CHANGELLY - Illegal exchanger from RUSSIA with FAKE team

[JollyGood]

Hey! Need to clarify once again. The issue was NOT related directly to Changelly. As you may see, topic starter had no issues with our service. Exchange was happened via pretty other service. ChangeNOW use our API for some trading pairs, that's right. But for BCH-BTC pair ChangeNow don't use our API, most probably they have their own trading engine or something else, we don't know. User had the deal with ChangeNow, accepted their terms of use before deposit. Transaction was blocked by ChangeNOW due to KYC/AML policy violation with fake documents. Changelly have no access to that funds. Unfortunately we can't help. Please, contact ChangeNOW directly to complete legal investigation.

Pathetic scammers you have been caught out thanks to the excellent provided by the OP.

Yes it WAS directly related to you even though the fraud did not take place on Changelly website but you scamming thieves are part of the same criminal group operated by the same scammers: Changelly, Changenow, Evercode and Atomic Swaps are part of the same group of multi-alias fraudsters and scammers.

These scammers must be boycotted to save users from outright theft and selective scamming.

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[s1lverbox]

If changelly gave u whitelisted account and change now is the same gang, than I don't see the reason why they should hold your coins untill you goes through kyc with them.

As you can see, they do not deny it. If they deny, then I will give theymos or another authoritative user a login/password from my email and he will confirm our correspondence and transactions.
I sent PM to you (not with login/pass  )

We can clearly see that all your alegation seems clear/founded and some of posts provided by changelly/changenow/atomic swaps confirming it.

I just wonder how they will move forward knowing there are some eyes on them. How long before their business will go bust because of this allegation.

Pm sent back to you.

[green547]

Looks like a lot of these scams are coming out of Russia.  The scam advertisement led me here.

There has been a lot of selective scamming going around on exchanges and gambling websites.  Everything looks fine until you have a large balance.  Its funny they had  no problems taking coins without a KYC but once you want a withdrawl they want a background check.  how about requiring KYC upfront if you are going to request it down the road.

[JollyGood]

Looks like a lot of these scams are coming out of Russia.  The scam advertisement led me here.

There has been a lot of selective scamming going around on exchanges and gambling websites.  Everything looks fine until you have a large balance.  Its funny they had  no problems taking coins without a KYC but once you want a withdrawl they want a background check.  how about requiring KYC upfront if you are going to request it down the road.

Apparently Changelly claimed in an earlier post their system will inform the user that the amount requested to be exchanged has triggered a KYC requirement and would seek confirmation if the user wants to proceed.

According to Changelly the Changenow website does not do that even though it runs the Changelly API

Having said that Changenow and Changelly along with Atomic Swaps are the same people using different aliases to scam.

I cannot agree with you about the number of scams coming out of Russia more or less than anywhere else but the above 3 are part of the Russia link in this scam according to the excellent investigative work carried out by the OP.

There are plenty of scammers out there that allow you to deposit funds but pull the KYC trick when you try to withdraw (exchanges, gambling websites,etc) but most selective scam, which is what these thieves did to the OP. 110 BCH is a lot of money so if you want an exchange avoid these scammers.

[Vizefog]

So guys, I decided to follow ni23457 to clarify.

I spat on the rules written by some anonymous guys.

You contradict yourself. They are not anonymous, if you believe the information that you found. They are not hiding, they are real people, maybe from Russia, I do not know. But what do we know about you? Nothing, just a stream of accusations.

Do you spit on the rules? Well, then you have no reason to blame someone for your problem. You yourself created it, spitting on the rules, sending a fake twice !! It is important!!! For example, I do not like to drive at 30 m/h, as indicated by the sign. Ok, I'll drive 70 m/h, and when a policeman stops me, I'll spit in his face! I clearly explained?

By the way, why don't you go to these guys, because you say that you know where they are. Oh, Mr. Shadow is scared !!! He wants to be anonymous, that is the reason for sending a fake twice.

P.S. I don't like KYC, it's fucking shit that is imposed on us by the actions of such idiots as ni23457. After the BTC became more convenient for criminals to launder dirty money, it became necessary to do this. And the more cases like this, then faster the mandatory KYC will be introduced on all exchanges.

[ni23457]

You are a cheap whore already got an answer, but you don’t need it because you are a whore. You are here to repeat the same questions and get a penny for it.

But what do we know about you? Nothing, just a stream of accusations.

WE? I see only one whore who want to know who I am and this whore is you  

Do you spit on the rules?

