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November 17, 2019, 06:26:48 PM
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Anyone who tried to sue me, slate me in public or tried to make it impossible for other investors to recover will be way at the back of the line or not have tokens bought at all.
Cute. Is this blackmail or extortion? It can be added to your list of crimes!
You made it very clear you weren't going to honour your buy back promises long before I tagged you, and except for some Newbies I haven't seen anyone who got anything back from you.

JollyGood makes a good point about the lack of crime report when you claim "hackers" stole a small fortune. Luckily, your days here are over.

I made this for Dean: Trust score loading...

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November 17, 2019, 06:55:37 PM
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There is zero chance of me going to jail over this which would be the only outcome that you or investors could hope for but that still doesn't get anyone any money.

My lawyers already confirmed over a year ago that stopping the buy back program was OK and I had no legal obligation to buy tokens and that I should close the site then. I kept it open another year to try and turn things round for investors though but it was a lost cause because of people like you.


Serial scammer Dean Nolan is going to jail as soon as one investor accepts they will never get back their investment.

Would it not be ironic if it were BillyBurns who in attempt to get back his $30,000 investment was the one that triggered the criminal investigation in to serial scammer Dean Nolan. One time biggest, staunchest defender of serial scammer Dean Nolan and betking being the one that played the biggest part in getting him imprisoned. After all, when he discovers and accepts he was told lies he will try to get his money back.

I have my case file ready, just need one investor to give the go-ahead and it will end up with the Police citing the investor as a victim of the scam. At that point the imaginary army of legal advisers and solicitors that serial scammer Dean Nolan claims he has will not be able to help him.

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November 18, 2019, 06:48:41 AM
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The site is closed, I'm not looking for players.
Yeah you are not looking for players but trying to hold them for investing on your upcoming one. (Email fact) that


Prove it. I have not asked anyone involved in BetKing to invest in my new project. Talking shit again.
You are starting a new project a day after you closed your last one because it got hacked?

I prefer to give maximum benefit of the doubt, but I cannot see any circumstances in which it would be a good idea to invest in this.

I never asked anyone to invest in it.
I'm not here looking for investors.
There is no one on this forum or anyone in the betking email list of players or investors who I will even give the name or url to.

If you asked my opinion, it sounds like you are trying to delay getting sued until after the statute of limitations on your debts expires.

I have no idea if what your various investors claim they are owed by you are debts that a court will enforce, but my belief is they would if a lawsuit is filed within the statute of limitations. Your apparent intimidation elsewhere in this thread, and other history makes me believe that it would probably be best for any potential creditors to file a lawsuit sooner rather than later regarding any debts you may have defaulted on.

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Many businesses fail every day. Don't invest what you can't afford to lose.
This does not absolve you of responsibility if you have personally promised to repay debts incurred operating a business.
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November 18, 2019, 08:23:34 AM
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If you asked my opinion, it sounds like you are trying to delay getting sued until after the statute of limitations on your debts expires.

I have no idea if what your various investors claim they are owed by you are debts that a court will enforce, but my belief is they would if a lawsuit is filed within the statute of limitations. Your apparent intimidation elsewhere in this thread, and other history makes me believe that it would probably be best for any potential creditors to file a lawsuit sooner rather than later regarding any debts you may have defaulted on.

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This does not absolve you of responsibility if you have personally promised to repay debts incurred operating a business.




Excellent post PrimeNumber7. I think when it comes to serial scammer Dean Nolan the pattern emerged over time is that he is a compulsive liar. He posts lies upon lies and hopes to distract people from the actual situation.

The ridiculous "Many businesses fail every day. Don't invest what you can't afford to lose" line is not going to save him in any criminal or civil lawsuit. All it shows is the low-life serial scammer Dean Nolan cementing his position as the pathetic imbecile we all know him to be. Not all businesses have 50% of their ICO funds (over $3 million) stolen by the person trusted to operated the business therefore probably all businesses having that much stolen from them will fail.

