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March 07, 2014, 02:45:42 AM
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Doesn't that look mighty suspicious?  They are in cahoots, or the man is trolling us...

http://sks.pkqs.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&fingerprint=on&search=0x18C09E865EC948A1

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Type bits/keyID     cr. time   exp time   key expir
pub  1024D/5EC948A1 2008-10-30           
    Fingerprint=DE4E FCA3 E1AB 9E41 CE96  CECB 18C0 9E86 5EC9 48A1

uid Satoshi Nakamoto <satoshin@gmx.com>
sig  sig3  5EC948A1 2008-10-30 __________ __________ [selfsig]
sig  sig   E2513C30 2009-01-03 __________ __________ Bitcoin Jesus
sig  sig   04143362 2011-11-01 __________ __________ lzsaver <lzsaver@gmail.com>
sig  sig   DAB591E7 2013-03-27 __________ __________ theymos <theymos+pgp@mm.st>
sig  sig   7480B161 2013-04-01 __________ __________ Dorian S Nakamoto <mtn_sssh@hotmail.com>
sig  sig   F2E50027 2013-04-19 __________ __________ Antony Bailey <support@antonybailey.net>
sig  sig   2346C9A6 2013-05-10 __________ __________ Wladimir J. van der Laan <laanwj@gmail.com>
sig  sig   FFDB1CCC 2013-07-01 __________ __________ []
sig  sig   F91975FE 2013-09-20 __________ __________ Cubaguy <cubaguy@gmail.com>
sig  sig   7471C2D0 2013-09-21 __________ __________ Harald Schilly <harald.schilly@gmail.com>
sig  sig1  67E4FA04 2013-10-12 __________ __________ Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>
sig  sig   7B536415 2014-03-06 __________ __________ Satoshi Nakamoto (Resident of California) <satoshin@gmx.com>

sub  2048g/D6AAA69F 2008-10-30           
sig sbind  5EC948A1 2008-10-30 __________ __________ []

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March 07, 2014, 02:46:57 AM
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I don't understand. Can someone chime in and prove the details.
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March 07, 2014, 02:47:54 AM
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Basically Dorian confirmed Satoshi's PHP key last year on april fools day.

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March 07, 2014, 02:48:09 AM
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This is fake, duh.
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March 07, 2014, 02:49:02 AM
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Dafuq? He wasn't in it earlier:

Who are these guys in the list?
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Search results for '0x18c09e865ec948a1'

Type bits/keyID     cr. time   exp time   key expir

pub  1024D/5EC948A1 2008-10-30           
    Fingerprint=DE4E FCA3 E1AB 9E41 CE96  CECB 18C0 9E86 5EC9 48A1

uid Satoshi Nakamoto <satoshin@gmx.com>
sig  sig3  5EC948A1 2008-10-30 __________ __________ [selfsig]
sig  sig   04143362 2011-11-01 __________ __________ lzsaver <lzsaver@gmail.com>
sig  sig   DAB591E7 2013-03-27 __________ __________ theymos <theymos+pgp@mm.st>
sig  sig   F2E50027 2013-04-19 __________ __________ Antony Bailey <support@antonybailey.net>
sig  sig   2346C9A6 2013-05-10 __________ __________ Wladimir J. van der Laan <laanwj@gmail.com>
sig  sig   FFDB1CCC 2013-07-01 __________ __________ []
sig  sig   F91975FE 2013-09-20 __________ __________ Cubaguy <cubaguy@gmail.com>
sig  sig   7471C2D0 2013-09-21 __________ __________ Harald Schilly <harald.schilly@gmail.com>
sig  sig1  67E4FA04 2013-10-12 __________ __________ Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>
sig  sig   7B536415 2014-03-06 __________ __________ Satoshi Nakamoto (Resident of California) <satoshin@gmx.com>

sub  2048g/D6AAA69F 2008-10-30           
sig sbind  5EC948A1 2008-10-30 __________ __________ []

http://sks.pkqs.net/pks/lookup?op=vindex&fingerprint=on&search=0x18C09E865EC948A1

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March 07, 2014, 02:49:33 AM
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This is fake, duh.

Then how did they back-date it on the SKS keyserver?

