[ANN][ICO] The Snowden-Coin.com

[Applextramile]

it`s so boring...  I know you guys from spamming the german wallstreet board... so , if its your opinion that CEOs are so bad , how could they show up with such a great technology like ultraupload.io ... I did`t hear a bad word about the product itself?  compare it with other zero knowledge networks like storj.io and let me know, if UU is great or not ..

Simple question:

Why is your communication so poor, in every aspect?

You had years and you obviously knew about all the problems and still you never managed to participate in the mentioned forum (www.wallstreet-online.de) or did address the most pressing concerns with a few statements. I mean you treat your existing shareholders like shit. Puts you in a bad light. Right now you pretend to care, but when you got the money this is likely to change. I mean in three years there was not a single reaction by you in in the forums where your shareholders were asking themselves what's going on - and here you respond within 24 hours? Wow. Just wow.

Again about communication: A federal institution states that you faked numbers in your reports. As did independent accountants before. And all you do is publishing this statement, without any explanation, commentary or apology? (Talking about this: https://www.pressetext.com/news/1528111740471 - It's basically saying that TCU added 412.000 Euros unrightfully to their balance sheets and by doing so they faked their financial health. Quite a serious accusation for a company that's traded at the stock market and now tries again to acquire money from investors.) Lies and fakes everywhere. It's getting back to you eventually.

Also things were announced and never released. Any company with dignity would have officially cancelled things at some point while giving a reasonable explanation about the circumstances. Especially when knowing that share holders are still discussing it. Not so much TCU. There was just silence. You guys are utterly bad at communication and even worse at admitting mistakes or failures. When looking at it the other way around it makes sense: since these are the only things happening at TCU all the time there's obviously not much to publish then. Well.

Interesting point is that asking valid questions plus having arguments about pressing concerns is "spamming" now? Tells me a lot about you and how thin-skinned you react to critics. Especially while referring to the own product as "great technology". As great as the "TeleFairy" perhaps - "the worldwide unique TV-Ad-Blocker and 8 other brilliant devices in one"? Wasn't so brilliant at all, was it? If anyone is interested how a dead product looks like: http://www.telefairy.com/ - made by TCU. Sales were inexistent, mostly because this product is just bad. Also there were three generations of this thing. They all failed miserably and they obviously didn't get better because sales even got worse with each iteration.

Is there more to say about the competence of this company?

Are you really willing to trust them with your money or your data? Look at their history, look at their products and there may be doubt.

[ICO4UU]

Simple question:

Why is your communication so poor, in every aspect?

Simple Answer. The way YOU talk to me, is the way I talk to you. I don`t like to talk with anonymous accounts, haters or people not intrested in our work, only intrested to disrespect others or spread lies to grab some shares cheaper. All real investors can call us at any time (and use that option daily) we have a great nearly 24/7 support for real investors or customers. Have you ever called us or written with a non anonymous account? linkedin, xing, facebook, wherever? No, you did not!. So your kind of communication is poor..not mine.  

You had years and you obviously knew about all the problems and still you never managed to participate in the mentioned forum (www.wallstreet-online.de) or did address the most pressing concerns with a few statements. I mean you treat your existing shareholders like shit.

by the way. Its not allowed to answer questions in wallstreet online for an CEO. I tried so years ago and was blocked.

Puts you in a bad light. Right now you pretend to care, but when you got the money this is likely to change. I mean in three years there was not a single reaction by you in in the forums where your shareholders were asking themselves what's going on - and here you respond within 24 hours? Wow. Just wow.

See above. I was blocked by wallstreet online. Years ago, we had an investor forum to answer questions, but it was not used only spammed, so we closed it. We have a facebook-Site, did you ever ask a question here? We have email. when did you send a question, which was unanswered? never! Same for phone. Why do we have best relationships to all shareholders, except you "Apfelbonusmeile/AppleExtraMile"?

A federal government states that you faked numbers in your reports.

Untrue. Years ago, our lawyer AND the auditor forced (!) us to post the damage claim into the balance. Otherwise we would hide an important claim value. Now another supervisory auditor said the opposite, so we had to correct that ! Its far beyond "Fake".
BTW: 4 different independent auditors over 12 years had a different legal opinion than this single supervisor auditor.

And all you do is publishing this statement, without any explanation, commentary or apology? (Talking about this: https://www.pressetext.com/news/1528111740471 - It's basically saying that TCU added 412.000 Euros unrightfully to their balance sheets and by doing so they faked their financial health. Quite a serious accusation for a company that's traded at the stock market and now tries again to acquire money from investors.)

