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October 10, 2018, 01:09:39 PM
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You are nitpicking my words. The ccminer compiles on Linux, but not on all distribution and versions, just like any other ccminer fork.
The git repo doesn't have the correct attributes because it has been initialised by a windows developer, using my code.
The limitation on GPU number hasn't been introduced by the changes needed to run X22i. The reason why the miner was forked from an older ccminer is because of the need to have support for getblocktemplate, to have a fair launch even without pools.
Hope that answers all of your questions.

Yes - one question is answered ...

But I didn't ask ANY others, AND the reasoning you provided still doesn't fix anything Pallas. It just explains WHY.

It is this so called 'nitpicking' that you refer to that eliminates the confusion created when you speak generally of such things. It is something almost ALL developers seem to do in this Crypto space, and it causes more issue than resolve. Had there been specifics (those reasons) given from the beginning, confusion would not settle in and we would not be having this discussion. Better yet, had these issues been addressed BEFORE the release, the same would result. Either way, the issues remain and so the state of which the miner sits is still the same, getblocktemplate or not.

It is a few simple issues that could be easily resolved BEFORE the publication of the code, setting this project apart from all the others, instead of melding in with ALL the others that do the same thing.

BTW - I did NOT state that the GPU limitation was 'introduced' by the x22i Algo, I merely stated that there was NO CARE taken to allow larger miners a resolve to this GPU limitation issue of the miner. Something that could have been resolved also BEFORE the release of the miner, and something that is simply consequential of the lack of CARE taken once again, based on 'your' code or otherwise.

So thank you for answering my one question about the GPU limitation, and thank you for explaining why the issues in the git exist. It still doesn't help those that require a simpler way of compiling, nor does it help people who are new to this space (which unfortunately is the majority these days), to begin their journey into the mining/Crypto arena.

This is NOT an attack as you seem to have taken it, but specifics on what the ISSUES are in this project, at least from my/our side. Something this project NEEDS to consider when trying to show professionalism within the realms of the project, and all it has.

Much respect mate!

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I don't think my posts shown anything about attacks; and I can explain everything, but you write so much :-)
We did not want to delay relase of the coin, nor make the miner unstable or buggy when first released, hence why we choose not to use the most recent ccminer and add getblocktemplate support to it. This meant no >9 gpu support, but I think a good launch and fair mining is more important. The miner will be enhanced and improved.
You are stating an absence of care for huge farms, I'm saying an absence of care would have been releasing a coin without gpu miner, and have all the private miners floating around, which happens on a lot of coins. We launched a fair coin, that was the goal. Now let the improvements come.
Feel free to make pull requests for any enhancement to the miner you might have. We are a community project after all.
Thanks for your support :-)

No worries mate ...

The changes involved to increase GPU accessibility should be high on the list, regardless of whether they are farms or not. I am indicating (not stating anything about huge farms) that there are MANY single systems out there now who have much more than 8 GPU, which cannot be considered a farm by any stretch of the imagination, and should be supported also. So if the next version of the miner is that CURRENT technological advancements are taken into account, we can ALL benefit from it, not just the majority of smaller miners.

Two ways could have been approached here.

1 - Change the CURRENT fork of ccminer-tpruvot so that it allowed getblocktemplate direct mining.
2 - Change the older version of the fork (the one in git) to allow for multiple GPU, and able to compile properly with a COMPLETE codebase, not the partial one that is in git now.

Either way, I do write much because I write as I would explain in real life Smiley

Your opinion of a 'good' launch' is obviously different to mine mate, so I will leave it at that.

When decisions like this are made without community interaction or knowledge, then how much of a community project is it? Before or after you launch a coin/miner that benefits the select users that only have smaller machines (albeit the majority) AND know how to fix the issues in git? Just food for thought there mate Wink

We are all in this together, so I will commit the changes to a Pull Request when I can this coming week.

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October 10, 2018, 02:02:53 PM
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by your own words, the fix you are requesting is not for "the majority", and if it was a one liner, and I could test it, I would have done it already.
but what about the majority? do you know there is no amd miner yet, for example? don't you think that, from the community perspective, that should be given priority?
releasing a perfect coin is impossible, pleasing everyone is impossible, we are doing our best and we are sorry if you feel left out.
constructive complains help.
good code commits help even more ;-)

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October 10, 2018, 02:56:08 PM
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 The  X22i Algorithm Whitepaper is Released!
Enjoy.
https://suqa.org/file/2018/10/x22i-proof-of-work-algorithm.pdf
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October 10, 2018, 04:05:05 PM
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by your own words, the fix you are requesting is not for "the majority", and if it was a one liner, and I could test it, I would have done it already.
but what about the majority? do you know there is no amd miner yet, for example? don't you think that, from the community perspective, that should be given priority?
releasing a perfect coin is impossible, pleasing everyone is impossible, we are doing our best and we are sorry if you feel left out.
constructive complains help.
good code commits help even more ;-)

Constructive CRITICISMS (not complaints) ARE what you in front of you Pallas ...

