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November 07, 2018, 08:53:28 PM
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My first red trust! I'll treasure it forever!   Cheesy

Your red trust is gone somehow...lucky goose.  Grin

Hmm, you're right... Maybe it was because I hadn't (yet) left milonite negative feedback?

Ah well, it was fun while it lasted!

EDIT - in other news, I see a new pair of bots are spamming the Neluns and SafeInsure threads today but, unfortunately, this pair - and the last pair - haven't plagiarized anything (yet) and my request to the mods to lock the thread/ban the OP remain unhandled... le sigh.

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November 13, 2018, 05:05:55 PM
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And still it continues.
Moderation is pot luck, sometimes they delete reported posts, sometimes the report stays "unhandled".
Way to go.

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November 13, 2018, 05:23:54 PM
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No doubt about there users who seem to be posting the same thing to threads, they must be one. Indeed the evidence is really strong, its definitely a violation to be sanctioned with permaban. If they will just require bounty hunters to post on their thread once a week, I think there won't be the need to hire users to bump their ANN thread to the top.

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November 13, 2018, 05:25:53 PM
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And still it continues.
Moderation is pot luck, sometimes they delete reported posts, sometimes the report stays "unhandled".
Way to go.

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 Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy

It's a mark of just how f'ed up the Neluns thread is that the above exchange seems entirely consistent with the ongoing "conversations" therein.

FWIW, I tried pressing Welch in this thread to consider banning the OP and locking the thread, because until that happens the bots/bumping service/OP have won.

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November 16, 2018, 07:39:35 AM
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The type of over-pumping topics usually contain many pyramid quotes, which are almost non-sense discussion, inside.
Hate to say this, but pyramid quotes hurt my fingers and take lots of my time to scroll computer mouse to scan and find worthy posts to read.
It's hard to assess one post is meaningful, constructive or not; because it is only value for each reader who has specific demand and knowlegedge. One post might be meaningful for someone, but is un-meaningful for others.
Nevertheless, pyramid posts are definitely undeserved my time to read.

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November 16, 2018, 07:43:16 AM
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The type of over-pumping topics usually contain many pyramid quotes, which are almost non-sense discussion, inside.
Hate to say this, but pyramid quotes hurt my fingers and take lots of my time to scroll computer mouse to scan and find worthy posts to read.

You can easily report them as they are listed in the rules. The question is if a thread is full of those fake conversations isn't it better to just lock the entire thread and notify the OP that if this continues he will be banned.


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November 16, 2018, 08:31:24 PM
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The type of over-pumping topics usually contain many pyramid quotes, which are almost non-sense discussion, inside.
Hate to say this, but pyramid quotes hurt my fingers and take lots of my time to scroll computer mouse to scan and find worthy posts to read.

You can easily report them as they are listed in the rules. The question is if a thread is full of those fake conversations isn't it better to just lock the entire thread and notify the OP that if this continues he will be banned.

It would be far, far better to just lock the thread (and ban the OP) but given my experiences reported above I'm not holding out much hope that will happen. I haven't tried reporting bots for pyramid quoting, mainly because I am skeptical they will be marked good but I'm also not really how sure how best to word my comment for such. I might ask Welch in his guide thread about that when I have a few spare minutes.

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November 17, 2018, 03:10:48 PM
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It would be far, far better to just lock the thread (and ban the OP) but given my experiences reported above I'm not holding out much hope that will happen. I haven't tried reporting bots for pyramid quoting, mainly because I am skeptical they will be marked good but I'm also not really how sure how best to word my comment for such. I might ask Welch in his guide thread about that when I have a few spare minutes.
The fact is, forum mods have not had enough time to watch around, and ban or lock all topic which abundant with pyramid quoted posts.
it requires massive amount of time.
Unfortunately, the forum mods are human, like us, so I think that we all should understand their stressful works.
And, dominant proportion of those pyramid threads are come from spammers, account farmers. This is fact, I have no doubt about it.
Those sort of accounts even don't care about what they did, simply leave non-sense comments, fake conversation, pyramid quotes, etc. to get postcount. Nothing more than that.  Undecided

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December 02, 2018, 01:44:10 PM
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It's been a couple weeks and both the Neluns and SafeInsure scam threads are still going strong after learning to not plagiarize/recycle old posts, while the Neogame.io campaign has admitted defeat and cancelled its ICO. So, 1 win; 2 losses.

Since the mods were requiring multiple examples of plagiarism before banning what were obviously stolen accounts co-opted by the thread bumping service I've basically given up. Hunting for plagiarists while I drank my coffee each morning was an entertaining pastime, and deprived of such I found my interest in the forum overall waning.

^^^@tranthidung - I don't bother reporting posts for pyramid quotes for much the reasons you said. Mods were requiring multiple examples of plagiarism before banning accounts and that should be a "one and done" type of violation; who knows how many pyramid quote posts would be required before banning, and even then its likely to be a warning first. Basically, a case of, "ain'tnobodygottimefodat."

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December 02, 2018, 10:35:43 PM
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It's been a couple weeks and both the Neluns and SafeInsure scam threads are still going strong after learning to not plagiarize/recycle old posts, while the Neogame.io campaign has admitted defeat and cancelled its ICO. So, 1 win; 2 losses.

Since the mods were requiring multiple examples of plagiarism before banning what were obviously stolen accounts co-opted by the thread bumping service I've basically given up. Hunting for plagiarists while I drank my coffee each morning was an entertaining pastime, and deprived of such I found my interest in the forum overall waning.

^^^@tranthidung - I don't bother reporting posts for pyramid quotes for much the reasons you said. Mods were requiring multiple examples of plagiarism before banning accounts and that should be a "one and done" type of violation; who knows how many pyramid quote posts would be required before banning, and even then its likely to be a warning first. Basically, a case of, "ain'tnobodygottimefodat."



Maybe pming a Global moderator could be the way to go about it then? No need to lose interest over the forum for this. Though I do agree with you its a pretty bad shit storm right now. I tried to start reporting more but its so tedious and the cooldown that I have is just annoying as I just run into it every few reports.
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Maybe pming a Global moderator could be the way to go about it then? No need to lose interest over the forum for this. Though I do agree with you its a pretty bad shit storm right now. I tried to start reporting more but its so tedious and the cooldown that I have is just annoying as I just run into it every few reports.

Nah, I only PM mods if it is absolutely and truly necessary and, besides, I explained why the OP should be banned and the thread locked when I reported the OPs of these threads.. In fact, I've reported the OPs multiple times with a similar explanation given just in case different mods attended to each report.

What is so frustrating is that it is so blatantly obvious that the conversations occurring in these threads are endlessly recycled and often nonsensical, even if they no longer qualify as plagiarism, per se. The smart thing to do - and one requiring the least amount of time/effort by the mods - would be to lock the thread and ban the OP (or at least just lock the thread). The worst that could happen is the OP creates a new account to complain in meta which would basically result in a lot more people looking at their misdeeds and concluding the banishment/thread-locking was righteous and just.

Meh... not anything I can do about it except not bang my head against this proverbial wall.

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