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September 03, 2018, 07:26:00 AM
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And there is no possibility that you have confused the deposit address from coinbase with a 'wallet' address from coinbase ?
Did you ever use an 'online wallet' (from coinbase) ?

Can you tell us which version of the coinbase app you are using on your mobile ?

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September 03, 2018, 12:47:46 PM
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Those addresses are the same when I copy them...they do not change
Have you upgraded the wallet since the first transaction?


I have not upgraded the wallet at all..I went through every account on coinbase I have and the 12ngg does not appear in anything. Only the 36ii address appears...

I also had a third transaction that same day...this transaction occurred 2 hours earlier

The address that shows in my Kraken account as where the money was sent is the following...
1AFqDhC98SnqtTYoRG68SLu2qNCnUdfeNh

Now this 1AF is also not associated with my coinbase account...the address below is what is associated with this deposit into coinbase...

0.06001968 BTC to
33ppd1SMCU63yQCKyhoX8ZVf1ZQX67VS8H (spent)

does this transaction look normal? This also went into my account no problem!


Could something be up on Kraken end?
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September 03, 2018, 01:27:39 PM
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And there is no possibility that you have confused the deposit address from coinbase with a 'wallet' address from coinbase ?
Did you ever use an 'online wallet' (from coinbase) ?

Can you tell us which version of the coinbase app you are using on your mobile ?

I only used the wallet addresses that were created inside the app...

I believe I stumbled upon the answer in my Kraken account...

You can save wallet addresses when you withdraw money...I found the 12ngg address. Luckily I named each withdrawal address when I processed them through Kraken...this address is linked with a bitcoin atm I have used to withdraw in the past. Essentially I selected this on accident...the atn company has the private key correct? They were not expecting the money to be sent to them, why it is still sitting on the chain

Would it be as simple contacting them and having it sent back to me? or how would this process work?

I have sent funds to this atm before from both Kraken and Coinbase only confusing part is how did the transaction #1 find its way into my coinbase account if this address is linked with a third party ATM.
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September 03, 2018, 02:08:40 PM
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I believe I stumbled upon the answer in my Kraken account...

You can save wallet addresses when you withdraw money...I found the 12ngg address. Luckily I named each withdrawal address when I processed them through Kraken...this address is linked with a bitcoin atm I have used to withdraw in the past. Essentially I selected this on accident...the atn company has the private key correct? They were not expecting the money to be sent to them, why it is still sitting on the chain

Would it be as simple contacting them and having it sent back to me? or how would this process work?

Yes, the ATM provider in this case has the private key to this address.

You might try to contact them, but if this address isn't actively a deposit address for your account, they probably won't do much for you.

It would be still worth contacting them.



I have sent funds to this atm before from both Kraken and Coinbase only confusing part is how did the transaction #1 find its way into my coinbase account if this address is linked with a third party ATM.

This seems really weird. There is no practical reason for the atm provider to forward your payment to your coinbase account..

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September 03, 2018, 03:12:28 PM
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I believe I stumbled upon the answer in my Kraken account...

You can save wallet addresses when you withdraw money...I found the 12ngg address. Luckily I named each withdrawal address when I processed them through Kraken...this address is linked with a bitcoin atm I have used to withdraw in the past. Essentially I selected this on accident...the atn company has the private key correct? They were not expecting the money to be sent to them, why it is still sitting on the chain

Would it be as simple contacting them and having it sent back to me? or how would this process work?

Yes, the ATM provider in this case has the private key to this address.

You might try to contact them, but if this address isn't actively a deposit address for your account, they probably won't do much for you.

It would be still worth contacting them.



I have sent funds to this atm before from both Kraken and Coinbase only confusing part is how did the transaction #1 find its way into my coinbase account if this address is linked with a third party ATM.

This seems really weird. There is no practical reason for the atm provider to forward your payment to your coinbase account..



Would you think they would release the private key to me? So are these funds sitting in that wallet address or still on the block chain?

If they want to help me are they capable of sending funds back? Or how would they help me in this case
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September 04, 2018, 06:48:06 AM
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Would you think they would release the private key to me?

I doubt so.
They'll probably take the free money and won't release any private keys to you.

But it still would be worth a try. They might be refunding it (for a fee).



So are these funds sitting in that wallet address or still on the block chain?

Bitcoins are ALWAYS 'on the blockchain'. They are NEVER 'inside' of a wallet or 'in' an address.
The blockchain is the public ledger. The BTC's are assigned to an address.

And in order to use these UTXO's you'll need to have the corresponding private key to create a (valid) signed transaction.

Anyone with access to a private key, has access to all UTXO's associated to the addresses derived by this private key.



If they want to help me are they capable of sending funds back? Or how would they help me in this case

Yes.
If they want to help you, they are simply going to send the funds back. But i woulnd't expect them to do that.