Regarding him hoping to delay any action against until a statutory time limit has expired, that will not apply to this situation because he is a UK citizen holding a British passport and there is no such statutory time related issues in UK law. The Proceed of Crime Act 2002 is the section of UK law (especially the money laundering part) which will most probably be used against him and a successful prosecution always leads to jail time.

In his recent post he boasts about his legal team telling he is not liable for anything and he will not go to jail. The only reason he would post that is because he fears a criminal or civil legal case so is trying to put doubt in the minds of potential instigators that any legal case will fail - but the reality is a legal case will see him at the very least interviewed by the Police as part of a criminal investigation and at the most him being found guilty and jailed for theft of over $3 million that belonged to investors.

The lowest of the low was the final 50+ BTC he stole and blamed it on an imaginary hack but never even reported the theft of $400,000+ to the Police. Pathetic. Now he tells victims he needs time to repay them just for classic misdirection in order to put doubt in minds about holding off reporting him to the Police   Roll Eyes

On of the other issues about victims wanting to report the matter to the Police is that some might be thinking that they will have to explain to the Police where they got the funds to invest and it might mean tax implications. First of all, they do not have to worry about reporting the matter to the Police. The Police will are not interested in the tax aspect of where the funds came from, they are interested in arresting and prosecuting criminals.

My case file is complete with evidence of the lies serial scammer Dean Nolan told on a regular basis. All I need is just one investor to say they are willing to report him to the Police then I will hand over everything to the UK Police myself while the victim can wait for the outcome of the criminal investigation to find out whether serial scammer Dean Nolan will get jail time and what assets were seized - and how much of their stolen funds they can expect to get back.



Here is another excellent post from marlboroza on betking and how serial scammer Dean Nolan stole $2.785 million from the 30 million BKB he stole by saying it was going to be used to on the website but he accidentally posted he was going to steal it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4751127.msg44790903#msg44790903

He archived it and the content is one of several key reasons why a criminal prosecution is likely to go ahead: http://archive.is/9opwz#selection-6385.4-6385.34

This is all you need to read:

http://archive.is/9opwz#selection-6385.4-6385.34

I'm buying tokens back with my own profit, the 30 million tokens I keep from the ICO.
There's not going to be any significant reduction in bankroll, max 10% every 3 months.
Yes I will then be making a profit on the tokens I hold, the ones not being sold plus the ones I buy back, that's pretty normal and how most businesses work.
There's no dilution going on at all.

According to ICO conditions (someone archived ICO long time ago, couldn't archive new site) http://archive.is/tdcWr#selection-440.5-440.6

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– 100,000,000 BetKing Bankroll Tokens will be created as Ethereum ERC23 tokens and issued after the crowdsale ends.
– 70 million will be available for sale to crowdsale participants.
– 30 million will be retained by BetKing for ICO bounties, testing bounties, advisors, hiring, future marketing and development.
– BetKing Bankroll Tokens can be purchased with Bitcoin, Ethereum and Litecoin. All funds will be held in cold storage.
Use of funds raised
After the crowdsale at least 50% of the funds raised will be used for the house bankroll that players bet against and winnings are paid from.The remaining funds will be used for marketing, promos, seo, design, development, server costs and legal.

Is Dean allowed to use his 30% of issued tokens to buy back tokens, to put them on exchange, sell them or to put them in bankroll, as during ICO something completely different was stated?

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There has been much interesting reading on this thread. I am a betking coin holder prepared to take legal action. I want to connect with those who can help me provide information to the police and/or a lawyer. I have my own experiences but there are probably a thousand posts about Dean's criminal activities that need distilling (some of which has been done on this thread), and I'm sure others have other information offline (Jollygood has mentioned a case file).