Its forbidden by law to add our legal opinion. The text message for that adhoc message was written by Bafin. Not only the meaning, we had to publish it WORD by WORD exactly like Bafin told us. We had a complete other different legal opinion. Like the 5 auditors of us as well. Its forbidden by Bafin to add our legal opinion. We were forced to tell it exactly as Bafin gave us the message ! We had to say, that this IS OUR legal opinion, which it was never. I can send you the emails and letters between us and Bafin. Its quite simple: Our damage claim against RTL Broadcaster was about a million €. So bringing in 400K into the balance is fair treatment against shareholders. And that was not even our idea! The 2015 auditor told us, we have to! Otherwise we would hide an important fact (a benefit) and shareholders can claim they wouldn`t have sold a share knowing about that claim. As far as I remember that claim also meant to pay profit taxes as well in that given year ( I am not sure, I guess it was 2005, when we have succeded against RTL at the BGH and started to prepare the damage claim battle)
 

Also things were announced and never released.

Wrong! if we announce something, we also release...

Any company with dignity would have officially cancelled things at some point while giving a reasonable explanation about the circumstances.

We cancelled a lot in our long history. The average of vc-market or innovations of big companies (new products) has a failure rate 9/10. Our failure rate in new products is approximatly 3/10. Most products failed due to a lack of marketing budget due to failed capital increases. No new capital (support by shareholders)->no marketing budget-> even a top product can fail. As you know, our capital was after IPO the same as before, due to "dotcom" crash 2000. Other companys with "professional" CEOs simply would close such a company (in 2000 all our competitors did so, metabox etc.) . We did not. We stick to our company.

Especially when knowing that share holders are still discussing it. Not so much TCU. There was just silence.

see above. I explained why we do not use Wallstreet online for chats. Most of the chats are asking for unpublished future plans. To talk about before an adhoc message is also forbidden by law. And in former times we did a lot of adhoc messages to keep shareholders up2date. This ended as Bafin did also forbid that and named it "abuse of adhoc message system". Yes you are right. Since then our adhocs are not as often than before.

You guys are utterly bad at communication and even worse at admitting mistakes or failures.

See above. With respectful non anonymous shareholders we have very good relationship. And we admit failures very often. It was a failure to trust the legal system in germany, to trust in independent judges etc. we learned our lessions, as well as Berry Diller did with aero.tv in the states :-))) when it comes to disruptive game changing media technology, don`t trust the government... it depends on that industry..the broadcasters are very powerful..

Interesting point is that asking valid questions plus having arguments about pressing concerns is "spamming" now?

repeating the same wrong facts over and over is spamming. First question is always ok. Your "questions" are not new. They are all answered hundred times in wallstreet forum by real investors. If you still think we are gready ,its your personal opinion and ok. Repeating it over and over is spamming. In this forum you name yourself an Investor, but in Wallstreet online everybody can read that you don`t have a single share.
BTW: Why are you such a hater? dissapointed shareholder? when did you invest? 2000?

Tells me a lot about you and how thin-skinned you react to critics.

I answered all your questions. Yes, if you name me gready, its personal. I could easily show you, that salary is probaly the lowest of all CEOs at regular market. I know, you know the facts.

Especially while referring to the own product as "great technology".

Cause it is. I give you an example: as we developed live peer to peer tv transmission, this great innovation was honoured in an  "the new york times" article as "great product". German newspaper (Bertelsman group?) named it "impossible". We did it. And more than that. We were a year ago one of 2 companies worldwide supportingVC9 in HTML5 . The other one was backed up by US Venture capital with lots of mio. of dollars. Is it my fault, that germany has much harder access to capital? That high tech is better honoured in US? or Compare the german ICO market with the US ICO market. Overregulated!!

As great as the "TeleFairy" perhaps - "the worldwide unique TV-Ad-Blocker and 8 other brilliant devices in one"?

As we introduced the Telefairy v1 2000 this was the right product for the right time.We kept our promise to bring that product to market. But the market has changed, satellite receivers are not as common as 15 years ago. Our product  is now more suitable for an app. As soon as Samsung or other gatekeepers allow our app in their market, things can change...TV blocker are not a technical product anymore, its a strategic decision. (see apples announcement of the "Ad free" TV, did it ever came to market? :-)  TV landscape has changed in the meantime and over the years we were illegally stopped.

