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Upaycard has never issued payment cards to Minexpay, but to lithuanian company UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS. That company Minexpay illegally used as a cover,shell company for theirs illegal activities. Minexpay used UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS account illegally,without Upaycard knowledge, plus Minexpay were sending cards to countires out of EEA zone ,despite Upaycard license covers only EEA.

Minexpay did massive violations of Upaycard and Mastercard rules and regulations and it was caught in it. UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS account is suspended indefinetely and Minexpay illegal non-branded payment card program is over.




Summary

Every new attempt to deliver what they promised leads to a new shady and scammy company. They are blatant scammers.


All the Info:

The team behind https://minexpay.com/ and Minexcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1847292.0 is promising to release a creditcard.

First they wrote that it will work this way.

https://faq.minexpay.com/article/237-how-does-minexpay-work

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How does MinexPay work?
All MinexPay cards are issued by our own offshore bank with an international license (category B), established and managed by MinexSystems. By ordering a MinexPay card, each client becomes a participant in the trust fund and, at will, transfers their assets to be managed by the fund.

The fund, based on the value of said assets, acts as a guarantor of the corresponding credit limit (opened by the bank for the cardholder).

Fees associated to that guarantee are 0.01% per year.

When a client spends his credit limit, the fund immediately sells the cardholder's crypto-assets at an exchange rate defined on Coinmarketcap.com (at the time of payment).

After the sale, the client’s available balance is updated accordingly.




Then nothing happend and they just promised to reveal the name of the bank "soon".

And then they did not open their own bank. Instead they announced a partnership.

Written in a blog post (https://medium.com/minecoin-blog/%C4%8Dsob-bank-partnership-the-roadmap-and-cards-shipping-update-8cc5a7372822)

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MinexPay Signs a Contract with ČSOB Bank

We are pleased to announce that we’ve made a deal with ČSOB bank for the first MinexPay cards. ČSOB is one of the largest commercial banks operating in the Czech Republic since 1964. This bank has enhanced its considerable experience with openness towards forward-thinking technologies such as blockchain.



But this partnership is not real.






https://twitter.com/CSOB_CZ

google translated

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"We have to rebut the claim of @minexcoin, which has announced that we have recently entered into a contract that allegedly relates to payment cards. We have not made any such business with Minex Pay and do not cooperate with Minex Pay in other areas."


And the answer from the team is just an other excuse

Bank partnership clarification

Currently, we are experiencing a misunderstanding about the partnership between our party and the bank. We assure that we have signed the contract with the help of the bank affiliate company. According to the documents with the bank, the MinexPay trademark is not disclosed. MinexPay is not an entity, but a trademark that cannot sign contracts by default.

We are preparing more clarifications on the issue to inform our communities as soon as possible.


and then this:

MinexPay official statement: ČSOB bank partnership

Dear community, we have faced a misunderstanding regarding our relationship between MinexSystems and ČSOB bank. As you know, we have recently revealed the news that we have successfully signed a contract with the bank for our card project, MinexPay. However, the bank has posted a short statement denying this contract. We want to clarify this situation in this post.

Chain2pay company, registered in Estonia, has obtained licenses for working with cryptocurrencies. There is a valid contract between Chain2Pay and card program manager. At the same time, there is an agreement between the card program manager has a deal with the card issuer. Finally, the card issuer has a signed contract with the bank.

MinexSystems is working directly with the card program manager that is acting as a bridge between our company and the bank.

In this situation, the card program manager has announced the name of the bank. And here’s where the misunderstanding arises, as the bank has no information about the MinexPay trademark.

Currently, we are negotiating with the bank to clarify the situation.


