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September 12, 2018, 07:14:58 AM
Last edit: September 12, 2018, 07:30:31 AM by Coolcryptovator
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Alternate solution by community instead of pushing  theymos. We can see lot of suggestion in last few months. Unfortunately we can't see any reaction from admin. Due to lot of suggestion I don't think it's possible implement all. Obviously there is few suggestion theymos should consider.

However there is no alternatives way to solution or reduce problems? I think we can, although not possible completely but community can reduce problems instead of just pushing admin. We can share possible solution and step up for action.

I will collect all the suggestion from hilariousetc post Community generated suggestions to improve the forum instead of search all meta post. I will picked few suggestion that possible solution or can be reduce. There is many similar suggestion, I will pick one of them.

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A newbie welcome message or link to a welcome thread upon sign-up explaining the basic rules and links to everything they need to know including the full forum rules, helpful guides and FAQs etc. No excuses for not knowing the rules then.

Obviously this is a good suggestion for newbie. Since there is no respons from theymos I would like to suggest sticked a post on every board like index. Subject could be Index, must read before posing or something similar. That thread should include all the information & useful thread link created by community that need to know for newbie. Like LoyceV created this thread. On the other hand I noticed there is multiple sticked post by same user few most of boards. It could be combinde in same post. On the other hand few useful topic can be sticked together. And index topic should not lock for question from newbie, so someone from community can answer them. Of course we need help from moderators for that.

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Require at least one merit to become a Junior Member

There is multiple suggestion almost same about Jr. Members and remove signature. This is the most important suggestion by community & theymos should consider this suggestion. To be honest problem isn't Jr. Members , problem is signature campaign. Obviously it can be reduce by community. To avoid spamming Jr. should not allow by managers. Already some managers never accept Jr. Members. Sticked a post dedicated for managers and participant about signature campaign unofficial rules. There should be involved trust system. Should tagged managers who will allow Jr. Members, although there is so many red tagged managers. However if managers not follow than tagged Jr. Members. Tagged should be temporary until they remove signature , Of course tagged member will request to removed tag. I know it's little bit complicated, but not impossible. I believe we have not to continue it more than a month. Because between one month every one will know that he will get tagged if not follow it. As far as I know people's always try to avoid red paint. I can't see others solution except it if admin not disable sign or require small merit for become Jr. Members. If you have any other solution than share it here.

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Posts from lower ranked accounts don't bump ICO threads to the top (which would then render paid bump spam useless).

Need encourage more people's for report using patrol page. There is active moderators on ICO ANN board. Sometimes take action within 10 minutes. I am not sure how to encourage people for reporting. Perhaps it would be small merit giveaway. Like 1 merit for each 500 good report. On the other hand a spam reporter couldn't spammer himself.

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A 'bump button' for the marketplace that only allows you to bump your thread once every 24 hours. Manually bumping by posting will then be disallowed. As mentioned above, posts by lower ranked accounts could not be able to bump threads thus curbing potential abuse.


I don't think so it's necesarry to implement on current situation, there is more important suggestion for implementation. Same comment as above I discussed, need more patroller post report.

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A sub board for highly merited users to encourage constructive topics only by users who have proven their worth here over time (or make the Ivory Tower merit requirement much higher [OMG ITS LIKE SOVIET RUSSIA GULAG]).
Not agree with that, if implement that community will missed lot of quality and useful post. Useful post could be post on meta or help & beginner board, so it will visible for all.

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Charging ICOs a fee to make their ANN here. You could even get rid of the ANN board completely and give them their own sub once they've paid the fee.

Who will be responsible for scam ? Currently no one blaming forum for scam due to not moderated by forum. But when forum will get paid than question will go to admin why you allow this ICO for sub board?

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Additional perks for Legendary accounts or a higher rank if added

What is next ? If added one more rank than people might ask for another rank. It's look fine current rank system.

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Add badges as a reward for high reporters and/or merited users
Admin already seeking for that. About merit I already discussed above.

If I am wrong , I will not argue since its my own opinion. You can share your thoughts. Also about others suggestion. Lot of more suggestion here. We can't reduce pressure from admin? I think possible reduce if we share each other what would best action by forum. No need all forum members for revolutions. Did you saw whole country people perticipate if happened any revolutions ? I don't think so. It might be hard but I don't think impossible few thing.

Please share your thought if there is alternative solutions by community about any suggested post. We can't try our best instead of blaming theymos ?

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September 12, 2018, 07:26:52 AM
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Theymos has already acknowledge most of these things, and he isn't completely against most of them. He's likely been considering changes for a while, but doesn't want to rush implementing something if there's better options or maybe its just a lack of time?

Anyway, I'm sure you've seen this, but for anyone that hasn't take a look at theymos' response.

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September 12, 2018, 12:23:50 PM
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Yuph, the reporters badge are not even released yet (or not yet even implemented) so it means theymos doesn't have much time to do the implementation of these ideas.

but doesn't want to rush implementing something if there's better options or maybe its just a lack of time?
I think he just don't have much time, let's just leave it to him as I assure he is working on it by now. But some problems may get even worse if those idea took too long before implemented.

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September 12, 2018, 12:54:37 PM
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Op, that is kind of what i'm doing, taking matters in my own hands  Smiley is not possible to apply these solutions for everything offcourse, but something can be done independently.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5023605.0
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September 12, 2018, 01:11:16 PM
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I honestly don't understand what the point of this thread is about or why you couldn't just use the other one. You said 'Alternative solutions by community instead of pushing theymos' but don't seem to have made any solutions and half of the things you've commented on or proposed actually need theymos' input or help.



Please share your thought if there is alternative solutions by community about any suggested post. We can't try our best instead of blaming theymos ?

Nothing can be done without him making changes at the top. Anything else is pointless because you don't make the rules here nor can you implement the changes that need to be made. You can't punish ICOs nor can you remove signatures from lower ranks and any of the other suggestions or changes are just superficial that don't tackle the root cause of the issue and that's why we need theymos to act here. If he doesn't then nothing will change.

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September 12, 2018, 01:21:57 PM
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Anyway, I'm sure you've seen this, but for anyone that hasn't take a look at theymos' response.

Got it. Thanks for remind. Theymos already answered about it. So thread should be locked anyway.

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