Wasn't so brilliant at all, was it? If anyone is interested how a dead product looks like: http://www.telefairy.com/ - made by TCU.

Again wrong. Its working quite well. Me and my kids do not consume advertising. I use the box on all of my TVs :-) But your are right, sales are so low (we went on market without a marketing budget), we don`t develop on it anymore (with small exemptions) since 2017, when we started UltraUpload.io development.  

Look at their history, look at their products and there may be doubt.

With UltraUpload-ICO means we finally have a proper marketing budget. We learned our lessions. Thats why we trust in clever offshore investors and not in slow german market.. ask yourself why "our Facebook" failed ("Wer kennt wen", by the way coded by a former TC developer)  and not the US-facebook.

[Applextramile]

Numbers are for the first half of 2018. They are official and can be found here: http://www.telecontrol.de/downloads/hj12018.pdf

1. Again you have "forgotten" the 100% and 50% salary waiver of the CEOs in the past over years.
2. some of the developers are paid directly from the customer
3. Some of the salarys are in other accounts (external costs) / freelancers / sending bills -> costs

1. This was happening ten or even more years ago. Who cares? The actual greed is real, the numbers are bad, right here and right now. The past doesn't help since there is no positive effect coming from there.

2. So they aren't your developers and obviously can't be count into the project of UltraUpload or the "Snowden-Coin". Did you still do that? Lies again? Since the customer is on the Seychelles this must be a nightmare to pay people in Germany while evading law violations. Taxes, social insurance contribution and stuff in general. Strange construct. Why aren't you paid for the project accordingly to finance all assets as needed? Must be quite a bad deal. And since it's your only customer and your very existence depends on this project it seems apparent that someone has leverage on you. This makes you weak.

3. Why can't you create a report where anyone interested is able figure out where money comes from and where exactly it goes to? And what additional things are happening at your place, even if the financing is done by someone else? Or did you just made that up to not look too bad?  I mean: Dude, your reputation for transparency is as bad as it gets... 

Secondly: You won't get a good programmer for that salary.

Here you are right and at least now, you should recognize, that your math is wrong. See above (2./3.) for the reason.

Thirdly: TCU is in desperate need of money.

as said before, we invested a lot in 2017/18 into UltraUpload.io and so even forego revenues ..is that desperate? You can read in the annual report, that our cash reserves are well filled and increasing... no problems here, at least much more cash reserves than most startups..We are public listed company so all we do is fully transparent, but even you got all data, you don`t read the numbers correctly..

This makes me think: Is the whole stock market getting it wrong since your value there basically knows only one direction: southwards. In all the time it always got back to the same low value, often for years. Obviously there has manipulation ("Apple may acquire TCU!") taken place in the past and even hype ("TeleFairy is the next big thing!"), based on false facts and of course lies again. But after these fallacies have worn off and after all in general you are still valued as a pennystock. There's no lasting growth and has never been. Not in almost 20 years of you desperately trying. And a lot of foul play.

The chart tells it all: https://abload.de/img/tcunterhaltungselektriuivi.png

Hard to argue that truth. Or are you going to tell me that the stock market doesn't work? I believe that, apart from some fluctuations, it's pretty good at rating companies. Your long time assessment is negative.

[Applextramile]

Simple question:

Why is your communication so poor, in every aspect?

Simple Answer. The way YOU talk to me, is the way I talk to you. I don`t like to talk with anonymous accounts, haters or people not intrested in our work, only intrested to disrespect others or spread lies to grab some shares cheaper. All real investors can call us at any time (and use that option daily) we have a great nearly 24/7 support for real investors or customers. Have you ever called us or written with a non anonymous account? linkedin, xing, facebook, wherever? No, you did not!. So your kind of communication is poor..not mine.  

We can cut it here.

Did I get this right? You are advertising an anonymous download platform in these forums (and anywhere else), backed by coins that allow anonymous payment and anonymous revenues. In your spare time you are bragging about the CIA/NSA ("Ami go home!") and how they are endangering everyone's privacy and are wrecking anonymity. Additionally your coin is named "Snowden-Coin", after a person that strongly relies on secure and anonymous systems.

And still you don't like to talk to anonymous persons? Just to deal with factual arguments?

I sense some conflict here.

What a lame attack and excuse, seriously. If there are open questions or contradictions: answer them, resolve them. Stand your ground, stand you man. You never did in the past because the critics were right, had valid objections. And this is getting back to you right now. While you are seeking new investors. Unfortunate, I know, but well: nobody forced you to be bad at business for so long. You treated existing shareholders like pieces of crap and since you never changed anything in your behaviour this can only be seen a warning to anyone thinking about giving you money. Because that's quite likely also the future of things with you guys.  

