watching the allocation of hash and profit/MH.

It seems like the coinchoose algorithm is fighting hard to not allocate a lot (80% +) to DOGE, but is finding hard to not do so.

We keep bouncing from a balanced distribution to a all on DOGE to keep the profit levels ok. Almost as if there is a lower limit of "throw the balance out the window" for profit MH/day.

Quick math,

DOGE = 0.00000122 @ 2:57pm PST

Estimated DOGE per MH/day = ~3537

3573 * 0.00000122 =  0.00435906 btc per MH/day

So... hmm.

Guess the market is just shit. lol

I'm glad you're watching closely, it's definitely fun to follow. The multipools cause this effect. Just look at this graph of the DOGE difficulty, for instance:
http://coinshift.com/graph/coin/difficulty/DOGE

With constant swings of over 50% difficulty, DOGE oscillates from being very profitable to very unprofitable. We have the amazing advantage of being able to fill those troughs with hashes, and start to gradually pull back as it rises above its midpoint, but you're right in that we struggle to find other coins to allocate hashes to. We're not always able to find other coins that are doing better than LTC. That's a fundamental problem with the ecosystem: they've been battling the multipools for months, and they're starting to lose.

We'll be adding a few new coins and retiring some old ones this weekend. We think that should re-invigorate things a bit! Always open to suggestions, but coins that are traded on Cryptsy tend to work the best (both in terms of BTC volume per day, and the ability to auto-trade).

Current candidates are REDD, NET, AUR. We'd like to reintroduce NEC since it seems to be doing well, but we can't seem to peer well with other NEC nodes so we get a lot of orphans. Anyone know of a node list for NEC?
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put in the url without the www and it should work.
Thanks, that's embarrassing! Fixed.
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Updates for today:

We pushed out an update that should improve our hashrate headroom dramatically. If you were previously on the EU server having having issues with not seeing your full hashrate, that should be completely resolved now. Sorry for the inconvenience, and please let us know if you try again and still have issues. We're currently processing ~3,000 shares per minute, and should have no problem scaling up past 50,000+ (fingers crossed).

We restored the EU VARDIFF to the previous target of 1 share / 25 seconds. It had been increased to 1/35 temporarily to reduce strain on the system.

We've also dropped the min VARDIFF target to 64, and it now moves in smaller increments (also 64). That should help us to support those of you with smaller rigs.

Tomorrow we plan on adding the coins we promised for this week, and removing some dead coins. If all goes well on the stability/profitability side, we'll also have some time to put in to the UI and API.
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I think the best thing to do is to see what altcoins other multipools are adding into their switcher. For any switching pool to be effective you have to keep ontop of what new promising altcoins are coming out and add them quickly to your switcher list. For example, trademybit.com does a very good job keeping on top of this if you look at their list -- it contains a lot of recently added scrypt coins. ipominer.com is another one.

At the least you should be adding spaincoin and ecc to your list because they're on the profitability train at the moment. My 2 satoshis.

Also, consider adding a multiport for scrypt adaptive-N coins. Once scrypt asic's start coming out, probably several months or sooner from now, there will likely be a migration to asic resistant coins. trademybit is the only pool I'm aware of that currently offers this. None of the other pools like wafflepool, clevermining, middlecoin etc. have this feature.
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Updates for today:

We pushed out an update that should improve our hashrate headroom dramatically. If you were previously on the EU server having having issues with not seeing your full hashrate, that should be completely resolved now. Sorry for the inconvenience, and please let us know if you try again and still have issues. We're currently processing ~3,000 shares per minute, and should have no problem scaling up past 50,000+ (fingers crossed).

We restored the EU VARDIFF to the previous target of 1 share / 25 seconds. It had been increased to 1/35 temporarily to reduce strain on the system.

We've also dropped the min VARDIFF target to 64, and it now moves in smaller increments (also 64). That should help us to support those of you with smaller rigs.

Tomorrow we plan on adding the coins we promised for this week, and removing some dead coins. If all goes well on the stability/profitability side, we'll also have some time to put in to the UI and API.

Hey Coinshift,

Any possibility to add a running total of how much BTC the pool has paid out to the api page http://coinshift.com/api/stats/performance/?
thx


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Hey Coinshift,

Any possibility to add a running total of how much BTC the pool has paid out to the api page http://coinshift.com/api/stats/performance/?
thx



If we just put this picture instead will that be OK?


Edit: Just kidding, yes I think we can add that to the API. Will post when it's done Cheesy
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I think the best thing to do is to see what altcoins other multipools are adding into their switcher. For any switching pool to be effective you have to keep ontop of what new promising altcoins are coming out and add them quickly to your switcher list. For example, trademybit.com does a very good job keeping on top of this if you look at their list -- it contains a lot of recently added scrypt coins. ipominer.com is another one.

At the least you should be adding spaincoin and ecc to your list because they're on the profitability train at the moment. My 2 satoshis.

Also, consider adding a multiport for scrypt adaptive-N coins. Once scrypt asic's start coming out, probably several months or sooner from now, there will likely be a migration to asic resistant coins. trademybit is the only pool I'm aware of that currently offers this. None of the other pools like wafflepool, clevermining, middlecoin etc. have this feature.
We are strongly considering scrypt-n as an option for expansion soon. Stay tuned for news on that, but you should expect more expansion in the scrypt coins first.

We're tracking a lot of altcoins for profitability and we'll be adding a few this weekend. If you have concrete reasoning for a specific coin or two, let us know!
To be frank, the coin must be exchanged on Cryptsy to be worthwhile to mine. Other exchanges just don't have the trade depth or the API to make it worthwhile.
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what is the Worker Difficulty?

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hashing for 24 hours, average 3.6Mh payout 0.013BTC, sorry leaving, cann't pay my electricity with this profibility
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what is the Worker Difficulty?