You'll find that nearly all investors have been reluctant to come forward, partly from a false hope of being repaid someday but also the systematic way that Dean intimidates and silences anyone who has spoken up. I've added Dean's accounts to my PM ignore list... if you must bully me, do it in the forum so everybody can see how you treat those who put faith in you. Otherwise, post the police case number for your alleged hack - your unwillingness to do so although it's so easy to file a report is the most unambiguous signal of the truth.
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There has been much interesting reading on this thread. I am a betking coin posts about Dean's criminal activities that need distilling (some of which has been done on this thread), and I'm sure others have other prepared to take legal action. I want to connect with those who can help me provide information to the police and/or a lawyer.
Finally someone as the investor have spoken up! Dean always keep bragging how the “investors are always happy and he doesn’t owe an explaination to anyone else but them”.

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Could you elaborate a little more on that? I wonder what sort of power he uses to silence the people? Definitely sounds like a criminal to me.
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November 30, 2019, 08:24:32 AM
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Is anyone here selling the debts owed to them by this punk?

I am thinking of making an offer for outstanding debts, no PM’s all details in this thread.


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November 30, 2019, 10:02:18 AM
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Is anyone here selling the debts owed to them by this punk?

I am thinking of making an offer for outstanding debts, no PM’s all details in this thread.
You can have mine for 1 satoshi. I got about $50 out of the $700 I should have gotten if Dean would have sticked to his word, so that leaves around $650.
I have no doubt I'll never get it, so I stopped caring. I now just enjoy seeing this on Dean's profiles:
Trust score loading...

Could you elaborate a little more on that? I wonder what sort of power he uses to silence the people? Definitely sounds like a criminal to me.
Dean basically said that people who complain will be last in line (or get nothing). It's an empty threat though, the ones who stay silent won't get anything either.

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for 1 satoshi.

Sold I owe you 1 Satoshi.

@dean.

you now owe  me $650.00

i will now PM you the name of someone who has your full dox, I will be meeting with this person on the 13th December, unless you pay me in full I will be passing your full dox to the investigators in this thread.

xxxxx

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for 1 satoshi.
Sold I owe you 1 Satoshi.
You can send it to https://tippin.me/@LoyceVVal through Lightning Network Smiley No rush.

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for 1 satoshi.

Sold I owe you 1 Satoshi.

@dean.

you now owe  me $650.00

i will now PM you the name of someone who has your full dox, I will be meeting with this person on the 13th December, unless you pay me in full I will be passing your full dox to the investigators in this thread.

xxxxx

How about you go fuck yourself?

Your pm is hilarious.
1) A casino manager is not going to just give out private data like that, there's a bigger legal case that I would win if she did.
2) Hate to break it to you but that casino does not have any useful information on me anyway. You won't find an address for me on their system (or anywhere) Wink




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I'm not worried. I'm having fun with my morning coffee and email checking. You people make me laugh. Keep trolling and threatening,
But please please make sure you get my dox off that casino because I'll be able to sue them and refund people with the money from that.

I have not made any threats, I did not state where I was getting your dox from, I just stated a name of someone that we both are acquainted with.. 6 degrees of separation and all that Jazz.

BTW - earlier you stated

Hate to break it to you but that casino does not have any useful information on me anyway. You won't find an address for me on their system (or anywhere) Wink

So you have confirmed yourself with double standards yet again as a liar.

maybe drink some more coffee?

People who act emotionally make mistakes.

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November 30, 2019, 11:38:22 AM
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I'm not worried. I'm having fun with my morning coffee and email checking. You people make me laugh. Keep trolling and threatening,
But please please make sure you get my dox off that casino because I'll be able to sue them and refund people with the money from that.

I have not made any threats, I did not state where I was getting your dox from, I just stated a name of someone that we both are acquainted with.. 6 degrees of separation and all that Jazz.

BTW - earlier you stated

Hate to break it to you but that casino does not have any useful information on me anyway. You won't find an address for me on their system (or anywhere) Wink

So you have confirmed yourself with double standards yet again as a liar.

maybe drink some more coffee?

People who act emotionally make mistakes.

