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February 04, 2019, 10:59:02 AM

Regarding Hardforks
Hardcore Bitcoiners will never touch Lightning, segwit it has nothing to do with Bitcoin.

That's a lie.

So you are not considering Andreas Antonopoulos as a hardcore bitcoiner? Because he one of the most hardcore bitcoiner I know and He definitely touches LN.

More to that, segwit is enabled by consensus from both miners and the users. And consensus is what makes bitcoin "bitcoin".

Hey SV shill, where is your shitcoin's (craig) hashrate?

Satoshi made Bitcoin.
Hardforcing a  hardfork is not a consensus.

Where is your hashrate?
Where will BTC hashrate be after next 2 hardforks?


Where is yours now?
I dont have one.
BSV is currently 40 times less than BTC. That ratio certainly will change after next two programmed BTC hardforks



Might happen. Or not. This is what you are hoping. In reality you don't know.

In reality BSV is just another shitcoin with no hashrate backing it up. 40 times. 40 times shittier.

And when will those 2 hardforks will take place? 2 years? 20 years? When will BSV become Bitcoin? 50 years? Will you be here when BSV has less than BTC's hashrate in 100 years?

No. You won't. Because you are a fucking pathetic liar.
Noone knows the future.
BSV is Bitcoin without segwit or lightning the way Satoshi made it.
When the backward compatibly hardfork is in place which one will be your "Bitcoin" the segwit (lightning) or the Legacy fork?
Can you point to a lie, i have legit opinions.




BSV is bitcoin without segwit, lightning, users, hashrate, trade volume, developers. BSV basically lacks everything what makes bitcoin "bitcoin". (Not much different than Bitconnect. BCC don't have these too.) But all the crap it has what makes a shitcoin "shitcoin". Craig Wright makes its way right at the top of the list.

Since you are following a pathological liar like Craig, I am not surprised you are not any different.







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Craig Wright is a liar, unstable person and close to be called a psychopath. He is a con-artist and a hater. There is no reasoning in abiding by whatever nonsense he says unless you are either a payed shill or a scammer like him. He isn't intelligent either. Closer to average with most probable bellow average IQ. Cunning and deceptive. These traits don't qualify him as the genius you want him to be. In all seriousness stop following this mofo scammer.
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February 04, 2019, 12:10:53 PM

Craig Wright is a liar, unstable person and close to be called a psychopath. He is a con-artist and a hater. There is no reasoning in abiding by whatever nonsense he says unless you are either a payed shill or a scammer like him. He isn't intelligent either. Closer to average with most probable bellow average IQ. Cunning and deceptive. These traits don't qualify him as the genius you want him to be. In all seriousness stop following this mofo scammer.
No one cares about Craig Wright, miners control PoW chains and blockchains have no CEO, databases like ripples xrp have archaic, hierarchical structure.
A fair few devs moved form BCH to BSV in recent times.

Miners is also the reason BCH is not a long term solution.

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February 04, 2019, 12:23:44 PM

Craig Wright is a liar, unstable person and close to be called a psychopath. He is a con-artist and a hater. There is no reasoning in abiding by whatever nonsense he says unless you are either a payed shill or a scammer like him. He isn't intelligent either. Closer to average with most probable bellow average IQ. Cunning and deceptive. These traits don't qualify him as the genius you want him to be. In all seriousness stop following this mofo scammer.
No one cares about Craig Wright, miners control PoW chains and blockchains have no CEO, databases like ripples xrp have archaic, hierarchical structure.
A fair few devs moved form BCH to BSV in recent times.

Miners is also the reason BCH is not a long term solution.


But miners mine Bitcoin. Not Bcash (not BAB neither BSV). That means your coin isn't bitcoin but some shitcoin no different than other 2000 coins.

Here is your Shitcoin Cash Craig edition's hashrate:



It is not even visible on the charts. LoL




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February 04, 2019, 12:26:30 PM

Recently, nChain announced that it will be forking to a new Bitcoin Cash node implementation known as Bitcoin SV (SV stands for Satoshi's Vision). This has been supported by Craig Wright (which claims to be the real Nakamoto) as he believes that it's the safest path to scaling yet. However, Bitcoin Cash devs (Bitcoin ABC) are against this new implementation of BCH, hence a split might occur in November leading to both coins with the same history of transactions (Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin SV).