VARDIFF. Min 64. Diff will adjust so that you submit 1 share every 25 seconds
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Just checked my stats on Coinshift after 24 hours mining and my confirmed + unconfirmed balance is 20% lower than I would expect with my hashrate from your pool stats.
Is there a time lag on these figures?
I really like the idea of this pool, and don't want to leave but as someone else just posted, at the moment a lot of us are barely covering our electric (or not if my stats are correct) and I will have to reluctantly go back to Clever if this is not sorted, where at least I know I will get what the pool stats  say. Undecided
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Just checked my stats on Coinshift after 24 hours mining and my confirmed + unconfirmed balance is 20% lower than I would expect with my hashrate from your pool stats.
Is there a time lag on these figures?
I really like the idea of this pool, and don't want to leave but as someone else just posted, at the moment a lot of us are barely covering our electric (or not if my stats are correct) and I will have to reluctantly go back to Clever if this is not sorted, where at least I know I will get what the pool stats  say. Undecided

Hmmm, that's very strange. The block payouts are PPLNS, so it would take about an hour to get up to full speed -- however that would only account for ~3% over 24 hours. Please post or PM me your address and the hashrate reported by cgminer so I can look in to it further.
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Added 3 new coins today: AUR, KDC, RDD.

These coins have been near the top of the charts for the last few days, so I think they'll do very well. More coming soon.
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What happen i cant access coinshift dot com
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What happen i cant access coinshift dot com
The site is entirely 404 error pages at the moment...

Interested to see how long this lasts.

Edit: back up... didn't take tooo long.
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Added 3 new coins today: AUR, KDC, RDD.

These coins have been near the top of the charts for the last few days, so I think they'll do very well. More coming soon.

What about Anoncoin & Earthcoin ?

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@coinshift

I've a question:

For example, now that i am writing this post, pool is dedicated 96.5% on AUR and 0.73% on DOGE and remains on others.
Since pool has 2.5GHash, 0.73% will be about 18Mhash. It is obvious that 18Mhash cant find any DOGE block. So i think the pool algorithm should consider coin's difficulty into it's dedication's amount too (i like to call it hashrate efficiency).
It is wiser that pool assign those 18Mhash to RDD or GDC since it can be more efficient on those coins difficulty [OR] assign enough hashrate to DOGE side.

What do you think?


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March 24, 2014, 07:18:07 AM

has anyone mining on this pool been affected by the whole client redirect hijacking going through some of the other multipools?

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March 24, 2014, 08:39:15 AM

Just checked my stats on Coinshift after 24 hours mining and my confirmed + unconfirmed balance is 20% lower than I would expect with my hashrate from your pool stats.
Is there a time lag on these figures?
I really like the idea of this pool, and don't want to leave but as someone else just posted, at the moment a lot of us are barely covering our electric (or not if my stats are correct) and I will have to reluctantly go back to Clever if this is not sorted, where at least I know I will get what the pool stats  say. Undecided

Hmmm, that's very strange. The block payouts are PPLNS, so it would take about an hour to get up to full speed -- however that would only account for ~3% over 24 hours. Please post or PM me your address and the hashrate reported by cgminer so I can look in to it further.


Left for 18 hours and checked again. It is still lower than expected, so I'll keep an eye on it.
My address is18i78kvyuxVrRVufXUTs9qpLbBGmrygqSx.
Hashrate on cg miners for 3 rigs adds up to 10.4 mhz
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March 24, 2014, 09:10:48 AM

How many btc a day with 1300 kh/s ( scrypt ) .






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March 24, 2014, 12:49:33 PM

has anyone mining on this pool been affected by the whole client redirect hijacking going through some of the other multipools?

Nothing like that for now..
Mining is not affected.
We have trouble on and off accessing the main page however
Still better than having redirect and got your hash stolen.
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March 24, 2014, 01:40:02 PM

Just checked my stats on Coinshift after 24 hours mining and my confirmed + unconfirmed balance is 20% lower than I would expect with my hashrate from your pool stats.
Is there a time lag on these figures?
I really like the idea of this pool, and don't want to leave but as someone else just posted, at the moment a lot of us are barely covering our electric (or not if my stats are correct) and I will have to reluctantly go back to Clever if this is not sorted, where at least I know I will get what the pool stats  say. Undecided

Hmmm, that's very strange. The block payouts are PPLNS, so it would take about an hour to get up to full speed -- however that would only account for ~3% over 24 hours. Please post or PM me your address and the hashrate reported by cgminer so I can look in to it further.


Left for 18 hours and checked again. It is still lower than expected, so I'll keep an eye on it.
My address is18i78kvyuxVrRVufXUTs9qpLbBGmrygqSx.
Hashrate on cg miners for 3 rigs adds up to 10.4 mhz
I have realised I one of the cards has been down on one of my rigs. Think I have sorted it now.
I will stay with you if I possibly can. The way you mine is the future. The old autoswitching pools are damaging the whole cryptocurrency landscape.
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March 24, 2014, 04:35:13 PM

I ve been mining for around 8 hours hours and so far the BTC/MHash/Day is ~0.05 not 0.058-0.062+ that is advertised by the website
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March 24, 2014, 04:39:29 PM

I think the best thing to do is to see what altcoins other multipools are adding into their switcher. For any switching pool to be effective you have to keep ontop of what new promising altcoins are coming out and add them quickly to your switcher list. For example, trademybit.com does a very good job keeping on top of this if you look at their list -- it contains a lot of recently added scrypt coins. ipominer.com is another one.

At the least you should be adding spaincoin and ecc to your list because they're on the profitability train at the moment. My 2 satoshis.

Also, consider adding a multiport for scrypt adaptive-N coins. Once scrypt asic's start coming out, probably several months or sooner from now, there will likely be a migration to asic resistant coins. trademybit is the only pool I'm aware of that currently offers this. None of the other pools like wafflepool, clevermining, middlecoin etc. have this feature.
We are strongly considering scrypt-n as an option for expansion soon. Stay tuned for news on that, but you should expect more expansion in the scrypt coins first.

We're tracking a lot of altcoins for profitability and we'll be adding a few this weekend. If you have concrete reasoning for a specific coin or two, let us know!
To be frank, the coin must be exchanged on Cryptsy to be worthwhile to mine. Other exchanges just don't have the trade depth or the API to make it worthwhile.

