The Rock Trading Scam www.therocktrading.com Exchange Review fraud truffa

[Coinfan]

If there is any chance Rock Trading will have some sort of a positive reputation in the coming days and weeks

He will have more preeminent issues to hope for than his reputation.

This person was condemned to 1 year in prison just for saying to the Italian authorities that he was married to someone who in reality engaged in prostitution:

https://renatodisa.com/corte-di-cassazione-sezione-vi-sentenza-13-ottobre-2014-n-42767-false-dichiarazioni-in-atti-destinati-allautorita-giudiziaria-integrate-anche-se-le-circostanze-non-vere-riguardano-lindagato/

I wonder how much the Rock CFO will get for telling several lies on a completely absurd complain used in order to trick Opstart and get the 1.5 million raised.

The person above ended up with a suspended sentence. Let's find out if the Rock CFO will have the same luck or his case is too serious to evade effective prison time.

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[eliale]

This person was condemned to 1 year in prison just for saying to the Italian authorities that he was married to someone who in reality engaged in prostitution:

https://renatodisa.com/corte-di-cassazione-sezione-vi-sentenza-13-ottobre-2014-n-42767-false-dichiarazioni-in-atti-destinati-allautorita-giudiziaria-integrate-anche-se-le-circostanze-non-vere-riguardano-lindagato/

I wonder how much the Rock CFO will get for telling several lies on a completely absurd complain used in order to trick Opstart and get the 1.5 million raised.

The person above ended up with a suspended sentence. Let's find out if the Rock CFO will have the same luck or his case is too serious to evade effective prison time.

Please note that, as of today, there is only one active criminal procedure against the OP as per the following link:

 https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AcIIsoWP5mcMCApKMMPtTokkXfS9eyIz?usp=sharing

Also, funds are no longer under TRT control but held by an arbiter account. At the same link you'll find a bank transfer receipt and we will provide a quarterly bank statement.

As of today, we have not received one single notification by the authorities

Thank you

[Coinfan]

Beside lying to the police about the motive of the block (my account wasn't "dormant") and lying about the nature of the block (it was a covert block of my withdrawals, that let me keep trading and deposing unaware of it, and not a full block as he told), as is confirmed by all the evidence I posted (check https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4975753.msg55687075#msg55687075 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4975753.msg51615058#msg51615058) the Rock CFO also hided that he changed their FAQ that said "Verification is not mandatory” in order to try to justify after the fact his actions. He also hided that I never accepted this change.

Check here all the evidence about this change on their FAQ on May 2019:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4975753.msg51152105#msg51152105

Actually, they didn't change their TOS (just the FAQ) and the new FAQ is completely incompatible with their TOS. It's just a fake change to try to clean his actions.

And he was notified of a complain on the European arbitrage system and said here that he wouldn't comply with the decision if he lost: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4975753.msg50017001#msg50017001

And I already posted evidence about another complain and there is one pending. But let's wait for the next one: the big one, with the full evidence he gave everyone. No problem.

[Coinfan]

This thread just received another token of very welcomed support.

The Rock CFO wrote that he was never contacted in relation to the complains about this case.

The authorities didn't also contacted any of the email addresses they received in his lying complain. And several months have passed...

It would help for legal and practical reasons to receive a contact from the authorities. I guess Italian justice is not famous for it's prompt nature.

He is responsible for clear crimes. Italian justice will act. He gave all the evidence I needed. He is delusional, if he thinks it isn't being used and that he will evade his responsibly.

[eliale]

The authorities didn't also contacted any of the email addresses they received in his lying complain. And several months have passed...

It would help for legal and practical reasons to receive a contact from the authorities. I guess Italian justice is not famous for it's prompt nature.

Is the Italian justice the quickest in EU? No.

However, The Court of Justice, as you'll see at https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AcIIsoWP5mcMCApKMMPtTokkXfS9eyIz acknowledged receipt of our procedure against Coinfan approximately 2 weeks after we went to the Police. Please see "Trascrizione 1"

This proves that, it is unrealistic to say that, after 3 years (!!!!) the OP is still waiting for a reply.

[JollyGood]

You continue to drag the name of your exchange through the mud. Why do you feel the urge to continuously post here in the thread created by the OP?

You made your point, you claim you are innocent of any and all accusations - YES we read it. I do not believe you

Allow the OP to post here in the thread they created in any manner they want and ignore them, just let the Court sort things out with ample time. You can open your own thread and post there as much as you want about your interpretation of what happened instead.

The authorities didn't also contacted any of the email addresses they received in his lying complain. And several months have passed...

It would help for legal and practical reasons to receive a contact from the authorities. I guess Italian justice is not famous for it's prompt nature.

Is the Italian justice the quickest in EU? No.

