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February 11, 2020, 11:43:04 AM
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The beta of our most complex feature to date is up and running on testnet, Multi-Party Agreements. Take a look at http://testnet.sign-web.app

https://youtu.be/B7pc1FGPBM4

https://twitter.com/SignatureChain/status/1227193872176074754



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February 17, 2020, 03:12:16 PM
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Our 2020 plans with Side Projects and extended development for http://sign-web.app is out!!

Also coming soon: Our community program allowing SIGN supporters to join the project and help us reach the adoption of our tools.

https://signature-chain.com/roadmap.html


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February 25, 2020, 03:15:07 PM
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We now have our own Signature Chain page on http://wavesplatform.com, thanks to Waves for the constant support.

Check it out https://wavesplatform.com/use-case/5e4d3b4b3985110010515c86

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March 01, 2020, 05:50:01 PM
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signature chain just for verification or the docs are also stored on the chain,like IPFS did?

No, nothing gets stored on the blockchain, no one gets to see the content of the files. We work with timestamps and hash ID's.
Each file has its own unique hash ID, when the file gets altered the hash ID changes with it. Combining this with timestamping allows us to certify authenticity of basically anything digital without people actually getting to see the contents of what is being certified.
So,why need a new chain to get hash ID when there were such service based on bitcoin?
http://www.proofofexistence.com

My argument would be because Bitcoin itself is aging. If we ever reach the transaction fees from 2017 again it'll be more expensive than doing centralized certification, in some cases even slower.


Nah thats not an argument. Every single blockchain can be used this way. Even Tittycoin can be used to get proof of authenticity of anything. Lol. Now a scoundrel like u with saggy tits comes up with a solution like this BUT this not a solution, it is merely part of the idea of any blockchain. The one can obtain non-falsifiable proofs by just hashing a digital image of whatever and verifying that with the blockchain. Bang! ur fradulent scheme just got uncovered.
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March 02, 2020, 12:50:09 AM
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signature chain just for verification or the docs are also stored on the chain,like IPFS did?

No, nothing gets stored on the blockchain, no one gets to see the content of the files. We work with timestamps and hash ID's.
Each file has its own unique hash ID, when the file gets altered the hash ID changes with it. Combining this with timestamping allows us to certify authenticity of basically anything digital without people actually getting to see the contents of what is being certified.
So,why need a new chain to get hash ID when there were such service based on bitcoin?
http://www.proofofexistence.com

My argument would be because Bitcoin itself is aging. If we ever reach the transaction fees from 2017 again it'll be more expensive than doing centralized certification, in some cases even slower.


Nah thats not an argument. Every single blockchain can be used this way. Even Tittycoin can be used to get proof of authenticity of anything. Lol. Now a scoundrel like u with saggy tits comes up with a solution like this BUT this not a solution, it is merely part of the idea of any blockchain. The one can obtain non-falsifiable proofs by just hashing a digital image of whatever and verifying that with the blockchain. Bang! ur fradulent scheme just got uncovered.

Ofcourse every blockchain can do this. Every blockchain can also do decentralized web hosting. It's not about what a blockchain CAN do. It's about what it IS doing. The partners, the applications, the users the list goes on. It's not simply about the smart contract. It's like saying well this business COULD also do that, they just don't have it worked out in an ease of use way, have 0 users and actually don't even have a dApp for it..

And yes it is a valid argument because doing this on Bitcoin is simply too expensive and slow, that is undeniable.

Signature Chain has been developing non stop for 1.5 years with constant loss of funds instead of profits so if this project were a scam they're doing pretty terrible. The connections with Waves Platform and already existing applications scream of this not being a scam. Please look into the project you're trying to call a scam.

I would love to see a comment from you on my reply.
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March 03, 2020, 03:12:01 PM
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As planned we had another 20M tokens burned today. These are the unswapped tokens from our SICA -> SIGN swap that took place in July 2019.

If you still hold any SICA tokens, it is your last chance to swap them this month before the last token burn.

For any support: https://t.me/SICA_official

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March 03, 2020, 03:13:42 PM
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SIGN Explorer will be ready this month and will allow you to:

- Search Certifications by TXID, Hash or Reference
- Drag and Drop a Proof Of Certification for verification
- Share a direct link to a Certification

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPMLjxSDLtQ
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March 11, 2020, 07:47:08 PM
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Another feature to be added in the next release is IPFS implementation.

This will give you the possibility to store your certified file / document on IPFS decentralized storage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GevBE-lG9Q0&feature=emb_title
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March 17, 2020, 12:11:10 PM
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Never noticed this project. Good to see projects utilizing Blockchain in many spaces. I'm just curious what makes your project different from DeepVault from DeepOnion. They have already built some good app which I can't see with Signature Chain. One can easily use DeepVault from DeepOnion Wallet, DeepVault website and browser based extension which is very easy to use. As far as I know, they are working on an Android app too. What's your position on these? Sorry if I have missed any info here.

