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October 02, 2018, 12:13:57 PM
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Both the globe and flat earth models of the world have been proven wrong.
It is time to move on and discover the truth of our the place we call home.  

Evidence points to Earth actually is 4D.

Just amazing watching the days pass 12h day and 12night and on and on.....
https://i.imgur.com/I3RS2HV.gif
More to the point it is a 4D horseshoe type torus, like the poles together but not connected. https://i.imgur.com/yr2WmdM.jpg (23 June version, 6 months later the north outside and south inside)

Any 2:1 ratio map is correct like the NATO military grid https://i.imgur.com/trzzErL.jpg (for a square inside a square, crossing parallel lines are needed) or this high res (16200x8100) https://i.imgur.com/yI94ewM.jpg
or this https://i.imgur.com/8OVhO3t.jpg Pink line center of magnet / location of Sun, Yellow Suns path crossing at 8.5° and may reach and equator alignment. (longitudinal just any place) with the center-line of earths magnet and photographic evidence of earths path in a year https://i.imgur.com/bVquoTg.jpg
or https://i.imgur.com/uH46APJ.jpg
or https://i.imgur.com/vjj57uF.jpg

Flora and Fauna north and south is extremely different. 60° north is some of the greenest places on earth and south of 60° not much else than penguins can be found. Even Greenland is home to flowering plants and large and small mammals. Muskox can be found as far north as land extents north.
Earths axis tilt can explain such differences with the suns suppose 150 million km distance to earth. Only earths magnet location can account for this. The Suns permanent location at geographic north 8,5° North (middle of the magnet, 81°NorthMP, 64°SouthMP) The maximum reach of the “spot light” from  Tropic of Cancer to Tropic of Capricorn and center of direct radiant heat at Equator coming from 8.5°N always.

Highest tides in the world happening North and South at about 45°- 60° latitude twice a day ( every 740,5 minutes, one lunar full cycle 24h and 41min)
Moon acts like electric “bridge” and has most effect on that location because of the orbital path around earth.
Stronger with salt water as fresh water because higher electric conductivity with "impure" water (5 Siemens per Meter vs 0.005 – 0.05 S/m for drinking water) https://i.imgur.com/PX1E35N.jpg

Admiral Richard E. Byrd "discovering" Greenland flying form Antarctica.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czW0iRJuH1A "an area as big as US"

Also of interest:
The universe, sky, 45° "top down" view on the air bubble. Inside is home sweet home.
Blue line earths yearly path (and most planets, Pluto on big bulge)
Gold line moon path around earth and Red north star, Polaris.
https://imgur.com/Tuy2zgz

and flat view of sky
https://imgur.com/pODoy54

Nautical miles and km on 4D flat square earth
https://imgur.com/nf4vZ0t

3 hour intervals of a day
https://i.imgur.com/DG9IbYx.jpg

and six months later south inside, sun right "above" tropic of Capricorn and 8.5°N
https://imgur.com/OmEMIbS

One of the Geomagnetic poles (Aurora Australis or Aurora Borealis)
https://i.imgur.com/BHsPqTi.png

Photographic evidence of one full moon cycle
https://imgur.com/N3KXZlx

Compass needle follows magnetic flux line around until (geo)magnetic south and also the generated heat. (like sog,wind..)
Day "inside", Night "outside"

"Gravity" 9.81m/s/s  (35.316km/h 21.944mph) 35.316 * 24 = 847,584km (526.66miles) is just the continues move forward.
309580,056 km  per year (circumference).

Kola Super Deep Bore Hole, Deepest Hole ever drilled by man, interesting geological anomalies were found, Temperatures reached 180 °C (356° F)
https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=4tyUSgpEub8

The World within the universe, same principal, "air-locked" in a smaller version than our world.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wbevq1W9l8


https://imgur.com/GHqIP41

Model A ("blue marple") nice painting,
Model B (oblate spheroid) does have correct distances and proven every second of every day by people traveling but thats it, disproven over 100 times, lining up 3 mountain tops, no calculation for curve ever in the longest bridges or anything, highest tides happening opposite ends at ~50°, airplane not continuous tipping down once gyro is set it stays in position, north south completely different climates at same latitude, any ship "disappearing" will come back with stronger binoculars, .....................
https://i.imgur.com/ERIZdWJ.jpg



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This was the start of the thread but now obsolete.