Did you already find out why the first transaction got forwarded to coinbase ? This still seems to be somehow inconsistent because it doesn't make sense.

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September 04, 2018, 11:26:34 AM
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I found the 12ngg address. Luckily I named each withdrawal address when I processed them through Kraken...this address is linked with a bitcoin atm I have used to withdraw in the past.
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I have sent funds to this atm before from both Kraken and Coinbase only confusing part is how did the transaction #1 find its way into my coinbase account if this address is linked with a third party ATM.
if you have used it to withdraw in the past, then it would show on the blockchain  
but there are only two incoming transactions on that address and both was made on Aug 9th
also if you used 2 addresses from ATM that forward to 2 different coinbase addresses,
then you should be consciously linking the addresses, do you remember doing them?
coinbase addresses 33ppd... 36ii5... 3BnLn... was created in the same day with those transactions
they were done on August 9th, were you also using the ATM that day?

I also had a third transaction that same day...this transaction occurred 2 hours earlier
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does this transaction look normal? This also went into my account no problem!
so you have 3 withdrawals to 1xxx addresses which get forwarded to your 3xxx coinbase addresses
one thing for sure it worked only for the first tx on each address and ignore the second
are you sure those addresses related to the ATM, I think they are something else
btw what is the purpose of that ATM? it accepts btc and send out btc? (less 10k sats txfee)

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September 04, 2018, 02:35:12 PM
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Would you think they would release the private key to me?
Probably not in that case, but I don't think that they would just keep your money either.
They are in the business to grow their operation, I don't think they want the liability of keeping your money if you can show that it is a mistake was honestly made.
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September 04, 2018, 02:55:14 PM
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I found the 12ngg address. Luckily I named each withdrawal address when I processed them through Kraken...this address is linked with a bitcoin atm I have used to withdraw in the past.
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I have sent funds to this atm before from both Kraken and Coinbase only confusing part is how did the transaction #1 find its way into my coinbase account if this address is linked with a third party ATM.
if you have used it to withdraw in the past, then it would show on the blockchain  
but there are only two incoming transactions on that address and both was made on Aug 9th
also if you used 2 addresses from ATM that forward to 2 different coinbase addresses,
then you should be consciously linking the addresses, do you remember doing them?
coinbase addresses 33ppd... 36ii5... 3BnLn... was created in the same day with those transactions
they were done on August 9th, were you also using the ATM that day?

I also had a third transaction that same day...this transaction occurred 2 hours earlier
~
does this transaction look normal? This also went into my account no problem!
so you have 3 withdrawals to 1xxx addresses which get forwarded to your 3xxx coinbase addresses
one thing for sure it worked only for the first tx on each address and ignore the second
are you sure those addresses related to the ATM, I think they are something else
btw what is the purpose of that ATM? it accepts btc and send out btc? (less 10k sats txfee)

Lot going on here...the 12ngg does belong to the bitcoin atm. I had sent money to it before as a cash withdrawal. I have no idea how transaction #1 for $600 roughly was forwarded to my coinbase account...although I have used coinbase to withdraw to this coinbase atm as well. Transaction #2 is for sure stuck on the chain and I talked with the bitcoin atm, the 12ngg does belong to them and they are working on a solution today to get me my money. I assume as I sent to this address on accident that they were not looking for funds so they did not do anything with them
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September 04, 2018, 06:39:26 PM
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Lot going on here...the 12ngg does belong to the bitcoin atm. I had sent money to it before as a cash withdrawal. I have no idea how transaction #1 for $600 roughly was forwarded to my coinbase account...although I have used coinbase to withdraw to this coinbase atm as well. Transaction #2 is for sure stuck on the chain and I talked with the bitcoin atm, the 12ngg does belong to them and they are working on a solution today to get me my money. I assume as I sent to this address on accident that they were not looking for funds so they did not do anything with them
There's so many weird things going on here, but it would be crazy luck if you get it back!

The main question I have is: how did the ATM have your Coinbase address? Even if you did withdraw from Coinbase, that doesn't mean the funds came from your own address (because Coinbase is an exchange, not a wallet).

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September 04, 2018, 08:02:30 PM
Last edit: September 05, 2018, 04:07:03 AM by Oldnewbie
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(because Coinbase is an exchange, not a wallet).
I think Coinbase does have a wallet.

Edit-- misunderstood Coinbase wallet, just an app they hold the keys.
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September 04, 2018, 08:32:21 PM
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I think Coinbase does have a wallet.
If you don't hold the private keys, it's not a real wallet.

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September 05, 2018, 09:58:14 AM
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The main question I have is: how did the ATM have your Coinbase address?

That one bothers me too.

I don't see a logical explanation (1) how the ATM could aquire YOUR deposit address from coinbase and
(2) why would the ATM forward a payment to another address not in their control. Especially since ATM's either receive funds and withdraw cash or vice versa.

Something smells fishy here. This doesn't make sense  Huh

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