Perhaps as soon as I reveal my real identity I am sued by you? I mean you are bragging about your legal battles all the time and how you claim for compensation. Do you think that encourages people to seek contact with you using their real identities? I believe not!

And how does my anonymity change the validity of any point I made so far? I mean even you are posting anonymously here as well, I see no real name anywhere in your profile. Or did I miss something? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

[ICO4UU]

1. This was happening ten or even more years ago. Who cares?

we care.. if you loose 4 years your salary you support the compnay y private means..those are not endless and need to be filled up again..

The actual greed is real, the numbers are bad, right here and right now. The past doesn't help since there is no positive effect coming from there.

Our salary is not bundled with success, profit or revenue. Otherwise you would be the first calling me greedy, if revenues goes up 10 times and so my salary. I tell you a secret. Other contacts have the double of my salary as a base PLUS profit increase options! Again, that salary contract is unchanged since 18 years. Other CEO bundle their salary to Inflation Compensation.. :-)

2. So they aren't your developers and obviously can't be count into the project of UltraUpload or the "Snowden-Coin". Did you still do that? Lies again? Since the customer is on the Seychelles this must be a nightmare to pay people in Germany while evading law violations.

They are allOUR developers since years. Member of our team. Who said our developers are all located in germany?

Taxes, social insurance contribution and stuff in general. Strange construct.

? Strange?.. you may visit india and ask how many people work for apple :-)

This makes me think: Is the whole stock market getting it wrong since your value there basically knows only one direction: southwards.

just see the charts..it goes as often north as it went south. Again you ignore the fact that we have weeks of non trading. The "value" is estimated most of the time or traed with very low volume.

Obviously there has manipulation ("Apple may acquire TCU!") taken place

We never made such an adhoc message.

and of course lies again

.
We never lied. Please stop that.

And a lot of foul play.

There was also no foul play. If so, why don`t you sue us? I would be happy to see you in court. So stop spamming your lies here.

The chart tells it all: https://abload.de/img/tcunterhaltungselektriuivi.png

We have that chart on our homepage, no secret :-)

Hard to argue that truth. Or are you going to tell me that the stock market doesn't work?

Stock market? most of the time we have no traders, sometimes 2 traders make the price. One is selling 100 pieces, the other one is investing 100€. Market? :-)

Your long time assessment is negative.

If you take charts of the past to judge or predict the future, HAPPY INVESTING :-)) .. so lets talk in a year again, bye!

[ICO4UU]

We can cut it here.

yezz :-)

Did I get this right? You are advertising an anonymous download platform in these forums (and anywhere else), backed by coins that allow anonymous payment and anonymous revenues.

Yes

In your spare time you are bragging about the CIA/NSA ("Ami go home!") and how they are endangering everyone's privacy and are wrecking anonymity.

Yes.

Additionally your coin is named "Snowden-Coin", after a person that strongly relies on secure and anonymous systems.

yes

And still you don't like to talk to anonymous persons?

yes, you request special shareholder treatment. You complain about no proper "Investor" treatment. If you want to be treated as an investor, act like an investor. Otherwise you just another hater, scammer or spammer. Allowed to lie by anonymity.

I sense some conflict here. Tongue

of course you do, thats the problem..

What a lame attack and excuse, seriously. If there are open questions or contradictions: answer them, resolve them.Stand your ground, stand you man.

Didn`t I do exactly that the last 2 hours, please see above??    Even I have no time to do so, cause we are heading a conference tomorrow.

You never did in the past because the critics were right, had valid objections.

OMG men, you are really slow... I didn`t, cause I could`t answer in that channel, I was BLOCKED !!! So hard to understand?? I cannot answer an anonymous acount in a channel I cannot post on !!!!! its that simple !!!

And this is getting back to you right now. While you are seeking new investors. Unfortunate, I know, but well: nobody forced you to be bad at business for so long. You treated existing shareholders like pieces of crap and since you never changed anything in your behaviour this can only be seen a warning to anyone thinking about giving you money. Because that's quite likely also the future of things with you guys.

Again, there was NO other investor ever complaining. I named all the channels we are available. Except You!!! Why did you never use an not anonymous channel to contact us???

Perhaps as soon as I reveal my real identity I am sued by you?

