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September 22, 2018, 05:01:05 AM
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Well that was quick! Have you manage to retrieve already all the user profiles for all TXs right up to this morning in order to do this ?

Yes, I prepared the analysis in advance. I created this thread as soon as the new dump of merit transactions has been published.



Also, I'm not sure why their are only 53 on the top 200 list..

Now there are 200 members in the list. Smiley



Good job, you marked already the known or safe givers as well i see, so it will make it easier to run some check on these.  Smiley

I wrote the merit sources known to me in bold, now I just marked the red tagged members in italic.

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September 22, 2018, 07:49:39 AM
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Cool info! Interesting how 150-200 have all pretty much provided two merit to newbies, which shows there isn't that many people sharing the love for newbies out there (or there are alot of trash newbie accounts and no one wants to give them merit!)

I generally lurk more than post, but these 'rule changes' that, from what I can tell, are meant to prevent spamming, seem to be getting everyone super annoyed. Like your level/rank makes any difference to posting or reading this forum?!
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Cool info! Interesting how 150-200 have all pretty much provided two merit to newbies, which shows there isn't that many people sharing the love for newbies out there (or there are alot of trash newbie accounts and no one wants to give them merit!)


There is a lot of love for quality new members. It's the spambies that are the ones that the rules are intended to control. I suspect a lot of the 150-200 are spambies promoted by their alts and sponsors. I think the good news is that the new rules highlight these members and their puppet masters. If there are too many, then the next stage will have to be sig removal for juniors.

I've added a photography section to Fit to Talk -  The photography and content production board

Hopefully we can use this to help members earn from using budget photo kit whilst they practice their English
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On September 17, 2018, the new enhanced restrictions and requirements for newbies have been introduced on the BitcoinTalk forum. In particular, nowadays Newbie must have sufficient activity and earn at least one merit for ranking up to Jr. Member. A lot of meritless users were demoted to Newbies, and now they want to receive one merit for restoring their rank.

Maybe it can be arranged like this a little so that it looks good and knows the Red Trust and Trust

It is predictable that the merit traders and account farmers immediately became active, and they started distributing per one merit for clearly garbage messages or reports. However, everybody knows that each merit should be given only for a useful post.

Therefore I decided to create TOP-200 of the members who support decent newbies which make useful posts and contribute to the forum development. Of course, the list likely contains merit traders and account farmers, but I suppose that most of these members give merits to newbies well-deservedly.


The table below shows the user name, his current rank and the quantity of newbies who were supported by this member since the new rules have been introduced on the forum. I will write the known merit sources in bold, the currently reg tagged members will be marked in italic.



Members who support newbies (9/17/2018 - 9/21/2018)

[User name / Red trust]   Current rank [1]   Quantity of newbies who received merit
1)dumbtool45Senior Member59 newbies
2)nick777Hero Member48 newbies
3)zanzibarHero Member45 newbies
4)foserfoxLegendary44 newbies
5)VinylriffMember21 newbies
6)lin0sspiceLegendary13 newbies
7)SlarkLegendary11 newbies
8}HasHeHero Member9 newbies
9)cacucacok91Hero Member6 newbies
10)Mysterious01Full Member5 newbies
11)PrettymieFull Member4 newbies
12)daihaxeniaFull Member3 newbies
13)Maryshka91Senior Member3 newbies
14)james90Member3 newbies
15)Sahabat_Full Member3 newbies
16)dakilangisajajaMember3 newbies
17)kpcianHero Member3 newbies
18)mohammadzayadiMember3 newbies
19)gorasetLegendary3 newbies
20)sesedamaFull Member3 newbies
21)WelckomtomeFull Member2 newbies
22)NagasakiFull Member2 newbies
23)dindadidaFull Member2 newbies
24)zaenanniFull Member2 newbies
25)MOSSADSenior Member2 newbies
26)Kazi SajibFull Member2 newbies
27)FeelTheBeatHero Member2 newbies
28)huanzhong644306Jr. Member2 newbies
29)BougenvilFull Member2 newbies
30)RoooooRLegendary2 newbies
31)Aleister CrowleyHero Member2 newbies