It will be interesting to explain someone a 100% flat earth Möbius band rotating once a year twisting inside-out in right turn every  24h, inside the ice/water oblate sphere .
4th dimension can not be shown in 3D physical space. Someone has to "see" it. Once seen it cant be unseen, it is very clear.

A Möbius Strip  is a ruled surface with only one side (the ground you stand on).
A Möbius Strip has only one boundary (the poles).
A Möbius strip is not orient-able. (This one will give some of you a hard time to get it)
The Earth is a flat Möbius Strip in a Hypercube.


A Möbius Strip  is a ruled surface with only one side (when embedded in three-dimensional space) and only one boundary.
A Möbius strip is not orientable Move slider back and forth fast and grab box to move about.


You tilt it slightly and  Sun is at tropic of Cancer or Capricorn one osculation (wobble) per year.



The worlds Möbius Strip is a 2:1 length to width ratio and not as long as this example but will to for now for sun completing ist 24h journey.
Quantum Levitation - Type II Superconductor Mobius Track


Observing the big claw is like the 12h day and 12h night endless loop.




One observable fact is Suns path over the course of the year.



The Military Grid Reference System (MGRS) is used by NATO militaries for locating points on the earth and is accurate to at least 1 meter square and one square can be as large as 100000 meter (100km or 38.61 square miles). A square within a square, square....... 1 meter to 100 000 meter You can not do that on sphere or disc, it must be flat and straight..
With some exceptions each grid is 666 meter wide and 888 km height.

http://earth-info.nga.mil/GandG/coordsys/mmr201.pdf


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Kola Super Deep Bore Hole, interesting geological anomalies were found, Temperatures reached 180 °C (356° F)
Deepest Hole ever drilled by man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y--IMQ3QrQ      skip to 11:26 everything else looks like video game battlefield
So 12226 Meter and not a millimeter further, why?  Grin


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Remember the 100% accurate NATO or UTM   grid zone map]https://i.imgur.com/trzzErL.jpg] grid zone map

What we also have is the grid zone maps for the polar zones.
South Polar (A, B is the only important part everything else can be found in the Möbius strip grid zone map)
North Polar (Y, Z is the only important part everything else can be found in the Möbius strip grid zone map)

We also have the constellations band with the stars and zodiac in the course of the year.

Now lets turn it one rotation per year which give the star and zodiac constellation for northern or southern sky.
This one gives the end of September early October view of the sky (you only see which ever part of the strip band you stand on)
[imgwidth=100]https://i.imgur.com/GYhbckm.png[/img]
As it rotates once yearly the Ecliptic plane line is because of the 45° slant.

The whole thing, now obviously you cant see the whole sky at once like here represented, in reality you only see a particular section of your location.

Did i say there are difficulties represent or explain  a 4-dimensional object on a 3-dimensional space on a 2-dimensional screen with my 1-dimensional brain.


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I think it is getting closer and closer. Slowly puzzle pieces fall in place.
Star constellation cylinder on the outside loop the cylinder itself completes one rotation per year
The Sun right at center at  a height of 3183.1km
We fizz on the conveyor belt type roller coaster in 24h around the Mobius strip in an endless loop.
One cycle completed per year in vertical y axis is  responsible for tropic of cancer and tropic of Capricorn travel of sun  and at the same time the Ecliptic plane line of the zodiac.

Edit, update;
Actually the outside night sky is an oblate ice sphere with the glittering stars in it.  Grin Cheesy   Its actually 2 domes combined,  operation fishbowl also rings a bell.
Oh wow wow wow....

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Edit 2:
Just sorted the moon, tomorrows version will have it included.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgzGwKwLmgM

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The world - is created / constructed.

It is a oblate ice sphere, like joining 2 domes, (visualize a fishbowl). Not movable as surrounded by "endless" ice.
Inside of it spins a Flat Möbius strip at 1666 km/h and also turns one revolution per year and is 6° tilted, giving tropic of Cancer - Capricorn Sun position and also the Zodiacs Ecliptic line. The band, two 20k km squares make it 40k km long. NATO by making the   MGRS grid system (accurate to at least 1 sq meter) divided it into 60 section, each 6° gives each a length of 666,∞ km.
Sun is at center not moving, not physical.
The Moon disc rotates at celestial equator "bulge", the same face is always visible and new, full, waxing, waning is created with Möbius strips position.
The stars-, i want commend right now, i have theory.
Tides are at opposite ends because northern and southern part face the same time the moon.
Because it is a closed system no movement is noticeable, like traveling in a vacuum cylinder or siting in a plane.

