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October 04, 2018, 02:50:31 PM
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Looks like Rahar misplaced the decimal! At that rate its probably cheaper to run a gasoline generator haha.

My calculation for 1 year revenue with the eco spec machine:
$608
Assumptions:
$0.05 per KW/h
7% difficulty increase per month
3% BTC/USD exchange rate increase per month

Hopefully Triple-1's pricing will be reasonable...

Used https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/mining

Ah yes, pardon me, misplaced the decimal, been a long time since the last time calculated this stuff Grin.
with $0.08 per kWh, the initial result should be BTC0.01467 or $52.27 profit/month.
Thanks for the link.
Yeah, waiting for the price, if it cost around $1300-$1500, we may break even in 2 years🤔, but hopefully btc price goes up to counterbalance rising of the difficulty over time.
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October 11, 2018, 12:28:34 PM
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well due to the storm that hit Florida, I was delayed in getting in touch with them, our talk was more around 1030pm rather than 800pm.

They did say much, they more or less wanted to know how many miners I currently have - whether I was a large farm or a small farm, whether I do both GPU and ASIC mining, how many of their miners I plan on getting etc.

I did ask about pricing and about independent testing of their miners - they stated they have someone doing testing/reviews but are not sharing that information at this time but hopefully will be sharing it soon.

They did not have an estimate on pricing at this time.

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October 11, 2018, 05:29:53 PM
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well due to the storm that hit Florida, I was delayed in getting in touch with them, our talk was more around 1030pm rather than 800pm.

They did say much, they more or less wanted to know how many miners I currently have - whether I was a large farm or a small farm, whether I do both GPU and ASIC mining, how many of their miners I plan on getting etc.

I did ask about pricing and about independent testing of their miners - they stated they have someone doing testing/reviews but are not sharing that information at this time but hopefully will be sharing it soon.

They did not have an estimate on pricing at this time.

This will only be a solid miner is pricing is fair.  If they think they are going to charge like $2000 for a miner then it's fucking useless lol.  I'm sick of these mining companies charging price based off a ROI of like.. 1.5 years at current difficulty and price.  Meanwhile bitmain comes in, charges half the price, and kills them.  Hate bitmain but it's like they are the only ones with a brain in marketing lately.  I don't want to buy a product based off HOPE that a coin will rise in price drastically, this isn't Star Wars here.
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October 12, 2018, 02:48:27 AM
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This will only be a solid miner is pricing is fair.  If they think they are going to charge like $2000 for a miner then it's fucking useless lol.  I'm sick of these mining companies charging price based off a ROI of like.. 1.5 years at current difficulty and price.  Meanwhile bitmain comes in, charges half the price, and kills them.  Hate bitmain but it's like they are the only ones with a brain in marketing lately.  I don't want to buy a product based off HOPE that a coin will rise in price drastically, this isn't Star Wars here.

I agree.

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October 18, 2018, 02:59:52 PM
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Any update on release of price of this miner yet?
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October 18, 2018, 03:30:31 PM
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Any update on release of price of this miner yet?

I would like to know as well - I did ask and they skipped answering that question.

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October 31, 2018, 01:59:15 AM
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I had reached out to them to get any more information about the miners regarding ship date, cost, and reviews.

Their reply was that they have or will have only a small number of Demo units, and have many inquiries/offers for this. This doesn't meant one way or another whether there will be any independent reviews done prior to launch.

As far as any other information, they plan to only use their website and other "official presses" to update people which is the same generic response others have received previously. So this looks like the website alone, as I couldn't find a Twitter or Facebook page advertised anywhere on the site.

Without them advertising if they've hit their benchmarks along the way with chip/demo unit delivery it's hard to say how long we are waiting. They still have the same information that their 1st mass production units are due by the end of November based on the road map.

The pro here is that they aren't taking any money up front at the moment. I'm just hoping we get some updates or a product launch soon

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October 31, 2018, 02:33:16 AM
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I had reached out to them to get any more information about the miners regarding ship date, cost, and reviews.

Their reply was that they have or will have only a small number of Demo units, and have many inquiries/offers for this. This doesn't meant one way or another whether there will be any independent reviews done prior to launch.