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William (Bill) Shipley - Founder & CEO - Chain2Pay Advisors ...
Chain2Pay develops and delivers strategic and technical solutions that facilitate the electronic exchange of value. We provide on-the-ground, practical experience across the financial services ...
  linkedin.com/in/wtshipley

https://www.e-krediidiinfo.ee/14569426-CHAIN2PAY%20OÜ
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Asutatud:
18.09.2018
Põhikapital:
2 500 EUR
E-post:
bob.minex@gmail.com

Asutatud=founded

https://krediidiraportid.ee/borys-shulyayev
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Borys Shulyayev on seotud järgnevate ettevõtetega: CHAIN2PAY OÜ

Isikuga seotud ettevõtetes maksehäireid ei tuvastatud.
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Borys Shulyayev is involved in the following companies: CHAIN2PAY OÜ

There were no payment delinquencies in the affiliated companies



and we are back at the beginning.

https://medium.com/minecoin-blog/meet-the-minexdreamteam-fe2083340677
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Our founders and evangelists of all things that we do. Still the same:

Boris Shulyaev
Founder and CEO
Roll Eyes Huh Roll Eyes



They tried to find a way out after the bank wrote that there is no relationship.

https://medium.com/minecoin-blog/minexpay-official-statement-%C4%8Dsob-bank-partnership-cfd0845d9468

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...
Finally, the card issuer has a signed contract with the bank.
....
Currently, we are negotiating with the bank to clarify the situation.


The answer of the bank via twitter:

https://twitter.com/CSOB_CZ/status/1049952364222967808

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Znovu musíme reagovat. Se společností MinexPay (@minexcoin) ani se společností Chain2pay (pan Boris Shulyaev) nespolupracujeme. Nikdo nás ani nekontaktoval, aby situaci vysvětlil. Podobná prohlášení potenciálně ohrožují naši značku a jsme připraveni se proti nim bránit.



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Again we have to respond. We do not cooperate with MinexPay (@minexcoin) or Chain2pay (Mr. Boris Shulyaev). Nobody even contacted us to explain the situation. Such statements are potentially threatening our brand and we are ready to oppose them.

And then this. An other attempt


https://twitter.com/NovariseSecrecy/status/1050370446800113665

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Novarise S A Limited is the Program Manager contracted to deliver the prepaid card program on behalf of MinexPay/Chain2Pay.

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Following a review of recent Tweets, we would like to take this opportunity to clarify the status of the MinexPay/Chain2Pay application.

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As an intermediary provider, we work closely with the Card Issuance company who in turn collaborates with the source Bank.

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It is not unusual that the Bank has no knowledge of MinexPay/Chain2pay. The provision of services is between Novarise S A Limited/Chain2Pay/Card Issuer.

OK there are four/five steps.
1. Chain2pay
2. MinexPay
3. Novarise S A Limited
4. unknown Card Issuance company
5. unknow source Bank.

Can you guess what the bank aswered?





Great images mr.pacy.mf thank you for your efforts in exposing these scammers.

As soon as ČSOB confirm the Novarise Secrecy lie please update here.

and the final word came from the ČSOB Bank .... the truth came out!!!




And what yout Novarise Secrecy aka ABS i-account?
Check this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046331.msg46957627#msg46957627


You may ask if there are still minexcoin supporters.
Yes there are.
One of them is TeMHuK (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=840028)
You can see him in this video together with the founder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=500_N9z3SMI&feature=youtu.be

He is writing PMs with threats to users that think and write that all the Minexcoin-stuff is just a scam.





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The scammer fool Temhuk sent me a PM saying he and his scammer friends "will do everything to destroy my reputation"  


I received a message from Temhuk, the first he sent me. I replied asking him to own up to being a scammer.

He sent me another message (second one) but he lied again. I told him he is a liar and that I will try to save people from investing in Minecoin.


Thats why I wanted to know why I dont get threats because i opened this topic.

The answer was:


because I have no idea who you are.

Meanwhile the official account just post this:



MinexPay card allows you to instantly pay with different cryptocurrencies directly at any POS terminal, just like with your ordinary payment card.
We are wondering, how are you going to use it? Share your plans with us!

