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September 26, 2018, 12:38:35 AM
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Depends what you're asking. I think it's fair enough to go from Newbie to Junior Member (though I wouldn't be against it being five or even ten merit), but I don't think Junior's should be able to get a signature from a solitary merit, especially when it is so easy to just beg or buy or trade a single merit. I personally think signatures should be removed from Juniors and to get one you need ten merit and to become a Member. That would cut down on a lot of abuse and make it ten times harder to be able to earn via signatures here and hopefully it's something theymos will consider. I don't think anything is set in stone here either and it would be simple to require more merit and maybe that will happen if it becomes clear over time that abuse is rife and not really stopping many spammers.

haha to be that's funny. Is it really a thing to beg or buy merits? I thought this is a way of distinguishing shit posting from actual help.

But to the original question, I think 1 merit is quite enough. You can see MANY newbies here with 100+ posts without a merit. So I don't think this would be an issue. I like the new rule.

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September 26, 2018, 12:55:49 AM
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sweetrose1968 but you shouldn't want just one. We all need to better ourselves in the forum quality of posts. No one but maybe early bounty hunters would stop at 1 merit.

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September 26, 2018, 06:28:23 AM
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Depends what you're asking. I think it's fair enough to go from Newbie to Junior Member (though I wouldn't be against it being five or even ten merit), but I don't think Junior's should be able to get a signature from a solitary merit, especially when it is so easy to just beg or buy or trade a single merit. I personally think signatures should be removed from Juniors and to get one you need ten merit and to become a Member. That would cut down on a lot of abuse and make it ten times harder to be able to earn via signatures here and hopefully it's something theymos will consider. I don't think anything is set in stone here either and it would be simple to require more merit and maybe that will happen if it becomes clear over time that abuse is rife and not really stopping many spammers.

haha to be that's funny. Is it really a thing to beg or buy merits? I thought this is a way of distinguishing shit posting from actual help.

But to the original question, I think 1 merit is quite enough. You can see MANY newbies here with 100+ posts without a merit. So I don't think this would be an issue. I like the new rule.

What's funny? Yes, people do beg or buy merits, and sadly there are people who are willing sell or give them away just for asking and that's why one merit isn't enough. I think you're probably just biased because you know the chances of you getting ten merit are much, much harder (though far from impossible for you). You look to have got lucky on the two you have received so far, but fair enough. Many other people also get lucky and receive one merit when they don't really deserve it and one really isn't enough because anyone can get lucky or just copy and paste a post or content and get merit for it. One or two merit doesn't qualify you to be able to earn here and ten makes that a much better test of your ability and also much harder to abuse. Ten merit is nothing at all to a great poster and one could get that with one or two well thought out posts, but one merit doesn't stop much in the grand scheme of things. There are many newbies with hundreds or even thousands of posts because they contribute little to nothing but spam here and the bigger their post count with a lack of merit will usually instantly tell you a lot.

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September 26, 2018, 11:14:13 AM
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I can't understand why people who come to this forum and write about the merits, "saying that you need to get 1 credit to use his signature"
Why are you doing this?
Why do you write about it here and complain and say that it is difficult to do? Many old-timers this forum not like to see such messages, the more the first messages your. Don't take credit for it. Challenge yourself a week to write a useful guide on the subject which you understand and every week write such reports on this forum. In a month you will be noticed and by that time you will have a lot of useful information.
Why would you stop at only 1 merit?
You need to grow to a senior and get encouragement from other participants. I personally met such participants who have earned more than 250 merits since the introduction of the new rules in 2018, it is really impressive. Become the best and then around you there will be people who admire you. Good luck mate.

