Enhanced newbie restrictions & requirements

[Lafu]

This forum is so strict.
Most users is now Newbie. Kaka
I have 3-year experiences in Bitcoin and crypto investment but I still just a Newbie in Bitcointalk forum

Maybe you should think about why!

If i watch your post history and saw the 3rd post i stoped reading and all is clear !

Just crap

[o_e_l_e_o]

I have 3-year experiences in Bitcoin and crypto investment but I still just a Newbie in Bitcointalk forum

The whole point of the merit system is to stop people ranking up simply by existing. You actually have to contribute meaningfully to a discussion. I'm afraid I agree with Lafu - there is nothing in your generic, vague 2 line replies that is worthy of merit.

[Foxpup]

This forum is so strict.
Most users is now Newbie. Kaka

That's no way to speak in public, young lady. If you ever want to earn merits on this forum, you'd better watch your language. It's "most users are now newbies." (And learn to swear like a grown-up, for fuck's sake.)

[DdmrDdmr]

<…> I have 3-year experiences in Bitcoin and crypto investment but I still just a Newbie in Bitcointalk forum

Therefore you should theoretically be in a position to overcome your Newbie Rank, simply by using all that amassed knowledge and experience on the forum through decent posts …

[matthew1981]

How about those people that's is deserving to be a Jr member even without merit. Is this can be possibly get ranked up and join bounty to earn money? Its true that there's a lot of people posting nonsense and doing shitpost in forum but how about those deserving ones. I think reviewing other post can be a helpful to be ranked up.

[cabalism13]

How about those people that's is deserving to be a Jr member even without merit. Is this can be possibly get ranked up and join bounty to earn money? Its true that there's a lot of people posting nonsense and doing shitpost in forum but how about those deserving ones. I think reviewing other post can be a helpful to be ranked up.

The primary purpose of this forum is not to earn money but to discuss about bitcoins and digital currency. So can you focus on discussion only please 

[+1]

And to answer his question... you may find one in your Local Board, I know there are some people who offers there time reviewing other accounts just to help their fellow countryman. But if you still find it hard, then the possibility of ranking up for you would be 0.1 percent ( you're still lucky because it wasn't still on the exact Zero percentage)

[Lind]

Draco's code style, well I was thinking of other system, then considering bounty etc.. I have to say, this is the best solution with least effort.  

But I might have a good example, I am on a tech forum where we have:

Point system for comments, comments in specific topics give u points while others are worth less points, shit posting warning then ban (With your personnel dunno, as money is involved so shit posters attack in waves) + Registration time (without bans/warnings) as a + requirement for certain ranks.

We have these in the formula:

Professional posts
Community posts
Classified ads and comments (we have a marketplace here)

"Accordingly, the posts entered in the various main themes represent different '' values ​​'' in the aggregate, '' combined '' comments: Professional comments are complete, communities are 0.25 times weighted, and marketers are 0.1 times.

The formula is the following: combined = (1 * professional) + (0.25 * community) + (0.1 * market)

Example: Professional posts: 200 Community posts: 500 Post posts: 700 combined = 1 * 200 (professional) + 0.25 * 500 (community) + 0.1 * 700 (market) = 395 The registration time and the number of posts required to access the rank do not change, but only the combined post count."

This means more ranks more work, we have 12 ranks + VIP/Special ranks  there. + From a certain rank u can get custom Avatar.
Can be done right and with nice visuals. Its just my two cents, I know it is a simple forum.

Cheers!

[hilariousetc]

How about those people that's is deserving to be a Jr member even without merit. Is this can be possibly get ranked up and join bounty to earn money? Its true that there's a lot of people posting nonsense and doing shitpost in forum but how about those deserving ones. I think reviewing other post can be a helpful to be ranked up.

If you're deserving to be a Junior then you should have no issue in getting merit and that is what the entire system is there for in the first place. If you post crap then you will get nowhere and receive no merit but those who contribute and post something worthwhile will likely get the merit very quickly and rise through the ranks naturally over time and in line with activity. Alternatively, you can even bypass that by purchasing a Copper Membership which gives you the benefits of being a Member, but I'd just work on ranking up naturally by improving your contributions here.

[Rtalk]

How about those people that's is deserving to be a Jr member even without merit. Is this can be possibly get ranked up and join bounty to earn money? Its true that there's a lot of people posting nonsense and doing shitpost in forum but how about those deserving ones. I think reviewing other post can be a helpful to be ranked up.

To get something-you need to give something in return. In this case, we give nothing.We are parasites on the body of the forum, and enjoy its benefits.

