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November 08, 2021, 04:45:19 PM
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While this forum specifically doesn't moderate scams, at least all the scam reviews on the board are more informative than any other review sites out there which tend to have no new user limits and too many shills.

What people reading service reviews want is to make sure that the reviewers are legit and accurate. Luckily this is a discussion forum where scam reviews can be explained in detail with pictures, quotes, and external links. Of course, I think it is necessary, helpful and effective.

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In the first 2 pages, I got 2 threads on scam accusations of the forum user. How the board is helping us to identify forum scammers?

If scam is perpetrated by forum users, can't you see their case through their trust score?

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November 09, 2021, 03:08:29 AM
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It's not about ignoring & getting rid of the shits. It's all about the usage of the board as I have clearly stated in the title "Effectively". If the board doesn't serve its purpose, where's the necessity of having it either?
What are you expecting? Only scam should post which already happen? This isn't court where you can't say scammer anyone before proving them. Here is the board for open discussion about the scam and possible scams. You may propose to change the scam accusation board name to the "Possible Scam Accusation" board.

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In the first 2 pages, I got 2 threads on scam accusations of the forum user. How the board is helping us to identify forum scammers?
You already answered it by finding two scam accusations of a forum user. How isn't helping that? The scammer hasn't been labeling from there which are reflected over the forum?

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It's not even possible to find out a thread where there's a forum scam accusation existed. I believe this board was mainly created to post the on forum scam accusation though over the years it has turned into crap like this. I don't want to mention what are the craps; I believe most of you know which threads I'm talking about.
It doesn't matter what you believe, it's your belief. I haven't found anything yet on the forum rules or guidelines to posting scam accusations.

If you say users post most of the accusations for getting merits and fill the weekly quota for the signature campaign, then I would agree with you. Then I and you posting here to fill the weekly quota, we can't ignore the truth, I am not excluding me. But giving merit it's up to users. If someone thinks posters deserve since they take effort to research and make the post then they could merit the post. If you want to say posts are worthless then I won't agree with you anyway.


Have you seen any project Telegram where investors ask a question about scam allegations of the forum although they haven't been promoting on the forum? If I can remember correctly then definitely I have seen. Do you know the cryptocurrency community how to evaluate the forum scam accusation? Sometimes the scam project caught this way.

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November 09, 2021, 07:27:46 AM
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Most of the times, all I can see "Scam accusation" is full of X airdrop scam, X coin fake airdrop scam, X coin phishing scam. I don't know; maybe I'm the only one to getting board on this. I don't see any scam accusation which needs the attention of bitcointalk community. In my opinion, most are same repetitive all the time & helps no single bitcointalk user.
It might be difficult to get a survey done but if possible I am sure the last statement is going to be proven wrong. As far as I know, many bounty hunters check these sections for possible scams in the projects they are promoting and in general many logged-out users on search engines end up on the thread if named properly.

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If I'm correct on the above statement, can someone point out where's the need of creating such threads? If I'm nlt correct, please point out who are getting benefitted from that threads?
Maybe we could do an anonymous survey to get an idea of what users think about that section?

The fact that scam artists use the same methods to scam does not mean that reports made against them are useless. Even a newbie reading them can get an idea of what they might encounter one day based on what others are facing today.

As far as attention from community goes, flags get supported quickly and discussed on the proper process to continue with the scammer account.

Even then if you feel like the number of airdrop scams and all are getting too repetitive, you can choose to visit this section of the forum weekly and not daily.

In the first 2 pages, I got 2 threads on scam accusations of the forum user. How the board is helping us to identify forum scammers? It's not even possible to find out a thread where there's a forum scam accusation existed. I believe this board was mainly created to post the on forum scam accusation though over the years it has turned into crap like this.
Agreed that the marketplace trust system has evolved a lot, but scams have evolved too. Today we dont see PM scammers we see telegram scammers and these too need to be reported some way, otherwise people dont become careful.

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I don't want to mention what are the craps; I believe most of you know which threads I'm talking about.
I seriously have no idea, I check that section every other day and usually find the topics useful for newbies. You might not get a chance to comment on any but they are not useless.

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November 09, 2021, 10:35:04 AM
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If the board doesn't serve its purpose, where's the necessity of having it either?

Board really serves a purpose, your problem is that you think there should only be scams related to forum users. If you think that every other scam report is unnecessary and should be removed from that board, start using the report to moderator button, or contact the admin directly (Cyrus) and ask him to change the rules of that board.

I don't want to mention what are the craps; I believe most of you know which threads I'm talking about.

If you don't want to give specific examples, you haven't helped anyone understand what threads exactly are bothering you. There are a lot of other boards that make far less sense than Scam accusations, but I haven’t yet experienced some board being completely removed because someone thinks we don’t need it.

How much sense does this board have?

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November 10, 2021, 02:32:22 PM
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In the first 2 pages, I got 2 threads on scam accusations of the forum user. How the board is helping us to identify forum scammers?

You have the investigation board for that, but guess what the board itself won't do any investigation on its own.

It's not about ignoring & getting rid of the shits. It's all about the usage of the board as I have clearly stated in the title "Effectively". If the board doesn't serve its purpose, where's the necessity of having it either?

The purpose of that board is for poeple to formulate scam accusations against somebody, when you open a topic about a fake mining gear seller and defying your logic that every bitcointalk user is used to this you have post after post of poeple who got scammed and fortunately enough also poeple who were one step away from getting scammed by that I think you should really change the impression you have both on the average user and both on what effectively means.








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November 10, 2021, 10:55:43 PM
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Unless the scam is being promoted on Bitcointalk, I think it's pointless to warn people here against random site X. People who visit the scam site through external links won't see the warning, and people who see the warning weren't going to visit the site in the first place.

I am of the opinion that if it is scam bursting and crypto related, since it's not causing harm to the community it shouldn't be discouraged.
Scammers have related strategies, once bursted here can be related to others not in the community, then that particular strategy and its likes would be defeated.

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