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October 28, 2011, 05:45:06 PM
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Name something "socialist" Obama has actually done. He is further right than George Bush

I hope you're kidding. What hasn't both of them done, in almost every case, that didn't happen to be Socialist?

Every policy and almost every word coming out of both of their mouths has been Socialist, if not Fascist. Give them 5 minutes at the podium and you can see that one.

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October 29, 2011, 05:42:48 AM
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Name something "socialist" Obama has actually done. He is further right than George Bush

Great!  Then you won't mind if we vote for Herman Cain, who is also to the right of George Bush.

Hey, I don't think you answered his question at all. Must have been an oversight.


His statement was so ridiculous I didn't realize others would actually think it had merit.  So for those of you reading this thread from Zuccatti Park, the following actions by the man you elected would be considered socialist:

-nationalizing Chrysler
-nationalizing General Motors
-individual healthcare mandate

A socialist would have nationalized successful industries, not bailed out failing ones.  A socialist would have mandated government provided health care, not forced people to buy insurance from private corporations.

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Those are three pretty big ones.  And never mind the appointment of radicals throughout the administration

You're talking about his socialist cabinet of socialist Goldman Sachs execs here?

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and the left-wing social policies such as going to war against Arizona's attempt to bring order to immigration in the state.

Oh, okay, I get it now. Any vaguely liberal policy is an example of socialism. By this logic, Reagan granting amnesty to three million illegal immigrants in the '80s must make him a super duper Marxist-Leninist.

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Of course you'll respond with 'he's not a socialist, he's a fascist', but fascism is just another form of socialism.

Haha yeah okay, Mr. Beck. Jesus fucking Christ. Take this theory to literally any political science or history professor in the world and see what he says. But I guess they're part of the ivory tower socialist conspiracy as well. Personally, I only trust former morning zoo DJs on matters of this importance.

Even if you're dumb enough to believe all of that, the fact that real socialists hate Obama even more then you do should probably tell you something. Unfortunately it does not.
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October 29, 2011, 05:43:30 PM
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Even if you're dumb enough to believe all of that, the fact that real socialists hate Obama even more then you do should probably tell you something. Unfortunately it does not.

It tells me they are a bunch of racist bastards! I bet there are no black people at their rallies either!

(Sarcasm) [Juxtaposition of the Tea Party and Socialists in order to highlight the perils of using induction to extract motives from arbitrarily chosen examples] Annotated for the thinking impaired.
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October 31, 2011, 10:31:49 AM
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Has anyone every researched Herman Cain?

He has a degree in computer science. He is probably the only candidate capable of understanding bitcoin.


He also part of the FED at one point, so I don't he would support bitcoin!


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October 31, 2011, 10:22:53 PM
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It tells me they are a bunch of racist bastards! I bet there are no black people at their rallies either!

Obama is only part black.  All the US presidents have had the same ancestry.  David Icke has details of it somewhere on the internet.

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October 31, 2011, 11:03:15 PM
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He also part of the FED at one point, so I don't he would support bitcoin!

Sounds like a Halloween story... He was my neighbor and seemed like a nice guy, then I found out it was all a cover story. He was secretly a Federal Reserve chairman! When little kids came to his house for halloween, he didn't give out any commodity candy! Instead he handed out worthless Federal Reserve Notes!!!! Aaaahhhhhh!


Obama is only part black.  All the US presidents have had the same ancestry.  David Icke has details of it somewhere on the internet.

I live in a society for which there is no hope. Re-read the bit above about annotated sarcasm.
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November 01, 2011, 03:35:11 AM
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I live in a society for which there is no hope. Re-read the bit above about annotated sarcasm.

In a fight between hope and crazy, crazy wins every time.

This theory also explains the current field of GOP candidates.
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November 01, 2011, 03:35:17 PM
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A socialist would have nationalized successful industries, not bailed out failing ones.  A socialist would have mandated government provided health care, not forced people to buy insurance from private corporations.

A socialist does both of those but for different reasons. Mandating and forcing are synonymous with initiating aggression, so neither option is nice.