Members who support newbies (9/17/2018 - 9/21/2018)

[User name / Trust]   Current rank [1]   Quantity of newbies who received merit
1)OgNastyLegendary40 newbies
2)unamis76Legendary29 newbies
3)qwkLegendary28 newbies
4)paxmaoSenior Member18 newbies
5)krogothmanhattanHero Member15 newbies
6)eddie13Hero Member5 newbies
7)The PharmacistLegendary5 newbies
8}philipma1957Legendary5 newbies
9)PerrigeniMember4 newbies
10)LoyceVLegendary3 newbies



Members who support newbies (9/17/2018 - 9/21/2018)

[User name / trust]   Current rank [1]   Quantity of newbies who received merit
1)bones261Legendary18 newbies
3)radnomSenior Member13 newbies
4)HalabMember12 newbies
5)mole0815Senior Member11 newbies
6)dbshckLegendary10 newbies
7)NILIcoinHero Member9 newbies
8}nkampalaMember8 newbies
9)teramitLegendary8 newbies
10)pavan@hosurSenior Member7 newbies
11)babicena14Full Member7 newbies
12)yo-blinLegendary7 newbies
13)hugeblackSenior Member7 newbies
14)MolochHero Member6 newbies
15)cryptolord2077Full Member6 newbies
16)jjoshuaFull Member6 newbies
17)BadgerregdaBFull Member6 newbies
18)markiz73Hero Member6 newbies
19)PavelRostovFull Member6 newbies
20)amorfuseMember5 newbies
21)BynanellerMember5 newbies
22)KuflamaMember5 newbies
23)AsurmenHero Member5 newbies
24)Divere1996Member5 newbies
25)CapradinaHero Member5 newbies
26)Antiplus999Member5 newbies
27)PartissonMember5 newbies
28)DdmrDdmrHero Member5 newbies
29)DorbaracoMember5 newbies
30)xtraelvHero Member5 newbies
31)MrVuuuFull Member5 newbies
32)MagicSmokerFull Member5 newbies
33)kryptqnickLegendary5 newbies
34)Flying HellfishLegendary5 newbies
35)TimeTellerHero Member5 newbies
36)TheICE007Full Member4 newbies
37)nityansMember4 newbies
38)CorrelllMember4 newbies
39)M.S.IMember4 newbies
40)BTCGirlSenior Member4 newbies
41)XsinxSenior Member4 newbies
42)saberflomeMember4 newbies
43)lowbander80Legendary4 newbies
44)etkisizelemanMember4 newbies
45)DentItMember4 newbies
46)heritage35Member4 newbies
47)DelphinusFull Member4 newbies
48)MetalEngineLegendary4 newbies
49)DarkStar_Legendary4 newbies
50)ongahawakSenior Member3 newbies
51)kursunkalemJr. Member3 newbies
52)luckybit1Full Member3 newbies
53)jackflagSenior Member3 newbies
54)criptocashJr. Member3 newbies
55)KremonFull Member3 newbies
56)gospodinMember3 newbies
57)daladno12Member3 newbies
58)AdenthoveMember3 newbies
59)gerjissMember3 newbies
60)rogovihMember3 newbies
61)cerberus5424Member3 newbies
62)SkroojeeMember3 newbies
63)solkinsolaliMember3 newbies
64)RostockMember3 newbies
65)bryle10Full Member3 newbies
66)Esra92Member3 newbies
67)EmilypMember3 newbies
68)ACPHero Member3 newbies
69)Dim4ikSenior Member3 newbies
70)Turbo-SFull Member3 newbies
71)CryptoToxicAvengerFull Member3 newbies
72)BonTonPleaseSenior Member3 newbies
73)goku1525Member3 newbies
74)durudaraMember3 newbies
75)kaysersozeeFull Member3 newbies
76)StephKramMember3 newbies
77)adiebitslerHero Member3 newbies
78)StradivarioosMember3 newbies
79)posianduFull Member3 newbies
80)engrlodiMember3 newbies
81)Yury1Senior Member3 newbies
82)pandukelana2712Senior Member3 newbies
83)ParedaoLegendary3 newbies
84)HappyCaptainFull Member2 newbies
85)RB25Hero Member2 newbies