[Golden.AxE]

How about those people that's is deserving to be a Jr member even without merit. Is this can be possibly get ranked up and join bounty to earn money? Its true that there's a lot of people posting nonsense and doing shitpost in forum but how about those deserving ones. I think reviewing other post can be a helpful to be ranked up.

If you're deserving to be a Junior then you should have no issue in getting merit and that is what the entire system is there for in the first place. If you post crap then you will get nowhere and receive no merit but those who contribute and post something worthwhile will likely get the merit very quickly and rise through the ranks naturally over time and in line with activity. Alternatively, you can even bypass that by purchasing a Copper Membership which gives you the benefits of being a Member, but I'd just work on ranking up naturally by improving your contributions here.

So this is democracy in business. Write and talk on any topic. It is clear that not all write well and pleasant things.
And it turns out that someone pressed the button and what was free - now you have to pay money, although not great, but if you take into account millions of users, the amount turns out good.
It turns out that because of the manipulation of a group of users such as I can not use the system and all its advantages.
I believe that the system should be as transparent as possible and clear.
....... now I look how to earn 1 merit.

[I Like Bitcoin]

It is very good that the number of sources of merit has increased.
By the way, usually, people say that in order to get merit, you need to write useful, quality posts. However, I noticed that many quality posts do not receive any merit, due to the fact that members of the forum have no merit, which they can give.

2nd that. But if you notice the post that is of good quality, you can bring it to attention so that merit source are able to credit them.

To draw the attention of sources of merit to a good post, where to can I write in this case?

It is very good that the number of sources of merit has increased.
By the way, usually, people say that in order to get merit, you need to write useful, quality posts. However, I noticed that many quality posts do not receive any merit, due to the fact that members of the forum have no merit, which they can give.

What would be the solution to quality posts receiving merits since there is a bit of subjectivity involved in determining what is a quality post?

I have seen some posters attempt to highlight quality posts by responding to them, and saying that they would merit the post, but that they do not have any merits, and sometimes that will inspire someone else to merit the post. 

It seems to me that sometimes you can quote a quality post, and you can point out what makes that post a quality post, which might not only cause the original post to receive a merit, but also might cause your recognition post to receive a merit (while you are contributing value to the forum).

By the way, I have sen some posts that are quite complicated and they quote others and they even provide links, but sometimes I feel way too busy to read the post in detail and disinclined to click on the enclosed links - any newer member could increase his/her likelihood of receiving merits by reading the post and links, quoting it, and summarizing what is great or not so great about the post.  Frequently members will find those kinds of discussions to be valuable and sometimes inspire members to spend some of their smerits.

In which thread of the forum should I quote better posts from my point of view? How to do it correctly? I really want to make a useful contribution to our forum.

[Taki]

It is very good that the number of sources of merit has increased.
By the way, usually, people say that in order to get merit, you need to write useful, quality posts. However, I noticed that many quality posts do not receive any merit, due to the fact that members of the forum have no merit, which they can give.

2nd that. But if you notice the post that is of good quality, you can bring it to attention so that merit source are able to credit them.

To draw the attention of sources of merit to a good post, where to can I write in this case?

It is very good that the number of sources of merit has increased.
By the way, usually, people say that in order to get merit, you need to write useful, quality posts. However, I noticed that many quality posts do not receive any merit, due to the fact that members of the forum have no merit, which they can give.

What would be the solution to quality posts receiving merits since there is a bit of subjectivity involved in determining what is a quality post?

I have seen some posters attempt to highlight quality posts by responding to them, and saying that they would merit the post, but that they do not have any merits, and sometimes that will inspire someone else to merit the post. 

It seems to me that sometimes you can quote a quality post, and you can point out what makes that post a quality post, which might not only cause the original post to receive a merit, but also might cause your recognition post to receive a merit (while you are contributing value to the forum).

By the way, I have sen some posts that are quite complicated and they quote others and they even provide links, but sometimes I feel way too busy to read the post in detail and disinclined to click on the enclosed links - any newer member could increase his/her likelihood of receiving merits by reading the post and links, quoting it, and summarizing what is great or not so great about the post.  Frequently members will find those kinds of discussions to be valuable and sometimes inspire members to spend some of their smerits.

In which thread of the forum should I quote better posts from my point of view? How to do it correctly? I really want to make a useful contribution to our forum.

There are such called merit sources to whom you may perform some of your posts that you count good enough. Although I saw months ago such suggestions from metit sources on Services board, but I didn't meet them long time ago. I do not know the current situation with those sources, but I have found the official info from older theymos post:

I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention.

So, you kinda will have to make an effort to find them.

