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September 07, 2018, 01:59:37 PM
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that is a big problem though. because existence of newbie trader wannabes makes everything that much more unpredictable. so you may think a rumor is worth buying but the newbies panic on that and you think you should sell when the newbies are FOMO buying!

Newbie traders have to learn and start trading properly or get out of that business.
I think that crypto trading is more difficult than stock trading, exactly because of the fake news and manipulation (news and some exchanges too). But as I wrote in another place too, some just came here because they've found some advertising that crypto will make them rich no matter what.

The thing is that because crypto is available to anyone with at least $20
and any exchange is open to anyone with Bitcoin, anyone can start trading
without prior knowledge of what to do.

The availability of bitcoin and accessibility of exchanges combined with
"News" good or bad, true or false is transferred into the market and we get
big price shifts for no apparent reason, like yesterdays slump.

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September 07, 2018, 02:01:43 PM
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Price manipulation is done by using many ways.Publishing speculative news in favour of boosting bullish trend is a way.Here on the below link,we could see that news sites continuously release news that bitcoin price is to boom.If we see such moves,we should be cautious about investing otherwise we may get fooled and we might have to regret for our wrong investment.Don't let news media to decide your fortune.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/9dimq2/headlines_two_days_ago_this_is_how_market/



i think that is a bad news to us because they manipulate the price of it. Actually there are so many people that wanted to the price of it to increase but it only manipulate by others.
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September 07, 2018, 02:42:17 PM
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that is a big problem though. because existence of newbie trader wannabes makes everything that much more unpredictable. so you may think a rumor is worth buying but the newbies panic on that and you think you should sell when the newbies are FOMO buying!

Newbie traders have to learn and start trading properly or get out of that business.
I think that crypto trading is more difficult than stock trading, exactly because of the fake news and manipulation (news and some exchanges too). But as I wrote in another place too, some just came here because they've found some advertising that crypto will make them rich no matter what.

The thing is that because crypto is available to anyone with at least $20
and any exchange is open to anyone with Bitcoin, anyone can start trading
without prior knowledge of what to do.

The availability of bitcoin and accessibility of exchanges combined with
"News" good or bad, true or false is transferred into the market and we get
big price shifts for no apparent reason, like yesterdays slump.


somebody who joins the billion dollar market with $20 is not going to even put a dent in it. most of his money is going to be wasted on fees anyways. the problems is they have much more money that $20 because they don't know what risk taking means and there is a lot of them.

fortunately for us each drop that we had in the past 9 months kicked a lot of them out of the market and now we are no longer seeing any of them around.
as someone once said and i half agree with, right now the market is bots and day traders playing with each other.

There is a FOMO brewing...
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September 07, 2018, 02:48:40 PM
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Price manipulation is done by using many ways.Publishing speculative news in favour of boosting bullish trend is a way.Here on the below link,we could see that news sites continuously release news that bitcoin price is to boom.If we see such moves,we should be cautious about investing otherwise we may get fooled and we might have to regret for our wrong investment.Don't let news media to decide your fortune.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/9dimq2/headlines_two_days_ago_this_is_how_market/

Thank you for good advice.
In fact, manipulation is very often in media, politics, economy, everything etc.
Since many very young, inexperienced users invest in the different markets, crypto, Forex, stock markets etc. money they can't afford to loose, they are usually very emotional and afraid to loose.
So, it's very easy o influence such investors and manipulate.

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September 07, 2018, 03:08:01 PM
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99% of the things you read from news sites is not written to manipulate! they are publishing those articles to get clicks and earn money from those clicks. they don't care even if bitcoin dropped to 0 or went to $1 trillion. in both cases their source of income is from those clicks aka the traffic they get.

with that said when the community is desperate for seeing positive news to justify the rise that we are having they start publishing positive news and quote people who said "bitcoin to the moon". and when the community mood is otherwise they start quoting those who said "bitcoin is gonna die".
it is more like moving with the wind rather than wanting to cause the wind!

I actually agree with you. I learned that medias doesn't really care much about anything as long as they get those views and those money from the outside. They attack all sorts of personalities, companies, and even this cryptocurrency to get in touch with the trend and get those money flowing. Although the rumors of whales paying medias to spread bias news is kind of plausible, news that is trending for clicks is still believable to me.
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September 07, 2018, 03:14:52 PM
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When the market is dropping like now so being patient is the main key to profit, a lot of speculation is convinced that the price of cryptocurrencies is manipulation, and in my opinion this is not wrong because of devs. certainly want to make prices go up.

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September 07, 2018, 03:28:25 PM
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Don't listen to the media and all the noise that they bring. Ignore it completely. Only look at the charts, as the charts are fact and cannot be changed. Right now we are in a descending triangle, and it could either "moon" or "crater" around the end of this month. Prepare for either eventuality.
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September 07, 2018, 03:31:46 PM
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Price manipulation is done by using many ways.Publishing speculative news in favour of boosting bullish trend is a way.Here on the below link,we could see that news sites continuously release news that bitcoin price is to boom.If we see such moves,we should be cautious about investing otherwise we may get fooled and we might have to regret for our wrong investment.Don't let news media to decide your fortune.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/9dimq2/headlines_two_days_ago_this_is_how_market/

You would have to control a whole bunch of media outlets in order to be able to influence bitcoin's price.
It would be easier with a small market cap coin.
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September 07, 2018, 03:34:55 PM
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Don't listen to the media and all the noise that they bring. Ignore it completely. Only look at the charts, as the charts are fact and cannot be changed. Right now we are in a descending triangle, and it could either "moon" or "crater" around the end of this month. Prepare for either eventuality.
You advice not to listen to media but you expect the OP to believe your words--a stranger in some forum?