And to make things even worth abs-iaccount.com down. What will Minex do/say?

account suspended

NOVARISE S.A  / https://abs-iaccount.com/  has mystically gone...




Lets see what happens next.

TeMHuK left me this trust rating:
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Scammer. Be aware of him.

This is a good way to defend Minexcoin.


The next step is:

MinexPay official statement about recent events with card manager company and bank partnership:

Dear community,

As you may now from our past posts and announcements, we have signed a contract with a card manager company as an intermediary for Chain2Pay (MinexSystems' subsidiary) to issue the first MinexPay cards in partnership with the bank.

According to the contract terms working card program (including the cards issued and sent to us) would have been launched not later than on the 24th of October to our costumers' pleasure.

As soon as this date have passed, the terms were not fulfilled and misunderstanding happened between the bank and us. We had to terminate the contract and suspend a relationship with the intermediary as suspicious. We want to abstain from comments regarding the third party's workflow, despite we fully understand it caused unpleasant consequences such as disinformation and certain accusations. Regarding the contract termination we will take down the bank mentions from our social media channels and blog as irrelevant (today EOD), the bank notified.

We hope that all the affected parties, especially the bank and our community, will take this information with understanding.

We want to point once again that in spite of difficulties we continue our work for MinexPay cards and, as MinexSystems CEO previously mentioned in our Telegram chats, successfully found new partners that value transparency and honesty to make it happen in the legal landscape for which we stand.

With regards,
MinexSystems

So they stopped to work with all the partners they had to release the card.

suspicious: Dont blame others please.

And now they want to try it again.....



Cards have been sent.

Has received my tracking today, very pleased.


BUT!



After thorough investigation I have additional informations which will completely debunk this payment cards drama:

- If you carefully look at the card presented on Telegram as Minex card you will see on the bottom of the card a name UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS

But this is not a name of some person ,but name of Lithuanian Human resources company !!








What happened?

Boris made illegal, secret deal with owner of this Lithuanian company.

UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS company(eng translation CRYSTAL BOTTOM,strange name for HR company) will present Boris customers as theirs recruiters-workers.

This Lithuanian company made a contract with UPAY(probably had it already), not Boris company.


Same Lithuanian company probably provided false residence documentation for Minex non-EEA members.

Most certainly UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS company didnt do it for free ,but for some arranged percentage, they will illegally give Boris full control under theirs account on UPAY, which has no clue about this secret deal.

This is so illegal and not only some agreement breach, but criminal behaviour.  Who will get them first UPAY,Mastercard,FCA or Lithuanian authorities ,we will see.

Unfortunately ,this is Minex self-destruction made by completely irresponsible and reckless acts of owner and his mens.


 
https://www.visalietuva.lt/en/company/uab-kristolinis-dugnas - KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS company registration data

http://www.kursurasti.lt/lt/katalogas/veikla-nezinoma/kristolinis-dugnas-uab.html - same as above

http://kristolinisrecruitment.lt/terms.html - UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS  company site















And here more information about UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS .



Who needs cards... just a simple search is enough to see that you're dealing with crooks ant this will not end well.

http://www.registrucentras.lt/jar/p_en/index.php?pav=Kri%C5%A1tolinis&p=1



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Red colour indicates legal entities that have failed to submit annual financial statement documents to the administrator of the Register for more than 12 months

http://www.registrucentras.lt/jar/p_en/dok.php?kod=303915390
(Google-translated)


The most recent entry sounds like they're being evicted or closing up shop. I wonder what happens to those "business" cards when the "business" no longer exists... I guess we'll find out.


The ANN-topic has been locked.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1847292.msg48933752#msg48933752

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Dear users!

We are notifying you that the current Minexcoin topic will be closed.
We have faced a large number of baseless accusations and threats.
BBT moderators are simply absent in the topic since they did not react in any way to this crucial issue and our complaints.
To avoid fast spreading FUD, the official Minexcoin topic has been moved to selfmoderating topic.
Please follow the link and join our official Minexcoin channel

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5090539



How are these cards "working".