[hilariousetc]

How about those people that's is deserving to be a Jr member even without merit. Is this can be possibly get ranked up and join bounty to earn money? Its true that there's a lot of people posting nonsense and doing shitpost in forum but how about those deserving ones. I think reviewing other post can be a helpful to be ranked up.

If you're deserving to be a Junior then you should have no issue in getting merit and that is what the entire system is there for in the first place. If you post crap then you will get nowhere and receive no merit but those who contribute and post something worthwhile will likely get the merit very quickly and rise through the ranks naturally over time and in line with activity. Alternatively, you can even bypass that by purchasing a Copper Membership which gives you the benefits of being a Member, but I'd just work on ranking up naturally by improving your contributions here.

So this is democracy in business. Write and talk on any topic. It is clear that not all write well and pleasant things.
And it turns out that someone pressed the button and what was free - now you have to pay money, although not great, but if you take into account millions of users, the amount turns out good.
It turns out that because of the manipulation of a group of users such as I can not use the system and all its advantages.
I believe that the system should be as transparent as possible and clear.
....... now I look how to earn 1 merit.

No, it's a necessary measure because people like you are greedy and lazy and abuse things to benefit themselves financially. When something is free people take advantage of it and sadly people are free to create as many accounts as they want here just to abuse sig campaigns and bounties by spamming. You are a perfect example of why the merit system exists and you've only got yourself to blame because of it. You aren't interested in contributing to discussions here, you just want to rise through the ranks to earn money in the laziest way possible and will even cheat to achieve this:

Hello, this is a promising coin with very ambitious plans,
readed the whitepaper and some of the plans are very ambitious considering the current government laws in the cannabis industry which is a grey area at this time.


Good luck

Hello, this is a promising coin with very ambitious plans,
readed the whitepaper and some of the plans are very ambitious considering the current government laws in the cannabis industry which is a grey area at this time.


Good luck with your project.

I'm sure this isn't your only account here so onto the next one you go.

[Mishnagan22]

No, it's a necessary measure because people like you are greedy and lazy and abuse things to benefit themselves financially. When something is free people take advantage of it and sadly people are free to create as many accounts as they want here just to abuse sig campaigns and bounties by spamming. You are a perfect example of why the merit system exists and you've only got yourself to blame because of it. You aren't interested in contributing to discussions here, you just want to rise through the ranks to earn money in the laziest way possible and will even cheat to achieve this:

I agree with you, but sometimes I get confused. At example, you wrote a great and quality post in detail, but it received no merit. At the same time, post below, where we write something like:" I fully agree with the opinion above, Bla Bla Bla, etc..." or any other set of words, repeating posts in the topic, only his/er own words, and this post get a merit, and me case it's a shame for my efforts.

[MagicSmoker]

Hello, this is a promising coin with very ambitious plans...

Hello, this is a promising coin with very ambitious plans...

I'm sure this isn't your only account here so onto the next one you go.

Yet another newly demoted noob wanders into meta to fish for metrits only to get nailed for plagiarism. Sweet, sweet justice.

[suchmoon]

To draw the attention of sources of merit to a good post, where to can I write in this case?

You need to post where you can contribute in a meaningful way. If you go looking for merit sources you're more likely to get in trouble than to get merits.

Also it's not just merit sources - there are thousands of other users who can send you merits.

[JayJuanGee]

It is very good that the number of sources of merit has increased.
By the way, usually, people say that in order to get merit, you need to write useful, quality posts. However, I noticed that many quality posts do not receive any merit, due to the fact that members of the forum have no merit, which they can give.

What would be the solution to quality posts receiving merits since there is a bit of subjectivity involved in determining what is a quality post?

I have seen some posters attempt to highlight quality posts by responding to them, and saying that they would merit the post, but that they do not have any merits, and sometimes that will inspire someone else to merit the post. 

It seems to me that sometimes you can quote a quality post, and you can point out what makes that post a quality post, which might not only cause the original post to receive a merit, but also might cause your recognition post to receive a merit (while you are contributing value to the forum).

By the way, I have sen some posts that are quite complicated and they quote others and they even provide links, but sometimes I feel way too busy to read the post in detail and disinclined to click on the enclosed links - any newer member could increase his/her likelihood of receiving merits by reading the post and links, quoting it, and summarizing what is great or not so great about the post.  Frequently members will find those kinds of discussions to be valuable and sometimes inspire members to spend some of their smerits.

In which thread of the forum should I quote better posts from my point of view? How to do it correctly? I really want to make a useful contribution to our forum.

You can participate in any thread that is of interest to you, and if you are interested in the topic, then you engage in the topic by reading the posts of others and providing substantive and meaningful input. 

No one should need to hold your hand and inform you about which threads interest you, and how you can make a contribution that will be appreciated by others.