Bitcoin SV aims to scale indefinitely by allowing miners to choose their own block size, among several other improvements. Now it's believed that this will be the "real Bitcoin" just like what has been said about Bitcoin Cash before.

What do you think about this controversy? Will Bitcoin Cash splinter into two distinct factions? Or will it remain the same? It looks like there would occur a split of the main BCH chain, causing Bitcoin SV to emerge. However, only one shall survive in the market (if not both or none of them). Looking forward for your thoughts Smiley
I think it will not be divided to develop separately. This is their strategy and they are making more investors pay more attention to their new products and altcoin to attract more investors.
You can see that the value of BCH has decreased to develop Bitcoin SV. They used money to pump the value of Bitcoin SV and the process was quite successful.
In short, Bitcoin SV and BCH are both excellent altcoins and it will likely take the 3rd place of ETH in the future.

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February 04, 2019, 12:32:21 PM

The coins lost value because of the controversy between the two coins. In particular, bitcoin sv owners were threatening twitter.

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When Lightning network comes for serious they both will be useless. Perhaps they will be useful only for speculators, but not for everyday payments. So even if there will be a growth it will be artificial, not the natural one like with BTC.

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Craig Wright is a liar, unstable person and close to be called a psychopath. He is a con-artist and a hater. There is no reasoning in abiding by whatever nonsense he says unless you are either a payed shill or a scammer like him. He isn't intelligent either. Closer to average with most probable bellow average IQ. Cunning and deceptive. These traits don't qualify him as the genius you want him to be. In all seriousness stop following this mofo scammer.
No one cares about Craig Wright, miners control PoW chains and blockchains have no CEO, databases like ripples xrp have archaic, hierarchical structure.
A fair few devs moved form BCH to BSV in recent times.

Miners is also the reason BCH is not a long term solution.


But miners mine Bitcoin. Not Bcash (not BAB neither BSV). That means your coin isn't bitcoin but some shitcoin no different than other 2000 coins.

Here is your Shitcoin Cash Craig edition's hashrate:



It is not even visible on the charts. LoL
What constitutes Bitcoin is defined by the creators whitepaper here: https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

Lets see BTC hashrate after next two hardforks, it will nosedive.
BTW you still have not answered:
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When the BTC backward compatibly hardfork has happened which one will be your "Bitcoin" the segwit (lightning) or the Legacy fork?
What to you personally define as "Bitcoin" then?

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I dont think that Im going to hurt anyone if I say that both of these projects really do not make any sense. Now the most important thing is for people to understand that cryptocurrencies are currencies and they can be used in the future as a means of payment.
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When Lightning network comes for serious they both will be useless. Perhaps they will be useful only for speculators, but not for everyday payments. So even if there will be a growth it will be artificial, not the natural one like with BTC.

Currency has no value. If you think xrp has value i cant really help you.
The fast majority of Gold is dug up for the whole purpose to rebury it in some fault for years and years. In Bitcoin terms its called Hodl
 Lightning is opposite of Hodl. For hodl blocksize, fee is irrelevant.
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And yet I'm more prone to bitcoin cash. I think there are more serious intentions than at SV. The latter is somehow not credible.

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And yet I'm more prone to bitcoin cash. I think there are more serious intentions than at SV. The latter is somehow not credible.
A fair few devs moved form BHC to BSV in recent times.
In the next weeks it will reveal which direction Bitcoin Cash is moving. At this stage to many uncertainties. Does not look good, but lets see.
Heck i am not even sure what is the official ticker symbol is.
Is it the left leaning orange coin or orange note or the green note
If someone know the official ticker feel free to share.

With SV its simple, straight Golden BTC and stick to the creators protocol. That Craig dude is best ignored.
BTC with its hardfork to segwit is like stitching a 3 arm on because the creator made you wrong with only two arms.

A place of storing your assets long-term like gold gives it value. Currency is worthless it just moves from place to place.

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It seems to me that after this fork, the interest in them on the part of most investors will disappear completely!
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I think bitcoin cash will last, because it still follows the main vision of Bitcoin. because as far as I know, a coin that breaks from the main coin and does the hardfork itself but has started different directions with the main coin, it will sink further in the market. and in this case, bitcoin sv has a different path.