I think the minexcoin card activation is subject to minimum amount of minexcoin to be locked to use those tariff offered. But @thurderjet do you have idea how they will set those limit on each card

Minexpay imposed theirs own tariffs and limits. Original Upaycard does not have such division on special tariff plans,it has its own unique fees and limits.

As I know Minexpay imposed artificially division of cards on special tariffs,described before on theirs site - Standard, Gold, Platinum and Infinite.

Due to different limits between Upaycard and Minexpay tariffs, Minex Platinum and Infinite tariffs cant have max.daily withdrawal limits of EUR 5000 and EUR 20000,but max. EUR 4000 daily ,because it is Upaycard limit. Also max. monthy withdrawal for Platinum and Infinite tariff cant be EUR 100.000 and EUR 600.000 ,but max. EUR 50.000

You can see Upaycard business card fees and limits on theirs page and compare it with Minexpay tariffs,keeping in mind that Minexpay(until it last,because it uses illegally other company account on Upaycard) will have to arrange theirs limits to Upaycard own limits :

https://www.upaycard.com/limits


Then why are they asking for selfies and why all that KYC?

What does Borys intend to do with all the ID and bank account numbers and signatures he has accumulated?



Selfie with payment card is only needed on some exchanges as a owner verification measure for enabling deposit/withdrawal by using payment cards.

Why Boris is asking for selfies? - He can sell BTCs on Upaycard UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS account and fund user card,but cant do it with MNX coins.If someone wants to fund card through selling MNX coins,Boris needs to change MNX for EUR first and he can do it only at EXMO exchange.

But there is a problem. His cards are non-branded and he is using other shell company to cover illegal doings.He cant open corporate account on EXMO, change directly users MNX and send EUR to theirs cards.


So, he is using provided documents and selfie with card to open accounts on EXMO for every user without theirs knowledge about it.Selfie with card is needed verification measure on EXMO if user wants to withdraw money on his/her card.

Unauthorizedly using customers data to open individual accounts on EXMO for enabling option to withdraw money directly on cards,Boris will cover his tracks in all this mess and if anything goes wrong all blame will be put on individual users.


List of Boris illegal doings gets bigger and bigger every day.

https://exmo.com/en/news_view?id=2120









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October 08, 2018, 07:12:00 PM
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Quick conclusion. Foolish accusation

You know nothing about the structure and inner workings besides a few names.
I should report you for false claims.

Minexsystems started an offshoot businesses brokered a deal with card manager who has contract with bank.
a company is allowed to branch out into sister companies you know.. Doesn't make it fake

Stop spreading fud when you cleverly have no idea how this business construction works.
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they can prove me wrong. but until then this topic will be updated.

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you are running this pool:
https://minexpool.eu/



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Running a pool for mnx doesn't change anything. Like you think I have something to loose. And must support the team.
Stop thinking like I have other motives. The pool is just a service in support for minexcoin.
It doesn't even earn me anything after servers costs support tools.
You are well aware I have my critical thoughts about mnx in the past. That's not the discussion here

What is the discussion is that you have not even read the news post properly.
They clearly stated that chain2pay has obtained licenses for dealing with cryptocurrencies. If you read it properly you see they don't mean the cards. They created a seperate business entity to deal with the exchange part of their ecosystem. Pretty smart actually to seperate them in order to prevent future problems with conflict of interest etc. So ofcourse this seperate entity will be dealing with the cards.

Nothing stopping minexsystems from working together with this offshoot branch.