You cannot demand anything from me. You are just a bunch of Russian guys who bought a cheap company in offshore garbage dump (650 USD). So you are nobody and I spit on you and sent what was near at hand. [Just because I like to spit on brazen assholes and humiliate them ]  What is not clear to you idiot? Your function was to change my money and kiss my ass for the left commission. But you confused your weight in the country and started to clash with me. It will cost too much for you.

Ok, I'll drive 70 m/h, and when a policeman stops me

Policeman?? You are fucking bunch from Russia which stole my money 3 months ago and do not refund it.
You lied all these months that you are afraid of simply returning money just because you are afraid of problems with Europol. But as soon as it became known, you just disappeared from the forum, pathetic scammers.

At the same time, I was a customer of Changelly[actually parent of ChangeNOW, as it became known later] and have whitelisted account there and exchanged hundreds of bitcoins in recent months without any kind of KYC. (it's funny but they gave me whitelisted account after ChangeNOW's scam!) The fact is that I have 5-year-old crystal clear coins, so it never aroused suspicion from anyone.

[Vizefog]

WE? I see only one whore who want to know who I am and this whore is you  

Yes, it is, I am truly the only one here who does not understand you. First, you spit on rules that you didn’t even read, send fake, and then you blame someone for being born an idiot. I can never understand it because there is no logic in it.

And again you accuse me of being part of the exchange. You're an idiot! If I really were such, then I would not have written from this newbie account, having bought myself something better, for convincing. But your brain, like the shit of a fly, is unable to understand this. You're paranoid, man.

Besides, you claim that these guys are from Russia, accusing them of being illegal. As far as I know, the status of cryptocurrency in Russia is not defined, that is, it is not known when their use should be considered a crime. That funny photo with masked people, Mr. Clown, refers to the case when several guys laundered money with BTC (your friends?). There are no laws on cryptocurrencies, which means that it is not prohibited, but it is allowed!!!

But of course, most people will not bother to search for information, believing you.

[ni23457]

You are a cheap whore already got an answer, but you don’t need it because you are a whore. You are here to repeat the same questions and get a penny for it.

WE? I see only one whore who want to know who I am and this whore is you  

Yes, it is, I am truly the only one here who does not understand you. First, you spit on rules that you didn’t even read, send fake, and then you blame someone for being born an idiot. I can never understand it because there is no logic in it.

So ban me and refund the money, idiot. I don't need your exchange. Who are you to hold someone's money, fucking scammer? If you are sure that you had stolen money, then you must report to the Russian police. What the fuck do you keep my money for 3 months, you fucking thieves?

There are no laws on cryptocurrencies, which means that it is not prohibited, but it is allowed!!!

Moreover, the authorities's official attitude to cryptocurrencies is extremely ambiguous. Some authorities call for everything to be legitimized. Others require strict punishment of people employed in the crypto business.


A letter from the Central Bank of Russia on the use of private "virtual currencies" (crypto currency)
https://www.cbr.ru/press/pr/?file=04092017_183512if2017-09-04T18_31_05.htm
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A letter from Russian Federal Tax Service
http://docs.cntd.ru/document/456022863
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Due to the lack of legislative and judicial practice, the work of cryptoexchange can be attributed to illegal banking. This will depend solely on the considerations of the state investigator or prosecutor. It is worth noting that the application and interpretation of laws in Russia is extremely floating and unstable.

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You can never be sure that these masked people will not come to them because of illegal banking activities or non-payment of taxes.

It is also worth noting that in Russia you can not organize a large illegal business without bribes.

[toodamntired]

toodamntired, impressive post   
I will only comment on what I do not fully agree with.

Just because a company is registered in one jurisdiction and works from another, wile claiming to be from yet another location does not automatically make them scammers.

I do not blame them for being registered somewhere. I blame them for giving out their registration for their real location. And people think that they are from the Czech Republic, but this is a lie.
Everyone knows that Yandex is a Russian company, which is located in Russia. And almost no one knows that it is registered in Netherlands. Yandex never pretended they were in Netherlands because they didn’t need to pretend. They are an honest and respected company in the world.

If I was a Russian citizen, who owned a business that targeted customers on a global scale, I sure the hell would not say I was in Russia.

I am sure that the only reason for which they conceal that they from Russia is not an image/reputaion, but a fear of the Russian authorities and laws. Since there are no laws on cryptocurrency in Russia their activity is shady there. And they have every chance that once masked people come to them (as in the photo in the first post).

By sending in those images, you did violate their terms of service and really there is no one to blame for that, except for yourself.

I spat on the rules written by some anonymous guys.
If they do not like that I spit on their rules, then let them just ban me in their service. Who are they to hold my property and refuse to refund?
I did not violate the laws of the state. I demanded to return my money in the first day (3 months ago)
If they had information that my money was stolen, they should have reported it to the Russian police. What the hell do they keep this money with? Who are they??