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September 26, 2018, 11:44:04 AM
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With all due respect sir there is nothing played here I just made a comment pls it high time the account of spammer  should not be melted on other. Is it a crime to be a newbie or am I been picked on because I am not up to your standard

I bet you will not get merit if you use the word "sir" frequently in the future, I am sure that the old members of the forum have been very disgusted with the word.
The best advice I can give you is "please stop using the word "Sir" and don't use it in the future."
Pls sir this your advice is the worst I have heard all year
Sir is a way of showing politeness I just made a post and I knew it would be greeted with a lot of criticism well I know some will like it and some will not.  And for the record sir I will not stop using the word because it has and will take me places
you are working in international forum where "sir" if used means the user just trying to beg the favor of others.  So advise of the friend not using "Sir" in your chat is 100% correct.  But still you are using it.  OK it's up to you to accept the advise of the old members or not.  But on not accepting the loser will only be yourself.
Though your suggestion of 5-10 merits is good because earning 5-10 merits means much labor and sincerity. 
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September 26, 2018, 06:12:33 PM
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One merit is simply enough ,the Admin never make a mistake ,l believe they took statistic and value each post or comment the forum member make.l believe that  if the activities of bounty managers are check mate it will also reduce spam in the forum.we need to deal with root cause of the spam and not the spammers in the forum ,if this is achieve the purpose of the forum will come to limelight again.

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September 27, 2018, 01:27:02 AM
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The updated merit requirement has brought frustration and desperation under one roof.  Grin

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September 27, 2018, 09:49:01 PM
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Edit:  I looked at his posts, and the only ones I'm allowed to see are in Merit ever since the new merit sources were added.  It's not an unreasonable expectation that his prior posts were in spam megathreads--but someone correct me if I'm wrong.  I have a lot of sections blocked.
I don't see anything suspicious that would make you doubt writing good messages. I would rate them 3+ out of 5. Of course, the author has a lot of articles that look foot bindings and I think that this is not a unique text. Tested for uniqueness through the service text.ru (only 2 articles) shows that the author, indeed he wrote, 100% uniqueness. So you decide...
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September 27, 2018, 10:11:10 PM
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I feel at least 10 or 5 merit should be a standard this way it makes it more harder and only deserving individuals can get it with some great post and it will be expensive to buy or get through other means

That's my suggestion, to have an additional 5 merits requirements because if we really want to avoid spammers here, we should put a huge barrier to avoid those accounts let in the castle. I mean, 1 merit can be gain through posting a single topic without puttin' a little effort.  Roll Eyes

The updated merit requirement has brought frustration and desperation under one roof.  Grin

Well, I think it's not enough. If you really saw the massive shitposting that comes from the Jr. Members - Members, you'll feel inside that we need to add more. I'm not being selfish because I'm here at the top and I want them to force back at the beggining. I also started in the bottom but I managed to reach this rank through effort and dedication, that's the factor I wanted to see on those Jr. Members. If you want to be successful then give it a hard time to improve yourself to feel at the end that you really deserve it.  Grin

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September 28, 2018, 10:37:26 AM
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It'senought.
Merit is trackable, so there is a high risk to buy it, the best way is to publish some useful info.
I was one of the ppl who always publish shit posts for airdrop or bounty program, after the new law, I have deleted all of them, just wanna learn the real blockchain technology, not all kind of tricks, so I'm starting blockchain online course, solidity programming etc. 
In general, what I mean is a new law is useful and effective.

About the numbers.
Actually, I think it's not the issues, number of the merit. for example, could be 1, 5 or 10, then what will happen in the future? every time when we have too many shit posts, we increase the number of merits, I don't think it's a solution.  So 1 merit is  enough,In my opinion, int BTT there are only 2 kind of ppl, with Merit and without merit, this means there are two different groups of people.  What BTT needs is a group of ppl who folow the rules and value their merit.
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September 28, 2018, 11:54:27 AM
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Its so enough for doing 2nd spam attack
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September 28, 2018, 12:52:35 PM
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For the OP creator,

For now, one merit for Junior member rank has massively affected spammers. All of them turned to Newbies, and part of them exchanged merit (one point) to move back to Junior rank.
Of course, it's hard to discover how they abuse the merit system and also unfairly to judge their abusements base on only one merited thread.
Sometimes, forum users send their sMerits away for non-sense thread without merit exchange.

In another topic, I suggested potential solution in the future.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5039367.msg46269972#msg46269972
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September 28, 2018, 02:41:27 PM
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sweetrose1968 but you shouldn't want just one. We all need to better ourselves in the forum quality of posts. No one but maybe early bounty hunters would stop at 1 merit.

I think he spat on forum , only need one merit for bounty participate Smiley
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