86)PROdotBITCOINFull Member2 newbies
87)agenlaptopFull Member2 newbies
88)tiang_towerFull Member2 newbies
89)bms2013Legendary2 newbies
90)Danica22Full Member2 newbies
91)donn2012Full Member2 newbies
92)maranello1561Full Member2 newbies
93)RaidalFull Member2 newbies
94)CianixMember2 newbies
95)leatutzFull Member2 newbies
96)manfredmannJr. Member2 newbies
97)artem30011994Member2 newbies
98)huxdyFull Member2 newbies
99)erikoyMember2 newbies
100)nelson4lovSenior Member2 newbies
101)meysonYoMember2 newbies
102)chillcottFull Member2 newbies
103)EnataramelJr. Member2 newbies
104)HalinselyJr. Member2 newbies
105)UltraPlaySenior Member2 newbies
106)umbara ardianSenior Member2 newbies
107)Affilate UserSenior Member2 newbies
108)kelaxo76rJr. Member2 newbies
109)nerttorJr. Member2 newbies
110)gbtroll99Member2 newbies
111)popoxJr. Member2 newbies
112)MaamejaneMember2 newbies
113)KLoUN287Jr. Member2 newbies
114)BelmylJr. Member2 newbies
115)ExFrozzeJr. Member2 newbies
116)Benjamin2503Member2 newbies
117)aderidwan98Member2 newbies
118)ChrindayJr. Member2 newbies
119)teradontJr. Member2 newbies
120)RenatMironovJr. Member2 newbies
121)CojiroMember2 newbies
122)SingbatakFull Member2 newbies
123)twocowMember2 newbies
124)cryptoking33Jr. Member2 newbies
125)camric09Member2 newbies
126)nicolebtccryptoMember2 newbies
127)mitsarasssSenior Member2 newbies
128)bitalk3Jr. Member2 newbies
129)travwillSenior Member2 newbies
130)ElegantCyFull Member2 newbies
131)putriangelMember2 newbies
132)@boutiuqeSenior Member2 newbies
133)zoonosisMember2 newbies
134)Ca$hmakerJr. Member2 newbies
135)PentingMember2 newbies
136)olamideyFull Member2 newbies
137)electrobitMember2 newbies
138)edundayoMember2 newbies
139)joker989898Member2 newbies
140)Potato18Member2 newbies
141)kaltarSenior Member2 newbies
142)Ri PolokJr. Member2 newbies
143)arun9900Full Member2 newbies
144)w0lverineJr. Member2 newbies
145)malcovixeffectSenior Member2 newbies
146)safarabelaJr. Member2 newbies
147)septi.JRSenior Member2 newbies
148)maculethMember2 newbies
149)COCOMARTINJr. Member2 newbies
150)GyromancerMember2 newbies
151)JjunpatMember2 newbies
152)OlatunjexFull Member2 newbies
153)macit800Member2 newbies
154)ribowo76Full Member2 newbies
155)marcbitcoinsFull Member2 newbies
156)DanroseJr. Member2 newbies
157)sergio redFull Member2 newbies
158)esmanthraSenior Member2 newbies
159)ekillerHero Member2 newbies
160)AivaryamalFull Member2 newbies

Total supported: 1637 newbies

[1] - the rank that is based on the amount of merits regardless of the current activity



I remind, please do not beg merits from other members, otherwise you can be red tagged.

This post will be updated weekly.

I will publish monthly statistics.
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September 22, 2018, 10:19:12 AM
Last edit: September 22, 2018, 11:12:25 AM by MagicSmoker
Merited by LoyceV (1)
 #45

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"Hasn't Allah made various ways for me to give charity? ...even on one's genitals there are alms from servants. "
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Hmm... Allah wants servants to give alms to their master's genitals? Sign me up!