Some  visualization of it.




Inside the sphere, the moon making his turns and so is the Möbius strip with us on it, like on a infinitive roller coaster ride.




Flight path Santiago to Sydney



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We do need peace, harmony, love, joy, community, respect, healthy environment........

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The difficult part with the one rotation per year and once per 24h turned inside out is the location of north star.
The Möbius strip with the strips center section and real sun observing fact is close to or the same.


https://i.imgur.com/5nntcaC.gif



https://i.imgur.com/SUOL0I8.gif



Zodiac line however looks more like the funky morbius strip. Red is the north star.




Inside purple line sky for north and orange yellow for zodiac.

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The world - is created / constructed.

It is a oblate ice sphere, like joining 2 domes, (visualize a fishbowl). Not movable as surrounded by "endless" ice.
Inside of it spins a Flat Möbius strip at 1666 km/h and also turns one revolution per year and is 6° tilted, giving tropic of Cancer - Capricorn Sun position and also the Zodiacs Ecliptic line. The band, two 20k km squares make it 40k km long. NATO by making the   MGRS grid system (accurate to at least 1 sq meter) divided it into 60 section, each 6° gives each a length of 666,∞ km.
Sun is at center not moving, not physical.
The Moon disc rotates at celestial equator "bulge", the same face is always visible and new, full, waxing, waning is created with Möbius strips position.
The stars-, i want commend right now, i have theory.
Tides are at opposite ends because northern and southern part face the same time the moon.
Because it is a closed system no movement is noticeable, like traveling in a vacuum cylinder or siting in a plane.

Some  visualization of it.




Inside the sphere, the moon making his turns and so is the Möbius strip with us on it, like on a infinitive roller coaster ride.




Flight path Santiago to Sydney



Plain Band



We don't need borders, passports, governments, terrorizing police, individual greed, war, tyranny, taxes..............

We do need peace, harmony, love, joy, community, respect, healthy environment........


Lots to read, understand and assimilate for the meantime. Cool  But this info is definitely quite interesting indeed to read!
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The world - is created / constructed.

It is a oblate ice sphere, like joining 2 domes, (visualize a fishbowl). Not movable as surrounded by "endless" ice.
Inside of it spins a Flat Möbius strip at 1666 km/h and also turns one revolution per year and is 6° tilted, giving tropic of Cancer - Capricorn Sun position and also the Zodiacs Ecliptic line. The band, two 20k km squares make it 40k km long. NATO by making the   MGRS grid system (accurate to at least 1 sq meter) divided it into 60 section, each 6° gives each a length of 666,∞ km.
Sun is at center not moving, not physical.
The Moon disc rotates at celestial equator "bulge", the same face is always visible and new, full, waxing, waning is created with Möbius strips position.
The stars-, i want commend right now, i have theory.
Tides are at opposite ends because northern and southern part face the same time the moon.
Because it is a closed system no movement is noticeable, like traveling in a vacuum cylinder or siting in a plane.

Some  visualization of it.




Inside the sphere, the moon making his turns and so is the Möbius strip with us on it, like on a infinitive roller coaster ride.




Flight path Santiago to Sydney



Plain Band



We don't need borders, passports, governments, terrorizing police, individual greed, war, tyranny, taxes..............

We do need peace, harmony, love, joy, community, respect, healthy environment........


Lots to read, understand and assimilate for the meantime. Cool  But this info is definitely quite interesting indeed to read!

If you're mind is truly open, one shouldn't limit oneself to the thought against the fact that anything can be possible.Cool

Since there isn't a limit nor a monopoly to any idea or opinion by anyone, most certainly there's nothing wrong about proving anything that begs the question, what if? Huh
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The  MGRS/UTM grid system beyond a doubt proves flatness. You simply can not have different sized grid with curves.
The length 40000 meter / by the 360° is 111.111111111 meter per degree.







 



The Moon, a flat disc rotating on the bulge part of the oblate sphere always showing the same face to everyone.
The stars are nothing else as other worlds. Some are further away in the infinitive ice some are bigger and smaller.
Our physical realm we can not depart the poles are the boundary. No way of exiting the flat Möbius strip.





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 Norway certainly has the best name for the station Troll Station.
Both Ross and Ronne Ice shelfs are passable and Olaf Jansen passed one of them on his way from Norway to South America.

