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May 20, 2020, 11:30:12 PM
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they forked your name?
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May 21, 2020, 02:21:58 AM
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To 'jberher' - not sure what you are up to here. But you seem to have chosen your username deliberately to be confused with me. I believe this against this forum's terms of use. If you post further, without first providing a tenable explanation for this choice of username, I shall be forced ask the mods to deal appropriately.

they forked your name?

Seems to be a breach of protocol.

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May 21, 2020, 12:14:03 PM
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To 'jberher' - not sure what you are up to here. But you seem to have chosen your username deliberately to be confused with me. I believe this against this forum's terms of use. If you post further, without first providing a tenable explanation for this choice of username, I shall be forced ask the mods to deal appropriately.

they forked your name?

Seems to be a breach of protocol.

consensus needed. i vote on your side.
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May 21, 2020, 07:42:09 PM
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Things getting deeper

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6309656/kleiman-v-wright/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

There will be a coming out of some third (gov related)person next to Dave and Craig

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6309656/511/21/kleiman-v-wright/
About p200 or so

But, BitCoin just works , no matter who that is

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Things getting deeper

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6309656/kleiman-v-wright/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

There will be a coming out of some third (gov related)person next to Dave and Craig

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6309656/511/21/kleiman-v-wright/
About p200 or so

But, BitCoin just works , no matter who that is
Maybe you should get some Smiley


Get some Pizza today

Clean unforked  Pizza as 10y ago for clean unforked Bitcoin

That caused scaling to go global - yummy


Cheeeeeers

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EDIT:  Bit before Pizza: Get drunk !!


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8 Q. Did you ever exchange a printed -- strike
9 that. Did you ever exchange a key that is printed on a
10 piece of paper with Dave Kleiman?
11 MS. MARKOE: Objection.
12 THE WITNESS: Mr. Kleiman and I had been
13 in the country together once since the creation of
14 Bitcoin, where neither of us handed over any Bitcoin on
15 paper wallets, neither of us handed pieces of paper
16 together as we were drinking and getting drunk, to each
17 other on that day, and the value of the entire Bitcoin
18 market at that stage, when we got together, was,
19 I think, about $100, which was millions of Bitcoin, for
20 the entire value $100 was it. So, did I hand him a
21 piece of paper when we were in foreign countries: I do
22 not know how I could possibly do that.
23 BY MR. FREEDMAN:

(WITNESS = CSW)

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May 23, 2020, 10:00:57 AM
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Bitcoin can do that

Yes

No other crap coin or protocol (alteration) needed!

http://www.maxthon.com/blog/maxthon-6-choose-bsv/

Bitcoin is biggest 'attack' to the multicoin universe - incl fiat and gold

So its trolled that much - still



Edit: Nice stuff, options for devs who need to earn money by doing PoW by coding

https://coingeek.com/video/codugh-is-giving-api-developers-the-economic-incentive-they-deserve-video/


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May 25, 2020, 11:11:38 AM
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More than 100 addresses with unmoved bitcoin mined in 2009 (Satoshi?) just signed a message against CSW


https://www.reddit.com/r/bsv/comments/gq8ao1/more_than_100_addresses_with_unmoved_bitcoin/


https://twitter.com/Zectro1/status/1264867307546800130





"Craig Steven Wright is a liar and a fraud. He doesn't have the keys used to sign this message.

The Lightning Network is a significant achievement. However, we need to continue work on improving on-chain capacity.

Unfortunately, the solution is not to just change a constant in the code or to allow powerful participants to force out others.

We are all Satoshi"





BSVTards are all a bunch of vile creatures who have been pushing a blatant scam on unsuspecting noobs.

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you r getting really desparate

that's what it really proves

btc has lost its function - last one: specualtion seems to tank as well ?