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Members who support newbies (9/17/2018 - 9/21/2018)

[User name / Red trust]   Current rank [1]   Quantity of newbies who received merit
1)dumbtool45Senior Member59 newbies
2)nick777Hero Member48 newbies



Members who support newbies (9/17/2018 - 9/21/2018)

[User name / Trust]   Current rank [1]   Quantity of newbies who received merit
1)OgNastyLegendary40 newbies
2)unamis76Legendary29 newbies



Members who support newbies (9/17/2018 - 9/21/2018)

[User name / trust]   Current rank [1]   Quantity of newbies who received merit
10)bones261Legendary18 newbies
13)radnomSenior Member13 newbies
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Maybe it can be arranged like this a little so that it looks good and knows the Red Trust and Trust.

Please note the changes I made to your quoting to make your post more readable and less of a wall of text; you did not need to quote the entire list made by Coin-1 to illustrate the use of colored text to denote untrusted/trusted/neutral feedback. Also, don't use colored text for your reply as it almost always makes it less easy to read and greatly annoys some members (Jet Cash, in particular, is not fond of changing text color or size in a garish attempt to stand out - and many agree with him, including me).

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Please note the changes I made to your quoting to make your post more readable and less of a wall of text; you did not need to quote the entire list made by Coin-1 to illustrate the use of colored text to denote untrusted/trusted/neutral feedback. Also, don't use colored text for your reply as it almost always makes it less easy to read and greatly annoys some members (Jet Cash, in particular, is not fond of changing text color or size in a garish attempt to stand out - and many agree with him, including me).

Thanks for the advice?

Isn't this interesting to be seen as the original?

Except for color blind people who don't like color, From 100, maybe in  only 1 is color blind.

Thank you again for the advice of a good posting procedure.

I like beauty?

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September 22, 2018, 11:43:09 AM
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I thought I would have "supported" more Newbies than just 3, but indeed, after checking my merit history, this is correct. It is much easier to Merit higher ranks than finding the rare good Newbie posts.

The past red trust, the change of merit awarding behaviour shortly after new restrictions and the timing of merit awarding with 20 sec intervals is enough factors for me to think that it is farming after all.
Please let's not use timing as a criterion for abuse. I often open a bunch of +Merit in tabs and then just submit them all and I'm sure I'm not alone doing that.
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September 22, 2018, 07:17:51 PM
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So, 1637 promotions in less than a week, huh? Aren't we, as a community, becoming too generous, too soon? I mean, the changes are still too new, but the promotions are going in a very high speed. The people, that have never even thought about the concept (Merit system) itself, are being promoted right after the demotions only because they have started to "show" they care about it all, while they don't from the inside (at least most of them don't). And I'm not only talking about the ones who are farmers and are promoting their own accounts, but some other accounts are also getting into the crowd by such actions, which is not good for the community.

Maybe we should wait for some time before starting to do all this. Even if we see a new user posting something decent, we should take our time in taking the responsibility of promoting them to the next tier where they might start abusing the system again.


P.S: I don't intend to hurt anyone's feelings by saying any of this. My statements are general, and are not against any single user. Anyone reading this should not take any of it personally, please.

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September 22, 2018, 08:05:46 PM
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Thankyou for the list, I can see many abusers here, it will a long work to report them all, also if you can update those data next week with next datas! It will be very fast way to find them out!

I've already found 2 abusers with this list, I will post the accusation later.

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Please let's not use timing as a criterion for abuse. I often open a bunch of +Merit in tabs and then just submit them all and I'm sure I'm not alone doing that.

Agreed, the timing alone is not a solid criteria for abusers.



There is a lot of love for quality new members. It's the spambies that are the ones that the rules are intended to control. I suspect a lot of the 150-200 are spambies promoted by their alts and sponsors. I think the good news is that the new rules highlight these members and their puppet masters. If there are too many, then the next stage will have to be sig removal for juniors.