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               Olaf Jansen: The first men to circumnavigate north to south departing from Stockholm.
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I  well  remember  that  we  left  Stockholm  in  our  fishing-sloop  on  the  third  day  of  April,  in 1829

As he got rescued.
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I proceeded to tell him how my father and myself had gone in by way of Spitzbergen, and come out by way of the South Pole country

Some of his experiences and things he has seen.

The cradle of mankind.
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Beyond question, this new land "within" is the home, the cradle, of the human race

Has seen the garden of Eden
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The city of "Eden" is located in what seems to be a beautiful valley, yet, in fact, it is on the loftiest mountain plateau of the Inner Continent, several thousand feet higher than any portion of the surrounding country. It is the most beautiful place I have ever beheld in all my travels. In this elevated garden all manner of fruits, vines, shrubs, trees, and flowers grow in riotous profusion.

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I never  felt better in my life than during the two years my father and I sojourned on the inside of the earth.


In 1829 he has seen Electricity and Mobile phone in use
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By some device which I cannot explain, they hold communion with one another between the most distant parts of their country, on air currents.
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1829, and we of the "outside" surface of the earth knew nothing then, so to speak, of electricity

Gold everywhere
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I never saw such a display of gold. It was everywhere

Traveling in sips going faster than trains at the time.
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The  ship's  speed,  at  times, surpassed that of any railroad train on which I have ever ridden, even here in America.
It was wonderful.


Describing Mount Meru.
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In this garden four rivers have their source in a mighty artesian fountain. They divide
and flow in four directions. This place is called by inhabitants the "navel of the earth," or  the  beginning,  "the  cradle  of  the  human  race."  The  names  of  the  rivers  are  the  Euphrates, the Pison, the Gihon, and the Hiddekel.

Talks about hundred of years old people.
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I am prepared to say that it is my firm belief that the magnetic needle is influenced  solely  by  electric  currents  which  completely envelop  the  earth  like  a  garment

Earths crust is about 300 miles
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is  about  three  hundred  miles  in thickness from the "inside" to the "outside" surface.
also again
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Thus, if the earth's crust is three hundred miles in thickness, which  is  the  distance  I  estimate  it  to  be,

Massive trees
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from  eight  hundred  to  one  thousand  feet  in  height,  and from  one  hundred  to  one  hundred  and  twenty  feet  in  diameter

The polar lights, northern lights (aurora borealis) or southern lights (aurora australis)
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The mirage was at first a flattened-out, glowing red streak of fire on the horizon;
later there were two streaks, the one above the other, with a dark space between; and from the main top I could  see  four,  or  even  five,  such  horizontal  lines  directly  over  one  another,  all  of  equal  length,  as  if  one  could only imagine a square, dull-red sun, with horizontal dark streaks across it."


  "A Voyage to the Inner World" by Olaf Jansen



Also Admiral Richard B. Byrd flew in, his  Diary Feb. Mar. 1947 and meeting with the Arianni, the Inner World of the Earth.
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The world is a complex constructed machine
The Sun is the electric current Northern to Southern Aurora Light, it is stationary, plasma fusion igniting the water
The "flat" Möbius strip completes one rotation per year and twist's inside-out with right turn once every 24h
The Moon circles in the oblate sphere
The Stars are other worlds, impossible to reach in the physical realm as Möbius strip has a bounty.
The Dome, Ice or Water (same thing)


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Beautiful to visualize The Sun, plasma fusion water igniting, the Möbius strip screws into it with right hand turn.
A Winter Day of Sun at Palmer Station, Antarctica -- https://youtu.be/fOnWhOiitCU

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The Egyptians knew it long ago.

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Suns Latitude movement from Tropic of Cancer to Tropic of Capricorn is the oscillation from "South Pole" to "North Pole".
December 21 it reached maximum Northern position and turning around. At Tropic of Cancer again at max and back again.

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Last update for a little while as busy with lifes usual commitments, taking a break.




Can you feel the good vibrations
Good Vibrations]https://youtu.be/apBWI6xrbLY]Good Vibrations

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Slowly the mystery of Earths shape is unraveling.
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Earth is 4D flat, square
Any 2:1 ratio square map is correct, like the NATO military grid system or others.
https://imgur.com/6YpfT6M
https://imgur.com/uH46APJ
https://imgur.com/vjj57uF


It certainly is all electrical universe, even tides.
There is still a lot of rough edges around but it is progressing. 4D sure is a head spin.
https://imgur.com/2vcnA5R

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No parallel lines






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your first link to youtube at #1 is a song?? Huh
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