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August 03, 2018, 08:27:28 AM
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I don't think so, too much freedom will absolutely bring chaos. Even though some of the governments control our moves, we still need them to keep the society more livable.

The thing about it is, the world would still function, it just wouldn't be as organized. There would be a ton of chaos, and anarchism isn't exactly sustainable, it's in human nature to form societies so over time you'd see governments form again.

I would just add that people always need a leader, someone who will take a responsibility for their decisions. Besides, our brain is made up in such a way that we strive for organized structure.
People who support anarchism are just tired of the existing government.
anarchism is a wrong view in my opinion, where a country and society must have a leader. a leader who can protect, help, love and serve his people. Anarchism can indeed be established in a country if there is something wrong in the structure of state leaders such as unjust leaders or leaders who forget their people. so that everyone becomes upset and does not want to be led or told by the leader. so for leaders who do not have the ability, you should not be a leader.
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August 03, 2018, 10:27:54 AM
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Idealistic anarchism sounds like a dream, but in reality, I fear people are far from being highly self-organized creatures ready for it. Should it become the reality, it is most likely to be a total disaster. I know someday people might become so civilized that anarchism may become a standard and totally safe practice. But this might happen (if it ever does) like thousands years from now.
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August 04, 2018, 12:42:58 PM
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Humans are tribalistic. We form hierarchical societies spontaneously, so I don't think anarchy would last long before being replaced with some form of government. If anarchy could be sustained then I think it would fail for the same reason that every other system of government has failed: We are inherently are selfish.

Crime is punished to disincentivize crime. Unfortunately, high-profile criminals often outrank the courts of law. I think that good education and parenting are excellent methods for decreasing crime. Children who understand morality will often carry those morals throughout their life, or even expand upon them  Smiley I suspect that a child who is treated with fairness or respect is more likely to treat others with fairness or respect.
I agree that humans seem to spontaneously form governments. Even in small groups, people seem to choose a leader. Either that or the leader just chooses himself and nobody complains. I'm wondering how the parenting part and crime is connected to anarchism. I guess that in anarchism there wouldn't be an official punishment for crimes. You are concerned that if there was not judicial system, criminals would be rampant? I agree that children who are raised well will be more likely to do good as adults, but how does that relate to anarchism? Wouldn't that be true in both anarchism and other political systems?
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September 01, 2018, 10:41:38 PM
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I would just add that people always need a leader, someone who will take a responsibility for their decisions. Besides, our brain is made up in such a way that we strive for organized structure.
People who support anarchism are just tired of the existing government.

People don't need a single leader. There were societies governed by elders and they functioned pretty well.


Anarchism wouldn't be able to sustain itself. At least that's how I see it. At some point people would start to organize themselves into groups because it would be easier for them to steal from others in a large group. At the same time others who would prefer a peaceful life would organize enclosed societies that would be able to defend better against those attacks. At some point the society would grow so much that it wouldn't be possible to rely information and coordinate everything without people who would dedicate their whole time to this task. That's how local governments would emerge.

Though is there any society which is so advanced that has been able to develop, or continue to develop under this sort of style of government? I don't think this has been the case, nor it ever will be.

I don't think Anarchism is able to support the advancements of society which have come so far -- some may say this is possible, but I personally just don't see it.

It may work on paper, and people may want it to occur -- I just don't see it as the correct way...

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September 01, 2018, 11:17:27 PM
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What are your thoughts on Anarchism?


Anarchism is what most governments are made up of. Sure, they state that they are a republic, or a democracy, or a monarchy, or something. Then they go out and steal property from their own people, make wars, and fight among themselves in anarchistic ways.

No government is far less anarchistic than government. How do you know? You know it by the fact that you obey all kinds of government laws that you could easily get away with disobeying. Yet it is governing people who disobey the laws and never get punished. Simply Google "pedophiles in government."

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September 03, 2018, 03:27:59 AM
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my opinion about anarchism is a group of people who do not want to learn the rules, and have their own thoughts and do not want the legal institutions that govern their lives and obviously this is very detrimental, because if the world without rules will cause chaos
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September 03, 2018, 04:32:01 AM
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I'm wondering what are people's thoughts on anarchism, could the world function if anarchism became a standard and what would it look like?
Well some would say it depends on the type of "Anarchism". Either it would be a world full of hipsters or actual chaos. Both would probably lead down the same path. If you want to know what a society run by anarchy looks, look at places like Venezuela and it gives you some idea of what will eventually come. 
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September 04, 2018, 03:58:27 AM
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Anarchism is uncontrollable, supporting the elimination of all coercion. It is often seen as a kind of extreme liberalism, regardless of national issues. Thus, states often forbid these movements, except for anarchist movements that respected the Constitution.
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September 04, 2018, 07:40:40 PM
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my opinion about anarchism is a group of people who do not want to learn the rules, and have their own thoughts and do not want the legal institutions that govern their lives and obviously this is very detrimental, because if the world without rules will cause chaos

People always want to learn the rules. Why? If they don't, they starve. Belly pain is some of the worst kind.