If you don`t stop spreading lies, I could. Its not a personal thing. You destroy the work of my team and the values of other shareholders with lies. Man, honestly. In your opinion we are so lousy, so bad, so greedy..Do you really need lies? Just stay to the facts and bash 24/7, I have no problem with your single opinion. A lot of share buyers do a little bashing before buying.. thats quite normal.. ;-)

I mean you are bragging about your legal battles all the time and how you claim for compensation. Do you think that encourages people to seek contact with you using their real identities? I believe not!

OK, than ask your questions without connecting your identity with your former account name. If you want to contact me, do so.

And how does my anonymity change the validity of any point I made so far?

Again, as you see above, I answered your questions even you are anonymous. But don`t expect that I invest more time for such a "shareholder" if you thank that efforts with just repeating those lies again and again. If I explain something and you ignore my answer and spread lies again, than I am not motivated to answer your questions again, For what?

I see no real name anywhere in your profile. Or did I miss something?

Yes, you did. Just read the first posting, I signed with my real name, Guido Ciburski,CEO of TCUAG
Again, you may stay anonymous, you have the right to do so. But than don`t expect to be treated as "shareholder", expect explains beyond our 6 month reports and don`t complain that I treat "shareholders" badly.

GN8 and sleep well...

[ICO4UU]

starting tomorrow,  we are attending  https://blockchainworldsummit.co/ ,
we are back next friday.. thx..

[cherry laurel]

good luck on that meeting its maybe your chance to get success, i have overflown the recent posts, and there was lots of critics but i find it phenomenal that your little  company have survived 20 years in a hard competition technology sector.
so good luck and i will continue follow this thread.

[cr_y_pto]

I kind of like the idea of what you are doing.

However, checking your current financials was quite a surprise. Even though my German is very bad, your current earnings report seems to show that all your intangible assets amount to 2 (in words: two) Euros. Additionally, all you tangible assets only total approximately 14k Euros.

How does that match you stating the technology is all yours???

Thats more true, than the words before, but you again "forgot", why we made that software-creating-contract. Just to survive until we got damage claims from german broadcasters, which prevented illegally our market introduction of first tv ad blocker. And the risk to cancel that contract is lower, than you might think. We are running all their websites since 15 years, its our software and even basic technologies is ours. We licensed for example the unique Peer to peer realtime tv distribution software to that customer.

The software companies I know of either sell what they are doing or capitalize it in the balance sheet. You literally have close to zero intangibles.

Can you please explain?

Chris

[ICO4UU]

Hi Chris,
thanks for asking. No , in germany its totally forbidden to activate assets like software or technology, know how or any similar assets. We own technology 100% without any debts or dependencys. 2 Euro is also wrong. See bank acount level, our cashflow is healthy, so our reserves.
Best Regards Guido

[cr_y_pto]

Hi Chris,
thanks for asking. No , in germany its totally forbidden to activate assets like software or technology, know how or any similar assets. We own technology 100% without any debts or dependencys. 2 Euro is also wrong. See bank acount level, our cashflow is healthy, so our reserves.
Best Regards Guido

The latest earnings report from your company shows exactly this:

https://pasteboard.co/HDnVKMq.jpg

And now you what to tell me 2 euros is wrong? Please explain.

How do we know if what you say is right regarding ownership of technology?


I'm not sure about capitalizing intangibles according to German GAAP, but I will ask a German colleague after lunch. But it seems rather strange that this is forbidden. I will come back on this.

[ICO4UU]

The latest earnings report from your company shows exactly this:

https://pasteboard.co/HDnVKMq.jpg

And now you what to tell me 2 euros is wrong? Please explain.

Yes, what I said. Even cause its OUR technology we can not activate it in the balance.
If we would have bought or licensed that technology from another company, than it woul be possible

How do we know if what you say is right regarding ownership of technology?

How do you know, that the facebook code is owned by facebook?
We are public listed company. Any single word in our adhoc messages must be true or otherwise we go to jail.
So please read our public adhoc message: https://www.pressetext.com/news/20180827030
or the german version: https://www.finanznachrichten.de/nachrichten-2018-08/44631357-pta-adhoc-tcu-ag-snowden-coin-com-ico-fuer-ultraupload-io-beginnt-im-september-2018-tcuag-gibt-wertpapieraehnlichen-crypto-token-zur-blockchain-ent-015.htm

The UltraUpload.io Code is 100% owned by us, TCU AG Koblenz.

[Applextramile]

In the past you did put patents that were essentially worthless into you balance sheets. Just to inflate the numbers.