How would you handle the switch between scrypt-n and scrypt? I am unaware of a way for the client to be aware of the pools change in type. If there is... excited...
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How would you handle the switch between scrypt-n and scrypt? I am unaware of a way for the client to be aware of the pools change in type. If there is... excited...
Scrypt is Scrypt-N (with N=10), so the stratum protocol would simply need to be extended to allow the server to communicate what Scrypt N value to use when hashing a given block.

I've been mining for around 8 hours hours and so far the BTC/MHash/Day is ~0.05 not 0.058-0.062+ that is advertised by the website
Try for longer then 8 hours...  The BTC/MHD published on the site is over the last 24 hours, so it won't be accurate for the last 8 hours.

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Any plans to add FlutterCoin (FLT) or SpainCoin (SPA) ?
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March 24, 2014, 08:42:55 PM

what happens on the site?

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what happens on the site?

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good question, site was runing yesterday
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I think it's getting DDOS attacked.
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March 24, 2014, 08:52:29 PM

that's alot of attacks today, a big exchange is also getting hit today :

Crypto Rush @TheCryptoRush
We're going into maintenance to attempt to stop this DDoS attack! ETA 30 mins.
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that's alot of attacks today, a big exchange is also getting hit today :

Crypto Rush @TheCryptoRush
We're going into maintenance to attempt to stop this DDoS attack! ETA 30 mins.

Middlecoin also got hit I believe today
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March 24, 2014, 09:01:19 PM

Do the mining still working and be accepted during the 404 ?

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March 24, 2014, 09:11:14 PM

Do the mining still working and be accepted during the 404 ?

I should not take the risk mining there right now
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March 24, 2014, 10:17:02 PM

Do the mining still working and be accepted during the 404 ?

Mining is unaffected. The web servers are completely isolated from stratum.

404s are resolved now. Sorry about that.
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March 24, 2014, 10:31:46 PM

Do the mining still working and be accepted during the 404 ?

Mining is unaffected. The web servers are completely isolated from stratum.

404s are resolved now. Sorry about that.

thanks! keep up the great work guys
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March 25, 2014, 12:20:40 AM

Just saw my miner hashing from last 11 hours with no accepted and hence no hash on site. Same happened when wafflepool was atacked hence I shifted here. Not sure what do now. May be need to shift to some unknown small pool for few days till hacking solution is sorted out.
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March 25, 2014, 05:23:09 AM

why the profitability is lower than litecoin?? why not pool is mining litecoin now?

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March 25, 2014, 07:10:54 AM

I see there is a lot of estimated unexchanged balance since yesterday, about half of total. Is this another dead coin or maybe just unresponsive exchange api?
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March 25, 2014, 12:08:21 PM

Front end is occasionally 404-ing again... Mining seems unaffected though.

Why are you hodling all that AUR? Dump quickly before the mega-crash! Shocked

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March 25, 2014, 01:45:12 PM

Down to 0.004BTC/MH/day doesn't look good...
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March 25, 2014, 01:58:33 PM

why pool not mining pure ltc right now?

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March 25, 2014, 02:22:34 PM

I think earning is stuck for 12 hours now. ALmost like not mining anything What's up coinshift ?
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March 25, 2014, 02:34:04 PM

Front end is occasionally 404-ing again... Mining seems unaffected though.

Why are you hodling all that AUR? Dump quickly before the mega-crash! Shocked

The the AUR is still immature. Multipools keep stranding it at a super high diff for 5-6 hours: https://aur.cryptocoins.at/explorer/chain/auroracoin
We've disabled it for the time being since it's so difficult to exchange.
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March 25, 2014, 02:35:00 PM

why pool not mining pure ltc right now?

We skip any coins that we can't expect at least 1 block per 1.5 hours. However, with the market the way it is, we've bumped that to 2 hours so that LTC will activate.
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March 25, 2014, 02:46:25 PM

Just saw my miner hashing from last 11 hours with no accepted and hence no hash on site. Same happened when wafflepool was atacked hence I shifted here. Not sure what do now. May be need to shift to some unknown small pool for few days till hacking solution is sorted out.

We've been investigating these reports... Were shares showing accepted on the miner? What software and version?
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March 25, 2014, 05:25:05 PM

@coinshift

I've a question:

For example, now that i am writing this post, pool is dedicated 96.5% on AUR and 0.73% on DOGE and remains on others.
Since pool has 2.5GHash, 0.73% will be about 18Mhash. It is obvious that 18Mhash cant find any DOGE block. So i think the pool algorithm should consider coin's difficulty into it's dedication's amount too (i like to call it hashrate efficiency).
It is wiser that pool assign those 18Mhash to RDD or GDC since it can be more efficient on those coins difficulty [OR] assign enough hashrate to DOGE side.

What do you think?

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March 25, 2014, 07:20:28 PM

@coinshift

I've a question:

For example, now that i am writing this post, pool is dedicated 96.5% on AUR and 0.73% on DOGE and remains on others.
Since pool has 2.5GHash, 0.73% will be about 18Mhash. It is obvious that 18Mhash cant find any DOGE block. So i think the pool algorithm should consider coin's difficulty into it's dedication's amount too (i like to call it hashrate efficiency).
It is wiser that pool assign those 18Mhash to RDD or GDC since it can be more efficient on those coins difficulty [OR] assign enough hashrate to DOGE side.

What do you think?

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March 25, 2014, 07:55:47 PM

Last night, I tried to get on this pool and it kept coming up dead on sgminer.  I'll double check my settings but was there an issue last night?  I tried the backup and the regular address. 
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March 26, 2014, 12:48:24 AM

@coinshift
For example, now that i am writing this post, pool is dedicated 96.5% on AUR and 0.73% on DOGE and remains on others.
Since pool has 2.5GHash, 0.73% will be about 18Mhash. It is obvious that 18Mhash cant find any DOGE block. So i think the pool algorithm should consider coin's difficulty into it's dedication's amount too (i like to call it hashrate efficiency).
It is wiser that pool assign those 18Mhash to RDD or GDC since it can be more efficient on those coins difficulty [OR] assign enough hashrate to DOGE side.