Seriously stop being so paranoid when you have no idea how their business is structured and reasons behind it.
your making a fool out yourself.
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Running a pool for mnx doesn't change anything. Like you think I have something to loose. And must support the team.
Stop thinking like I have other motives. The pool is just a service in support for minexcoin.
It doesn't even earn me anything after servers costs support tools.
You are well aware I have my critical thoughts about mnx in the past. That's not the discussion here

What is the discussion is that you have not even read the news post properly.
They clearly stated that chain2pay has obtained licenses for dealing with cryptocurrencies. If you read it properly you see they don't mean the cards. They created a seperate business entity to deal with the exchange part of their ecosystem. Pretty smart actually to seperate them in order to prevent future problems with conflict of interest etc. So ofcourse this seperate entity will be dealing with the cards.

Nothing stopping minexsystems from working together with this offshoot branch.

Seriously stop being so paranoid when you have no idea how their business is structured and reasons behind it.
your making a fool out yourself.


I know that you are a mnx fanboy mujahedin like temhuk...
and that you want to protect your profits  from pool fee/ tens of thousands of coins....
but that you are such a jerk  asshole and fool,I did not know that, people are not not blind anymore

They say I act like I don't give a fuck...I tell them I'm not acting...It's just who I am...
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Good write up. Also can you analyze the latest announcement by the team? I exited after the CSOB tweet saying they were not involved with anything related to minexpay. Chain2Pay seems too fabricated. Those blindly defending minexsystems are very biased and heavily invested. The negatives greatly outweigh the positives.
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Good write up. Also can you analyze the latest announcement by the team? I exited after the CSOB tweet saying they were not involved with anything related to minexpay. Chain2Pay seems too fabricated. Those blindly defending minexsystems are very biased and heavily invested. The negatives greatly outweigh the positives.
Check the documents and agreement with card program here
https://medium.com/minecoin-blog/minexpay-official-statement-čsob-bank-partnership-cfd0845d9468
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Good write up. Also can you analyze the latest announcement by the team? I exited after the CSOB tweet saying they were not involved with anything related to minexpay. Chain2Pay seems too fabricated. Those blindly defending minexsystems are very biased and heavily invested. The negatives greatly outweigh the positives.
Check the documents and agreement with card program here
https://medium.com/minecoin-blog/minexpay-official-statement-čsob-bank-partnership-cfd0845d9468

This is basically just an empty form - absolutely nothing too see there... only Shulyayev's signatures and his shelf company name, that's all...
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the team on medium:

https://medium.com/minecoin-blog/minexpay-official-statement-%C4%8Dsob-bank-partnership-cfd0845d9468

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...
Finally, the card issuer has a signed contract with the bank.
....
Currently, we are negotiating with the bank to clarify the situation.

BTW: why should this contract be written in english....  Roll Eyes

and the bank via twitter

https://twitter.com/CSOB_CZ/status/1049952364222967808

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Znovu musíme reagovat. Se společností MinexPay (@minexcoin) ani se společností Chain2pay (pan Boris Shulyaev) nespolupracujeme. Nikdo nás ani nekontaktoval, aby situaci vysvětlil. Podobná prohlášení potenciálně ohrožují naši značku a jsme připraveni se proti nim bránit.



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Again we have to respond. We do not cooperate with MinexPay (@minexcoin) or Chain2pay (Mr. Boris Shulyaev). Nobody even contacted us to explain the situation. Such statements are potentially threatening our brand and we are ready to oppose them.

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thats all you need to know about their roadmap.


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fairy tale about these projects that will be finished we bought at the beginning of the year....and look at what we got....
you can read their fairy tale here

https://medium.com/minecoin-blog/mnx-upgrade-roadmap-2018-ed9b01c258cf

50 experts senior  developers employed in minexsystem
throughout this year  brought to us the following products  

MinexBank Wear  app for Android Wear device
MinexBank iOS app
Widget for minex bank app
.
.
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atomic swap with no option for real swap for users TEST ONLY
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This can be done by ONE young developer who is a bit better with android applications

now they are trying to hide behind the cards they were totally messed up with

they are so silent for all the other products ... and they do not mention anything else...