And now you are telling us that this is and was illegal?

Wrong! if we announce something, we also release...

Really? Lets do a little reality-check:

Wir haben daher eine App entwickelt, die direkt auf dem Fernseher läuft und keinerlei Hardware benötigt, also auch gratis abgegeben werden kann. Solche Apps müssen für jeden TV-Hersteller einzeln entwickelt werden, daher haben wir mit dem Marktführer begonnen, der ca. 40% des Marktes abdeckt.
Diese App wird Ihnen Herr Ciburski heute noch auf dem Fernseher dort vorstellen, damit Sie sich einen Eindruck davon machen können, wie einfach der Werbeblocker in der Benutzung ist.
Die App ist bereits marktreif, wir möchten aber noch die sehr attraktive "Personal-TV" Funktion von der Fernsehfee zum Start anbieten. Weitere Fernsehfee-Features werden wir dann per Update nachliefern. Es kann durchaus sein, daß wir noch in 2015 die App vorstellen.

Es besteht also die Chance, daß wir einen kostenlosen TV-Werbeblocker anbieten, den 40% der hochattraktiven Zielgruppe der Smart-TV User verwenden. Das wäre ein Alptraum für RTL und ein Traum für unseren Börsenkurs. Der Nettoumsatz, den jede App pro Jahr und Haushalt vernichtet liegt bei mindestens 110 Euro, eher beim Doppelten, da die Zielgruppe besonders umkämpft ist. Eine Riesenchance vor der TC nun steht und wir können den Marktstart kaum abwarten.

-> http://telecontrol.de/hv-2015.html

(In general you are a mastermind of entertaining hopes. Anyone can see just by digging a bit and finding out what happened after almost any announcement of you company...)

In short: at the End of 2015 you did announce an APP, the next bing thing. As part of your "TeleFairy"-Project. You said that the product would be ready for the market. Exactly your words. You may even release it in 2015. And you were eager to start it. Now it's 2018 and nobody has ever heard again from that thing. So we caught you lying.

In the German message board there was a big fuzz about that product, those who had still hope that you may get something right were constantly posting about it. This went on for months. No way you could have missed this, especially since you admitted here that you are monitoring that forum. Since it's the largest community in Germany to discuss the stock market you would be stupid not to.

Simple question: Since you knew about the discussions in that forum for so long and all the open questions as well: Why didn't you just release some Ad Hoc / newsletter / whatever_you_want_to_call_it that was addressing these issues? I mean communication is a way of maintaining a relationship. Especially after being a disappointment for so many shareholders so many times as you were and are. There are ways for sure. You went silent for months and even years. And don't tell me that you have those annual reports. They're just your damn duty and even that you don't get right.

Next question: You said you weren't allowed to take part on that discussion board. But why are other CEOs able and allowed to participate there?

Proof: https://abload.de/img/screenshot_20180911_1focec.png

This one seems to be quite active. But also his company seems to be doing well.

Conclusion: You never tried to communicate things. You never cared. Probably because you aren't looking very well in any scenario.

And all you have now are lame excuses. Seems to be proven.

 

[ICO4UU]

In the past you did put patents that were essentially worthless into you balance sheets. Just to inflate the numbers.

And now you are telling us that this is and was illegal?

OK, again just a lack of knowledge on your site. Easy to explain.
The patents rights were special. They were estimated to 17 Mio. € by two independent experts. We brought that into the company as a non cash contribution during foundation of the company. And cause I learned arguing with you is like a chessgame: your next move will be "this patent was worthless, how can you do that? :-)" So be sure, the value of that patent was also checked by tax authoritis in a 6 year legal battle we have won! The result of that battle was, that they did not get back claimed 600k, but vice versa we got that 600K from tax authority. Thats why that immaterail value was from the beginning in the balance.
If you have doubts that self developed software can never be activated in a balance, please ask any tax expert. There are some exceptions however, but as you know german tax law is complicated. The avaerage rule is "impossible" cause otherwise any software company would claim highly annual depreciations and reduce profit tax.

