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November 04, 2018, 01:08:35 PM
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Why someone would risk his capital at loss "betting" on an approval from the SEC? We are talking about thousands of million dollars.
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Exactly! What makes you think that someone who has access to millions of dollars won't have influence over the SEC? One could argue that if the person had influence over the SEC they could have approved the ETF at any given price, But if you ask me. That would have looked suspicious. To make it look like a "natural" decision you will most likely do the effort of stabilizing BTC on globally accepted support level.

Or it could be smart AIs repeating the history just like @pooya87 mentioned... The point here is that nobody can be certain of anything that's the beauty of "free markets".
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November 04, 2018, 10:22:16 PM
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But my question is still valid though. Why someone would risk his capital at loss "betting" on an approval from the SEC? We are talking about thousands of million dollars. I took $20,000 as an example because it was its ATH. But I could very well have considered $15, 000 or even $10,000. The market could very easily have been stabilized at these levels. (we are still considering someone with the resources to manipulate the market). After all, Bitcoin did not go from $1k (Early 2017) to $20k (End 2017)

What market makers look for is consensus, but then in terms of what the general market believes to be a support level. We didn't have that at any level above $7000 while market makers may have been trying to settle a floor somewhere, but there are too many sellers. Don't forget that the higher the price is, the less support your liquidity is able to provide.

$10 million in liquidity may seem like it is a lot, but it's peanuts. Around $15,000 your $10 million only stops ~670BTC, which whales obviously have no problems dumping through. As per this example you can imagine how difficult it is to artificially stabilize the price without the consensus of the market. On top of that, spot exchanges have very poor liquidity because of the lack of trust.

Who's going to wire hundreds of millions to an exchange? Deep pockets go straight to the source (miners) for large orders, or have an exchange as ItBit function as deal maker.
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November 04, 2018, 10:35:31 PM
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It's impossible to stabilize the price around $20,000 with how everyone with common sense sells at these levels.

I agree there's no point propping price when the trend is parabolic. You're bound to be holding bags.

But regarding "common sense" that's easy to say in hindsight, but hardly anyone was selling at $20K. There's been drastically higher volumes traded at lower levels. With that mindset, anyone with common sense might have been selling at $10K too. In a completely speculative market in the midst of a bubble, nobody has any idea where the top will be.

~$6000 and anything slightly above that is globally accepted to be the main support, at least for now, and people for that reason aren't willing to sell near these levels.

For now, yes. Whoever is supporting $6,000 may be "burning money" too. We'll only know in hindsight, long after these price levels are history. It was the same in the $200s. Whether this is the same situation as 2015 is still up in the air.

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November 20, 2018, 11:19:19 AM
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What is causing this?
My guess is this is manipulation, and my next guess is someone is waiting for order books to be filled before placing another big sell (or buy) order which will cause the next price jump.
I was reminded about this thread. The recent sharp price drop happened after a long period of relative price stability. This still supports my theory of someone waiting for full order books to cash in big.

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