However, The Court of Justice, as you'll see at https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AcIIsoWP5mcMCApKMMPtTokkXfS9eyIz acknowledged receipt of our procedure against Coinfan approximately 2 weeks after we went to the Police. Please see "Trascrizione 1"

This proves that, it is unrealistic to say that, after 3 years (!!!!) the OP is still waiting for a reply.

[Coinfan]

You continue to drag the name of your exchange through the mud. Why do you feel the urge to continuously post here in the thread created by the OP?

You made your point, you claim you are innocent of any and all accusations - YES we read it. I do not believe you

Allow the OP to post here in the thread they created in any manner they want and ignore them, just let the Court sort things out with ample time. You can open your own thread and post there as much as you want about your interpretation of what happened instead.

I could block this thread between my posts. But I do believe in freedom of speech and he has been able to post here without any limit. He even spammed the thread.

The legal process will take its time. But I'm in no hurry. In the mean time, as you said, it's him and his business that is being dragged through the mud. Showing everyone what kind of person he is.

As times passes, he is digging his hole deeper. In the start, he could evade legal responsibility easily. Now, he won't.

He is hoping he won't be punished for this, that he will be able to keep the money and that this will be contained, away from the eyes of his other partners and shareholders. But he knows that won't happen. I'll make shore of it.

[r34tr783tr78]

I dont see the point of waiting for any contact from the police. Im adjusting my scores with you scammer medri-eliale. A italian friend told me that embezzlement during financial functions doesnt depend on a complaint from the scammed person. Internet complaints dont receive the same attention but my friend will make a in person complaint against you for embezzlement and lies to the police and publishing police documents. You are completely busted.

[eliale]

Please note that, as of today, there is only one active criminal procedure against the OP as per the following link:

 https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AcIIsoWP5mcMCApKMMPtTokkXfS9eyIz?usp=sharing

Also, funds are no longer under TRT control but held by an arbiter account. At the same link you'll find a bank transfer receipt and we will provide a quarterly bank statement.

As of today, we have not received one single notification by the authorities

Thank you

[Coinfan]

I dont see the point of waiting for any contact from the police. Im adjusting my scores with you scammer medri-eliale. A italian friend told me that embezzlement during financial functions doesnt depend on a complaint from the scammed person. Internet complaints dont receive the same attention but my friend will make a in person complaint against you for embezzlement and lies to the police and publishing police documents. You are completely busted.

Great. Having more than one complain will assure a faster decision.

The Rock CFO Lies to the police V:

He also told the police that he had done everything he could to contact the owner of the account!

The Rock CFO never tried to contact the emails associated with the Rock accounts.

He received an email from an email account registered with the Rock Trading, signed with the names they have on file. He completely ignored the email for months. When he finally answered to confirm the identity, his only reaction was posting here in this forum almost all the private information he confirmed.

Lies, one after the other, including to Italian authorities.

[eliale]

Most likely,because  the provided documents are in Italian, seems like there is some confusion about the issue.

1) Our criminal procedure against the OP (Coinfan) is for defamation and any other possible issues which could arise from the investigation

2) We never denied your capacity to access the account which has been proven by you and confirmed by us.  However, because we do believe you are not the owner of it, we need to verify it. It would be very easy to do it on your side.

3) Also, being capable to prove the ownership of the account, would also allow us to comply with AML rules

4) Last but not least, we no longer have customer funds under our control but, they are safely held in an escrow account in the name of the Arbiter which, as soon as point 2 and 3 are satisfied, or with a Court Order, will promptly release funds.

[Trading]

Most likely,because  the provided documents are in Italian, seems like there is some confusion about the issue.

1) Our criminal procedure against the OP (Coinfan) is for defamation and any other possible issues which could arise from the investigation

2) We never denied your capacity to access the account which has been proven by you and confirmed by us.  However, because we do believe you are not the owner of it, we need to verify it. It would be very easy to do it on your side.

3) Also, being capable to prove the ownership of the account, would also allow us to comply with AML rules

4) Last but not least, we no longer have customer funds under our control but, they are safely held in an escrow account in the name of the Arbiter which, as soon as point 2 and 3 are satisfied, or with a Court Order, will promptly release funds.

Let's forget for a minute the evidence posted demonstrating that you lied to the police. Let's ignore your arbiter, as is patent that you retain access to that money. Your post confirms it.

The OP is no longer a Rock Trading customer, thus AML rules don't apply and you don't have any right to ask for identity verification. The FAQ you removed say that you never had.

The OP posted plenty of evidence that he is the owner of the money and this conflict already has several years. You are the only one denying it.
Is there other evidence you could possible invent to release his money?

[eliale]

Most likely,because  the provided documents are in Italian, seems like there is some confusion about the issue.

1) Our criminal procedure against the OP (Coinfan) is for defamation and any other possible issues which could arise from the investigation

2) We never denied your capacity to access the account which has been proven by you and confirmed by us.  However, because we do believe you are not the owner of it, we need to verify it. It would be very easy to do it on your side.