Wrong! if we announce something, we also release...
Really? Lets do a little reality-check:

You had doubts that we did not release the TV app? we did. The Samsung tv  blocking app is ready and working. Samsung Germany was excited, but Korean Headquarter stopped the public availability. Some big deal behind the scene was made with that app. No idea, what exactly happend. Maybe a deal between Samsung and broadcasters like "we don`t do that, so we expect this".. Other gatekeepers like Philips or LG said from the beginning of negotiations, "no we can`t do that", we need a good relationship with broadcasters for a lot of other projects. Samsung also saw legal risks, cause they have market leader position and such an app could endager the future of the dual system of german/intl. TV. In the BGH judgement you can read "as long as the existence of private broadcasting is not endagered". We will never know the true reasons however, fact is, we still have no OK or NO from samsung since 2 years. As Imentioned before,also Apple TV announced "Ad blocking" as the next big thing in TV industry and never released a model..Our app is currently only running on tizen and would not endager private broadcasters, but as said before, the true reasons for the reaction of samsung is unclear. Fact is, we realized the product.You can install that app with an USB stick manually in your TV, but this is quite complex.

(In general you are a mastermind of entertaining hopes. Anyone can see just by digging a bit and finding out what happened after almost any announcement of you company...)

As you might notice, no other company realized a tv ad blocking system. Its a difficult market. We had the chance , we were member of samsung developer application infrastructure, all we need is a strategic decision from samsung.

So we caught you lying.

See above. again you were wrong. We did not ly. Again every single word in our adhoc was true. Please ask first and avoid your wrong conclusions.

In the German message board there was a big fuzz about that product, those who had still hope that you may get something right were constantly posting about it. This went on for months. No way you could have missed this, especially since you admitted here that you are monitoring that forum. Since it's the largest community in Germany to discuss the stock market you would be stupid not to.

Again, that forum is of no interest for me, cause as CEO I amnot allowed to post there andI am blocked. You are constantly spreading lies and other teach you again and again were you are wrong, even better than I could. Its a waste of time to discuss with you, cause you have other motivatiuons than to be informed. If you want to talk with us, we have 4 support channels, facebook, email, phone, messanger...you don`t use any of them, cause you want to stay anonymous. With your false allegations you spread (against yous better knowing) and the crimes you did, its maybe a good decision.

Simple question: Since you knew about the discussions in that forum for so long and all the open questions as well: Why didn't you just release some Ad Hoc / newsletter / whatever_you_want_to_call_it that was addressing these issues? I mean communication is a way of maintaining a relationship. Especially after being a disappointment for so many shareholders so many times as you were and are. There are ways for sure. You went silent for months and even years. And don't tell me that you have those annual reports. They're just your damn duty and even that you don't get right.

See above..if you have questions, why not grab a phone. You can call as "Mister X", not saying you are Apfelbonusmeile. You can surpress your phone number. Dont play a role, of that poor uninformed shareholder. Again, your intentions are obvious. And as said before, Bafin (financial regulation) told us to reduce the number of adhocs and not to abuse the adhoc system as an advertsing tool.

Next question: You said you weren't allowed to take part on that discussion board. But why are other CEOs able and allowed to participate there?

Maybe they pay for it. Again, you can post your questions here: https://www.facebook.com/tcuag/ or by email or phone.
 

This one seems to be quite active. But also his company seems to be doing well.

You are right. His account is a special one.I guess he pays for posting.

Conclusion: You never tried to communicate things. You never cared.
Probably because you aren't looking very well in any scenario.
And all you have now are lame excuses. Seems to be proven.

I told you yesterday evening, that we are constantly in close contact to a lot of shareholders. That we answer any questions. This last sentence is the finaly proof, that - no matter what I say - you constantly repeat same lies. Again my questions. Please answer. Why are you such an hater? What is your motivation? When did you loose money due to TC? Please explain yourself.

[cherry laurel]

why this thread turned in a conversation with an ceo and an ex-shareholder. where is the developer team of this project. very curiously.

[cr_y_pto]

It seems like there's at least lots of controversy about your past performance. I may come back to that later, but let's move on to other important issues.

Generally speaking, I understand that your company put together and owns the ultraupload software. How well is this software received by the market? How many users do you currently have on your platform?

Moving the ultraupload service to the blockchain seems like an interesting idea. But do you have any experience with such a project? What are your companies' skills in the blockchain field? Do you have any references? How many employees are used to develop this?

Thanks, Chris

[Applextramile]

How I tried to measure success of "UltraUpload" so far: By using Google.

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&q="ultraupload"&oq="ultraupload"

Just checking how many results I get and what relevance they have.

"UltraUpload" was launched last year and has been online ever since.

Not much can be found. There's literally nothing going on. As an investor for a download platform that's almost online for a year you would expect something more compelling, wouldn't you?