I repeat to you again. If I broke the rules of the fucking site, then this fucking site can stop working with me. Even in their wicked agreement there was no line that if I refuse to send them my documents, they will not return my money to me.

Therefore, they have the right to refuse me in exchange. I don't need their fucking exchange. But they have no right to hold my property, because they are nobody, they are not the police, they are not a bank, and not a stock exchange, they are Russian guys who bought the company in an offshore garbage dump for $ 650.

Furthermore, I think that while Changelly is not directly responsible, the representative from Changelly who has posted here is incorrect in one aspect for sure. A comment by the person posting as Changelly said that they were not responsible for what a third-party does using their API.

They are the same people living in the same city and having several shit companies
Russian Changelly, Atomic Wallet, ChangeNOW, Guarda, Ink.one, Evercode Lab (for unregistered users)
You for example have seen messages from Atomic Wallet here. This is a new company of the owner and former CEO of Changelly - Gla***hev. The co-founder of Atomic Wallet is Br**ov. Br**ov is co-founder of St Petersburg' Evercode Lab  (developer of ChangeNOW). It's just St. Petersburg family

Changelly, do something about it. because if you serve 2-million customers, $70k worth of BCH is not worth the headache. Time spent posting on it here, replying to posts elsewhere, customers lost as a result of their opinion being in line with OPs, etc...

It is very difficult for them. Because it is a system. If a person does not send documents, then the money remains with them.
And they find it difficult to go against it. They are afraid of precedent and its consequences for their rich life.
Read the Internet and see how many such cases. Someone even created a website.
http://changellyreview.com/
And everywhere the same words: fear of stolen money, Europol etc.
You understand that all this money remains with them? Do you understand the volume of this money? I think that for example 10% of users never send their documents. They are afraid of losing such a business. So it is very dangerous to make a precedent and return money to me.

they should be b boycotted and ousted as performing bas business, but not of scamming since there is no actual proof of that.

People use fake names and pretend that they are from the Czech Republic and you do not call it a scam? What names did they use here?
They are not rap singers to use pseudonyms. They manage MONEY business service. Ask yourself for what purpose do they use fake names?

If changelly gave u whitelisted account and change now is the same gang, than I don't see the reason why they should hold your coins untill you goes through kyc with them.

As you can see, they do not deny it. If they deny, then I will give theymos or another authoritative user a login/password from my email and he will confirm our correspondence and transactions.
I sent PM to you (not with login/pass  )

Hey, don't misunderstand me. They have no right to hold your money, for any reason. I am not saying that what they are doing is not a scam, I am simply saying that there is no proof of it. Do I think that they are scamming people, selectively or not? sure. I think they absolutely are, but without proof, I am just saying that I wouldn't use the term.

You bring up a very good point about precedence. I never considered that aspect of it before and I have to agree with you there. If they give you your money back, then all of the other people who didn't send documents and lost their funds will have a legal basis for reclaiming their money.

I understand that they are not rap artists and have no reason to use fake names. However, it is not illegal to do this, it is jt's very shady business practices.

Either way, this is a totally bad situation. It is situations like these that cause the problems that the cryptocurrency world had to fight through every single day. I am looking into some things on my end, as I am a writer for a couple of larger cryptocurrency websites and if the is something here, then it needs to be made public so that people can either be forewarned, r at least have the information to be fully informed.

So please, my friend, do not take anything in my original post as being me disagreeing with you. I am simply adding my two cents, is all. I think that it is a situation that needs to be monitored and action needs to be taken in some way. Not only for you and your money that they have, but for the entire crypto-community, as a whole.

[DevelopmentBank]

Wow this is definitely some big news considering that Changelly has already become quite popular. Good thing i saw it this on the bitcointalk forum advertisment section. Surprised you paid that amount to get this listed.

People should really be made more aware if this is true.

[JollyGood]

Wow this is definitely some big news considering that Changelly has already become quite popular. Good thing i saw it this on the bitcointalk forum advertisment section. Surprised you paid that amount to get this listed.

People should really be made more aware if this is true.

It is true, Changelly, Atomic Swaps and Changenow are scammers.

[s1lverbox]

Hello ni23457,

Look at me man. I done big investigation even before you found about this. The modereators were deleted my posts.

I put my invesitigation details here https://pastebin.com/RRuM2a0C


These are some Ukraine and Russian people, along with some chineese and czech. My data 100% correct because all data came from advanced DNS, SSL analytics.

Wow. Just wow. More this stays visible, more people showing up with revelation like this.