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May 27, 2020, 08:09:27 AM
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Yes Gavin , lot of shit happened and still in the making

https://twitter.com/gavinandresen/status/1265432073587875847

ppl going retard on name calling since the truth is out, and args are not helping their bags

Hodl the sources and evidence - not the retards

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May 27, 2020, 09:50:03 PM
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Go play on the ledger of truth

No trolls there who try to make u believe when they want change rules or tell ya its game over

Cause they ve no say when game IS over

https://coingeek.com/why-esports-and-bitcoin-are-a-natural-match/

Just sports

Just Bitcoin

Fun kicking all the trolls out of the games and the entire internet, they already rant af

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May 28, 2020, 09:00:58 AM
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You see that rats come just over to ... where ?

Nice - thats the plan, build and live without the rats

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May 28, 2020, 06:20:39 PM
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Sure, get a cookie and some cheese

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May 29, 2020, 03:34:16 PM
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Here some impact also for this forum

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-preventing-online-censorship/

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May 30, 2020, 04:42:19 PM
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Let workers work

https://coingeek.com/the-story-behind-the-op_push_tx-technique/

Build on the only stable and fully open scaling BitCoin protocol (so many tried not to happen, but mehh...)


Things are cool, it s not only censorship resistant but also provenly un-trollable

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June 01, 2020, 09:03:43 AM
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Seems old 'farts' like him are back to teachin

https://youtu.be/Qal1leB05DQ

Creators now their stuff best - so is he ... ?


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June 05, 2020, 06:29:12 PM
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Quite frankly. If you sell segwit as BitCoin u must count loose screws

https://mobile.twitter.com/Bitstocks_/status/1268936050086498304

Bcore cannot count nodes... just lies

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June 06, 2020, 02:07:36 AM
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Quite frankly, if you still support BSV after all these blatant lies, you need to have a serious talk with yourself.

Get some fucking help asap.

Some day, you will learn that a blockchain which is unhampered by a centrally-planned production quota on transactions has a value independent of whatever other characters also see value in such an innovation.

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June 06, 2020, 10:52:32 AM
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Lots of 'blockchain' projects live and try to figure out

Cheap costs of running

No issues with governance

https://coingeek.com/vodafone-to-use-blockchain-as-tracking-tool-for-europe-power-grids/

Will they run on tcp like open value protocol fully open to scale?


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Quite frankly, if you still support BSV after all these blatant lies, you need to have a serious talk with yourself.

Get some fucking help asap.

Some day, you will learn that a blockchain which is unhampered by a centrally-planned production quota on transactions has a value independent of whatever other characters also see value in such an innovation.

What is exactly implied by centrally-planned quota? Does someone put shackles on u or limit how much u can transact? In this case, which coin BSV should be compared to, that it has this advantage of ultimate transactional freedom over? Maybe it would make sense to circle back to bitcoin from which the evolution of crypto unfolded and check whether it has quota on transaction throughput? What u say makes no sense.
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June 06, 2020, 04:55:21 PM
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Some day, you will learn that a blockchain which is unhampered by a centrally-planned production quota on transactions has a value independent of whatever other characters also see value in such an innovation.

Pretty much every part of this sentence is untrue, or at best incorrect.

- Bitcoin's block size cap is the result of consensus among the Bitcoin network and is not "centrally-planned."
- This limits the "production quota on transactions" only when talking about on-chain transactions.
- The value of anything is determined by those who value it. It is an opinion which requires human beings to formulate and does not exist on its own accord.

Conclude whatever you want about the value of huge blocks which have centralized your coin down to a relative handful of nodes -- I don't really care. What you don't get to pretend (without ridicule) is that BSV is in any shape or form the manifestation of "Satoshi's vision."

The Faketoshi Factor is still heavily priced in... I expect it to gradually fade away and put the fair market value of BSV at somewhere between $30 - $40 a coin. It may be years before it sinks this low, however, especially if BTC starts to take off and brings along the altcoin market with it (as it is wont to do).