They say I act like I don't give a fuck...I tell them I'm not acting...It's just who I am...
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and here is the next chapter:

https://twitter.com/NovariseSecrecy/status/1050370446800113665

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Novarise S A Limited is the Program Manager contracted to deliver the prepaid card program on behalf of MinexPay/Chain2Pay.

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Following a review of recent Tweets, we would like to take this opportunity to clarify the status of the MinexPay/Chain2Pay application.

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As an intermediary provider, we work closely with the Card Issuance company who in turn collaborates with the source Bank.

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It is not unusual that the Bank has no knowledge of MinexPay/Chain2pay. The provision of services is between Novarise S A Limited/Chain2Pay/Card Issuer.

OK there are four/five steps.
1. Chain2pay
2. MinexPay
3. Novarise S A Limited
4. unknown Card Issuance company
5. unknow source Bank.

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On Twitter this "Novarise S.A" has just 6 followers. Look at the logo, look at the media images they uploaded, what a joke. Are we supposed to take this "announcement" seriously??

- There is no "Novarise S.A" website, the Twitter page shows a link to https://abs-iaccount.com

- The abs-iaccount.com domain name was created in 20th March 2018

- "Novarise S.A Limited" was registered in London, UK in October 2017. It has not even filed any accounts yet.

- "Novarise S.A Limited" has a cheap registered office address in London that can be used as a mailing address for less than $80 dollars

- "Novarise S.A Limited" and abs-iaccount.com use a phone number (0044 (0)1254 209361) which is specific to a city called "Blackburn" which is hundreds of miles away from London: https://www.area-codes.org.uk/01254.php

- This "Novarise S.A Limited" outfit is selling offshore bank accounts for £1248.00 UK GBP: https://twitter.com/NovariseSecrecy/media


I would rather not waste more time investigating this nonsense.

Anybody that believes Minexcoin, Minexsystem, Minexpay, Chain2Pay, Novarise S.A Limited and abs-iaccount.com can be believed are mistaken. The project is s cam and to believe it is absolute madness.

Even if by some miracle they save the day and manage to get cards out there, the problem is this project is tainted now because of too many red flags.

It is not worth touching this project, it is a scam.



Here you can find information about Novarise S.A:

https://www.bizstats.co.uk/ltd/novarise-sa-limited-11040742/

The website on the twitter account fromNovarise S.A is: abs-iaccount.com

The e-mail address they use is:
asianbusinesssolutions@protonmail.com

And this matches.

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/hPgwB3pOPYsRhHbulE4txjSpzoE/appointments
NOVARISE SA LIMITED
HODGKINSON, Ivan Alfred

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/11262263
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/11262263/filing-history
ABS FINTECH LIMITED
Previous company names

Previous company names
Name   Period
ASIAN BUSINESS SOLUTIONS LIMITED   19 Mar 2018 - 28 Jun 2018

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October 11, 2018, 02:20:47 PM
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It is funny how the crypto world is full of charlatans:


Debit Cards

Status: launch in the second quarter of 2018

In the middle of 2018 we plan to issue Minexcoin debit (or even credit!) cards which allow you to pay in MNX around the world. In short, the system will transfer your virtual currency into fiat, which means you’ll be able to pay via cryptocurrency everywhere. Even where this kind of payments are not provided.

Our primary goal is to develop such a product that would remain in the legal field of world regulatory laws. At the moment our financial team is drafting the roadmap and the concept of upcoming cards.



they make beautiful pictures, make promises and when is to comply with something that involves real life they can not fulfill. I realized that in this crypto world people only engage in lying and living in the illusion, they have no idea that in real life there are regulations and that these regulations must be respected. When I saw this project, I wondered how the hell they could do it.

MinexPay Crypto Debit Card for Quick, Effortless Everyday Payments - Now Open for Pre-Order

MinexSystems Announces MinexPay Crypto Debit Card on the Blockchain

unfortunately in their thread there are many naive people













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October 11, 2018, 02:46:45 PM
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It is funny how the crypto world is full of charlatans:
it is funny that it’s full of fools on the forum and around the world, who not only do not understand about money, cards, banks, funds, etc., they also troll with a smart face, making their stupid messages in all cracks.