You are trying to extort me. Your 6 degrees also don't work in this case either. I know that for a fact.
I don't even owe money to Loyce (he also doesn't even have any tokens) so you just wasted 1 satoshi. I heard that could be worth $1 million some day.

Where's my lie?
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November 30, 2019, 11:42:23 AM
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You are trying to extort me. Your 6 degrees also don't work in this case either. I know that for a fact.
I don't even owe money to Loyce (he also doesn't even have any tokens) so you just wasted 1 satoshi. I heard that could be worth $1 million some day.

Where's my lie?

I purchased a debt, there is no extortion.
6 degrees of separation does work

your lie - your contradiction -

You won't find an address for me on their system (or anywhere) Wink
??
But please please make sure you get my dox off that casino because I'll be able to sue them and refund people with the money from that.

Please catch up here Dean. As a gesture of goodwill I will sell the debt back to Loyce for the 1sat purchase price if the debt is made good with him in full.

how does that sound?

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November 30, 2019, 11:48:00 AM
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You are trying to extort me. Your 6 degrees also don't work in this case either. I know that for a fact.
I don't even owe money to Loyce (he also doesn't even have any tokens) so you just wasted 1 satoshi. I heard that could be worth $1 million some day.

Where's my lie?

I purchased a debt, there is no extortion.
6 degrees of separation does work

your lie - your contradiction -

You won't find an address for me on their system (or anywhere) Wink
??
But please please make sure you get my dox off that casino because I'll be able to sue them and refund people with the money from that.

Please catch up here Dean. As a gesture of goodwill I will sell the debt back to Loyce for the 1sat purchase price if the debt is made good with him in full.

how does that sound?

That's not a contradiction. Maybe I could have said it better. You won't get my address off them, or anyone. That is 100% fact.
But you might get an address and name off them which would be breaking the law, if it was the casino or staff members giving it.

Anyway. Done now. Got actual work to do.
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November 30, 2019, 05:14:22 PM
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2nd lead on your dox...

3rd lead commencing next weekend, I’m playing poker with some people who have played with you.

Silly silly dean

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November 30, 2019, 05:16:27 PM
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2nd lead on your dox...

3rd lead commencing next weekend, I’m playing poker with some people who have played with you.

Silly silly dean

oh no

every poker player knows me, everyone knows that. it's hardly a lead
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November 30, 2019, 05:44:08 PM
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2nd lead on your dox...

3rd lead commencing next weekend, I’m playing poker with some people who have played with you.

Silly silly dean

oh no

every poker player knows me, everyone knows that. it's hardly a lead

No son, no one knows you other than a few sweatties, you ain’t fucking famous you mug. It’s closing in dean, all over the $650 of debt I bought.

Imagine what would of happened if you actually scammed me??

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November 30, 2019, 07:30:36 PM
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If you asked my opinion, it sounds like you are trying to delay getting sued until after the statute of limitations on your debts expires.

I have no idea if what your various investors claim they are owed by you are debts that a court will enforce, but my belief is they would if a lawsuit is filed within the statute of limitations. Your apparent intimidation elsewhere in this thread, and other history makes me believe that it would probably be best for any potential creditors to file a lawsuit sooner rather than later regarding any debts you may have defaulted on.

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Many businesses fail every day. Don't invest what you can't afford to lose.
This does not absolve you of responsibility if you have personally promised to repay debts incurred operating a business.

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The ridiculous "Many businesses fail every day. Don't invest what you can't afford to lose" line is not going to save him in any criminal or civil lawsuit. <>
Businesses do fail every day, and creditors often do not go after debts from failed businesses if there is no money to collect because it often is expensive to initiate a lawsuit to even attempt to collect.

If Dean were to make creditors believe there is no money to collect now, but there may be future income that will repay debts in the near future, creditors may not want to sue in court to try to collect. If there is money to be collected, it would be in creditors to file a lawsuit sooner rather than later to protect against the money being spent.