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Oh, okay, I get it now. Any vaguely liberal policy is an example of socialism. By this logic, Reagan granting amnesty to three million illegal immigrants in the '80s must make him a super duper Marxist-Leninist.

Glad to see you're catching on. However, Reagan granting amnesty to immigrants is a violation of the U.S. Constitution, so while it may not be socialist per se, it was a violation of his oath of office. He lives in the Executive branch of government not the Legislative (read Article 1 Sec. 8 Clause 3). My personal opinion is that nobody should grant access to other people's property if it isn't theirs. Tragedy of the commons issue again.

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Take this theory to literally any political science or history professor in the world and see what he says. But I guess they're part of the ivory tower socialist conspiracy as well. Personally, I only trust former morning zoo DJs on matters of this importance.

Why should anybody trust a political science professor? Most of them are supported by the state. That would be called legal plunder. Nothing conspiratorial really, just your regular vanilla theft disguised as legal "higher education". None of them are going to risk their jobs, pensions, or tenure to tell the truth. No need to consult a DJ, just follow the proverbial bread crumbs. It's a who dunnit mystery a 13 yr old could follow.

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Even if you're dumb enough to believe all of that, the fact that real socialists hate Obama even more then you do should probably tell you something. Unfortunately it does not.

Perhaps there is no honor among thieves?

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November 01, 2011, 03:43:15 PM
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A socialist would have nationalized successful industries, not bailed out failing ones.  A socialist would have mandated government provided health care, not forced people to buy insurance from private corporations.

A socialist does both of those but for different reasons. Mandating and forcing are synonymous with initiating aggression, so neither option is nice.

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Oh, okay, I get it now. Any vaguely liberal policy is an example of socialism. By this logic, Reagan granting amnesty to three million illegal immigrants in the '80s must make him a super duper Marxist-Leninist.

Glad to see you're catching on. However, Reagan granting amnesty to immigrants is a violation of the U.S. Constitution, so while it may not be socialist per se, it was a violation of his oath of office. He lives in the Executive branch of government not the Legislative (read Article 1 Sec. 8 Clause 3). My personal opinion is that nobody should grant access to other people's property if it isn't theirs. Tragedy of the commons issue again.

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Take this theory to literally any political science or history professor in the world and see what he says. But I guess they're part of the ivory tower socialist conspiracy as well. Personally, I only trust former morning zoo DJs on matters of this importance.

Why should anybody trust a political science professor? Most of them are supported by the state. That would be called legal plunder. Nothing conspiratorial really, just your regular vanilla theft disguised as legal "higher education". None of them are going to risk their jobs, pensions, or tenure to tell the truth. No need to consult a DJ, just follow the proverbial bread crumbs. It's a who dunnit mystery a 13 yr old could follow.

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Even if you're dumb enough to believe all of that, the fact that real socialists hate Obama even more then you do should probably tell you something. Unfortunately it does not.

Perhaps there is no honor among thieves?

Aww, lookit this cute little selective reader.  The cognitive dissonance is strong in this one.
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November 01, 2011, 03:58:39 PM
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Aww, lookit this cute little selective reader.  The cognitive dissonance is strong in this one.

I just responded to the comments as written. What in there constituted cognitive dissonance? I thought I was fairly consistent, unless the commenter was just joking, in which case. Ha Ha, oh so funny? Moving on I guess.

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November 01, 2011, 04:14:42 PM
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This is not how a venne diagram works. Posting this publically will make people thing you were dropped on your head as a child.

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November 01, 2011, 04:38:50 PM
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Glad to see you're catching on.

The John Birch Society wants you back. There's a Communist water fluoridation scheme that you need to foil.
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November 01, 2011, 06:03:52 PM
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Glad to see you're catching on.

The John Birch Society wants you back. There's a Communist water fluoridation scheme that you need to foil.

I'm, in fact, already a card-carrying member. I've got bigger fish to fry than water fluoridation, but nevertheless would prefer that my water be pure H20, in addition to the water plant being privately owned. But you know, I can only hope.

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November 05, 2011, 02:17:50 PM
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Tea party is single issue: black man in white house.

I think there is a 95% chance he gets his info from what he sees on TV and reads on Media Matters.
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