Yes troll as much as necessary. On sick people do not take offense. Time, as they say, will judge who is right. You can further splash saliva, and at the same time you can do it in the project mco, ltc, etc. as your logic is all scam. There are no cards and nothing. And scam zec — it just has everything. No more products. Well, you can list all the main coins - this is a scam.
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October 12, 2018, 01:10:26 AM
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It is funny how the crypto world is full of charlatans:


Debit Cards

Status: launch in the second quarter of 2018

In the middle of 2018 we plan to issue Minexcoin debit (or even credit!) cards which allow you to pay in MNX around the world. In short, the system will transfer your virtual currency into fiat, which means you’ll be able to pay via cryptocurrency everywhere. Even where this kind of payments are not provided.

Our primary goal is to develop such a product that would remain in the legal field of world regulatory laws. At the moment our financial team is drafting the roadmap and the concept of upcoming cards.

they make beautiful pictures, make promises and when is to comply with something that involves real life they can not fulfill. I realized that in this crypto world people only engage in lying and living in the illusion, they have no idea that in real life there are regulations and that these regulations must be respected. When I saw this project, I wondered how the hell they could do it.

MinexPay Crypto Debit Card for Quick, Effortless Everyday Payments - Now Open for Pre-Order

MinexSystems Announces MinexPay Crypto Debit Card on the Blockchain

unfortunately in their thread there are many naive people


Try to explore a little better about this project before investing....
they will not answer me because I have revealed the truth that they are fraudsters....
what did the team finish of the  the products they set for themselves this year?

http://prntscr.com/l4jl7k

fairy tale about these projects that will be finished we bought at the beginning of the year....and look at what we got....
you can read their fairy tale here

https://medium.com/minecoin-blog/mnx-upgrade-roadmap-2018-ed9b01c258cf

50 experts senior  developers employed in minexsystem
throughout this year  brought to us the following products  
MinexBank Wear  app for Android Wear device
MinexBank iOS app
Widget for minex bank app
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atomic swap with no option for real swap for users TEST ONLY


This can be done by ONE young developer who is a bit better with android applications
now they are trying to hide behind the cards they were totally messed up with
they are so silent for all the other products ... and they do not mention anything else...
50 developers have brought these things for 10+ months ...

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Last edit: October 16, 2018, 11:13:44 AM by vlom
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Great images mr.pacy.mf thank you for your efforts in exposing these scammers.

As soon as ČSOB confirm the Novarise Secrecy lie please update here.

and the final word came from the ČSOB Bank .... the truth came out!!!



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Here is a report made by a community member about Novarise Secrecy aka ABS i-account. It clearly shows that it is a fraudulent company only made to scam money out of people.

Looks like MNXSystems made a contract with a scammer and probably got scammed. Seems that this is the reason why cards didnt ship in September.

Report: https://www.upload.ee/files/9074242/Novarise_SA__ABS_Fintech_Limited_exposed.pdf.html


can you post text about that please ?

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these are pictures from the pdf-file linked in this post:

Here is a report made by a community member about Novarise Secrecy aka ABS i-account. It clearly shows that it is a fraudulent company only made to scam money out of people.

Looks like MNXSystems made a contract with a scammer and probably got scammed. Seems that this is the reason why cards didnt ship in September.

Report: https://www.upload.ee/files/9074242/Novarise_SA__ABS_Fintech_Limited_exposed.pdf.html






































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October 16, 2018, 09:40:29 PM
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these are pictures from the pdf-file linked in this post:
After the release of the cards, I will create a theme where I will troll like "clowns" like you. With krinshotami and so on ...
I do not know how much you have been paid, but I personally will do it for free .. For fun ..  ))))))))))

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