As I said before: TCU masters the art of entertaining hopes and has never fulfilled them. Since their launch back in 2000. Just follow their history and cross-reference their promises with reality over the years. As a result of this I would check closely the plausibility of any answer you may get since the credibility of TCU is quite a bit flawed (just understating things here).

Wouldn't be surprised if they declare a customer base belonging to the single client (OTR) of TCU is as own or potential one. Even if they aren't really interested there because resonance was weak: http://www.otrforum.com/showthread.php?75107-Transfer-der-Aufnahmen-in-UltraUpload-io

Sometimes I get the impression that TCU is either a complete fraud or living in an alternative reality.

Just one example: While bragging about their "Persistent Legal Department" they mention: "Sued by major European Pay TV operator Premiere (now Sky) 2004, pending at European court".

Well, what did happen in short? The guy posting here created a platform for distributing TV streams ("CyberSky-TV"), mostly based on P2P. So far, so good. The issues start with the beginning, because if you are not the owner of content you can't distribute it to your likings. It's usually up to the owner to decide this. It's called "copyright" and it keeps business possible. Anything else ranges from pure socialism to communism or just China in their worst cloning days.

It gets even worse when you start distributing an encrypted signal of pay TV. That's what was done. Any sane mind will tell you that this is a bad idea and just illegal. Because if it wouldn't be they can close business instantly.

You may also see immediately the conflict here. TCU wants do to business on their own, wants your money and still they don't concede this to others. They just grab what they want, the property of others and try to turn it into revenue, even if they fail all the time. Things maybe would morally be different if this had been some underground piracy group with no interest in making money. But it wasn't.

Obviously TCU/Ciburski lost the legal battle and wasn't allowed to stream Premiere/Sky ever after. Strangely they still consider this as good advertising for their "Persistent Legal Department", even if the opposite is true. Strange view of things indeed. Proof: http://www.digitalfernsehen.de/Premiere-setzt-sich-vor-Gericht-gegen-Cybersky-TV-durch.news_716008.0.html This sentence is final and after all these years nobody is expecting something here. But TCU is still selling it as a win in opposition to the truth.

Speaking of wins and success: "Cybersky-TV" doesn't exist any more.

So you may discover part by part what you are dealing with here.

[Global-Coin]

i like the idea and the high technical part in the whitepaper.
What I do not like are the charges in the form of forum trolls brought by the stock market.
anyone who has run a listed company for 18 years, I trust more than 95% of all ico projects.
I have now tested the platform with a video file and it worked. The project could work because it is also a regulated security token with a dividend. I wish you success

[ICO4UU]

why this thread turned in a conversation with an ceo and an ex-shareholder. where is the developer team of this project. very curiously.

I am head of development (CTO), so don`t hesitate to ask any technical question..
Best Regards Guido

[ICO4UU]

Generally speaking, I understand that your company put together and owns the ultraupload software. How well is this software received by the market? How many users do you currently have on your platform?

As you can read in the Whitepaper , its an MVP, in stealth mode. It`s more than a protoytp, cause its fully functional and performance can be tested by potential customers.
UI and Integration into Apps (IOS, Android) is for later Development (frontend).
Current Priority is smooth Integration of new hoster, hostermanagement, security tests (privacy, hacking schemes) , so a lot of background progress last half year.
It was never promoted to endusers. But to some potential publishers. So they could test the inteaction with the system for future websites. For example, we added the new feature of hosting a complete website anonymously on the infrastructure. So the publisher website itself is hosted like a file and can link to other files (content). Very important feature ,not even mentioned in current feature list.

Moving the ultraupload service to the blockchain seems like an interesting idea. But do you have any experience with such a project? What are your companies' skills in the blockchain field? Do you have any references?

Only a few companies really have, when it comes to high performance/scalability.
Thats why 1/3 of the budget goes into external blockchain development.
We are P2P experts , but not BC experts. Thats why we use external know how here. They will decide if a standard solution like BigchainDB will be used or an adoption or if we need an own development. Currently a lot of projects are working on high performing DLTs (in fact we will not use a BC, the use of the word is for better understanding, in fact we wiull move DBs into an DLT). That is part of the development AFTER the ICO. Nevertheless 1/3 of ICO means is for market introduction of UU for enduser (Downloader, publisher). Even without BC one can generate same revenues like MegaUpload, with the downsize of beeing forced to delete a link from time to time (btw: each link can be replaced by another). After BC deletion is impossible. BC development  is only to remove vulnerability by government actions (whistleblower level) and not a important precondition to geneate revenues.

How many employees are used to develop this?

5