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March 18, 2020, 11:59:45 PM
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Never noticed this project. Good to see projects utilizing Blockchain in many spaces. I'm just curious what makes your project different from DeepVault from DeepOnion. They have already built some good app which I can't see with Signature Chain. One can easily use DeepVault from DeepOnion Wallet, DeepVault website and browser based extension which is very easy to use. As far as I know, they are working on an Android app too. What's your position on these? Sorry if I have missed any info here.

Hey thanks for your interest.

I've never heard or seen this project, however upon closer inspection I've came to the realization that sadly it is centralized, they store private keys in a database, they store user data in a database, they require manual payment, the list goes on, it's just like our "competitor" V-ID.. Our project is 100% decentralized with no human interference. As for our dApp, we have infact built one, one with many features which I'm not sure if DeepOnion has like E-Mail Certification, FIAT options, All file certificates, Mutual Agreements, it's super UI friendly, mass tranfers. And might I add, it already works on all mobile devices.

After all that though, just check it out yourself at sign-web.app .
I hope I've been able to inform you Smiley

We also have a video which shows off the dApp found at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgR58B8i9-Q
It is slightly outdated since we've added features, fixed some bugs, made UI changes etc. But it shows the main look of the dApp and a few features + mobile support.
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March 19, 2020, 01:58:11 PM
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Sounds good and thanks for the prompt reply. It seems you have a lot of other feature which DeepOnion may not have. I don't want to argue with you here about the centralization part because I don't want to derail your thread with off topic for your project. Just would appreciate if you share how you see centralization there. I won't mind if you send me PM here to respond as I don't want to put comment here about other project.
Also, I would love to invite DeepOnion community here if you think that could bring a good argument.

Just to let you know, DeepOnion payment isn't manual. It's automatically deducted the fee when you register a docx.

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March 19, 2020, 11:07:32 PM
Last edit: March 19, 2020, 11:18:02 PM by SignatureChain
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Sounds good and thanks for the prompt reply. It seems you have a lot of other feature which DeepOnion may not have. I don't want to argue with you here about the centralization part because I don't want to derail your thread with off topic for your project. Just would appreciate if you share how you see centralization there. I won't mind if you send me PM here to respond as I don't want to put comment here about other project.
Also, I would love to invite DeepOnion community here if you think that could bring a good argument.

Just to let you know, DeepOnion payment isn't manual. It's automatically deducted the fee when you register a docx.

Hey thanks for the reply, I'll PM you with details on how it has an edge towards centralization. I wouldn't start a clash between communities on which project is better, it's quite pointless, it's better to unite and move faster, even though in this case it wouldn't be possible. As for the manual payment, I could definitely have been wrong, I have not logged into the site but it was a simple assumption seeing their price list + these prices giving certain priveleges, which I assumed would be manually applied.
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March 20, 2020, 10:11:23 AM
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I received your PM. Thought to reply here because it was a misunderstanding. Hope you won't mind it.
DeepVaultOnline is web based service for DeepVault but it can be used from DeepOnion wallet too. It's not centralized or data storing at all. It's totally decentralized. Web based service isn't centralized too. It's the same as of blockchain.com wallet.

Anyway, thanks for your reply. I'm interested in Signature Chain too. After all, we need the best one to use. Thank you a lot.

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March 20, 2020, 10:37:34 AM
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I received your PM. Thought to reply here because it was a misunderstanding. Hope you won't mind it.
DeepVaultOnline is web based service for DeepVault but it can be used from DeepOnion wallet too. It's not centralized or data storing at all. It's totally decentralized. Web based service isn't centralized too. It's the same as of blockchain.com wallet.

Anyway, thanks for your reply. I'm interested in Signature Chain too. After all, we need the best one to use. Thank you a lot.

Huh
They clearly state coins are not safe when stored in this web wallet application, indicating that in fact, these keys are stored in a database, it shouldn't be used as a wallet as there is risk of a database being hacked. You're required to sign up with an E-Mail address for an account which again is stored in a traditional centralized way in a database. I think you must've misunderstood my explanation. The certification process itself is decentralized, however the entry barrier is completely centralized with regular databases. The downloadable DeepOnion wallet could be 100% decentralized, I haven't look at it yet, but the web wallet definitely is not.

I could be completely missing something here since it is a foreign project to me.
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March 27, 2020, 05:55:17 PM
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Hello everyone,

I'm very happy to be sharing another development update with all of you.
We are proud to announce the release of the full http://sign-web.app on Waves Mainnet with the latest features:

- Multi-Party Agreement
- Verification Explorer
- Swap $USDN for $SIGN Credit
- Improved UI/UX

Check out our Medium post about this update for more information:
https://medium.com/@signaturechain/signature-chain-full-mainnet-release-d783fcff0d71
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