In anarchism, people still hunt, eat, grow gardens, live in houses, make and drive cars if they want, etc.

The difference is that they are free men and women, and they know it.

Anarchism and libertarianism are similar... in practice.

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September 05, 2018, 01:51:15 PM
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I'm wondering what are people's thoughts on anarchism, could the world function if anarchism became a standard and what would it look like?

anarchism wil last exactly for 0.00000000001 seconds, then there will be businesses and farming corporations (root of societies economy) that form protective interest groups and their interest becomes new rule of law.

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September 05, 2018, 09:03:26 PM
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Maybe in some perfect place where people live in harmony you dont need laws, jails and other punishments ,but in our world where we live their need to be laws i definitely think that chaos woud be unavoidable without laws ,there would always be a lot people that want to have control over a neiberhood or village or city or state and here you go war is everywhere

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September 08, 2018, 12:56:03 PM
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I'm wondering what are people's thoughts on anarchism, could the world function if anarchism became a standard and what would it look like?
Anarchism is an activity that in my opinion is an activity that does not need to be done because it does not have a positive aspect, and only leads to violence can even be more severe namely murder,

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September 08, 2018, 01:22:21 PM
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From Wikipedia, Anarchy:
Anarchy is the condition of a society, entity, group of people, or a single person that rejects hierarchy. The word originally meant leaderlessness, but in 1840 Pierre-Joseph Proudhon adopted the term in his treatise What Is Property? to refer to a new political philosophy: anarchism, which advocates stateless societies based on voluntary associations. In practical terms, anarchy can refer to the curtailment or abolition of traditional forms of government and institutions. It can also designate a nation (or anywhere on earth that is inhabited) that has no system of government or central rule. Anarchy is primarily advocated by anarchists, individuals who propose replacing government with voluntary institutions.

From Wikipedia, Anarchism:
Anarchism is a political philosophy that advocates self-governed societies based on voluntary institutions. These are often described as stateless societies, although several authors have defined them more specifically as institutions based on non-hierarchical or free associations. Anarchism holds the state to be undesirable, unnecessary and harmful.

Check the sub-links in both Wikipedia entries, above. The similarity seems to be statelessness, with both having free association of people at times. The difference is that the associations are formal with anarchism, but informal with anarchy.

The difference with libertarianism is that it can have formal government with liberty/freedom as the complete goal:
Libertarianism (from Latin: libertas, meaning "freedom") is a collection of political philosophies and movements that uphold liberty as a core principle.[1] Libertarians seek to maximize political freedom and autonomy, emphasizing freedom of choice, voluntary association, and individual judgment.[2][3][4] Libertarians share a skepticism of authority and state power, but they diverge on the scope of their opposition to existing political and economic systems. Various schools of libertarian thought offer a range of views regarding the legitimate functions of state and private power, often calling for the restriction or dissolution of coercive social institutions.[5]

In the USA, we have the right to form private associations for just about anything. This right is almost the greatest right that we have, next to the right of private property. Government doesn't control this right. We have it outside of government, and government even upholds it by many laws and court cases and basic writings. The only thing that government requires is that it is a formal association.

In other words. In America, we automatically have anarchism and libertarianism.

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Note that most people think of anarchy and anarchism to be wild, uncontrolled living. While it can be, it isn't necessarily that. It can simply mean freedom to live as one wants, and most people don't want lawlessness in their daily lives. Rather, they want freedom from government, along with right living. Anarchy and anarchism can be this kind of freedom life.

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September 13, 2018, 01:24:34 PM
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Idealistic anarchism sounds like a dream, but in reality, I fear people are far from being highly self-organized creatures ready for it. Should it become the reality, it is most likely to be a total disaster. I know someday people might become so civilized that anarchism may become a standard and totally safe practice. But this might happen (if it ever does) like thousands years from now.

Unfortunately, you're right. I don't believe anarchism may result in something good at the present stage of human race development. It'll take years and years.... I wish I could live until that dream becomes a reality Wink
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