What do you think?

That's a common question. Since finding a block is an independent random chance, you shouldn't slice up the hashrate and try to look at pieces independently across small time periods (in this case, the instantaneous DOGE hashrate). Statistically there is no benefit to maintaining some "minimum" instantaneous hashrate on a single coin.

We do manage the pool's "hashrate efficiency", but it matters only in aggregate across all the coins we're mining and across a longer time period. In other words, you should look at the weighted average of the coin difficulties, not any one coin. For example, imagine we had 2000 altcoins, all with the same difficulty as DOGE. We then allocate 0.05% to each. If you look at an individual coin you would think the probability of finding a block would be quite low. However, in aggregate, we'll actually find blocks quite often -- this is because the risk/reward ratio for each unit of hashrate is profitable.

Another way to think about it is thinking of it over a longer timescale. Instantaneously at some points it was .73% DOGE and others it was 80% DOGE, but over the course of the day it averaged out to 700MH/sec.
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March 26, 2014, 07:04:09 PM

Whatever you are doing now you're doing it wrong profitability is below ltc and has been so for more than 24  hours.
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March 26, 2014, 07:27:07 PM

Been running cgminer and my avg hashing rate is 2.833Mh/s but combined accepted/rejected hashrate per your site seems to be hovering between 2350 and 2500Mh/s.  I'm fairly new to mining but having tried out Middlecoin, Cleverming and WafflePool for a couple days each, they all virtually nailed it.  Any suggestions as to why I'm coming in below and/or what to do about it?
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March 26, 2014, 10:31:04 PM

Been running cgminer and my avg hashing rate is 2.833Mh/s but combined accepted/rejected hashrate per your site seems to be hovering between 2350 and 2500Mh/s.  I'm fairly new to mining but having tried out Middlecoin, Cleverming and WafflePool for a couple days each, they all virtually nailed it.  Any suggestions as to why I'm coming in below and/or what to do about it?
Compare pool reported hashrate to WU, not hashrate.  See if that matches more closely.
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March 27, 2014, 06:01:39 AM

Been running cgminer and my avg hashing rate is 2.833Mh/s but combined accepted/rejected hashrate per your site seems to be hovering between 2350 and 2500Mh/s.  I'm fairly new to mining but having tried out Middlecoin, Cleverming and WafflePool for a couple days each, they all virtually nailed it.  Any suggestions as to why I'm coming in below and/or what to do about it?

What's your address? I'll take a look. If you could post a screenshot of your rig hashrate that would be helpful too.
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What's your address? I'll take a look. If you could post a screenshot of your rig hashrate that would be helpful too.

Nowhere to upload an image to at the moment but a screen copy as of 12:33pm, PST.  I did drop the Intensity down to 18 from 20 and that has seemed to matchup with the site a little better (as well as produce far fewer rejected).  

 cgminer version 3.7.2 - Started: [2014-03-27 00:01:32] - [0 days 07:31:33]
 Pool management GPU management Settings Display options Quit        
 (5s):2.753M (avg):2.772Mh/s | A:1165248  R:51456  HW:0  WU:2723.8/m  WUE:98.3%
 ST: 1  SS: 0  NB: 869  LW: 10746  GF: 1  RF: 0
 Connected to us-west.coinshift.com diff 1.02K with stratum as user 1Q697sCKUo1pp3GXGxPbJN6GJPJz97R1LE
 Coinshift  Diff: 5.42K  Started: [07:32:03]  Best share: 3.12M
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 GPU 0:  69.0C 2923RPM | 457.4K/461.9Kh/s | R:5.5% HW:0 WU: 449.8/m I:18
 GPU 1:  73.0C 4325RPM | 458.8K/462.1Kh/s | R:2.1% HW:0 WU: 431.7/m I:18
 GPU 2:  72.0C 2990RPM | 457.9K/462.1Kh/s | R:6.0% HW:0 WU: 442.5/m I:18
 GPU 3:  70.0C 2800RPM | 458.7K/462.1Kh/s | R:3.8% HW:0 WU: 432.2/m I:18
 GPU 4:  61.0C 2865RPM | 458.2K/462.1Kh/s | R:2.9% HW:0 WU: 497.9/m I:18
 GPU 5:  51.0C 2902RPM | 457.9K/462.2Kh/s | R:5.0% HW:0 WU: 469.8/m I:18
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 [07:28:22] Accepted 0316666f Diff 21.2K/1024 GPU 4 at Coinshift
 [07:28:41] Accepted 3ac657e9 Diff 1.11K/1024 GPU 3 at Coinshift
 [07:28:57] Accepted 136579d4 Diff 3.38K/1024 GPU 1 at Coinshift
 [07:29:21] Accepted 252e909b Diff 1.76K/1024 GPU 3 at Coinshift
 [07:30:46] Accepted 0451cf3d Diff 15.2K/1024 GPU 3 at Coinshift
 [07:30:59] Accepted 1a6606db Diff 2.48K/1024 GPU 3 at Coinshift
 [07:31:02] Accepted 1b67253d Diff 2.39K/1024 GPU 4 at Coinshift
 [07:31:02] Accepted 3793b251 Diff 1.18K/1024 GPU 4 at Coinshift
 [07:31:08] Accepted 1b74023b Diff 2.39K/1024 GPU 0 at Coinshift
 [07:31:10] Accepted 16fce4ca Diff 2.85K/1024 GPU 5 at Coinshift
 [07:31:12] Accepted 15f39765 Diff 2.98K/1024 GPU 5 at Coinshift
 [07:31:25] Accepted 254595ba Diff 1.76K/1024 GPU 5 at Coinshift
 [07:31:43] Accepted 01f7101f Diff 33.4K/1024 GPU 4 at Coinshift
 [07:31:47] Accepted 2a1d6620 Diff 1.56K/1024 GPU 0 at Coinshift
 [07:32:15] Accepted 0652f0da Diff 10.4K/1024 GPU 2 at Coinshift
 [07:32:18] Accepted 3b800ef8 Diff 1.1K/1024 GPU 4 at Coinshift
 [07:32:44] Accepted 1579bf53 Diff 3.05K/1024 GPU 2 at Coinshift

Phzi - Pool hashrate as of this moment is 3091.675 Mh/s.  Website is 2301.8 Kh/s with a rejected of 54.8 Kh/s.
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March 27, 2014, 09:07:06 AM

WU:2723.8/m  WUE:98.3%


Damn!