Regarding him hoping to delay any action against until a statutory time limit has expired, that will not apply to this situation because he is a UK citizen holding a British passport and there is no such statutory time related issues in UK law. The Proceed of Crime Act 2002 is the section of UK law (especially the money laundering part) which will most probably be used against him and a successful prosecution always leads to jail time.<>
I am not familiar with this law. If this is a law that may result in Dean being criminally charged, this will probably not help any of his creditors if he is charged many years from today.Criminal courts often also have a longer "reach" than civil courts, as a criminal court in a location may have jurisdiction over a case that a civil court does not.

If one of Dean's creditors were to sue him to enforce the debt, they need to sue in a specific jurisdiction that depends on potentially a number of factors. If the terms of the debt do not specify what jurisdiction's court can hear any disputes related to the debt, a court with jurisdiction over the location of which the debt was incurred can likely hear a case. However the "location" of where a debt was incurred is frequently a more difficult question than it sounds. Different jurisdictions have different statutes of limitations as to when creditors can be sued, and if you sue in the incorrect jurisdiction, the statute of limitations may have expired by the time you find out that court cannot hear your case.

My suggestion is for anyone owed a substantial amount of money to hire a lawyer ASAP to get advice regarding possibly suing to collect on what you are owed.
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November 30, 2019, 07:35:50 PM
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If you asked my opinion, it sounds like you are trying to delay getting sued until after the statute of limitations on your debts expires.

I have no idea if what your various investors claim they are owed by you are debts that a court will enforce, but my belief is they would if a lawsuit is filed within the statute of limitations. Your apparent intimidation elsewhere in this thread, and other history makes me believe that it would probably be best for any potential creditors to file a lawsuit sooner rather than later regarding any debts you may have defaulted on.

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Many businesses fail every day. Don't invest what you can't afford to lose.
This does not absolve you of responsibility if you have personally promised to repay debts incurred operating a business.

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The ridiculous "Many businesses fail every day. Don't invest what you can't afford to lose" line is not going to save him in any criminal or civil lawsuit. <>
Businesses do fail every day, and creditors often do not go after debts from failed businesses if there is no money to collect because it often is expensive to initiate a lawsuit to even attempt to collect.

If Dean were to make creditors believe there is no money to collect now, but there may be future income that will repay debts in the near future, creditors may not want to sue in court to try to collect. If there is money to be collected, it would be in creditors to file a lawsuit sooner rather than later to protect against the money being spent.

Regarding him hoping to delay any action against until a statutory time limit has expired, that will not apply to this situation because he is a UK citizen holding a British passport and there is no such statutory time related issues in UK law. The Proceed of Crime Act 2002 is the section of UK law (especially the money laundering part) which will most probably be used against him and a successful prosecution always leads to jail time.<>
I am not familiar with this law. If this is a law that may result in Dean being criminally charged, this will probably not help any of his creditors if he is charged many years from today.Criminal courts often also have a longer "reach" than civil courts, as a criminal court in a location may have jurisdiction over a case that a civil court does not.

If one of Dean's creditors were to sue him to enforce the debt, they need to sue in a specific jurisdiction that depends on potentially a number of factors. If the terms of the debt do not specify what jurisdiction's court can hear any disputes related to the debt, a court with jurisdiction over the location of which the debt was incurred can likely hear a case. However the "location" of where a debt was incurred is frequently a more difficult question than it sounds. Different jurisdictions have different statutes of limitations as to when creditors can be sued, and if you sue in the incorrect jurisdiction, the statute of limitations may have expired by the time you find out that court cannot hear your case.

My suggestion is for anyone owed a substantial amount of money to hire a lawyer ASAP to get advice regarding possibly suing to collect on what you are owed.

I can save you time. There is no debt to be repaid. There's also a group who already tried to sue, a year ago, who gave up because their lawyers said there was no case, the same as my lawyers said a year ago too.

Everyone in any of these BK scam threads are totally clueless. I guess it's just a case of trying to make drama out of nothing and trolling out of boredom.





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