Majority does NOT mean you have looked and catered for even the simplest of things within the code, such as executable bits before committing to Git, or missing the majority of the compat/ directory so people cannot compile properly before committing in Git. Seriously? You think that is a difficult thing to do for the 'majority' of the community? You think that is 'perfection'? Or is it simply laziness and a penchant for NOT checking on what SHOULD be a simple thing to fix?

Had you been truly 'sorry', then I would think even some of these simple issues would have been fixed and sorted from the beginning, instead of allowing the this wound to open and prove that the laziness that comes with the code, also reflects with the project, hence the team involved. It is a domino effect that is simply uncalled for. something that I honestly believe you think is irrelevant. I am NOT a minority, I am one of the majority. So if you think I feel left out, you considerably wrong. It is the same for the request I made to YOU personally about the XCN miner GPU limitation (remember that coin mate? The one YOU are the team lead in?). YOU responded with the acceptance it also needs to be done AND will resolve the issue when you can. It has only been approximately three months since I requested, and in that time, not only have you NOT had the time to 'fix' the miner, you have been able to work on the miner here, and a few other projects.

Kudos to you mate. This is what I mean by the responsibility of setting up a coin/project to be done in a professional manner. It has NOTHING to do with setting a 'perfect' coin. There is no such thing. Yet you take my criticisms, which I meant in all honesty and sincerity to be an alert to you and the SUQA team that there is something 'wrong' here, only to be shrugged off like this, and accused of 'feeling left out'? Come on mate. You know me better than most here, and a response like that is no response at all.

I am about to read the white paper now, seeing it has just been released.

I like the X22i Algo - so it will be part of our mining system soon. So ALL this I am writing is for what? Just simply to allow you to know the shortcomings of something YOU are involved in, that has fallen short of YOUR level of skill and expertise. Maybe I place you on a higher pedestal than I should, but the help you gave me personally will never be forgotten, so maybe that is where I deem you to be one of the better coders that wouldn't allow these simple issues to be present, which can be deemed as laziness within the project itself.

I will admit you are doing a good job thus far, but to say that I'm basically complaining because I feel left out? Well mate, the multiGPU XCN miner is now a CWI internal miner that DOES mine with more than 8+ GPU (upto 25 now), as we now have working with us one of the top level CUDA developers in the Crypto space (about to be published soon) who is assigned to build these things that most of the 'other' devs are too damned lazy to do from the beginning. This means it will COST us internally to have another miner to the same thing, when the simple fact is that the miner and code should have been 'fixed' from the beginning. Community pay for this? Or donate? Or did you bring this to life? Hardly.

As for the optimizations? Well, we all know what happens there, don't we mate? I'll stay watching this project. As for 'support' and 'community', we will see how that pans out. As long as you are involved here, then there is a good chance that things will move well, but these shortcomings being as prevalent as they are may prove quite the unstable platform you won't want to continue building on.

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October 10, 2018, 04:05:48 PM
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The  X22i Algorithm Whitepaper is Released!
Enjoy.
https://suqa.org/file/2018/10/x22i-proof-of-work-algorithm.pdf

Thanks ...

Reading now.

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October 10, 2018, 04:16:02 PM
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maybe someone does not know.
new miner for x22i algo.
hashrate  x2 for all gpu.

https://github.com/zjazz/zjazz_cuda_miner_experimental/releases/tag/x22i_0991

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October 10, 2018, 04:27:23 PM
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maybe someone does not know.
new miner for x22i algo.
hashrate  x2 for all gpu.

https://github.com/zjazz/zjazz_cuda_miner_experimental/releases/tag/x22i_0991



This miner will not work in Fedora 27 x64 ...

Due to version issues with the compile that was done, and the tests we performed in CWI.

We have not tested this on any other OS.

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October 10, 2018, 04:35:21 PM
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maybe someone does not know.
new miner for x22i algo.
hashrate  x2 for all gpu.

https://github.com/zjazz/zjazz_cuda_miner_experimental/releases/tag/x22i_0991



This miner will not work in Fedora 27 x64 ...

Due to version issues with the compile that was done, and the tests we performed in CWI.