Thats a good WUE!
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March 27, 2014, 09:17:10 AM

WU:2723.8/m  WUE:98.3%


Damn!

Thats a good WUE!

We had some luck with that eh?  Grin  If only it was always like that.
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March 27, 2014, 04:06:33 PM

How much longer are we going to sit with this unexchanged balance?
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March 27, 2014, 06:15:29 PM

Whatever you are doing now you're doing it wrong profitability is below ltc and has been so for more than 24  hours.
Yep, fair enough. We've been very disappointed with the performance over the last day. We trimmed out some poor performing coins last night and things are much better today. We'll keep you posted.
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March 27, 2014, 06:35:34 PM

Now BTC / DAY ?






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March 27, 2014, 07:27:22 PM

How much longer are we going to sit with this unexchanged balance?

The AUR is finally mature so it will exchange today.
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March 27, 2014, 07:40:46 PM

Now BTC / DAY ?
We're at .00498 right now which is good considering we're above Wafflepool and CleverMining (as of this very moment). I expect we'll get a bit above .005 today.
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March 27, 2014, 08:26:25 PM

Now BTC / DAY ?
We're at .00498 right now which is good considering we're above Wafflepool and CleverMining (as of this very moment). I expect we'll get a bit above .005 today.

Your reasoning for not mining LTC when below LTC profitability is sound but those others don't have a clue even when they have the power to mine it. I hope you reach enough hash rate soon. I'd like to suggest that you make the preparations to do what others can't, when the time comes.

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March 27, 2014, 08:56:51 PM

Pointed 3.6MH/s your way to see how your pool works out for me.  If it's good over the next 24H, will point the rest of my hash power over.  I like the idea of the pool, it makes sense.

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What's your address? I'll take a look. If you could post a screenshot of your rig hashrate that would be helpful too.
Website is 2301.8 Kh/s with a rejected of 54.8 Kh/s.

Everything looks OK to me -- perhaps when you checked the site you were on the lower end of the variance. When I checked your hashrate was reported as >2900Kh: http://cl.ly/Uh37

The site currently reports the hashrate as calculated over the last 20 minutes. There is going to be some variance there, which is why you see the graph oscillate between 2300 and 3000. Maybe we need to increase that so it gives you a better picture of your actual hashrate. The problem there is that we don't want it to take a long time for new users to see their hashrate ramp up. There is definitely a way to make it work for both, so we'll work on it.

To double check I calculated your hashrate over the last hour:
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mysql> select 65536*sum(difficulty)/(60*60)/1000000 as mh  from shares where username="1Q697sCKUo1pp3GXGxPbJN6GJPJz97R1LE" and time > date_sub(now(), interval 60 minute);
+--------------------+
| mh                 |
+--------------------+
| 2.7589199644444444 |
+--------------------+
1 row in set (0.35 sec)
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March 28, 2014, 08:15:35 AM

I send you PM and tried to contact you via twitter:

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Hey.
I used the following address at your pool:
http://coinshift.com/account/1Nb8p8GgzRrj9bZNzx21BGVxSW2BZXLXws/

It's from bitcoin.de my favourite exchange.
Now i would like to use another address from my personal wallet.

I stopped mining at that address, because i got 0.00092154 confimed BTC and 0.00039559 unconfirmed BTC.

I thought it would confirm, so that i reach the minimum payment amount, but nothing happens.

Still the same since more than 24 hours.

Could you please take a look at it?

best regards
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Hi-
Why is my unexchanged balance going down but my exchange balance is flat lining?   It rings true in the numbers that are also shown on my stats page as well.

http://i.imgur.com/ikoQaBl.jpg
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Hi-
Why is my unexchanged balance going down but my exchange balance is flat lining?   It rings true in the numbers that are also shown on my stats page as well.



AUR is currently stuck (very slow blocks) and quickly dropping in value at the same time.

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March 29, 2014, 06:32:10 PM

So from what i understand it's better to mine LTC than using this pool, right?
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March 29, 2014, 06:55:36 PM

My payout is not coming  Angry

0.04328193    Sat 29 Mar 2014 18:44    a4020e15b94a2b82c5c0cb8666fd5a8962c0e9d3c3f5e60614f6182e8d025887

Transaction not found !!!!!

My addr : 1QAz5PGav9Qp9n5Yc8bqn6aHhTQDMb8sUS

Thx

EDIT : it's OK ... pending ... thx Smiley

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March 29, 2014, 09:37:49 PM

https://twitter.com/CoinShift/status/449633979314868224

"We _finally_ exchanged the AUR, but for way less than we expected when we mined it. Felt terrible so we doubled it out of our own pockets."


That is really nice of you guys! I didn't see a post about it here, so thought people should know. Cheesy


Two questions:

1 - Will that come in a separate payment or get rolled into our normal ones? It will be hard to tell either way.

2 - Can we add LTC to the rotation? Since we compare against it as a benchmark it would make sense to incorporate it into the algorithm so that in the event alt coins are doing really bad, we can supplement it with LTC. If the Coinshift algorithm is smart enough it should be able to do this and keep things balanced. Smiley
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March 30, 2014, 02:40:48 AM

There aren't enough uptodate scrypt coins on the switcher. Please add a link to this thread on your "about" page. Consider going with a fee of 1.5% instead to give your pool some kind of incentive to mine there. At the moment coinshift is doing substantially worse than clevermining.

Also show the profitability calculations of how coins are being selected. eg. Something like coin profitability vs LTC like your example under "about".
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There aren't enough uptodate scrypt coins on the switcher. Please add a link to this thread on your "about" page. Consider going with a fee of 1.5% instead to give your pool some kind of incentive to mine there. At the moment coinshift is doing substantially worse than clevermining.

