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October 01, 2018, 08:10:27 PM
Last edit: October 01, 2018, 08:53:41 PM by Coolcryptovator
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There is no doubts that merit system working fine. Especially for spam prevention & motivate peoples for write high quality post. I have realized that few members trying to write good & quality post after implement Enhanced newbie restrictions & requirements. Although few corrupted members are abusing the system, but I want to say overall we got a good result from merit system.

I would like to share few concern about merit system, perhaps it could helps merit system to build more decent & fair (IMO). Although few of them are discussed previously, I just want to remind with short description.

Merit limit per post:
On current merit system, a member can send maximum 50 merit to single user monthly. It's fine, but on current system there is no send limit per post. Anyone can send 50 merit only single post. This is the good opportunity for merit abuser. Although a decent post could deserve more than 50 merit but I think it should not be from single person. Multiple member could send merit on single thread. Really I think it's too high amount from single user for a post. In my opinion, merit limit should be decrease for single post from a person. Perhaps maximum 25 per post will be fine. It's just my idea, admin can adjust on his own opinion. But I strongly believe there should be merit limit per post. So merit abuse can be reduce & merit distribution will more wide.

Although abuser can abuse by send merit on other post, but it can be identify simply that they are abusing merit. I have experience some one send 20  merit by 2 times (10x2) on bounty thread and someone open thread on reputation. That post really never deserve 20 merit. But they make excuse that "I just want send 10 merit but by mistake I send 20 merit. During sending time I refresh the page". If implement merit limit on per post than abuser will never able to make this kind of excuse.

Just for example, a post are merited with 50 merit;
Grin你不疯的话川普肯定疯!
Google translation: "If you are not crazy, Trump must be crazy"
Do you think this post really deserve 50 merit ? Sender are not deserve red tag? That's the reason I expect merit limit per post.

Note: I do not mean limit for merit receiver. Receiver can receive unlimited from specific user on single post.


Disable merit option on Announcements (Altcoins) & Bounty board:
Before start discussion I would like to give an example, a post received 50 merit on ANN reply:
Still some people seems dont understand this is scam  Undecided

Do you agree that post deserve 50 merit especially on ANN relpy? I am not agree that ANN and Bounty post are deserve 50 merit. Especially on bounty thread couldn't count as high quality post (IMO). So spending high merit such as board really abuse of merit. Disable merit option from this two board will prevent merit abuse. You can see more this kind of abuse here


Allow DT to handle merit abuser:
As far as I know, admin isn't much encourage to leave negative feedback to merit abuser. But in my opinion admin should allow DT to handle merit abuser by trust system since merit are not moderate by forum. I believe DT are experienced to determine who is the real merit abuser. That's why they are Default Trusted position. Lot of merit abuser accusation on reputation board. But very low abuser got tagged. For example here is multiple merit abuser , but no yet tagged for merit abuse. Even a newbie will consider that is a merit abuse.


Additional badge & feature for higher merit earner :
On current system 1000 merits enough for become a Legendary member. And it's look fine for me. But here is few good contributor earned more than 2000 merits. Just for example; LoyceV is the one of good contributor and he has earned more than 2000 1000 merit and 1000 merit got  by initial. As well as there is no higher rank more than Legendary. Obviously forum need such as contributor. For appreciation, there should be additional badge and few extra feature who have earned more than 2000 merits & more than 4000 merits. Like signature, avatar, clickable personal text etc. On addition, additional title will be more appreciated, like now anyone can buy Copper membership. In my opinion there should few additional membership for higher merit earner. So that they will more encourage to contribute good things. Personally I think Gold & Diamond membership will appropriate.
Example:
2000 merit= Gold Member
4000 merit= Diamond member
It's only my opinion, may be admin could consider others similar title.


I apologize if someone not agree with that and sorry for my broken English. You can discuss if you have any good idea for improve merit system.
  

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October 01, 2018, 08:40:48 PM
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During September 2018, cases of a single post being merited by a single user with > 20 sMerits are:
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msg	              user_from	user_to	nMerit	nTx
1646578.msg16571147 909166 909195 50 1
1662332.msg16689521 909254 907810 50 1
1675162.msg16883383 905883 907810 50 1
1687429.msg16944193 790823 909166 50 1
1687429.msg16944193 807879 909166 50 1
2298450.msg45616061 114035 2362459 50 1
3441428.msg45435882 823298 1000291 50 1
4401598.msg39207985 390080 1518903 50 1
4416559.msg39345211 224248 2172196 50 1
4442773.msg40135075 324489 1312406 50 1
4788352.msg43211608 497151 1825672 50 1
4931157.msg44431066 176942 2356585 50 1
4980960.msg44928914 349090 2371316 50 1
5030532.msg45556278 114035 947017 50 1
5029045.msg45697086 190521 901208 49 1
1530556.msg15530521 901208 874440 45 4
452810.msg45013385 234498 206960 43 1
5.msg28 112208 3 43 1
1290358.msg13256302 17501 689558 42 2
1044356.msg11253772 202602 262958 40 2
5033750.msg46090880 339362 950218 40 1
3308625.msg45848676 557538 2027058 36 1
1326803.msg13542056 350538 511977 34 1
1608859.msg22721722 901208 190521 32 1
2827596.msg45584881 72795 864005 30 1
3267044.msg43383779 84835 2207299 30 1
5011955.msg27858941 369702 561575 30 1
5011997.msg40924055 371542 561580 30 1
4940000.msg44552466 202602 627973 30 1
4901613.msg46041840 202602 1539137 30 1
5035436.msg46045817 849998 950218 29 1
1789926.msg44907750 874440 901208 28 4
1819322.msg44884513 966561 1189487 26 1
1846004.msg44895247 1000291 823298 25 1
178336.msg46170320 554 87930 25 1
5025027.msg45331532 949455 891152 25 1
5030895.msg45830402 98986 397737 25 1
1789926.msg27249424 289735 901208 23 5
2243703.msg22657885 17501 1190265 22 2
2178052.msg29206489 895125 909195 21 1
452810.msg45271443 206960 234498 21 1
Fishy or not, the number of cases seems small for adding a rule of a per thread+sender basis.

In terms of badges, the cases you mention are rather rare and scarce yet. Airdropped Merit and awarded merit could be added together or not towards them. It would be a small perk, but take away the top 100 sMerited people, and the playing field is on another level really for the vast majority.
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October 01, 2018, 08:42:59 PM
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My suggestion is that we need to stop meriting the bounty threads for example :[OPEN] ⚡BQT Signature Campaign | Member - Hero | 0.0007 BTC /Post ⚡ this thread's first post got 9 merits and inbetween useless posts got lot of merits,so disable merits in those section as well.
Just for example; LoyceV is the one of good contributor and he has earned more than 2000 merit.

BTW he didn't earn 2000 merits,he just earned more than 1000 merits since he already got 1000  airdropped merits when the merit system implemented,but there is no doubt that he will earn 2000 merits as well in near future. Grin

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October 01, 2018, 09:02:44 PM
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Whole fucking nest of newbies ranking eachother up to 100 merits..

msg                 user_from   user_to   nMerit   nTx
1646578.msg16571147   909166   909195   50   1
1662332.msg16689521   909254   907810   50   1
1675162.msg16883383   905883   907810   50   1
1687429.msg16944193   790823   909166   50   1
1687429.msg16944193   807879   909166   50   1

How close the UIDs are caught my eye and the rest is obvious..

I don't have a paintbrush so yall take it from there and do what you do or don't..

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