May 20th, 2019: price of BSV is $61.70
May 21st, 2019: Craig registers copyright for Bitcoin white paper, price goes up 20%
May 29th, 2019: China "fake news tweet" says Wright transferred 50,000 BTC to Binance
June 25th, 2019: BSV reaches local high of $242
August 27th, 2019: Judge Reinhart rules against Wright, orders payment of 500,000 BTC to Kleiman estate
September 19th, 2019: Wright and Kleiman enter settlement discussions
December 19th, 2019: BSV reaches local low of $80
January 11th, 2020: Judge Bloom drops sanctions on Wright, gives him more time to receive documents from bonded courier
January 15th, 2020: BSV reaches local high of $343

Then pretty much every noticeable move since then has been tied to coronavirus economic fallout.

You speak of hacked and segshit injected segwit coin?

Btc is not bitcoin.

Lots of issues and tech dept

Not ready for finance


https://decrypt.co/31463/bitcoin-segwit-bug-fix-could-lock-wallet-users-out-funds


BSV  is BitCoin. Fixxed and ready to use

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June 06, 2020, 08:00:57 PM
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You know what I find curious? The fact that someone could hate a voluntary inanimate system with such inflamed passion that one invests a significant percentage of waking hours trying to tear that system down, rather than just ignoring it entirely. But that's neither here nor there. Let's move on to your irrelevant bloviating...

Some day, you will learn that a blockchain which is unhampered by a centrally-planned production quota on transactions has a value independent of whatever other characters also see value in such an innovation.

Pretty much every part of this sentence is untrue, or at best incorrect.

sez you. Let's tally.

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- Bitcoin's block size cap is the result of consensus among the Bitcoin network and is not "centrally-planned."

Har. I guess that's kind of defensible. In the same sense that the FED's recent orgy of money printer go brr is the result of the consensus of the American people, the consensus of the heads of America's trading partners, and the consensus of all the humans living within those countries. And to the same extent that such money printer go brr activity is not centrally planned.

If that qualifies as 'consensus' and 'not centrally-planned' to you, then have at it.

We have an alternate consensus. What are you gonna do? Round us up and gas us?

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- This limits the "production quota on transactions" only when talking about on-chain transactions.

Did I claim anything to the contrary? No. I did not. This is significant enough to be seen by me and others as A Big Problem.

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- The value of anything is determined by those who value it. It is an opinion which requires human beings to formulate and does not exist on its own accord.

Did I claim anything to the contrary? No. I did not.

Again, my thesis is that the value of the lack of a centrally-planned production quota upon transactions will become widely apparent when Blockalypse II is upon us. Your thesis can differ, and it affects me not in the least. Waaah.

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Conclude whatever you want about the value of huge blocks which have centralized your coin down to a relative handful of nodes -- I don't really care. What you don't get to pretend (without ridicule) is that BSV is in any shape or form the manifestation of "Satoshi's vision."

Ha. Neither do you about BTC. We each can point to evidence in Satoshi's writings that buttress our respective arguments. So what's your residual point? Do you even have one? Other than 'Aussie Man Bad'? Oh yeah - I forgot: 'Pedo Man Bad'. What else ya got?

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The Faketoshi Factor is still heavily priced in... I expect it to gradually fade away and put the fair market value of BSV at somewhere between $30 - $40 a coin. It may be years before it sinks this low, however, especially if BTC starts to take off and brings along the altcoin market with it (as it is wont to do).

May 20th, 2019: price of BSV is $61.70
May 21st, 2019: Craig registers copyright for Bitcoin white paper, price goes up 20%
May 29th, 2019: China "fake news tweet" says Wright transferred 50,000 BTC to Binance
June 25th, 2019: BSV reaches local high of $242
August 27th, 2019: Judge Reinhart rules against Wright, orders payment of 500,000 BTC to Kleiman estate
September 19th, 2019: Wright and Kleiman enter settlement discussions
December 19th, 2019: BSV reaches local low of $80
January 11th, 2020: Judge Bloom drops sanctions on Wright, gives him more time to receive documents from bonded courier
January 15th, 2020: BSV reaches local high of $343

Then pretty much every noticeable move since then has been tied to coronavirus economic fallout.

You still don't get it. A myopic focus upon today's current price is not what we see as valuable about this system. But hey - you do you.

Meanwhile, some cabal of early miners have put 145 last nails in CSW's coffin, and the BSV price is essentially unaffected. Sux to be U.

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