Also show the profitability calculations of how coins are being selected. eg. Something like coin profitability vs LTC like your example under "about".

Clevermining reporting .00461 BTC/mh/day on thier website at this very moment.
CoinShift reporting .00496 BTC/mh/day.

I don't see how that means "substantially worse". If anything they are the two closest matched profitability wise and it really comes down to luck and hashrate and personal preference between the two. I see no reason for your argument.

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March 30, 2014, 03:48:30 PM

I don't know why there are so many complainers about this pool. I, for one, will be pointing my hashrates at CoinShift for the forseeable future. The feature that does it for me is the lower daily minimum payout. Every other pool I looked at has a 0.01 BTC minimum for a daily payout. CoinShift is set at 0.001 BTC. I'm not the kind of person who's got a warehouse somewhere with a massive number of mining rigs. I'm just hobby-mining with my gaming rig. 300 kh/s is not enough to get 0.01 BTC in 24h, especially if I use it for gaming instead. But it IS enough to get 0.001 (just a little bit more than that, actually) every day.

I literally signed up to this forum for this one post. I was tired of seeing everyone complaining about not enough btc/mh/24h. Fuck, try doing it with 1/3 of a MH! Quit bitchin', you're all getting paid to do close to (but not quite) nothing! This pool is about saving the coins, if I read the Mission Statement right, and not about being the most profitable, though they're trying (and managing) to keep up with the rest of them.

If Pool X or Pool Y is so much better than this one, go hang out on THEIR forum page. Stop giving bad reviews that wrongly influence people away from CoinShift.

Oh, and @Coinshift, whoever you are, you can rest assured that your pool's total hashrate will never drop below 300kh/s. It's not much, but I'm not going anywhere Smiley Except for a couple of my smaller hashrate miners, just to fill the minimum at the other pools I tried.

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March 31, 2014, 02:28:03 AM

Hi  Coinshift- 

I have not received a payout in a couple days.  I just want my remaining balance as I have stopped mining.   I've emailed you but have received no reply.

Please send me my balance so I can combine it with the BTC I already have and cash in.

http://coinshift.com/account/1AxpUz56WxDwfnQCZLQLbCYrdnuXxSuzdD/

Thanks,
Clocker
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March 31, 2014, 05:45:57 PM

I see a payment on my stats page with this transaction ID from earlier today:
b2026de0976e8512841b51cb512ad22ff1350065af49855eca686208a33683a0

But my wallet, Blockchain.info, and other explorers like Blockr.io and Bitcoinchain are not seeing this transaction on the chain.

Examples:
https://blockchain.info/tx/b2026de0976e8512841b51cb512ad22ff1350065af49855eca686208a33683a0
http://bitcoinchain.com/block_explorer/search?search=b2026de0976e8512841b51cb512ad22ff1350065af49855eca686208a33683a0

Usually if the issue is just with Blockchain.info, the other block explorers show the transaction, but in this case, none of the explorers show that transaction.

Is there an issue with your bitcoind instance or payment system?


UPDATE: Nevermind... the transaction finally hit the blockchain and has 2 confirmations, but it took a long long time to get there. 

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Well, I hope switching hash this way will help the market as a whole, because profitability sucks balls no matter which of the switch-pools I mine at.    Undecided
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April 01, 2014, 06:26:29 AM

https://twitter.com/CoinShift/status/449633979314868224

"We _finally_ exchanged the AUR, but for way less than we expected when we mined it. Felt terrible so we doubled it out of our own pockets."


That is really nice of you guys! I didn't see a post about it here, so thought people should know. Cheesy
Thanks for relaying that. It was a huge bummer -- fortunately AUR has hit their hard-fork which halves the block time (and maturity time) in addition to adding a better difficulty adjustment algorithm. Hopefully we'll see that coin get much healthier over the next couple of weeks and we can re-enable it.


Two questions:

1 - Will that come in a separate payment or get rolled into our normal ones? It will be hard to tell either way.

2 - Can we add LTC to the rotation? Since we compare against it as a benchmark it would make sense to incorporate it into the algorithm so that in the event alt coins are doing really bad, we can supplement it with LTC. If the Coinshift algorithm is smart enough it should be able to do this and keep things balanced. Smiley
It was rolled in to your normal one -- if you mined some of the AUR you should have seen a sharp jump in your balance.
LTC is in the rotation, but only if we hit a certain hashrate threshold. The problem we have with LTC is that our hashrate isn't quite high enough to mine it without luck being a significant factor. We had a period of bad luck while mining LTC that dropped our BTC/MH below the LTC line, which drops our hashrate even more and the problem compounds! However, things have definitely stabilized recently and our hashrate is doing pretty well.
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April 01, 2014, 06:44:33 AM

Hi  Coinshift-  

I have not received a payout in a couple days.  I just want my remaining balance as I have stopped mining.   I've emailed you but have received no reply.

Please send me my balance so I can combine it with the BTC I already have and cash in.

http://coinshift.com/account/1AxpUz56WxDwfnQCZLQLbCYrdnuXxSuzdD/

Thanks,
Clocker

Hi Clocker -- your remaining balance has been sent, thanks for mining with us.
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April 01, 2014, 06:51:34 AM

Adding two more coins tomorrow, let us know if you have suggestions!

Keep in mind that they must be traded on an exchange with a trade API and have a fair amount of volume in BTC.
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April 01, 2014, 07:06:12 PM

Couple questions:

Is there something wrong with the website? Some of the graphs on the stats page (both pool and personal) are not loading, and the page itself never finishes loading...

[EDIT] Never mind. A restart of my laptop fixed that particular issue...but not the other one...

And, if not, is there some other reason the graph (and my wallet) shows no payout today?

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^ yeah no pay out today or its extremely delayed?