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March 07, 2014, 02:53:34 AM
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Basically Dorian confirmed Satoshi's PHP key last year on april fools day.

This is fake, duh.

Then how did they back-date it on the SKS keyserver?

That's what I'm wondering (admittedly my pgp experience here is lacking) - how difficult is to forge the date stamp on these signatures?

Of course anyone could have made a key under that name right? It's not necessarily Dorian. But I'd be interested to know more about the authenticity of the time stamp of this event... anyone?
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March 07, 2014, 02:54:49 AM
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This is fake, duh.

Then how did they back-date it on the SKS keyserver?

I have no idea but I know it wasn't there an hour ago... Very strange.

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March 07, 2014, 02:55:16 AM
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It's fake.  Someone even "signed" the key before it was made. -_-
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March 07, 2014, 02:56:41 AM
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no he didn't... check google cache

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March 07, 2014, 03:01:33 AM
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It's fake.  Someone even "signed" the key before it was made. -_-

no he didn't... check google cache


Right, so it was inserted sometime in the last 3 months... not April 2013.

So the server just accepts a signature which already includes the date time of the signer, or what the signer says is the date and time. e.g. the signature could have been done offline ages ago... or they have just manually set the clock.

Learn something every day. Smiley
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March 07, 2014, 03:15:48 AM
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It's fake.  Someone even "signed" the key before it was made. -_-

no he didn't... check google cache


Right, so it was inserted sometime in the last 3 months... not April 2013.

So the server just accepts a signature which already includes the date time of the signer, or what the signer says is the date and time. e.g. the signature could have been done offline ages ago... or they have just manually set the clock.

Learn something every day. Smiley

Personally I think Dorian=Satoshi and he is just having a little fun before the FULL story comes out on AP newswire tomorrow.   Grin

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As there's no such thing as an absolute or 'verified time', a time-stamp can be set as anything by the signer, just like Alice can pre-or-post-date a handwritten letter to Bob to appear to have been authored at any time she likes.   

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As there's no such thing as an absolute or 'verified time', a time-stamp can be set as anything by the signer, just like Alice can pre-or-post-date a handwritten letter to Bob to appear to have been authored at any time she likes.   
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March 07, 2014, 05:56:24 AM
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i think satoshi paid dorian to be satoshi. now the poor old guy is fucked.

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Someone would have noticed this by now.
Someone is trying to fool us.

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March 07, 2014, 06:19:28 AM
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You can do this too, just set your computer's clock to whatever date you like.

Try and test it Smiley
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its fake! Dorian was not in the list a few hours ago!
Who are these guys in the list?
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Type bits/keyID     cr. time   exp time   key expir

pub  1024D/5EC948A1 2008-10-30            
    Fingerprint=DE4E FCA3 E1AB 9E41 CE96  CECB 18C0 9E86 5EC9 48A1

uid Satoshi Nakamoto <satoshin@gmx.com>
sig  sig3  5EC948A1 2008-10-30 __________ __________ [selfsig]
sig  sig   04143362 2011-11-01 __________ __________ lzsaver <lzsaver@gmail.com>
sig  sig   DAB591E7 2013-03-27 __________ __________ theymos <theymos+pgp@mm.st>
sig  sig   F2E50027 2013-04-19 __________ __________ Antony Bailey <support@antonybailey.net>
sig  sig   2346C9A6 2013-05-10 __________ __________ Wladimir J. van der Laan <laanwj@gmail.com>
sig  sig   FFDB1CCC 2013-07-01 __________ __________ []
sig  sig   F91975FE 2013-09-20 __________ __________ Cubaguy <cubaguy@gmail.com>
sig  sig   7471C2D0 2013-09-21 __________ __________ Harald Schilly <harald.schilly@gmail.com>
sig  sig1  67E4FA04 2013-10-12 __________ __________ Peter Todd <pete@petertodd.org>
sig  sig   7B536415 2014-03-06 __________ __________ Satoshi Nakamoto (Resident of California) <satoshin@gmx.com>

sub  2048g/D6AAA69F 2008-10-30            
sig sbind  5EC948A1 2008-10-30 __________ __________ []

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its fake! Dorian was not in the list a few hours ago!
Just like I said. Somebody would have noticed it in the past 11 months.

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