3) Also, being capable to prove the ownership of the account, would also allow us to comply with AML rules

4) Last but not least, we no longer have customer funds under our control but, they are safely held in an escrow account in the name of the Arbiter which, as soon as point 2 and 3 are satisfied, or with a Court Order, will promptly release funds.

Let's forget for a minute the evidence posted demonstrating that you lied to the police. Let's ignore your arbiter, as is patent that you retain access to that money. Your post confirms it.

The OP is no longer a Rock Trading customer, thus AML rules don't apply and you don't have any right to ask for identity verification. The FAQ you removed say that you never had.

The OP posted plenty of evidence that he is the owner of the money and this conflict already has several years. You are the only one denying it.
Is there other evidence you could possible invent to release his money?

What if the OP is not the account owner?  

It would be very easy to prove it but he can't.... (PS the account owner is a woman)

[Coinfan]

Let's forget for a minute the evidence posted demonstrating that you lied to the police. Let's ignore your arbiter, as is patent that you retain access to that money. Your post confirms it.

The OP is no longer a Rock Trading customer, thus AML rules don't apply and you don't have any right to ask for identity verification. The FAQ you removed say that you never had.

The OP posted plenty of evidence that he is the owner of the money and this conflict already has several years. You are the only one denying it.
Is there other evidence you could possible invent to release his money?

Thanks for your post.

He concluded about my gender based on translations made by the site I use to convert my posts into Italian!

All the several complains made against the Rock Trading were made with the names they have on file, since the complain to the European arbitrage system, when not even him knew that he would use the names on file as a pretext.

The Rock CFO never cared for any evidence. He keeps raising absurd suspicions about my property just as a pretext. But things are in motion. He will answer for what he done and is doing.

[eliale]

. ..He will answer for what he done and is doing.

This issue was opened by the OP on: August 29, 2018, 03:47:50 PM

We / I have been waiting to answer to any official request since then.....

Keep waiting...

[Super Bitard]

Very old exchange. If this is a scam, how does it still exist?

[eliale]

Very old exchange. If this is a scam, how does it still exist?

Thank you! Since June 1st 2011. The oldest still in existance  

[JollyGood]

Yes Rock Trading is a very old exchange that was started years ago, they claim to trade around just $1 million every 24 hours but Binance which started just a few years ago trades around $15 billion every 24 hours they are not a very useful one at that.

You asked how they still exit? Well they exist because they seem to have taken revenge on the OP because of this thread by withholding their funds and they needed to raise 1m Euro from investors to exist.

Very old exchange. If this is a scam, how does it still exist?

[Coinfan]

Yes Rock Trading is a very old exchange that was started years ago, they claim to trade around just $1 million every 24 hours but Binance which started just a few years ago trades around $15 billion every 24 hours they are not a very useful one at that.

You asked how they still exit? Well they exist because they seem to have taken revenge on the OP because of this thread by withholding their funds and they needed to raise 1m Euro from investors to exist.

Their shareholders were completely ripped off. An exchange trading in bitcoin since 2011 that couldn't make 1 million, even with the gigantic increase in price! Even many traders made that!

And the shareholders still don't know what is going to happen to their investment. But they will.

And their partners will know too. He picked fights with more than a forum member. A list of the Rock Trading partners emails was compiled in order to inform them.

Everyone will know about the things he is capable of doing, including the Italian authorities. I posted evidence of the complains. There will more.

He is delusional if he thinks that the evidence he posted about his crimes won't be used. He is gambling not just his business, but his freedom.

[Coinfan]

I already wrote about the change they done in their FAQ in 2019, long after their block on my account, to try to hide their illegal actions, but that they didn't change their TOS and are breaching it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4975753.msg51152105#msg51152105

But they have also different and contradictory versions of their FAQ. Just compare:

https://support.therocktrading.com/kb/faq.php?id=64
"If your account is unverified you will not be able to trade, deposit or withdraw cryptocurrencies and/or euro." (created after the fact, on may 2019)

https://blog.therocktrading.com/how-can-i-withdraw-cryptocurrencies-limits/
"New users start without the functionality that enables autonomous withdrawals to protect funds. In order to unlock this functionality, you will need to verify your account".
In this FAQ they don't say that customers can't withdraw without verification. They only say that they won't be able to do autonomous withdrawals.

They add "In which cases I cannot withdraw? If your account is not verified. [OR] If you are trying to withdraw what you have exclusively deposited without having done any trading."

But this can't apply to manual withdrawals or customers wouldn't be allowed to withdraw their money unless they had traded. Which would be clearly illegal.

These are the FAQ open to their customers. The first quoted one serves just to apply to my case and to lie to anyone they want to. To try to mislead people to think the Rock Trading has "the right" to block my money.

Lies and schemes.