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@CoinShift

I have a suggestion:

I'm not sure how difficult this might be to implement, but there's something I noticed when I switched on debug mode for my miners today. Keep in mind that I run each miner instance (minerd, cudaminer) as a different worker id, and each computer as well. Every miner, when it connects for the first time, gets a diff of 256, and then adjusts diff to the miner after a share (or a few?) are submitted. With some of my workers, it takes a long time for that to happen at 256. Yes, I know I could always combine them into one worker id, but then it would be more difficult to track each thread's performance, and nearly impossible to identify at-a-glance which one is not mining; this helps keep downtime to a minimum.

What I'm wondering, is it possible for the pool server to 'remember' the last known diff value for each miner? Or, perhaps implement the d=x schema I've seen at other pools?

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Just got my payout! I guess somebody was late to work today?

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Just got my payout! I guess somebody was late to work today?

You need to relax about your payouts. lol
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Just got my payout! I guess somebody was late to work today?

You need to relax about your payouts. lol

And you need to relax about your bossiness? Roll Eyes

It's not like I've been here for months, bitching each day if it's even a second late. I mentioned it once. Well, twice, when I got it...And I wasn't the only one.

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Just got my payout! I guess somebody was late to work today?

You need to relax about your payouts. lol

And you need to relax about your bossiness? Roll Eyes

It's not like I've been here for months, bitching each day if it's even a second late. I mentioned it once. Well, twice, when I got it...And I wasn't the only one.

I was joking mate...
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I was joking mate...

Well, either that was a very subtle joke, or I just didn't get it...

Perhaps, this is another example of missing <sarcasm></sarcasm> tags? This is text. Tone-of-voice doesn't translate that well...

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Just got my payout! I guess somebody was late to work today?

You need to relax about your payouts. lol

And you need to relax about your bossiness? Roll Eyes

It's not like I've been here for months, bitching each day if it's even a second late. I mentioned it once. Well, twice, when I got it...And I wasn't the only one.

Eventually everyone turns into a bitchy boy
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Eventually everyone turns into a bitchy boy

It isn't eventually yet. I've made a grand total of four (now five) posts. I've been a member for only three days. I know everyone likes to pick on the new guy, but feel free to move on to the next suck--I mean, target...

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April 04, 2014, 04:39:33 AM

something happened earlier today where my hashrate was cut in half, it appears its only showing my one card and cpu miner hashrate not the second card.  My address is 1YQh5CQWz9eEtVCLxcTHmjqNqrdtTYxZU  Please let me know whats going on.
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something happened earlier today where my hashrate was cut in half, it appears its only showing my one card and cpu miner hashrate not the second card.  My address is 1YQh5CQWz9eEtVCLxcTHmjqNqrdtTYxZU  Please let me know whats going on.

Sounds like an impossible question to answer from the pool operator's side.  Whenever the pool is almost 100% litecoin or doge, my hashrate is exactly as expected.  For other coins with more variance my effective hashrate drops as much as 5-10%.

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My chart holds steady as far back as I can see it (been mining here awhile).  Just have that 4 hour dip in half for some reason, not a big deal could be a lot of things.  Doesn't hurt to ask though.
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something happened earlier today where my hashrate was cut in half, it appears its only showing my one card and cpu miner hashrate not the second card.  My address is 1YQh5CQWz9eEtVCLxcTHmjqNqrdtTYxZU  Please let me know whats going on.

There's been some hash-redirect attacks on other pools, lately. I don't know if this problem affects coinshift, but it might. If it hasn't already come back online, the first thing I would suggest is restart your miner software, or perhaps the whole computer. That should get your hardware pointed back at coinshift, if it was redirected...

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Use the latest version of Kalroth's cgminer fork and add this to your config, just in case.

"no-client-reconnect" : true,

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Use the latest version of Kalroth's cgminer fork and add this to your config, just in case.

"no-client-reconnect" : true,

This!

I'm using an nVidia card, so I'm using cpu-miner and cudaminer. Is there an equivalent definition for those? Is it even an issue?

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Now that I can see all the chart for the day the hash dips down in a straight line over several hours?
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Now that I can see all the chart for the day the hash dips down in a straight line over several hours?

Most likely you have something wrong going on with the system. It could be caused by so many things, it's impossible to make any suggestions other than monitoring it closely to find out what it is.

Are your cards cool enough so they don't throttle?
Are you load/balancing with another pool?
What's your ping? Your connection might be dropping.

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No idea about nvidia versions bcboy.

>> nope
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No idea about nvidia versions bcboy.

I haven't seen it happen to me yet, and I haven't seen any posts about it by nVidia miners. Maybe its like how there's more viruses for Windows than Mac. Not NEARLY as many people use nVidia for mining as those who use AMD (and therefore cgminer). Target the larger audience, so to speak.


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April 05, 2014, 06:10:54 PM

Figured it out!  Last night the monitor wouldn't resume after sleep so I checked the connections.  I didn't screw I the dvi plug and the kitten got behind the pc and left the plug barely making a connection lol.   Must of kicked screwed everything for up awhile!
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No idea about nvidia versions bcboy.

I haven't seen it happen to me yet, and I haven't seen any posts about it by nVidia miners. Maybe its like how there's more viruses for Windows than Mac. Not NEARLY as many people use nVidia for mining as those who use AMD (and therefore cgminer). Target the larger audience, so to speak.


You'd be spot on if it wasn't a protocol related exploit. It affects even ASICs if the pool is compromised. Smiley

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omgboss, if you're on Windows 7, disable ULPS so that you won't have to connect a monitor or a dummy plug with resistors attached to keep your GPUs alive. You're lucky them cats didn't cause more damage but keep them away from the rig. lol

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The plug that came undone is my primary card for display that I also mine with.  I use the faster card in the second slot, doesn't need dummy plugs or anything.
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I haven't seen it happen to me yet, and I haven't seen any posts about it by nVidia miners. Maybe its like how there's more viruses for Windows than Mac. Not NEARLY as many people use nVidia for mining as those who use AMD (and therefore cgminer). Target the larger audience, so to speak.


You'd be spot on if it wasn't a protocol related exploit. It affects even ASICs if the pool is compromised. Smiley

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So, theoretically, I'd have the same risk as the AMD-miners? Thank God for stats pages!

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April 08, 2014, 09:12:56 PM

So I just went to check out my payout for today on the coinshift site...it says the payout was made as usual.