Charts are good only for a predictable market like traditional stocks. For a very volatile market like bitcoin, charts are useless. One bad news is enough to reverse your expected chart outcome.
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September 07, 2018, 03:39:43 PM
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If you are getting something for free, like news of social media, then it means that you are the product. Most commonly these services are monetized via advertising, but sometimes they engage in less open and legal dealings, like selling user data or publishing secretly sponsored articles. So, basing your trading decisions on analysis that you get from free sources is one of the worst mistakes one can make, everyone who starts learning how to trade knows it, but unfortunately many people in crypto don't know even the most basic things, they are drunk on their past profits and think they are naturals.
Wow, what a great point you've made here about being a product for social media. Infact they steer your behaviour in the way that is best for them. If they want you to sell your coins remember that there is someone behind willing to buy them and make some money.
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September 07, 2018, 03:44:29 PM
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99% of the things you read from news sites is not written to manipulate! they are publishing those articles to get clicks and earn money from those clicks. they don't care even if bitcoin dropped to 0 or went to $1 trillion. in both cases their source of income is from those clicks aka the traffic they get.

with that said when the community is desperate for seeing positive news to justify the rise that we are having they start publishing positive news and quote people who said "bitcoin to the moon". and when the community mood is otherwise they start quoting those who said "bitcoin is gonna die".
it is more like moving with the wind rather than wanting to cause the wind!

I actually agree with you. I learned that medias doesn't really care much about anything as long as they get those views and those money from the outside. They attack all sorts of personalities, companies, and even this cryptocurrency to get in touch with the trend and get those money flowing. Although the rumors of whales paying medias to spread bias news is kind of plausible, news that is trending for clicks is still believable to me.
They don't have any business with any results that they have done, as long as they've got the paychecks then they are good to go, those news who making people to act like crazy are really making impacts inside this industry as we are keep looking for some reason why movements goes to particular side and why things needs to be like that, influence build inside investors minds that if there's some strange movement they needed to know what are those factors that affecting and they always base things from news.

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September 07, 2018, 04:18:53 PM
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This is a reminder to everyone, thank you for sharing information. I think everyone cautioned that not only the ads but also some BTC market information will die, the crypto market is plummeting it will make people new panic and sell all that they have to exit off. I think people should calm down to make no mistake.

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Do people actually pay attention to these? I mean, there are new predictions popping up daily and it looks like the market has matured enough to ignore them. People only really talk about it if the person who made the prediction is popular or something and even then, expectations regarding its outcome are generally low.

I'm not saying there are no attempts, just that I don't think this would be a very effective one.

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September 22, 2018, 12:45:42 PM
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Another problem is that the "electronic news agencies" are money-oriented non-professional as possible and they can easily publish fake news. New traders must learn and start trading properly or exit the business. But as I wrote elsewhere, some only came here because they found some ads that the password would make them rich no matter what.
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September 22, 2018, 01:02:14 PM
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We can say so about every news not just crypto based. The mass media is making sheep's from us, pushing us to do things which are profitable only to small group of people which is on the top. That's why we should to set our own targets to the price of bitcoin and sell only if those terms came true.
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September 22, 2018, 02:51:17 PM
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Price manipulation is done by using many ways.Publishing speculative news in favour of boosting bullish trend is a way.Here on the below link,we could see that news sites continuously release news that bitcoin price is to boom.If we see such moves,we should be cautious about investing otherwise we may get fooled and we might have to regret for our wrong investment.Don't let news media to decide your fortune.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/9dimq2/headlines_two_days_ago_this_is_how_market/

Unfortunately we cannot do anything if there are some peoples manipulating the market.
If we know they are able to manipulate, what we can do is just stay calm and not panicking when the price falling or rising.
Always take action with your mind, not your emotion.

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I agree with the fact that we shouldn't let news media decide our future but not most of the crypto currency traders or investors understand that which is why I think we should not be ignore of their capacity either. Therefore, I believe using the technical, fundamental, new and watching the rate of shorts is the best way to know how the market works.

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September 22, 2018, 04:07:01 PM
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Price manipulation is done by using many ways.Publishing speculative news in favour of boosting bullish trend is a way.Here on the below link,we could see that news sites continuously release news that bitcoin price is to boom.If we see such moves,we should be cautious about investing otherwise we may get fooled and we might have to regret for our wrong investment.Don't let news media to decide your fortune.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/9dimq2/headlines_two_days_ago_this_is_how_market/
Actually this is not surprising. I am absolutely sure that whales "make" such "great" news through their big money and using marginal trading. So we have to always read and follow these news.
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September 22, 2018, 04:13:35 PM
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We will always encounter such news everyday good or bad about bitcoin. Sometimes we just have to follow our intuition into everything that we invest in. If it's too good to be true then maybe we can do some thorough research about the legitimacy of the news. Having knowledge about the technology and understanding the fluctuations of bitcoin's value will give us a hint whether the performance of bitcoin will make us profit or not.
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