We have not tested this on any other OS.

#crysx

Hello my friend! What about sweepstake? What about countdown on website sweep stake? One year gone Huh
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October 10, 2018, 04:45:10 PM
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maybe someone does not know.
new miner for x22i algo.
hashrate  x2 for all gpu.

https://github.com/zjazz/zjazz_cuda_miner_experimental/releases/tag/x22i_0991



This miner will not work in Fedora 27 x64 ...

Due to version issues with the compile that was done, and the tests we performed in CWI.

We have not tested this on any other OS.

#crysx

Hello my friend! What about sweepstake? What about countdown on website sweep stake? One year gone Huh

This is not the place direct these questions ...

Please take it to the relevant thread, but generally speaking, the CWI website is up, but only the conditional part of the website. The rest is being finished in the backend and will contain ALL the coins we have ALL the coins we support in that website alone. There will not be anything separate. This means that if we support SUQA as part of the CWI Supported coins, we will have that included also, alongside partnered coins, in the one place.

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October 10, 2018, 05:16:37 PM
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Interesting project. Can't wait to dig in!
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October 10, 2018, 07:14:13 PM
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EQpool.com
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we are added SUQA coin for mining!

Code:
-a x22i -o stratum+tcp://eqpool.com:3223 -u WALLET_ADDRESS -p c=SUQA

All miners WELCOME!!! Very low pool fee... only 1%
All ports Nicehash and Miningrigrental friendly!


DEV! Please add our pool on ANN message!

Why would anyone want to mine in a pool with no other miners?
Might as off solo mine.
Dev Please don't list empty pools to the Pool list.


when it's new of course it's empty. If you dont announce it how will people know.

I dont find it strange.
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October 10, 2018, 07:34:31 PM
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EQpool.com
http://eqpool.com

we are added SUQA coin for mining!

Code:
-a x22i -o stratum+tcp://eqpool.com:3223 -u WALLET_ADDRESS -p c=SUQA

All miners WELCOME!!! Very low pool fee... only 1%
All ports Nicehash and Miningrigrental friendly!


DEV! Please add our pool on ANN message!

Why would anyone want to mine in a pool with no other miners?
Might as off solo mine.
Dev Please don't list empty pools to the Pool list.

each pool will take care of its miners itself, if the pool is not popular and empty, does it make sense to indicate it in ann thread?

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October 11, 2018, 08:01:36 AM
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Hi everyone ,


Finally SUQA x22i AMD miner is here Smiley

https://github.com/zjazz/zjazz_cuda_miner_experimental/releases/tag/x22i_amd_0993

Grab it and join the hash!
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Hi everyone ,


Finally SUQA x22i AMD miner is here Smiley

https://github.com/zjazz/zjazz_cuda_miner_experimental/releases/tag/x22i_amd_0993

Grab it and join the hash!


Super!!! Cheesy diff go to the moon Cheesy
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October 11, 2018, 09:36:32 AM
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It is time for the NVIDIA Miner Bounty but this time it is different. We wanted to create two different miner bounties so nobody will get bored Smiley But also AMD owners please wait before complaining, because we will update your bounty with the new reward system but different amount, when your current bounty finishes, so stay tuned.

Here is how the new system works: we are making it more competitive and rewarding for the CUDA Developers.
It is called the “CUDA SUQA X22i Best Developer Award”. For every 10% improvement of the CUDA SUQA miner, in the form of a commit (pull request to our opensource repository), we will reward 100K SUQA.
Developers with good CUDA skills will earn more SUQA, and the unique X22i algo will get a lot of opensource free boost, not only for the SUQA currency but for the new cryptocurrencies that are going to use the x22i algo, to stay decentralized from ASICS and FPGAS and eventually from Quantum Computer Attacks.

Bounty Thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5048244.new#new

Technical Details :
The tests will run on a 1080ti (most common mining gpu), the increases must reflect on the other gpus too (1060, 1070, etc., if there's a decrease on any of those, no reward will be awarded). Improvements of less than 3% will be discarded.
Measures will be taken at the GPU’s default settings without overclock.
Increases based on higher intensity only will be discarded.
Each submission must name the cuda toolkit to use. The base speed of the current source will be measured on the cuda-toolkit it gives the best hashrate with.
No .ptx commits… Only opensource code.
Power usage for the proposed optimizations should not increase too much in comparison to the related hashrate increase. (example: if a 10% hashrate increase is achieved by a 15% increase in power usage, the submission will be discarded).
100K SUQA for every 10% hash rate increase of the X22i CUDA Miner over the Official Opensource SUQA Nvidia(CUDA) Miner.
https://github.com/SUQAORG/ccminer-x22i/releases
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October 11, 2018, 09:57:07 AM
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Here are all the Pools for mining the Unique X22i Algo SUQA cryptocurrency so far.