However, when I went and checked my wallet, there was no payment made to me :/.

When I click on the tx ID link that takes you to block explorer, it says transaction not found. Clicking on any of the previous tx IDs from different days shows valid transactions on the blockchain.

Anybody else having this problem? I would really like my bitcoin that I earned >:[
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something happened earlier today where my hashrate was cut in half[...]
Same here, any solution ?

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something happened earlier today where my hashrate was cut in half[...]
Same here, any solution ?

Um, yes? The solution, apparently, is to not have kittens...

Figured it out!  Last night the monitor wouldn't resume after sleep so I checked the connections.  I didn't screw I the dvi plug and the kitten got behind the pc and left the plug barely making a connection lol.   Must of kicked screwed everything for up awhile!

Good thing you read the whole thread, huh?  Roll Eyes

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Anybody else notice how last night's work is almost completely unexchanged?

Not that I don't trust him, but it's been a LONG time since I've seen a post by CoinShift. This would be the perfect time to speak up!

[EDIT: The majority of my unexchanged just paid out a few minutes ago. Is this the same sort of thing I saw at Middlecoin, Shift? A manual trade to get the best value? Should we expect to see more of this?]

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April 11, 2014, 01:41:53 AM

I think the best thing to do is to see what altcoins other multipools are adding into their switcher. For any switching pool to be effective you have to keep ontop of what new promising altcoins are coming out and add them quickly to your switcher list. For example, trademybit.com does a very good job keeping on top of this if you look at their list -- it contains a lot of recently added scrypt coins. ipominer.com is another one.

At the least you should be adding spaincoin and ecc to your list because they're on the profitability train at the moment. My 2 satoshis.

Also, consider adding a multiport for scrypt adaptive-N coins. Once scrypt asic's start coming out, probably several months or sooner from now, there will likely be a migration to asic resistant coins. trademybit is the only pool I'm aware of that currently offers this. None of the other pools like wafflepool, clevermining, middlecoin etc. have this feature.

I would like to see some of my proposed suggestions implemented. Especially the part on keeping on top of new altcoins released. You can be lazy and just see what ipominer.com is adding as a guideline to save some research effort.
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Are the stats not working?  Current balances haven't updated since the last payout.

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Are the stats not working?  Current balances haven't updated since the last payout.

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April 12, 2014, 08:15:18 AM

I'm new to this so I'm apologising ahead for my noobness but what's going on? Why is it "flat lining"?
Or not updating, don't know what's the best way of describing it, but I've checked as much as I can and there seems to be nothing wrong on my end, it's mining, chugging away and nothing but a straight line...

Edit: I can't honestly be accurate, but because I keep on checking the stats, I think it stopped changing around 3 hours after the last payout?

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April 12, 2014, 11:29:10 AM

I'm new to this so I'm apologising ahead for my noobness but what's going on? Why is it "flat lining"?
Or not updating, don't know what's the best way of describing it, but I've checked as much as I can and there seems to be nothing wrong on my end, it's mining, chugging away and nothing but a straight line...

Edit: I can't honestly be accurate, but because I keep on checking the stats, I think it stopped changing around 3 hours after the last payout?

Wondering the same.. there's huge estimated unexchanged spike now in the end of the flat line. Same wonky graph on personal and global level. Some coin causing trouble? Like we've mined single coin for hours which just all suddenly got mature.
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April 12, 2014, 03:47:59 PM

There's been all sorts of strangeness going on with the stats the past couple days.

On the 10th, I saw a huge rise in unexchanged, with no rise in exchanged, until very suddenly, it all got exchanged. Then, on the next payout, I only got a partial, with about a third of my balance not getting paid out. The next payout, I got everything, like normal, but then it all flat-lined, as several people have mentioned already. This morning, I found that my unexchanged had jumped up quite a bit, to about the level I would have expected if it hadn't flat-lined.

I'm not really sure what's going on, if its a problem with the pool itself, or just the stats. And because we haven't heard a word from CoinShift about it (I've been checking reddit and Twitter, as well as here), I have to admit I'm starting to lose confidence in this pool.

Where the hell are you, Shifty? Talk to us! Enquiring minds want to know!

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April 12, 2014, 06:25:42 PM

One thing I really liked about this pool was the communication.  Now with the lack of it coupled with low payouts/incorrect stats I've already pointed one card somewhere else. 
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April 12, 2014, 06:34:19 PM

One thing I really liked about this pool was the communication.  Now with the lack of it coupled with low payouts/incorrect stats I've already pointed one card somewhere else.  

You're not the only one. The pool's hashrate has been steadily declining all day. I'm not ready to go elsewhere just yet, but if this continues for too long, I'm going to have to do so...


WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU, SHIFTY?!?!

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April 12, 2014, 09:10:17 PM

Finally! Word from the Shiftmeister!

https://twitter.com/CoinShift

"Something is blocking the unexchanged stats from updating, we're looking in to it. Holding back the payout that's solved."

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April 13, 2014, 01:47:19 AM

Finally! Word from the Shiftmeister!

https://twitter.com/CoinShift

"Something is blocking the unexchanged stats from updating, we're looking in to it. Holding back the payout that's solved."

ugh this is how middle coin started... then he banished completely i hope i am wrong.

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April 13, 2014, 03:20:44 PM

Not much news since the last tweet.. at least stats are showing something is moving somewhere.
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April 13, 2014, 04:15:16 PM

I don't know why there are so many complainers about this pool. I, for one, will be pointing my hashrates at CoinShift for the forseeable future.

I literally signed up to this forum for this one post. I was tired of seeing everyone complaining about not enough btc/mh/24h. Fuck, try doing it with 1/3 of a MH! Quit bitchin',

If Pool X or Pool Y is so much better than this one, go hang out on THEIR forum page. Stop giving bad reviews that wrongly influence people away from CoinShift.

Oh, and @Coinshift, whoever you are, you can rest assured that your pool's total hashrate will never drop below 300kh/s. It's not much, but I'm not going anywhere Smiley Except for a couple of my s