[Vizefog]

I am looking into some things on my end, as I am a writer for a couple of larger cryptocurrency websites and if the is something here, then it needs to be made public so that people can either be forewarned, r at least have the information to be fully informed.

In this case, you should definitely publish the research of the other side.

https://medium.com/@arennathan9/changenow-scam-or-review-how-ni23457-blackmails-the-exchange-978c483ef81a

So please, my friend, do not take anything in my original post as being me disagreeing with you. I am simply adding my two cents

For the same reason, since I disagreed with ni23457, he calls me a “cheap whore” and made a mark in my TRUST: just selective scammers' cheap whore

Therefore, friend, be prepared for the fact that this guy will call you a slut, for you not kissing his ass thanks for his “revealing”, the price of which is a cent! He pointed to some people who might be Russians. What is the crime? They are public, but this donkey wants to remain anonymous. This is the problem!

This guy sends a photo of his ass (twice), says it is a joke, but for some reason thinks that the exchange should take him seriously. Is he an idiot, or does he have shit in his head? I do not agree with him only because of this stupid act, and that’s all, but he insults me like a dirty thug.

Surprised you paid that amount to get this listed.

He paid to spoil the reputation of the exchange, forcing them to return coins without KYC!!! Blackmail!! Do not be stupid, no one spends money when already lost.

It is true, Changelly, Atomic Swaps and Changenow are scammers.

As always, man, you kiss the ass of ni23457 in each of his threads (this gives me some guesses).

[isintel]

Vizefog is Shadow CEO of all of these companies. Text analytics never lie

I can hire CEO, Employees at 15$ and take some photo, do some video bla Easy in msocow

[ni23457]

paid lie

You are a cheap whore already got an answer, but you don’t need it because you are a whore. You are here to repeat the same questions and get a penny for it.

matej krkic - full time troll of ChangeNOW scammers or just a cheap whore

Do you spit on the rules?

You cannot demand anything from me. You are just a bunch of Russian guys who bought a cheap company in offshore garbage dump (650 USD). So you are nobody and I spit on you and sent what was near at hand. [Just because I like to spit on brazen assholes and humiliate them ]  What is not clear to you idiot?

You are fucking bunch from Russia which stole my money 3 months ago and do not refund it.
You lied all these months that you are afraid of simply returning money just because you are afraid of problems with Europol. But as soon as it became known, you just disappeared from the forum, pathetic scammers.

At the same time, I was a customer of Changelly[actually parent of ChangeNOW, as it became known later] and have whitelisted account there and exchanged hundreds of bitcoins in recent months without any kind of KYC. (it's funny but they gave me whitelisted account after ChangeNOW's scam!) The fact is that I have 5-year-old crystal clear coins, so it never aroused suspicion from anyone.

So ban me and refund the money, idiot. I don't need your exchange. Who are you to hold someone's money, fucking scammer? If you are sure that you had stolen money, then you must report to the Russian police. What the fuck do you keep my money for 3 months, you fucking thieves?

[isintel]

ni23457 is not a scammer. Any scammer can bypass this webcam,real id stuff using darkweb. he want justice for everyone . i do not think any scammers will do these things that ni23457 doing. He is legit!

[s1lverbox]

He paid to spoil the reputation of the exchange, forcing them to return coins without KYC!!! Blackmail!! Do not be stupid, no one spends money when already lost.

Reason for not going through kyc with anybody is not good enough to hold funds hostage.
Blackmail? where? the only partie who lost here is OP.

Op clearly have issue with all this change...corp and therefore has every right to go public about it.

They do selectively scamming using aml and kyc and should be clealry avoided.

[plr]

Changelly said we can exchange  btc no matter the amount without KYC
However they asked for KYC for this guy

So yes changelly is a scam, they must be arrested

The matter is that the author's transaction wasn't processed on Changelly. We have no access to any data concerning the user's transaction.

Too bad for your program it is now marked as a dangerous website, I tried to access it but all search engine and anti virus have marked your website as a dangerous and untrusted website, not good for a transaction based website, you will have a hard time fixing this.

[JollyGood]

Too bad for your program it is now marked as a dangerous website, I tried to access it but all search engine and anti virus have marked your website as a dangerous and untrusted website, not good for a transaction based website, you will have a hard time fixing this.

If Changelly is flagged as a dangerous website then I am happy because nobody wants anybody else to get scammed by these thieves.

Having 110 Bitcoin Cash stolen is not a joke and it is not a small amount of money, it was around 11 Bitcoin at the time of the scam. They should pay him back and apologise.

[diddlez]

Am I the only one who has used changelly before without issue?  This was several months ago though.  Do they selectively scam now?