As far as any other information, they plan to only use their website and other "official presses" to update people which is the same generic response others have received previously. So this looks like the website alone, as I couldn't find a Twitter or Facebook page advertised anywhere on the site.

Without them advertising if they've hit their benchmarks along the way with chip/demo unit delivery it's hard to say how long we are waiting. They still have the same information that their 1st mass production units are due by the end of November based on the road map.

The pro here is that they aren't taking any money up front at the moment. I'm just hoping we get some updates or a product launch soon

pretty much the same responses I got - with the stats they claim to have, I would expect a lot more advertising and some independent reviews.

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October 31, 2018, 07:11:04 AM
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Yeah for all of the promoting of their project after milestones have passed on their roadmap, you could say were still in early September.

I don't know what the gameplan is here, maybe it's a cultural difference in how business is done. It could be that they really don't care about the global market and strictly want to deal within Japan alone for now.

Either way I can't wrap my head around the lack of anything like photos of chips and components or prototypes being unboxed. I won't count them out yet, as I've seen worse marketing still deliver the product.

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Yeah for all their are promoting their project after milestones have passed on their roadmap, you could say were still in early September.

I don't know what the gameplan is here, maybe it's a cultural difference in how business is done. It could be that they really don't care about the global market and strictly want to deal within Japan alone for now.

Either way I can't wrap my head around the lack of anything like photos of chips and components or prototypes being unboxed. I won't count them out yet, as I've seen worse marketing still deliver the product.

yeah, just think what halong did. lets see what the future brings
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October 31, 2018, 02:58:00 PM
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yeah, just think what halong did. lets see what the future brings

I wish Halong had worked out but it sank like a rock - really hope Triple-1 succeeds

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pretty much the same responses I got - with the stats they claim to have, I would expect a lot more advertising and some independent reviews.

Heard somewhere factories are back logged with all the manufacturers now.

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November 10, 2018, 04:25:59 AM
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Still no word?  We have less than 2 months left in this year.  If they intend to release this next year it better be a damn good price otherwise they will fall to the side like the others that try.
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Still no word?  We have less than 2 months left in this year.  If they intend to release this next year it better be a damn good price otherwise they will fall to the side like the others that try.

the last time I spoke with them I got the following:

"Regarding to 1st mass-production of 'KAMIKAZE,' we’re preparing to ship from Dec. 2018 as original schedule."

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the last time I spoke with them I got the following:

"Regarding to 1st mass-production of 'KAMIKAZE,' we’re preparing to ship from Dec. 2018 as original schedule."

I hope so, we are a month away now and not even a demo out or price information.  With inno and bitmain new miners out to order (even though not shipping till 2019 basically) I hope they price these things well.  I want reliability and a good price over the shit inno and bitmain are pushing out.
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I hope so, we are a month away now and not even a demo out or price information.  With inno and bitmain new miners out to order (even though not shipping till 2019 basically) I hope they price these things well.  I want reliability and a good price over the shit inno and bitmain are pushing out.

I agree... the specs are good on the new ones coming out but the prices push the roi out way too far - and we have already learned that if roi isnt within 6-9 months you most likely will not make it to roi as difficulty increases - and we all know it will as soon as the first few batches of these new miners hit the network. so if its looking like 6-9 months now, it i so going to be 12-15 months most likely. at least that is my opinion.

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I agree... the specs are good on the new ones coming out but the prices push the roi out way too far - and we have already learned that if roi isnt within 6-9 months you most likely will not make it to roi as difficulty increases - and we all know it will as soon as the first few batches of these new miners hit the network. so if its looking like 6-9 months now, it i so going to be 12-15 months most likely. at least that is my opinion.

Exactly, and then you are left praying for a bullrun just to ROI.  Greed kills these companies
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Well at least it's a Japanese company so tariffs won't apply just the standard duty but still need to see where the pirce and release lands. I imagine Bitmain has bogart TSMC for the remained of Q4 hurting other manufacturers releases.

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Well at least it's a Japanese company so tariffs won't apply just the standard duty but still need to see where the pirce and release lands. I imagine Bitmain has bogart TSMC for the remained of Q4 hurting other manufacturers releases.

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December 11, 2018, 03:35:15 PM
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Gaku, my contact at Triple-1, says: "1st version is for our limited customers and price for general customers is still considering carefully now."

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