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Recently, nChain announced that it will be forking to a new Bitcoin Cash node implementation known as Bitcoin SV (SV stands for Satoshi's Vision). This has been supported by Craig Wright (which claims to be the real Nakamoto) as he believes that it's the safest path to scaling yet. However, Bitcoin Cash devs (Bitcoin ABC) are against this new implementation of BCH, hence a split might occur in November leading to both coins with the same history of transactions (Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin SV).

Bitcoin SV aims to scale indefinitely by allowing miners to choose their own block size, among several other improvements. Now it's believed that this will be the "real Bitcoin" just like what has been said about Bitcoin Cash before.

What do you think about this controversy? Will Bitcoin Cash splinter into two distinct factions? Or will it remain the same? It looks like there would occur a split of the main BCH chain, causing Bitcoin SV to emerge. However, only one shall survive in the market (if not both or none of them). Looking forward for your thoughts Smiley

If I am going to choose between that, I will rather choose Bitcoin CASH. I just don't feel good with the satoshi vision, maybe I could buy some, but still prefer bitcoin cash based on my intuition.

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February 07, 2019, 10:00:19 PM

When Lightning network comes for serious they both will be useless. Perhaps they will be useful only for speculators, but not for everyday payments. So even if there will be a growth it will be artificial, not the natural one like with BTC.

Completely agree with you, mate. The Lightning Network if successful, it could render many Bitcoin forks useless. A simple block size increase won't solve the scalability problem, as the Blockchain will become clogged over time with high usage. By taking the huge load of transactions into a separate layer (Layer 2) from the main chain, the Blockchain will be able to process transactions with ease. Of course, anyone can raise the block size to their heart's content, in order to temporarily solve scalability problems. However, it has many risks (like centralization) that are not worth taking for the stability of the Blockchain.

As for the Lightning Network, if it were to fail, Bitcoin can safely continue as is without any disruptions. That's not possible with either BCH or BSV since everything happens on the main chain. In case something wrong happens, then the Blockchain network will become completely disrupted. Despite this, time will tell us which scalability solution (either block size increase or LN) is the most reliable one for the Bitcoin blockchain. Which means, that either BTC will win with its LN (if successful) or BCH/BSV with their block size increase. As for me, I believe that Bitcoin (BTC) will win in the long run. Just my thoughts Grin


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February 10, 2019, 07:48:02 AM

Everyone can make of it what they want.
https://medium.com/@craig_10243/the-story-of-bitcoin-continued-2f1ec78ba38b

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February 10, 2019, 08:28:32 AM

Craig Wright is a liar, unstable person and close to be called a psychopath. He is a con-artist and a hater. There is no reasoning in abiding by whatever nonsense he says unless you are either a payed shill or a scammer like him. He isn't intelligent either. Closer to average with most probable bellow average IQ. Cunning and deceptive. These traits don't qualify him as the genius you want him to be. In all seriousness stop following this mofo scammer.
No one cares about Craig Wright, miners control PoW chains and blockchains have no CEO


Says no one cares about Craig...


Only a few posts later, shares a Craig article.

Shows how corrupted and desperate the bcashSV shills has become. It is just like I predicted. Roger and Craig both are scammers and they just couldn't share the cake evenly. Now they are trying to promote their own scams but in a few years both of them will be no more.




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February 10, 2019, 08:48:50 AM

Craig Wright is a liar, unstable person and close to be called a psychopath. He is a con-artist and a hater. There is no reasoning in abiding by whatever nonsense he says unless you are either a payed shill or a scammer like him. He isn't intelligent either. Closer to average with most probable bellow average IQ. Cunning and deceptive. These traits don't qualify him as the genius you want him to be. In all seriousness stop following this mofo scammer.
No one cares about Craig Wright, miners control PoW chains and blockchains have no CEO


Says no one cares about Craig...


Only a few posts later, shares a Craig article.

Shows how corrupted and desperate the bcashSV shills has become. It is just like I predicted. Roger and Craig both are scammers and they just couldn't share the cake evenly. Now they are trying to promote their own scams but in a few years both of them will be no more.


Sharing an article has nothing to do with caring,  one or other may find it interesting.

The way things are since segregated witness hardfork
BTC is forking itself to dead, at least another 3 on horizon......(MimbleWimble, end of backward comparability, max supply change) LN is technically a altcoin anyway with own notes.......
BCH the Chinese Miners controlled junk
BSV can never free itself from that Craig character


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