It seems to me that if you are meaningfully participating and contributing observations based on your own experiences and opinions, beyond just begging for merits or seeking bounties, then members will recognize your contribution and merit your posts.

Of course, if you just post crap, then you have to figure out ways to improve because no one is going to merit your posts (or at least it is not as likely to receive merit).

It also seems to me that a lot of members recognize that earning merit can take time, and when you are new it could take some time to earn a few merits and gain a bit of a reputation, but certainly earning merits is not an impossible task, even for newbies, and there are plenty of examples of such and examples of good posts and good posters who receive merits (and can be emulated).

[nutildah]

Dealing with legends, I'm more and more convinced that this is just a forum for you.

Wrong. Anybody can join the forum, and they do. 400+ signups every single day. Anybody can say anything at any time, so long as its their own words they are using.

You should already understand that the forum has become a center for making money.

Well bitcoin is digital money, its always been about making money. For the people who thought they could make a living by shitposting here, they've been proven wrong.

and merits began to sell.

Almost every merit seller is being caught and red tagged.

If the administration did not want this, then it would prohibit the execution of the signature on the forum. this would immediately solve all the issues. but this does not happen.

I actually think this should happen. I wouldn't mind the least bit if signatures disappeared tomorrow. Stopping Newbies from wearing sigs is the next best compromise.

So old users should stop thanking the administration for cleaning up the forum.

Why? The new system is clearly working and frankly its provided a great deal of not only entertainment but insight into how much of a problem bounty hunters have created by infesting the forum. Its hard to find legitimate or interesting info any more because all the boards have been flooded with shitposters trying to meet criteria for their stupid bounties. Like I said, short of removing sigs altogether, this is the next best compromise.

Once again I ask you and other old residents to read my topic "THEME FOR THEYMOS" and try to understand the current situation

We already understand it. Its not to your benefit. Its for the benefit of people who have come here to learn.

[Crypto Girl]

I agree with you, but sometimes I get confused. At example, you wrote a great and quality post in detail, but it received no merit. At the same time, post below, where we write something like:" I fully agree with the opinion above, Bla Bla Bla, etc..." or any other set of words, repeating posts in the topic, only his/er own words, and this post get a merit and me case it's a shame for my efforts.

Can you quote what post you've been talking about? I saw that you posted mostly on your local board and that isn't prohibited however it's rarely merited. Maybe you made an effort to create a post written in english but this doesn't mean that it can be merited. On a contrary, it looks like spam and shitpost so it doesn't deserve any.

Sometimes short and straight forward posts are enough as long as its make sense.

Don't push to hard to earn merit, it will just look like a rubbish.

[hilariousetc]

If the administration did not want this, then it would prohibit the execution of the signature on the forum. this would immediately solve all the issues. but this does not happen.

I actually think this should happen. I wouldn't mind the least bit if signatures disappeared tomorrow. Stopping Newbies from wearing sigs is the next best compromise.

Wouldn't be against it either, but the sad thing is all those who have caused the issue in the first place would instantly disappear like a fart in a breeze if signatures were ever removed and they will have ruined it for everybody else in the process. I think a much better solution would be to keep requiring more and more merit before you can earn via signatures here. One merit is a joke really. You can get that by accident and one merit doesn't qualify them to be able to earn via posting especially when a solitary merit can easily be obtained in numerous shady ways. Lets see how they deal with trying to get ten merit. That would make it ten times harder to abuse or get around. I think that would significantly improve the situation here and it's still not very hard to achieve for a half decent poster. The next step after that should be 100 merits. Then you would only be able to earn after you have contributed a lot and proven your worth here. If that didn't work then we could even go extreme and remove all signatures completely until you have a ridiculous amount of merit like 500-1000 or something and then only the best contributors could earn by posting and then we really would see a change in the quality of content here.

So old users should stop thanking the administration for cleaning up the forum.

Why? The new system is clearly working and frankly its provided a great deal of not only entertainment but insight into how much of a problem bounty hunters have created by infesting the forum. Its hard to find legitimate or interesting info any more because all the boards have been flooded with shitposters trying to meet criteria for their stupid bounties. Like I said, short of removing sigs altogether, this is the next best compromise.

It works in a tiny capacity at stopping certain people and abuses but doesn't stop others from abusing it in any way they can, and one merit really isn't enough. Read this thread from yesterday to see how one user was dishing out merits like candy to copy and pasters which most seemed to be alts or related in some capacity: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5037225.msg46135292#msg46135292

Lets see how effective his merit sharing would be when each of his accounts need 10 or 100 or 1000 merits instead of just the one.