http://yiimp.eu/                    Fee 2 %

https://uberkripto.club           Fee 1%

http://icemining.ca/               Fee 1%

https://yiimp.cn/                   Fee 1%

https://eqpool.com                Fee 1%

https://pool.ahash.ru             Fee 1%

https://pool.coin-miners.info  Fee 1%

https://bsod.pw/                   Fee 0.9%

https://www.gos.cx/              Fee 0.9%

http://pool.douzipool.club/     Fee  0.5%

https://tera.tn//                    Fee 0.5%

https://marspool.org             Fee 0.5%

https://subscriberpool.com    Fee 0.5%

https://www.focus-pool.com   Fee 0.3%

https://mecrypto.club            No Fee


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October 11, 2018, 10:21:14 AM
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Here are all the Pools for mining the Unique X22i Algo SUQA cryptocurrency so far.


http://yiimp.eu/                    Fee 2 %

https://uberkripto.club           Fee 1%

http://icemining.ca/               Fee 1%

https://yiimp.cn/                   Fee 1%

https://eqpool.com                Fee 1%

https://pool.ahash.ru             Fee 1%

https://pool.coin-miners.info  Fee 1%

https://bsod.pw/                   Fee 0.9%

https://www.gos.cx/              Fee 0.9%

http://pool.douzipool.club/     Fee  0.5%

https://tera.tn//                    Fee 0.5%

https://marspool.org             Fee 0.5%

https://subscriberpool.com    Fee 0.5%

https://www.focus-pool.com   Fee 0.3%

https://mecrypto.club            No Fee


Find us at...

https://suqa.org

Discord: https://discord.gg/qrtU7Y9

Twitter: https://twitter.com/SUQAfoundation

Dev why do not you update the topic with amd miner?
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October 11, 2018, 11:16:38 AM
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I am still confused about how many rewards in the block from the developers?
Can you please explain in more detail?
I'm sure this is a good project.
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October 11, 2018, 11:57:46 AM
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I am still confused about how many rewards in the block from the developers?
Can you please explain in more detail?
I'm sure this is a good project.
Hi. There is a 10% dev fee on every block. Until block number 22.000 the blok rewards will be 10.000 SUQA to Miners and 1000 SUQA to Founders Fee. Starting from block 22.001 halving time ,the reward will be 5000 SUQA to Miners and 500 SUQA to Founders Fee. The block rewards is available on the first page of this thread. Total supply will be 1.18 billion SUQA or less depending on the time-locked coins.

The 10% Founders Fee will go to,

2.2% of founders fee for Marketing and Bounties.
2.2% of founders fee for exchanges listing, investors, unforeseen expenses etc
0.5% Websites Development and Hosting.
0.1% Legal fees
2.5 % for Developers
2.5% of founders fee for SUQA Foundation Rewards.

Total of 30 million SUQA will be given away as Bounties and Rewards in 5.78 years.
So the Foundation Fee is actually 7.5% because 2.5% will be given directly to the community as rewards.

SUQA Foundation Rewards will be explained on the Whitepaper October 15.

Hope it was clear enough Smiley

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October 11, 2018, 12:00:52 PM
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Here are all the Pools for mining the Unique X22i Algo SUQA cryptocurrency so far.


http://yiimp.eu/                    Fee 2 %

https://uberkripto.club           Fee 1%

http://icemining.ca/               Fee 1%

https://yiimp.cn/                   Fee 1%

https://eqpool.com                Fee 1%

https://pool.ahash.ru             Fee 1%

https://pool.coin-miners.info  Fee 1%

https://bsod.pw/                   Fee 0.9%

https://www.gos.cx/              Fee 0.9%

http://pool.douzipool.club/     Fee  0.5%

https://tera.tn//                    Fee 0.5%

https://marspool.org             Fee 0.5%

https://subscriberpool.com    Fee 0.5%

https://www.focus-pool.com   Fee 0.3%

https://mecrypto.club            No Fee


Find us at...

https://suqa.org

Discord: https://discord.gg/qrtU7Y9

Twitter: https://twitter.com/SUQAfoundation

Dev why do not you update the topic with amd miner?
We can not post unsupported closed-source software on our official thread but the information is on our https://discord.gg/qrtU7Y9 unsupported-closed-source channel posted by the 3rd party SUQA X22i Developers.
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