It seems that puppet masters are rushing to regain control of their puppet army after new rules and this most likely will be their downfall in anycase Wink



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Nice to read something positive in meta section here. Otherwise , it is usually filled with posts against merit system (these days against the recent change regarding jr member) .

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September 23, 2018, 11:29:10 AM
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So, 1637 promotions in less than a week, huh? Aren't we, as a community, becoming too generous, too soon?
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For sure some are being too generous and/or naive. I purposefully went back to threads I have been following a long time and singled out some of the contributors there, rather than award most of my sMerits to newbies that showed up in meta to "praise" the new changes by "thermos."

Furthermore, I wrote a thread within a few hours of theymos' instituting the new merit requirements for jr. members that warned people to check the post history of any newbies before awarding them a merit to make sure they weren't (re-)enabling their ability to shitpost for sig campaigns, which is basically what you are saying here (so I naturally agree with you).

That particular cat is out of the bag at this point, though... Now I suppose we will just have to wait a month or two or six to see if the new merit requirement is actually effective at reducing spam megathreads.
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September 23, 2018, 11:36:12 AM
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So, 1637 promotions in less than a week, huh? Aren't we, as a community, becoming too generous, too soon?
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For sure some are being too generous and/or naive. 


Looks like some of these merited newbie got their merits from red trusted people, so as a result of some "private arrangement".
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Some of the ranks are not quite correct for some of the members. For instance  - I ain't no Hero.  Grin


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I think that was a good decision for some high ranking member to show compassion to those who really deserve to acquire even for 1 merit. Though, the rules are rules and we need to follow it as this has it's purpose that could change and improve the forum to be more free from spammers. I believe that by continuing the effort in contributing good informative post could harvest a merit reward unexpectedly. Just keep in doing what you believe in, for there will be time for you to be rewarded with your hardwork.
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Some of the ranks are not quite correct for some of the members. For instance  - I ain't no Hero.  Grin



Because..

- the rank that is based on the amount of merits regardless of the current activity

And you have hero merits..

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I think that was a good decision for some high ranking member to show compassion to those who really deserve to acquire even for 1 merit. <…>
Compassion should not be part of the equation. Merit is not awarded on a compassion basis, but rather on the post’s content and, increasingly so (and even more now days), the poster’s posting history track. The main problem may reside in finding those to merit, and not being put-off in the process by those other posts that make your eyes sour. That is probably the main challenge of the non-merited with decent posts on their back: being spotted among all the large amount of non-contributive posts.

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There is a lot of love for quality new members. It's the spambies that are the ones that the rules are intended to control. I suspect a lot of the 150-200 are spambies promoted by their alts and sponsors. I think the good news is that the new rules highlight these members and their puppet masters. If there are too many, then the next stage will have to be sig removal for juniors.

The site needs quality posts because it is really needed for a better advertising of products and or projects. And so many are just spamming and giving off merits to their alts just to rank it up. I think this system could probably go up in time where juniors will really be stripped off of their signature. And certainly this will help clean the system of newbies and juniors who are not really making good post. I think it will be good to see higher ranking forum member's posts in the site so that they can act as a good example.

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There is a lot of love for quality new members. It's the spambies that are the ones that the rules are intended to control. I suspect a lot of the 150-200 are spambies promoted by their alts and sponsors. I think the good news is that the new rules highlight these members and their puppet masters. If there are too many, then the next stage will have to be sig removal for juniors.

The site needs quality posts because it is really needed for a better advertising of products and or projects. And so many are just spamming and giving off merits to their alts just to rank it up. I think this system could probably go up in time where juniors will really be stripped off of their signature. And certainly this will help clean the system of newbies and juniors who are not really making good post. I think it will be good to see higher ranking forum member's posts in the site so that they can act as a good example.

Nay. To keep making the forum stricter is a good idea. The system of the forum already handled that. It takes a lot to become a member. The ad already appropriated rewards to users depending on their ranks. That’s enough. If you want more rewards you do more.
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My post on the first page has been updated. There are new members in the list. As I can see, 717 newbies received merit this week. Total supported 2354 newbies. Thanks! Smiley

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